Software companies can now track you through your TPM’s burned-in RSA

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    • #139524
      Anonymous
      Guest

      So let me get this straight. Software companies can now track you through your TPM’s burned-in RSA key (that you can’t change btw) and also permanently ban your whole PC in case you break their TOS or something?

    • #139525
      Anonymous
      Guest

      CS:Go Wins again

      • #139619
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Just make a gaming vm that emulates a TPM and hides the fact that it’s a VM.

        CS:Go is better than any other game for small team adversarial. All the other stuff is total crap.

        • #139737
          Anonymous
          Guest

          If they coded the checks properly, you can’t emulate a tpm.

          • #139739
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Not true at all. Their code can only see what the tpm spits out because their code is running in the kernel and not the tpm.

            • #139744
              Anonymous
              Guest

              What I meant is an emulator won’t be able to pass attestation because it won’t have a genuine key

      • #139644
        Anonymous
        Guest

        this
        >runs natively on windows, osx, and linux
        >non intrusive anti cheat
        >mapping software freely available to the users
        >access to non valve servers & gamemodes
        valorant is such a shit attempt at a cs competitor

        • #139773
          Anonymous
          Guest

          valve is the white man’s company

        • #139782
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >non intrusive anti cheat
          Also checks your browser history to make sure you’re a good goy

      • #139771
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Its also the easiest game to cheat in without the slightest possibility of being banned that I have played.

        • #139832
          Anonymous
          Guest

          i’ve literally never encountered a cheater because I have premier

    • #139526
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Something like that, yes. It’s sinister as fuck but muh gaymers and enterprise cucks won’t even bat an eye

      • #139599
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >It’s sinister for companies to enforce their terms of service that their users agreed to upon signing up for said platform in order to prevent abuse.
        You have to be 18+ to input LULZ.org into your web browser

        • #139600
          Anonymous
          Guest

          it is when the terms of service are sinister and rely on people’s ignorance of what’s actually happening

          • #139608
            Anonymous
            Guest

            I swear, it boggles the mind why people would defend shady corporate tactics on their own volition.

            • #139617
              Anonymous
              Guest

              You can be reasonably sure they are from the land of free (free as in corporations are free to fuck over the consumer, no free as in freedom).

          • #139703
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You can be reasonably sure they are from the land of free (free as in corporations are free to fuck over the consumer, no free as in freedom).

            No one is forcing you or anyone else to sign up for this platform or play video games you dumb scrotes. How is this infringing upon anything?

            • #139705
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Way to not see the bigger picture, scrote. Computers are gradually becoming more and more locked down, and you gaymer scrotes cheer it on because you enjoy letting chinks fuck your wife.

              • #139719
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I’m not a scrote nor do I game. I don’t care if publishers require proof of identity to access their platforms. Take your meds no one is forcing you to do anything.

                • #139753
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  except that the TPM module is required to install windows 11 of course

                  • #139754
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Install windows in a VM with an emulated tpm against a hard drive directly passed through to the VM then load it native after installed

                    What I meant is an emulator won’t be able to pass attestation because it won’t have a genuine key

                    Could you not pass the ekcert test with a real tpm but report a different ekpub with an emulated tpm that has been coded to do passthrough?

                    • #139797
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Idk how you would test with one and report with the other. These things will be managed by the applications that check, like valorant in this case, and they’re only gonna ask for your key once.

                      • #139812
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        The emulated tpm could be coded to do so. You shouldn’t cheat in videogames but if websites start some using some crazy shit to use them you should absolutely circumvent them dmca be damned

                      • #139842
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Oh I see I thought you meant pushing 2 keys for the same app.

                    • #139799
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >Could you not pass the ekcert test with a real tpm but report a different ekpub with an emulated tpm that has been coded to do passthrough?
                      some things may be possible for sure. You could feed a real TPM logs that you have faked and make it sign them. Not sure how hard it would be to do that, usually the TPM is interfacing with the motherboard. In theory it should be possible.

        • #139668
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Indeed, so leave, child.

        • #139714
          Anonymous
          Guest

          today it’s gamers, tomorrow you’ll get your mobo banned for chanting "FUCK JOE BIDEN!" or something.

          • #139720
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Have you contemplated using software and operating systems that don’t require you to sign terms that someone else has written? Have you tried writing your own software so you don’t have to deal with this? No? Oh.

    • #139527
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >TPM’s burned-in RSA key (that you can’t change btw)
      Source?

      • #139532
        Anonymous
        Guest

        How do you think tpms work?

      • #139536
        Anonymous
        Guest
        • #139539
          Anonymous
          Guest

          How do you think tpms work?

          >write an emulator to emulate tpm rsa key or generate a new one
          >change user agent to windows
          what is stopping this

          • #139540
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Vanguard has whitelist of endorsement keys to accept, others will too

          • #139572
            Anonymous
            Guest

            the self-signed key will not be accepted by the anticheat, similar to SSL – you can create a certificate, but it will get warnings

          • #139717
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You can simply use the one from VMware workstation like I did. Simple as.

            • #139794
              Anonymous
              Guest

              they can easily check if you’re using a VM

        • #139583
          Anonymous
          Guest

          1.2 Specification doesn’t actually support endorsement. All it can do is store keys woke af on PCR values to tie something to a machine configuration.

          • #139585
            Anonymous
            Guest

            good point, i copied the first thing in my history

      • #139740
        Anonymous
        Guest

        You can change it if your hacking level is high enough

      • #139758
        Anonymous
        Guest

        if your IQ is above room temperature, it’s not very freaking hard.

        • #139761
          Anonymous
          Guest

          > IQ is above room temperature
          I have 293 IQ although I can’t imagine why anyone below that would have any issue.

          • #139762
            Anonymous
            Guest

            In Kelvin? How do you even?

            • #139770
              Anonymous
              Guest

              My IQ is so high that I don’t need to answer that question.

