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>Puts some audio recorders in a building
>Is literally the devil
Why is he hated so much? I mean, plenty of presidents, Republican and Democrat, have done worse shit than him. Is it because he pussied out and left office instead of owning up to it like a man? -
Nixon is hated because he was hated by the garden gnomes, and garden gnomes tell Americans who they are supposed to hate.
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Probably hated by WASPs and liberal garden gnomes for his populist white working class base/style, but he was actually quite good for Israel. Privately anti-Semitic but so were most.
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Nixon had always strongly supported civil rights, he wasn’t a racist even if he cracked the occasional scrote joke in private as probably all of you have done at some point.
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Watergate was a lot more shit than just the one break in. Zoomers don’t really get that it’s the one thing that he got caught for that revealed all of the other illegal behavior.
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>PRESIDENTS COMMITTING ILLEGAL ACTS BECAUSE- JUST BECAUSE, OK?
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because he was on track to becoming the greates president in america’s history, and he was a republican white man he disliked garden gnomes, blacks and scrotes. He had to be taken out.
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He was hated long before the watergate scandal, and he was hated by everyone because he lied as easily as he breathed and because he was utterly amoral, doing things like extending the vietnam war, not caring how many more people freaking died so he could end it in an election year.
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The ’68 peace talks had zero hope of success regardless of muh Chennault.
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>I totally have to wait 4 more years to pull out of this situation when I am the commander in chief of the military because uh… reasons..
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You do know that Nixon oversaw the withdrawal of almost all US combat forces from South Vietnam, right
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>you’re not allowed to be a politician when you’re president
weird set of rules you have but I don’t think it has any bearing in reality-
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST HATE A POLITICIAN FOR BEING AN UTTER SCUMBAG DATS JUST DEY CULCHA
have a nice day my man
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>When it was convenient for him, yeah.
What’s that even supposed to mean? Complete withdrawal was never going to happen, and Nixon was already campaigning on de-Americanization in the ’68 election.-
(cont.) "Complete withdrawal" in this context being the immediate withdrawal of all US forces shortly after the ’68 election before any idiot starts smugly posting pictures of helicopters on the embassy
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Meanwhile we were in Afghanistan and Iraq for 20 years, droning citizens is legal, and you have no privacy any longer.
The point isn’t that Nixon was good, but that all other modern Presidents have been just as bad if not worse.-
That doesn’t make Nixon good.
He could have ended the war at any time.
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WHY THE FUCK IS THIS THE NEW HOT TAKE EVERYWHERE
Seriously, shut the fuck up about watergate not holding a candle to other scandals since and society becoming less outraged by bigger events, WE GET IT-
It is true that the saddest thing about Nixon is that every president since has been just like him but worse, they just have better PR.
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Jimmy Carter was not like him. Neither was Barack Obama.
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Obama pulled something even scummier than Watergate to try to sabotage Trump’s campaign. He also had several noteworthy egregious foreign policy errors people just ignore for some reason.
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It’s true, he was never fully prosecuted for the piles of american dead on the burning fields of Benghazi
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autism?
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no
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>uses IRS to target political opponents
>gets a warrant to spy on opposing campaign through bogus evidence
>breaks a treaty in Ukraine, leading to an ongoing war
>waffles on Syria
>caves to European pressure to intervene in Libya, despite no one having any plans for what to do afterwards
>ignored everyone who repeatedly told him ISIS was going to happen
>escalated and further botched Afghanistan
This is just off the top of my head. He was every bit as bad as the others-
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Looks like the meds leave him unable to type more than a few words. Good
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dilate
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Low quality spammers like you are why LULZ isn’t as good as it could be. You’re only here to push your political agenda anyway.
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But there’s more. He also thoroughly weaponized the media and the Internet as a servant of the Democrat Party. Any time you hear of conservative media or political figures getting blacklisted from social media or search engines don’t show their websites it’s because he saw to it that any viewpoint that wasn’t that of globohomo Democrats was excised.
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you didn’t even bring up fast&furious
shit still makes my blood boil -
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I mean he gave the ok to commit a smash-and-grab on his political opponents and then fired everyone investigating it. That’s conspiracy under the color of law, which turns a break-in into a felony.
He is loathed because he represented the dark side of the Cold War. He came up in the game on HUAC throwing stand-up comedians and screenwriters in prison because of their political beliefs, and selling homespun morality to the public while being a disgusting ruthless crook.-
>He came up in the game on HUAC throwing stand-up comedians and screenwriters in prison because of their political beliefs
To be fair, post-Soviet leaks like the Verona Papers prove that most of them really were communist spies, and that the McCarthy trials might not have gone far enough.-
The people ran the Verona Project literally say McCarthy harmed their work though.
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Because he was funny and woke af during the time of scrotebrained hippies. They didn’t like him for being a populist so they pounced on him for Watergate
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Nixon was a populist? You can look up what these words mean, friendo.
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>friendo
Cool it with the reddit-speak you’re trying too hard. Nixon was elected by one of the widest margins in history as a Republican in a time where culture was liberalizing. Having such popular support despite a changing culture makes him a populist-
No it doesn’t lol
Nixon was like the single most establishment politician in the history of the United States
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You must be ESL or something. Nixon’s whole shtick was appealing to the “moral majority” the silent mass of voters who didn’t express their beliefs publicy
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His whole thing was appealing for normalcy against the anti-government left.
