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So, is there any reason not to use/trust it?
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just use whatsapp or whatever freaking app your region uses and stop being a turboscrote.
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>just use whatsapp
shut up shill -
>WhatsApp
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Unironically this. I can’t stop seeing through Brian Acton’s bullshit every time he criticizes facebook and shills this app.
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Unironically this. I can’t stop seeing through Brian Acton’s bullshit every time he criticizes facebook and shills this app.
Facebook is working out some kind of content reporting system on whatsapp which I don’t know if it’s in place but it had a crypto bug in it that allowed decryption of messages
Further, India is pushing Facebook to implement some weird crap called ‘traceability’ which would allow them to prove who was sharing or originating myths in India because somehow that’s a problem that leads to rioting or whatever or so they say.
The thing about large corporations is they bow down to giant consumer markets like China and India so you can’t really trust them for privacy.
I would use signal.
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Centralized so 1 pajeet uploading a wrong setting will fuck you. Requires a telephone number. Servers in the USA, though data should be E2E so theoretically that shouldn’t matter.
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kek
he does have a big shnozz
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Three reasons not to trust it:
1. Phone number requirement
2. Google simping
3. 1,001 third-party dependencies ripe for zero-day exploits to be sold to exploit brokers-
Agreeing with
Use Xmpp. Matrix. Briar.If you must into enterprise, maybe threema.
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Ok, awesome, who the fuck will I be talking to there? Who has it?
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It was also funded by the US State Department.
Honestly, use Threema instead.
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objectively worse than whatsapp, but obviously we shouldn’t use whatsapp because da man
it’s basically dead in the water and the market it does have is ripe for being eaten by an actually decent app
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But le Edward Snowden is using it
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so what should we use instead then?
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stop supporting cryptocurrency ponzi schemes:
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/04/wtf-signal-adds-cryptocurrency-support.html -
Oy Moxie Tetelbaum, Goym.
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It’s primarily written and used by democrats and trannies. Use telegram, scrote
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>telegram
when will you magats ever join the modern age? -
>It’s primarily written and used by democrats and trannies. Use telegram, scrote
This post perfectly sums up why alt-right scrotebrains are braindead. Telegram is analogous to horse-dose ivermectin -
>americans are so utterly brainwashed by media that they believe a messaging app is "chud" and a medical treatment is "alt-right"
Tell me anons, is the letter "A" left-wing or right wing?
Is the number "3" left-wing or right-wing?
Is the color green left-wing or right-wing?
Is the "STOP" sign left-wing or right-wing?
Is the lambda calculus left-wing or right-wing?
Are anime left-wing or right-wing?
Are forks and spoons left-wing or right-wing?
Is classical music left-wing or right-wing?
Are cats and dogs left-wing or right-wing?
Are sea anemones left-wing or right-wing?
Is snow left-wing or right-wing?
Is Uranus left-wing or right-wing?
Are electrons left-wing or right-wing?
Is your single shared neuron left-wing or right-wing?-
wanting to reach a like-minded community is a salient reason for picking one thing over another, just as the limited reach of a service like cellular phones in the area you lived, or in the area people whom you wanted to contact lived, was a salient reason to pick between different service providers at the time when that technology was novel, and there was actual competition, to some extent.
or if, for another example, you disliked the selection of channels on different sattelite or cable providers, that would also be a reasonable metric to decide what service to pick.
centrism is brain-dead. you always must pick between different options, and in choosing not-to-choose (a choice, which rather than true neutrality, you are blatantly biased in favor of) but which choice usually comes with intolerable downsides.
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>willfully committing to live in echo chambers and social-information bubble
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high trust and (moderately) intellectually homogeneous communities promote focused attention and high-effort analysis.
you cant collaboratively create something complex if youre stuck bikeshedding stuff or fighting internicine conflicts about whether you want to abolish race/class/property or not.
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so thats why LULZ has no nice things
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>Tell me anons, is the letter "A" left-wing or right wing?
left
>Is the number "3" left-wing or right-wing?
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>Is the color green left-wing or right-wing?
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>Is the "STOP" sign left-wing or right-wing?
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>Is the lambda calculus left-wing or right-wing?
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>Are anime left-wing or right-wing?
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>Are forks and spoons left-wing or right-wing?
forks right, spoons left
>Is classical music left-wing or right-wing?
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>Are cats and dogs left-wing or right-wing?
cats right, dogs left
>Are sea anemones left-wing or right-wing?
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>Is snow left-wing or right-wing?
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>Is Uranus left-wing or right-wing?
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>Are electrons left-wing or right-wing?
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>Is your single shared neuron left-wing or right-wing?
wouldn’t you like to know, weather boy?
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Would that not make it a decent option for flying under the radar? They seem to get away with everything they try to do.
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I care about privacy but its threads like this that make me think the entire endeavor is pointless and full of contrarian schizos.
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Just use session, it’s much better
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Google Messages uses the Signal protocol so there’s no need to use Signal anymore.
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Yeah accept when it backs up your messages to google or w/e itll do and also when it uploads your contacts to your carrier to negotiate rcs availability.
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I’m just joshing. Signal is the way to go.
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glow harder you freaking shill
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I need this for my job. Does this work on Lineage or UBPorts?
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axolotl is trash, but signald bridged to matrix will work on fluffychat or element no problem. you can even use it exclusively via the bridge meaning no phone app installed.
ubports can run element from fdroid inside anbox (if your device is supported) and fluffychat can handle notifications for you if you still need those.