    • #139528
      Anonymous
      Guest

      yes, more reasons to not play chink shit

      • #139591
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This. You deserve it for playing Chinashit

    • #139529
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >windows
      literally everything you do is being tracked you dumb scrotes, this has been well established for years now

      • #139586
        Anonymous
        Guest

        nope

    • #139530
      Anonymous
      Guest
      • #139533
        Anonymous
        Guest

        /threada

      • #139628
        Anonymous
        Guest

        We needed this image years sooner.

      • #139687
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This is a brilliant image mind if I save it?

    • #139531
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They can if you allow them to.
      Why should the government forbid you from giving your RSA key to a company if you want to do it?
      Of course I personally wouldn’t, but if gaymers want to be little cucks they should be allowed to do so.

      • #139765
        Anonymous
        Guest

        lmao just shut up

        • #139767
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >nooooo it’s my god’s given RIGHT to cheat on video games and be allowed to say scrote
          >it’s in the BIBLE

          • #139791
            Anonymous
            Guest

            this but unironically

    • #139534
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Good
      It’s a competitive game for people who want the best anticheat, not pedo freetards who think Chinks are coming after them

      • #139543
        Anonymous
        Guest

        says the dumbass playing chinese-approved malware

        • #139544
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Cope
          You are an automaton, I already know what you’re next reply will be

          • #139550
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >literal "Source: trust me bro"
            Can’t tell if "the absolute state of twatter" or "woke af"

          • #139556
            Anonymous
            Guest

            As him to release the source.

          • #139632
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >"I wrote most of it"
            >the rest is from tencent and Xi

          • #139658
            Anonymous
            Guest
            • #139660
              Anonymous
              Guest

              dear god this can’t be a real person

            • #139684
              Anonymous
              Guest

              He’s a normal lad now

          • #139743
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Kernal code injection
            open source or bust
            LoL kiddies will just eat it up cuz they don’t know anything about this.

          • #139756
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >source: dude trust me

          • #139757
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >i wrote most of it
            could be 49% tencent code and he still wouldn’t be lying

          • #139769
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >unironic "dude trust me" reply
            the absolute state of proprietary software

      • #139552
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >for people who want the best anticheat
        that’s csgo with faceit client

        • #139570
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Do you honestly believe faceit has a better ac than esea? Both are worse than Vanguard

    • #139535
      Anonymous
      Guest
      • #139732
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >
        My mom reads and unironically trusts that website. I can’t get through to her, bros. She won’t listen. She thinks Adam Schiff was killed by firing squad and Trump is the secret president. I don’t know what to do. Those Qscrotes got my mom. Send help

        • #139734
          Anonymous
          Guest

          This country is great, your choice of political party is either denying reality of schizophrenia.

        • #139738
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Trump is the President though. Take your meds.

    • #139537
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Software companies can now track you through your TPM’s burned-in RSA key
      Define "track." They already have your login information, I don’t know why you think that verifying environmental integrity on top of that is some kind of 1984

      • #139538
        Anonymous
        Guest

        this is a free to play game, he is upset he can’t spam scrote and then play on a new account

        • #139620
          Anonymous
          Guest

          im pretty sure the right to spam scrote and play on a new account is in the bill of rights
          if not, it freaking should be
          scrote

          • #139724
            Anonymous
            Guest

            the US constitution protects your right to call anybody a scrote

            • #139727
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Not from any consequences as a result,
              Though

              • #139728
                Anonymous
                Guest

                people aren’t forced to agree with your opinion, no
                though this works both ways, nobody can force you legally to stop calling them a scrote

                • #139729
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  But they can hwid ban you from their service

                • #139731
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  "Fighting words" aren’t protected speech

                  • #139735
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    i’m familiar with that, but the word scrote is not by itself an incitement of violence, only if it’s used like that can it be unprotected, like if i were to seriously utter "lets kill these scrotes", that would surely not be protected as free speech. however if i were to say "sure, i know a few scrotes", this doesn’t incite anything, it may not be pleasant for some people to hear, but it’s not illegal to say

              • #139763
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >freedom of the press doesn’t mean freedom from consequences
                Would be cute if people at least were consistent with this garbage.

              • #139822
                Anonymous
                Guest

                By this stupid american logic even China has free speech, you just go to jail after criticizing the president.

            • #139825
              Anonymous
              Guest

              No it doesn’t. Burgers love pretending the constitution says all kinds of magic things it doesn’t. All it says it the government can’t stop you saying it. But it doesn’t protect your right to do so either.

          • #139795
            Anonymous
            Guest

            > spams scrote
            Damn. I wish that CS:GO had a commend for woke af

    • #139541
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Software companies can now track you
      >can now
      I keep forgetting how stupid LULZ is. Thanks for the hourly reminder.

      • #139596
        Anonymous
        Guest

        the tracking is now cryptographically secure

        • #139777
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >the tracking is now cryptographically secure

    • #139542
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Meanwhile me using a VM with Secure Boot and an emulated TPM

      • #139582
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Anticheat error 862: Hardware check failed

    • #139545
      Anonymous
      Guest

      CS:GO > Valorant

    • #139546
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Software companies can now track you
      yes
      >through your TPM’s burned-in RSA key
      no

      they don’t get your specific tpm information, but tpm being active will prevent software from spoofing to other software trying to read information that could otherwise be spoofed

      • #139547
        Anonymous
        Guest

        go install a logic analyzer between your tpm and mobo
        they do the full attestation sequence

        • #139549
          Anonymous
          Guest

          i could explain this but you seem like one of those little shits that "knows everything" and is resistant to both being told what is correct AND is not willing to do personal research

          so go with your gut, schizo

          • #139555
            Anonymous
            Guest

            i literally installed one (well, more like hacked in an arduino but that’s besides the point) and vanguard does do a full attestation.

          • #139559
            Anonymous
            Guest

            […]
            >

            cringe

            >do your own research
            >n-no not like that!!!!

            • #139560
              Anonymous
              Guest

              youve been bombing all day tbh your post history is cringe (with some leeway for false positives) you absolute insect shut the fuck up

              • #139561
                Anonymous
                Guest

                you could’ve just started off by announcing you’re a schizo

          • #139612
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Absolutely buttblasted

      • #139575
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >they don’t get your specific tpm information
        they could, I don’t think we know how the anticheat works

        >tpm being active will prevent software from spoofing to other software trying to read information that could otherwise be spoofed
        TPM should secure some Windows integrity
        did cheaters hack Windows to get a different hardware ID?

    • #139548
      Anonymous
      Guest

      they could always identify and ban you with HWID
      its not expensive to dodge that, so they recreated it in a way which – if the person wants a more temporary ID online, or evade bans on fortnite battle royale – a more expensive replacement needs to be made to dodge whatever
      dumb doomer

      • #139551
        Anonymous
        Guest

        TPMs are $30 a pop tho
        And mr chinklstein is already hard at work to implement and release sub dollar tpm modules now that there is demand for them

        • #139554
          Anonymous
          Guest

          well then doubly who-cares and why
          you can change it. you can change it for $30. so, basically, you can do whatever you want and the companies still cant permaban you

          • #139580
            Anonymous
            Guest

            the TPM interface on the motherboard is a blessing
            if that gets removed in the future, you will need to shuffle CPUs

        • #139669
          Anonymous
          Guest

          > not when it’s on the CPU
          > and the CPU could be soldered like on a laptop
          still, nothing of value was lost

        • #139755
          Anonymous
          Guest

          If chinks can sign valid tpm ig’s just a mattet of time until they will sell valid keys by the bucket

      • #139601
        Anonymous
        Guest

        There are HWID spoofers, there are no TPM spoofers.

        • #139602
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >TPM spoofers.
          Why would you need a TPM spoofer? Do you not understand how a TPM work? Its not an identification device.

          • #139603
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Yes, it is. It’s a keystore and a smartcard

            • #139604
              Anonymous
              Guest

              You can delete the keys saved in them freely, its not a smartcard

              • #139610
                Anonymous
                Guest

                they come preloaded with a private/public key which is in a list
                you can prove that you are in possession of the private key similar to smart cards

                when you delete everything, you lose your valid private/public key combo

              • #139618
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >TPM spoofers.
                Why would you need a TPM spoofer? Do you not understand how a TPM work? Its not an identification device.

                Not that anon but you may want to read this
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module#Endorsement_keys

                and this

                " The EK Certificate contains the public part of the PEK, as well as other useful fields, such as TPM manufacturer name, part model, part version, key id, etc. This information can be used to uniquely identify the TPM and if the device OEM securely attaches a TPM to the device it can be used as a device identifier"
                https://tpm2-software.github.io/tpm2-tss/getting-started/2019/12/18/Remote-Attestation.html

                • #139629
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Not just deriving a AIK for anonymity
                  scrote please, learn how to use a TPM
                  https://courses.cs.vt.edu/cs5204/fall10-kafura-BB/Papers/TPM/Intro-TPM-2.pdf

                  • #139631
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    It’s not up to me how scroteMAN/anti-cheats will use the TPM

                  • #139634
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    The point is if the anti-cheat people use the EK to woke af on the fact that your TPM attested that it isn’t virtual, then they tie that Key to your account, no other TPM can generate the same code (in theory) thus the TPM you used the first time you play/when you buy the game, that will become the one they require from now on.

                    • #139635
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Seeing how you can easily erase tpm contents this is not how it works. It generates a key per sesion to validate the game and its destroyed/unused after you close the game.

                      • #139637
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        can you go into more detail, what function does the temporary key serve

                      • #139638
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Sorry I didn’t knew you had eyesight problems

                      • #139639
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        My guess is that is it used to encrypt some memory that is used by the anti-cheat to validate what is going on in the computer in a way that cannot be tampered with

                      • #139641
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        thanks

                        Sorry I didn’t knew you had eyesight problems

                        so this means detecting manipulation of memory contents

                      • #139642
                        Anonymous
                        Guest
                      • #139643
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Doesn’t work with tpm integrated in the cpu though

                    • #139636
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      https://i.imgur.com/ZIEgM7N.gif

                      >use the EK to woke af on the fact

                      • #139645
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        sorry let me be more clear

                        1. The EK certificate is issued (cryptographically signed) by the TPM vendor’s CA and verifiers are assumed to trust the vendor’s root certificate. It is important to note that the private part of the EK key is expected to never be exposed outside of the TPM hardware. This ensures an attack TPM cannot easily masquerade as coming from a trusted vendor

                        2. The EK Certificate contains the public part of the PEK, as well as other useful fields, such as TPM manufacturer name, part model, part version, key id, etc. This information can be used to uniquely identify the TPM

                        3.The EK certificate may be stored in the TPM Non Volatile Memory (NVM), where it can be made available to client software or it could be made available online via the OEM’s website

                        Woke af on this information, it seems like software can generate a hash that only your TPM can generate by using part of its EK cert + other information in the PCR that can then be uniquely reproducible by your TPM, so software can send a request and get a hash that only your TPM can produce, then the software can send that back to the home server where it can be stored/tied with your account, so if you sign into your account on another computer, and the software challenges your authenticity, and that new computer returns a different hash because its signed EK is different from your original TPM’s EK, the software can now know you’re on a different computer.

                      • #139647
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yeah, but read this

                        >Not just deriving a AIK for anonymity
                        scrote please, learn how to use a TPM
                        https://courses.cs.vt.edu/cs5204/fall10-kafura-BB/Papers/TPM/Intro-TPM-2.pdf

                        Now you’re not identifiable

                      • #139650
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        see

                        It’s not up to me how scroteMAN/anti-cheats will use the TPM

                        The point I was making was that TPMs are to be uniquely identifiable from each other because they can produce unique hashes, not that every company that has software that uses a TPM will know who you are, you can be anonymous and unique simultaneously because no one entity has all the information

                      • #139651
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >not that every company that has software that uses a TPM will know who you are
                        Then it doesn’t work to ID someone. Thanks anon.