EMS from vector (element creators) can do the signal bridge ootb for $.50 a month on top of your own hosted matrix home server for $10 a month, or you can be autistic and set it all up yourself
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So Ubuntu Touch needs axolotl but desktop Ubuntu doesn’t? How the hell does that work?
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openwhisper are a bunch of centralized control glowies that refuse to provide users the ability to build their own binaries from source.
signal glows like Venus on the solstice
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I saw they did android a while back
https://signal.org/blog/reproducible-android/
I don’t know if iOS was ever done but iOS would probably be harder provide a reproducible binary given third party licenses I assume.
I don’t think signal app is pwned by feds.-
who cares if it’s the app is compromised, when you have absolutely no ability to verify the servers do what they claim? on top of that, every letter you type into it goes through an internet connected keyboard app if you’re a normy, so the security is useless in the first place.
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well on android at least if there was a backdoor in the app someone reverse engineering woudl probably find it eventually.
But if you don’t trust your hardware then yes, the app is useless.
I am not convinced right now today the hardware is not trustworthy on say a commodity phone but I think we’re heading real quick towards that and having an adversarial OS.
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>signal glows like Venus on the solstice
I wouldn’t have that shit on my phone were it not for my job. We used to use WhatsApp, holy shit, and we’re government contractors. -
You are a braindead scrotebrain or actual shill. Read this, scrotes:
https://signal.org/bigsis/central-california-grand-jury/
>"The only information Signal maintains that is responsive to subpoena’s inquiries about particular user account is the time of account creation and the time of the account’s last connection to Signal servers."
As far as messaging apps on (((smartphones))) go, Signal is solid.
Still, obvious should be repeated:
>NO SILVER BULLET EXISTSSame applies.
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>the time of account creation and the time of the account’s last connection to Signal servers
Not that it changes much, but why not just go all the way and get rid of these as well? Is there a reason?
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there’s no known reason not to trust it.
However it’s useless if you store all your convos, say things the FBI won’t like, and don’t use a separate pass code just for signal.
However other apps don’t even have that protection.-
How many MobileCoins do you earn per post?
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none and I don’t want any. Some people just don’t like police states. Do you have any refutations of signal app security or just /poo/ tier trash talk?
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It’s shilled very hard.
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built for big blue sea
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I was trying to but the best I could muster was to convince some acquaintances to move to Telegram from Whatsapp so I am stuck with Telegram instead.
Still better than where they were, at least I do not have to have any account related to Facebook.
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matrix protocol
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I recall it receiving a few million from the defence state in its development under the guise of enabling foreign nationals to organize against their governments. Like its probably fine to sell drugs and even human traffic on, I doubt they’d use up any backdoor for such small time activities. Look at the chastisement Telegrams’ gotten compared to Signal, something’s probably up- just like Protonmail, false-bottoms of privacy.
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>source code was finally updated 2 days ago after over a year with not updates
I use it with caution
Normally use session instead -
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Pretty sure you can see how they responded to requests its pretty woke af if I remember correctly.
https://signal.org/bigsis/central-california-grand-jury/
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>reason not to use it
less popular
lack of extra functionality (some might call it bloat and like that)
>reason not to trust it
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It’s 5 years away from being Whatsapp.
Use xmpp.-
Stop talking about stuff you have no clue about, scrotebrain.
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use Session
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>use something made in a country where everyone is pretty much legally obligated to put a backdoor in their software
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glow harder cunt
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>gather all that drivel
>while already being btfo’d itt
Dumb.Pretty sure you can see how they responded to requests its pretty woke af if I remember correctly.
https://signal.org/bigsis/central-california-grand-jury/
If they had more information and didn’t supply it they would be I’m big trouble. Big legal trouble.You are a braindead scrotebrain or actual shill. Read this, scrotes:
https://signal.org/bigsis/central-california-grand-jury/
>"The only information Signal maintains that is responsive to subpoena’s inquiries about particular user account is the time of account creation and the time of the account’s last connection to Signal servers."
As far as messaging apps on (((smartphones))) go, Signal is solid.
Still, obvious should be repeated:
>NO SILVER BULLET EXISTS[…]
Same applies.
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needs phone number
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>cloud act
>closed source-
Good thing Signal is neither.
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Their servers are in the US, so Cloud Act applicable.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_ActThere was a time where they didn’t update their public repo for a year. Apparently they did a while ago. Still it leaves a bad taste.
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>muh subpoena
You are a braindead scrotebrain or actual shill. Read this, scrotes:
https://signal.org/bigsis/central-california-grand-jury/
>"The only information Signal maintains that is responsive to subpoena’s inquiries about particular user account is the time of account creation and the time of the account’s last connection to Signal servers."
As far as messaging apps on (((smartphones))) go, Signal is solid.
Still, obvious should be repeated:
>NO SILVER BULLET EXISTS[…]
Same applies.
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Just use Threema.
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For me its Jami
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I’ve been using it for over a year and it’s fine
but I still have to use memegram because nobody except my closest friends and wife careI’ve been wanting to try matrix but it’s too much of a hassle, memegram literally just works, and the same applies to signal. I think you need to click like 3 more times to start using Matrix and that’s unacceptable.
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This. We can only trust trustless.
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It’s the best messenger, but I will not register as long as it’s mandatory to give them my phone number, which in my shit country has to be linked with my id.
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Glowscrote honeypot, they even spit in their users face and just force them to identify themselves with phone number while claiming privacy. How dumb one has to be to trust product shilled by blue checkmarks, getting money from oligarchs, government even and made by some arrogant rosenberg? Do you realize they shat on other messengers for not having open source servers while not updating their source for more than a year and having servers in glowscrote country?
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