                      • #139652
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        indeed, the people bitching about TPMs should really only be fearful if they cheat in games, as this will be used to ban your computer (until change the TPM/other stuff to generate different hashes)

                        It isn’t another "3rd party cookie" type situation to build identifying profiles on people

        • #139609
          Anonymous
          Guest

          AKCHOOALLY !
          there are software patches that will fool the OS into thinking TPM is present, when it isn’t, so it wouldnt be long before there are patches which substitute some kind of TPM code for another

    • #139553
      Anonymous
      Guest

      That’s right.

    • #139558
      Anonymous
      Guest

      gamur scrotebrains deserve it. also a random screenshots + video footage from your screen should be enforced.

    • #139562
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >one person is saying X
      >one person is saying Y
      >neither is really giving detailed information or sources to back themselves up
      >but one is posting like a 12yo
      He’s probably wrong.

    • #139563
      Anonymous
      Guest

      not that one, say the other line. say it

    • #139564
      Anonymous
      Guest

      fTPM is not burned.

    • #139565
      Anonymous
      Guest

      *HONK HONK*
      Welcome to the new normal. Now bend over.

    • #139566
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Sounds like b&’d second hand computers will be cheap soon enough

    • #139567
      Anonymous
      Guest

      What stops some somebody from making a TPM module that lets you set a key like how most routers let you set a MAC?

    • #139568
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >muh "research" muh "cram buzzwords and hope i can pass"
      you will never pass 🙂

    • #139569
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I’ve been telling people the same thing for over a decade now:

      It’s not the state of the linux desktop that decides the state of foss. Linux, like foss itself, have been perfectly usable for at least two decades.

      The real issue is and always was hardware. Instead of wasting time adapting foss software to propitairy hardware, there should be more effort put into creating open hardware specifically for linux.

      • #139571
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I don’t understand who you’re replying to, Valorant and Windows 11 require a TPM, the people that want to play Valorant would still have this problem even if Linux had open hardware. also Linux does support TPMs too, they aren’t required to use the OS just like they aren’t required for Windows 10, hence why the windows 10 version of Valorant doesn’t require a TPM

    • #139573
      Anonymous
      Guest

      COPE GAYMERscroteS

    • #139574
      Anonymous
      Guest

      What happens when china launches their mandatory linux distro and Windows is banned over there?

    • #139576
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I don’t understand why you wouldn’t just use a console at this point.

      • #139581
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Because there are things you can do on a PC that you can’t do on a console

        More than a lifetimes worth of good games exist for PC and console right now, you could never play a new game again and still be fine. If you really wanted

      • #139685
        Anonymous
        Guest

        PC has far more freedom and typically costs less long-term, but maybe not in the current market.
        Consoles aren’t free of cheaters at this point with tools like Chronus.

    • #139577
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why are you acting like banning you from someones service woke af on unique identifiers is a bad thing? Its a good thing, YOU are breaking their TOS and making the experience shit for everybody.

      • #139578
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Muh tos

      • #139593
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This.

        TPM is OMG this.
        Cheaters SEETHE

        • #139595
          Anonymous
          Guest

          zoom zoom

          Compromising privacy for muh bing bing wa-hoo! yass queen!

          • #139597
            Anonymous
            Guest

            https://i.imgur.com/AerJkbj.gif

            >zoomer scrotebrain cheater who don’t understand how a tpm work calling other people zoomers
            lmao, your short attention span surely impede reading how a tpm works

        • #139598
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Apple scanning my phone is OMG this!
          >Microsoft hashing my home directory is OMG this!
          >Amazon spying on my family’s cameras is OMG this!
          >Facebook harvesting my browsing info is OMG this!

      • #139673
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>>/v/

    • #139579
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Don’t care, fuck cheaters.

    • #139584
      Anonymous
      Guest

      imagine installing a rootkit to play some f2p trash

      • #139811
        Anonymous
        Guest

        its f2p trash now, pozzware anticheat will probably take off like denuvo though

    • #139587
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Sure are a lot of corporate bootlickers in this thread.
      What happened to LULZ?

      • #139588
        Anonymous
        Guest

        2016 and newscrotes on /poo/ who eventually spread to other boards

        • #139715
          Anonymous
          Guest

          /poo/ hates corporate bootlicking you freaking scrote
          it’s scrotes like you coming here claiming that every opinion you dislike is >/poo/ that are the real shills

          • #139759
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Same /poo/ that simps for billionaires, Israel and sometimes the CCP to ‘own the libs’? Yeah, shut the fuck up scrotebrain. Just admit you come from a board filled with election tourist Facebook boomers.

            • #139785
              Anonymous
              Guest

              rent free

            • #139831
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >/poo/ is one person
              your an scrotebrain

      • #139589
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Because you keep giving them replies.

    • #139592
      Anonymous
      Guest

      How about you don’t cheat in games?

      • #139772
        Anonymous
        Guest

        i do what i want with my game you scrote
        feel free to cope and seethe while i swap my account after using my 1488$/day hardware spoofer

      • #139800
        Anonymous
        Guest

        competitive video games are for """"nerd"""" normies – it’s all sports, so you may as well go back to cheering the next hand egg game

    • #139594
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I will NOT use a TPM
      I will NOT live in the pod
      I will NOT eat the bugs

    • #139605
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >using garden gnomedows 11
      No refunds.

    • #139606
      Anonymous
      Guest

      thank freaking christ I use linux

    • #139607
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Good. Fuck cheaters.

    • #139611
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Man I can’t wait until every website requires a locked bootloader and disabled administrator access through some kind of safetynet like attestation system.

      • #139615
        Anonymous
        Guest

        underrated comment
        top kek

        • #139616
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You just know someone from scroteMAN is writing a WebTPM standard.

      • #139621
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Implying you’ll even have a local account.
        You’ll be renting a thin client from your ISP.

        • #139623
          Anonymous
          Guest

          you will be renting it from scroteMAN.

      • #139622
        Anonymous
        Guest

        If that happens their servers will be deconstructed

        • #139624
          Anonymous
          Guest

          By who? By the time this happens there will only be like 10 people who remember how it feels to own things.

          • #139625
            Anonymous
            Guest

            me and my hammer

    • #139626
      Anonymous
      Guest

      How long until the anti-cheat software developers start a tpm blacklist so that getting banned in one game gets you banned from everything? These fuckers are being given the power to start being as gnomish as payment processors.

      • #139627
        Anonymous
        Guest

        what’s it like with VAC on Steam?

        • #139751
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Not sure what you mean since VAC bans are per game

      • #139633
        Anonymous
        Guest

        https://libvirt.org/formatsecret.html#vTPMUsageType

        Those that hate freedom:
        cannot fight
        are incompetent
        will always fail in the end

    • #139630
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >noooo you have to let me use your bidyo gam service or this is literally authoritarian fascism!!!!!

    • #139640
      Anonymous
      Guest

      and yet normies still give these people money

    • #139646
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Buy a prebuilt
      >Play Valorant with cheats for less than 14 days
      >Get a hardware ban
      >Return prebuilt to the store
      >Some shitty kid buys this PC and finds it was hardware banned, throws an autistic fit in his basement

      I thank God for being born in a country with existing consumer protection laws.

      • #139675
        Anonymous
        Guest

        woke af

    • #139648
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Is that account a false flag?

      • #139649
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >ACPD
        >I see PeDo

    • #139653
      Anonymous
      Guest

      when i see this i just have to ask
      its a freaking video game, man. why are people okay with going to these lengths? is seeing a hacker every 50 games or so really the end of the world for gamers? good christ. "competitive integrity" for a goddamn video game. these things used to be to chill out and have fun. now look what’s become of them

      • #139654
        Anonymous
        Guest

        so obsessed with "ladders" "rank" or whatever

    • #139655
      Anonymous
      Guest

      There are scrotebrains on this very board that advocate Windows 11 and are actually excited for it. I sincerely hate consumers and wish they would die out. They are the reason that tech giants keep getting away with shit like this. I admit that it’ll be nice that cheaters will finally get bonked over and people won’t have to deal with them, but it shouldn’t take such a nuclear option to get it to happen.

      • #139656
        Anonymous
        Guest

        cool it with the anti-semitic remark, goy

      • #139657
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Why don’t you stupid fucks understand that giving people power over you isn’t good?

        • #139659
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I never even insinuated that I was cool or okay with it.

    • #139661
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I dont play that game or use windows.

    • #139662
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Games 20 years ago: sell literal books full of cheat codes
      >Games today: Install literal rootkits to prevent cheating
      Where the fuck did we go wrong?

      • #139667
        Anonymous
        Guest

        since normie garden gnometubers started throwing tantrums about basties making fun of people who consoom virtually beyond their safespace in their house.

        speaking of cheats. How can we turn cheat engine open source?

        • #139679
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >How can we turn cheat engine open source?
          Game Conqueror exists on Linux, idk if it has the scripting features of CE. used it a few times for basic things like maxing out money in some games

          • #139682
            Anonymous
            Guest

            can it be used in online gaymes?

      • #139672
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Game devs got too lazy to make fully functional games, so they invented multiplayer PvP.

      • #139823
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Why don’t you understand the difference between multiplayer and singleplayer games?

        • #139824
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Some of these games are basically singleplayer but enforce always online crap. Reminds me of PSU where you can’t play singleplayer without Gameguard anticheat rootkit running.

    • #139663
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I think I understand what free software means now. Imagine caring about any of this crap.

    • #139664
      Anonymous
      Guest

      isn’t TPM 2.0 a requirement for Windows 11 anyway?

      • #139666
        Anonymous
        Guest

        it usually is yes

    • #139665
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Good thing I only use free and open source software huh :^)

    • #139670
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Imagine letting the Chinese government have full control of your pc just because you want to play a video game…

    • #139676
      Anonymous
      Guest

      True, if I were to install such garbage. Dumbass.

    • #139677
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Shit like this why Valve/Proton is the better future for PC.
      Also fuck Valorant and fuck Riot.

    • #139678
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I don’t cheat or say scrote so this is only a good thing for me.

      • #139681
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >say fuck china
        >tpm gets blacklisted
        >get banned from all online games

        • #139683
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >say fuck china
          Something I would never do because I could care less what happens in china

          • #139807
            Anonymous
            Guest

            covid happened in china

    • #139680
      Anonymous
      Guest

      ITT zoomers being zoomers to everyone else

    • #139686
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Unironically woke af. Cheating has become such a problem in modern gaming that something really needs to be done.
      Modern games are trash though, so who cares.

      • #139688
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >sure I don’t mind that the garden gnomes track my every move and monitor all my data for hate speech, just so long as I have muh GAMES
        God damn gamers are a plague that need to be wiped the fuck off the face of the earth.

        • #139689
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >"muh games"
          >unironically whining about taking away your ability to spew hate speech in a freaking video game
          youre a joke

        • #139690
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Why are you blaming gamers
          1st. if you’re not a gamer you don’t need to use Windows 11
          2nd. Microsoft put the requirement for the OS, that is why Valorant can require it. Riot is taking advantage of a policy microsoft is pushing on all Windows users not just gamers

          • #139695
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Gamers provide the demand. The fact that gamers are willing to install literal rootkits like EAC on their PCs in order to play games is what drives companies to use this kind of invasive tech. If gamers took a stand and said hell no I’m not installing that shit then companies would stop doing it.

            • #139699
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Most games don’t use EAC, so you’re really only talking about a subset of gamers. Yet you blame all gamers

              Once again it shouldn’t matter to you, unless you are a gamer, it would be kind of odd to be agamer but also call gamers a plague.

              Also why did you bring up EAC the person you replied to was replying to OP, which was about Valorant, which doesn’t use EAC. Are you complaining about EAC or TPM requirements?

              • #139700
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >Also why did you bring up EAC the person you replied to was replying to OP, which was about Valorant, which doesn’t use EAC.
                Irrelevant. Both are equally invasive rootkits.

              • #139701
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I’m complaining about the general idea of welcoming corporate rootkits as a solution to cheating. Both EAC and TPM are examples of this. The cure is worse than the sickness. I only blame gamers who are okay with that kind of shit, but that seems to be the majority nowadays.

                • #139702
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  No one was welcoming of Windows 8 when it launched, no one was welcoming of Windows 10 when it launched, and now no one is welcoming Windows 11, people switch begrudgingly, and again Microsoft opened this pandora’s box of their own volition, literally only one game requires a TPM and it only requires it on Windows 11 not Windows 10, there is no welcome wagon, people refuse to drop windows and Microsoft is leveraging that to push this, Gamers are not at fault

                  EAC and TPMs are not both examples of RootKits, obviously you’re not using the literal definition so I am sure you know this

                  And trust me once the streaming services get ahold of this they will require it far more than games

                  • #139707
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    A rootkit is a piece of software that exercises full control over the system by running at ring 0 or lower. Both EAC and TPM fit that definition exactly. I don’t think there’s any debate there.

                    >people switch begrudgingly
                    That’s the problem. People bitch and moan but eventually capitulate and swallow the donkey shit because they just HAVE to play the newest Cawadooty AAA release and it’s only available with a bunch of shitty malware. People cucking out is the problem, it doesn’t matter how much you bitch about it, the companies doing this do not give a shit how much heat they get as long as idiots fork over their cash in the end.

                    • #139709
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      EAC is piece of software that is designed to detect cheating

                      a TPM doesn’t by definition control your system, it doesn’t run as ring0 because it doesn’t freaking run on your CPU, it is a 3rd party, it is OS agnostic, it doesn’t do much of anything besides generate keys when asked. It literally doesn’t handle its own log, once the OS takes over the OS takes over control of the TPMs event log because it doesn’t even have enough memory to do that, it is nothing like EAC, other Anti-cheats, or rootkits.

                      >People bitch and moan but eventually capitulate and swallow the donkey shit because they just HAVE to
                      This is starting to sound like, so I will ask you again, WHY DOES THIS MATTER TO YOU? You do not have to use windows 11, you can stay with windows 10 until 2025, you can switch to linux, the only reason I could assume why this bothers you so much is because you are also unwilling to give up WIndows and know you will be affected by this

                      >it doesn’t matter how much you bitch about it, the companies doing this do not give a shit
                      Exactly, this is exactly my point, you’re blaming gamers when companies are going to do it regardless

                      • #139710
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Companies wouldn’t do it if gamers didn’t buy their bullshit. Why is that hard to understand?
                        >this doesn’t effect you hurr durr
                        Shill tier argument.

                      • #139711
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        The company pushing this literally is requiring it of the OS, not because gamers, it isn’t even a microsoft game.

                        >this doesn’t affect you
                        was not my argument

                        My question was
                        "why does this matter to you"
                        If you are one of those people that still install Windows 11 then I completely understand why you would be upset. But you and I both know that if you are one of those people then you’re part of the problem too. Which would invalidate your argument against gamers.

                        The only argument I have made is that gamers aren’t at fault Microsoft is

                      • #139712
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >why does this matter to you
                        >why do you care about anti-piracy laws? just use a VPN
                        >why do you care about trannies in tech? just ignore them
                        >why do you care about scrotes in your city? just move to the suburbs
                        >why do you care about hate speech laws? just don’t say nigg- oh wait now hate speech laws apply to all sorts of other stuff too? no problem just put on a mask and stay stone faced and don’t speak to anyone about politics ever and you won’t lose your job, not a problem right?
                        >just bury your head in the sand goy
                        >why do you care about the falling white birthrate it’s not like you’re gonna have kids anyway
                        >you’ll all by extinct in a few generations anyway goy
                        >why do you care about anything?
                        >nothing matters

                      • #139713
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >why do you care about anti-piracy laws? just use a VPN
                        I advocate for copyright law reform, and support the pirate party
                        >why do you care about trannies in tech? just ignore them
                        Yeah, do you really care about the identity of who wrote the software?
                        >why do you care about scrotes in your city?
                        I am a scrote
                        >why do you care about hate speech laws?
                        There are no hate speech laws in the USA, I want it to stay that way
                        >just bury your head in the sand goy
                        I want you to blame microsoft, not shut up
                        >why do you care about the falling white birthrate it’s not like you’re gonna have kids anyway
                        I’m a scrote, and I don’t care about any falling birthrate
                        >why do you care about anything?
                        I want you to blame microsoft, not gamers
                        >nothing matters
                        I want you to blame microsoft, not gamers, also I would really appreciate it if you accepted our lord and savior linux

                      • #139718
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Linux isn’t Jesus or your mother anon, seek help. Please.

                      • #139721
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >>why do you care about the falling white birthrate it’s not like you’re gonna have kids anyway
                        >>you’ll all by extinct in a few generations anyway goy
                        No one cares about whites

        • #139692
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Just have a burner PC for video games then.

          • #139694
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >just consoom more product, goyim cattle

        • #139778
          Anonymous
          Guest

          the problem is their solutions to cheating.

    • #139704
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >mfw i have an X99 chipset and can just throw old TPM out and buy a new one
      Gonna keep hacking in your games lads, no much you can do about it. Sweaty zoomers deserve a good floggin anyway.

    • #139706
      Anonymous
      Guest

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IF YOU TAKE AWAY MUH HACKIN N MUH scroteINO SAYIN I HAVE TO GO BACK TO TORTURING CATS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      • #139708
        Anonymous
        Guest

        The lazy hands of a gamedev typed this post.

      • #139725
        Anonymous
        Guest

        your computer is slowly turning into a console-like controlled platform and all you have to say is "well maybe you shouldn’t be cheating"
        i don’t like cheaters either, but that really isn’t the problem here

    • #139716
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >cheat in one videogame
      >lose your entire collection of videogames
      The potential for abuse idea this can open up
      Cheating in online games is painful, but this is the wrong way to deal with it

      • #139736
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Back before people went scrotebrained hackers in a counter strike server was funny to see because they’d often be spinning around and you would type a command in chat to have them banned, an admin would load up counter strike on their work machines because they always ran some from the Colo center that ran and ban the guy. Nobody should put up with this shit. Cs:go has none of this shit and the gameplay is infinitely better.

        • #139764
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yes, seeing an obvious cheater is funny, but people use cheats as a cope for when someone is just better than them.

    • #139722
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Leading anti-shart
      Didn’t their rootkit got defeated in the beta?

      • #139726
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It was just the framework in the beta, the not all the modules were on
        >inb4 cope
        I’m right, now follow my prediction, automaton

    • #139723
      Anonymous
      Guest

      yes, that and they can ensure everything between the game and hardware is unmodified (read: cannot be modified by the computer "owner")

    • #139730
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Tpm isn’t used for tracking anon. It’s used for rsa keys and signed code. They already have methods to track everything you do regardless of your os. Tpm is just going to be used to lock your bootloader like it is on cell phones.

      • #139796
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >They already have methods to track everything you do regardless of your os.
        That’s exactly the problem: none of the methods used for tracking on PCs were designed for that purpose, they are still using them that way
        TPM makes it possible to track you deterministically, as long as you do not add mitigations

        of course, locking down the operating system is a main feature of TPM and one we also don’t like

        • #139798
          Anonymous
          Guest

          How do I get a machine id from a TPM? I tried to find this out one time but I couldn’t find anything useful.

          • #139806
            Anonymous
            Guest

            you would ignore the best practice the trusted computing group has outlined and just grab the "endorsment key" from the TPM

            this is a public key of a public/private key combo that your TPM was preloaded with
            the manufacturer has signed this key (run their private key over your public key and added the result to the chip) so everyone can download the public key of the manufacturer and check if the endorsment key you provided is signed by them

    • #139733
      Anonymous
      Guest

      When you install games they already grab unique serial numbers from your motherboard, ram, cpu, gpu, mac address and all usb devices.

      • #139793
        Anonymous
        Guest

        provide some citations on the unique serial numbers
        Intel wanted to add them to CPU but was criticized and abandoned the plan

        model number + firmware version is obviously not a unique identifier

        MAC is unique, but can be spoofed

        do these have unique serials that can be read by software
        motherboard
        RAM
        GPU
        mouse and keyboard

        • #139801
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >provide some citations on the unique serial numbers
          doesn’t windows activation work this way since w10?

          • #139802
            Anonymous
            Guest

            windows activation uses fingerprinting and that is very reliable, I do not know if there are actual unique identifiers in the mix

        • #139804
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Intel wanted to add them to CPU but was criticized and abandoned the plan
          The fuck are you on about? Almost every CPU will report it’s serial number unless you disable it in BIOS. I sell software that uses the CPU serial as a machine id. Rarely do I find any hardware that doesn’t provide this when I ask for it.

      • #139844
        Anonymous
        Guest

        They can grab the edid of your monitor and read your arp table

    • #139741
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Riot banned Linux some time ago those fgts but i can still play on emulator

    • #139742
      Anonymous
      Guest

      We told you all along. They’re trying to require TPM so that you will lose all control of your PC to DRM.
      I guess it’s being pioneered by they most restrictive "Anti cheat" rootkit, but netflix, steam and spotify will be next…

      • #139747
        Anonymous
        Guest

        […]

        FUD. TPM ensures secure boot can’t be broken, since by default user can add his own keys to Secure Boot enclave.
        Obviously they want to ensure that nothing can intercept their driver before in boots into ring0.
        Also, no key in TPM is permanent, it can be reset and it will regenerate its keys.

        • #139814
          Anonymous
          Guest

          you can do this but you will be banned from the safetynet

    • #139749
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Just don’t play shitty games that require you to jump through scrotebrained hoops to play them.
      There’s enough other games.

    • #139752
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >we cloned cs go
      >we took everything that valve fixed but made it worst
      >what can we do to send more people back to cs go?
      >just tpm ban them!

      lmao those companies

    • #139766
      Anonymous
      Guest

      If they don’t trust me, why should I trust them?

    • #139768
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >buy tons of tpm motherboards
      >load cheat software on them
      >get banned
      >flood the used computer market with blacklisted parts
      i’d do this if i was rich

    • #139774
      Anonymous
      Guest

      do you guys use secureboot or tpm on a linux machine

      • #139787
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yes but I don’t trust it to do my encryption

    • #139775
      Anonymous
      Guest

      With TPM you wouldn’t need containment boards anymore, just TPM ban everyone that’s ever been on /poo/ and go from there

      • #139786
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >this frightens the election tourist
        woke af

      • #139789
        Anonymous
        Guest

        to have less chud shizos sounds nice

    • #139776
      Anonymous
      Guest

      > competitive integrity

    • #139779
      Anonymous
      Guest

      the whole point of "TPM" was always about "security," security from you tampering.

    • #139780
      Anonymous
      Guest

      SHOULD I DISABLE TPM AND SECURE BOOT ON MY LINUX PC

      • #139781
        Anonymous
        Guest

        no. On linux you have the freedom to use it or not. On winshitty nonfree platforms, nonfree shitware will use systems like TPM for hardware attestation.

        • #139783
          Anonymous
          Guest

          so tpm is good for linux?

          • #139815
            Anonymous
            Guest

            tpm is a tool, like encryption or antivirus
            the problem is when you can’t whitelist/disable the av or when you can’t decrypt your own files because of ransomware

            • #139817
              Anonymous
              Guest

              What has this got to do with TPM?

              • #139818
                Anonymous
                Guest

                TPM ensures that your operating system has not been tampered with. The problem would be when your OS restricts you, then you can’t modify and still run it

                similarily, when you run rogue software it will try to fingerprint you, if you do not run such software, the unique ID does not matter

                • #139819
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  My question was what was disabling the AV or ransomware got to do with the TPM?

                  • #139820
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    when you encrypt files yourself, you can decrypt them and they are safe on the storage device. However, the operating system can use TPM to prevent you from accessing the files on a different device (DRM). In this case, the encryption works against you.
                    Disabling AV would be similar to saying: Load the operating system even though "it has been tampered with". If you can decide, this is a protection from rootkits. If you can not decide, it’s locking down your device.

                    • #139821
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >the operating system can use TPM to prevent you from accessing the files on a different device
                      By what mechanism can it do this?

                      >Disabling AV would be similar to saying: Load the operating system even though "it has been tampered with"
                      How is disabling an "AV" tampering? By the same logic loading any software at all would be "tampering"

                      • #139826
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >By what mechanism can it do this?
                        The TPM can make sure when you start the operating system it goes through a chain of trust. First the bootloader is checked and it is only loaded when it has not been changed. Then parts of the operating system are checked before they are loaded.
                        In the end, you should have an operating system that was not changed because the components passed the hash checks.
                        When the OS has passed these checks, the TPM releases the decryption key to the OS. If the operating system does not let you save the files elsewhere, you will always need to use the TPM secured OS to access the files (encrypted on disk).

                        >How is disabling an "AV" tampering? By the same logic loading any software at all would be "tampering"
                        let’s say you take an executable and you modify it. The AV may block the executable and warn you that it "has been tampered with".
                        Many people would say you do not need a whitelisting feature, because running modified executables is pointless and bad.

                      • #139827
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        What has this got to do with malware?

                        >let’s say you take an executable and you modify it.
                        Not really responding to the question.

                      • #139829
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >What has this got to do with malware?
                        ransomware encrypts files and you can not decrypt them without asking the criminals for permission
                        This was an example about encryption being a tool, it is not always bad or always good
                        and yes, with TPM you could encrypt files against the wish of the user

                        >>let’s say you take an executable and you modify it.
                        >Not really responding to the question.
                        disabling AV is not tampering, but it allows tampering
                        a tamper resistent AV does not let you disable it

                      • #139830
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >ransomware encrypts files and you can not decrypt them without asking the criminals for permission
                        Yes I know. What connection does this have with the TPM? Seems like ransomware has absolutely nothing to do with the TPM.

                        >disabling AV is not tampering, but it allows tampering
                        a tamper resistent AV does not let you disable it
                        This is literally skitzo shit. Read what you just types.

    • #139784
      Anonymous
      Guest

      cheaters being permabanned in universally considered a good thing, even among cheaters

    • #139788
      Anonymous
      Guest

      in theory steam and co. can ban me now for pirating games, right?

      • #139813
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Play pirated games in a VM without a network interface card

    • #139790
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Software companies can now track you through your TPM’s burned-in RSA key (that you can’t change btw) and also permanently ban your whole PC in case you break their TOS
      Yes. You can buy a new motherboard tho.

      • #139792
        Anonymous
        Guest

        or a new CPU
        any way, talk shit get hit

    • #139803
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/QD0S97J.gif

      I’ve had it LULZ. Who actually gives a fuck about people cheating in videogames? I got my start in programming from scripting on Habbo Hotel and it’s freaking weird to me when I see people crying about people hacking and cheating in games like it’s even a problem that needs solving. I shit you not, I’ve seen people unironically saying insane shit like "cheating in videogames should be a crime" these last few years and it’s the most cringeworthy autism I have ever seen.

      What happened to games being about just having fun and freaking around? G*mers are mentally ill.

      • #139805
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Cheating makes some games less fun. It’s really not that hard to understand why people might have an issue with it.

        • #139808
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Cheating makes some games less fun. It’s really not that hard to understand why people might have an issue with it.
          So play with people who don’t cheat, scrotebrain. If you’re talking about online matches with strangers, then the solution isn’t whatever the fuck OP is talking about. What happened to just reporting people, putting them in cheaterpools, or banning them?

          • #139809
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >So play with people who don’t cheat, scrotebrain
            Wow you solved cheating! Holy shit!

            • #139810
              Anonymous
              Guest

              I unironically have. Just change lobbies, bitch.

              • #139834
                Anonymous
                Guest

                If only you could. Now there aren’t lobbies, just data centers or centeralized servers.

              • #139835
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >lobbies
                isn’t it time for your meds granpa?

                • #139836
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >NOOO, THAT’S AN OLD SOLUTION
                  >GOOD NEW, OLD BAD

    • #139816
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >To prevent cheating in chess we started strapping the players into aparatus that only allow them to make legal moves, leading the anti-cheat industry in the right direction for competitive integrity

    • #139828
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Schizo, just play games offline. Cloud woke af spying is the future of online games. If you really want to play with other people, just get a separate console instead. Multiplayer online games are always a waste of time.

    • #139833
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought valorant was a mobile game

      the graphics are shit

    • #139837
      Anonymous
      Guest

      How does TPM work as an anti-cheat?

      • #139838
        Anonymous
        Guest

        1) makes sure the operating system/kernel has not been hacked
        2) can get a unique ID from the chip

        • #139839
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >1) makes sure the operating system/kernel has not been hacked
          How does the game make sure of this?
          2) can get a unique ID from the chip
          How does this help with anything?

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