He wasn’t a populist by any metric. He wasn’t a political outsider, he was vice president for eight years, and ran for president once before losing. All of the policies he advocated were policies with broad support among the elite class.
He was the anti-populist, that’s the actual reason he got elected.
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A populist doesn’t have to be a political outsider though, a populist is someone who tries to strike a chord with the common people
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sis, every politician tries to appeal to a majority of people. That’s how you win elections.
"Populist" means appealing to people by running against elites. That’s the definition of the word.
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Yes, because you are physically incapable of espousing populist rhetroic while being an elite.
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Boy for someone who posted the definition of the word you really don’t seem to understand it. Nixon appealed to the people who felt their interests hadn’t been represented by the Johnson administration and who longed for a return to law and order after the 60s, which all make him way more appealing than Humphrey
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People underestimate how clean US politics in the pre-Watergate era was. Most subsequent administrations got away with worse but few previous ones did, presidential politics from Coolidge to LBJ were basically honest.
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>LBJ
>involved with or knew about zionist assassination of JFK on some level
>covered up USS Liberty attack
>ordered planes to retreat
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>US politics pre-Watergate
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lol, LBJ had Goldwater’s private plane bugged by the FBI, it only seems "clean" because most of the shit was swept under the rug -
>Kennedy
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>LBJ
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garden gnomeBJ assassinated JFK.
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>FDR, JFK, LBJ
>clean
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Republicans sure hate rule of law and love crime I guess.
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He tried protecting the Watergate guys, which to be honest he should have just dunked on them.
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Democrats always did shit just as bad or wose (like JFK stealing the 1960 election), the difference is that Nixon tried to do it without having the media on his side. You can get away with anything so long as the media and academia are willing to cover for you, considering that they’re the ones who actually rule this country.
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I have an unhealthy fascination with this period in history. Reading everything that happened after the fact has a stranger-than-fiction feeling to it
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Because he was a Republican and he wasn’t photogenic or charismatic. That is all.
He wasn’t a great President. He also wasn’t the worst President. But he is the most hated. Life isn’t fair.
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Nixon was the ultimate embodiment of The Man for the hippies. All of the hatred they had for crude redneck LBJ was dumped on Nixon as soon as he took office. Imagine the hatred that the left has for Trump today, except that both Trump and modern libs are hedonist consoomers, while Nixon and the hippies were polar opposites in a culture war even more extreme that today’s. (And yes, the hippies were consoomerist LARPers who quickly sold out) Trump posted mean tweets—Nixon was going to stop the love-in, turn off the music, bust you for dope, cut your hair and send you to ‘Nam, man.
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Hippies weren’t as relevant socially as media pretends they were. Hippies were an extension of the failed civil rights movement coupled with young people realizing that government spending isn’t intrinsically linked to spiritual enlightenment. But mostly the economy was shit, illegal immigration was skyrocketing, crime was through the roof and we were in a war that destroyed our economy. But some of them couldn’t break their conditioning and turned their malaise and hatred towards the other sportsball team
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The Nixon Administration was also the first time when Americans started realizing the deep state’s misdeeds, it was no longer the 50s and J. Edgar Hoover selling you on the image of dedicated, scrupulously honest G men who always got the bad guys. In 2021 we already know what they do, there’s no element of shock and outrage like there was in that more innocent time.
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Every good lie has an ounce of truth. With the CIA leaking information directly to the New York Times they could basically make up whatever they wanted about Nixon’s motives, which is what they did. Despite this Nixon won a landslide election and the allegations were seen as an attempt to derail his campaign (which they were). Just like the Russia hoax. A year later is when the orchestrators of Watergate were crucified on live television. The burglars blackmailed Nixon for hush money, which they got. It was later learned that they had been paid off so the courts gave them 40 years in prison and gave them the ultimatum of talking to get their sentence lowered. Dean (Nixon’s lawyer) at the time was under investigation and rapidly destroying evidence of his involvement, which he never disclosed to Nixon. Dean then began to dig up any and all incriminating information on other staff members as a fail-safe. When he was convinced he had enough incriminating evidence he then switched gears and feeding the investigators all the information incriminating others to try and get attention off of himself.
Investigators also started pouring through every single campaign donation Nixon was connected to to try and establish a narrative of bribery (also linked to the DNC Watergate misinformation campaign) but this didn’t really pan out and was conjecture at best. Dean’s testimony was broadcast and had massive ratings, in it he drew his trump card and for the first time ever attempted to incriminate Nixon himself by saying everything he said was true because Nixon recorded it. There was no actual legal leverage that Dean had over Nixon, but allowing his message to be so widely publicized outraged citizens. This added the needed momentum for the trail to try and tackle Nixon himself (something the Democrats wanted all along).
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holy freaking revisionism Batman
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Eventually they found the actual guy who installed the recording hardware which through rigorous questioning revealed that they recorded everything to have perfect notes on anything they needed to recollect. They asked him questions for four hours. Democrat Senators were overjoyed. They later had him return to televise his testimony for political clout. All testimonies were broadcast and received massive ratings. Nixon then released the tapes without being forced and redacted explicates. Regardless people were out for blood and wanted him impeached for recording things in the oval office (apparently they thought this was a crime?). New Dealer Republicans immediately turned on him. The Media, unable to find anything incriminating then began campaigns of character assassination woke af on what he said in the tapes. At this point Dean resumed his televised assault on the President with accusations of bribery because he paid for legal fees and obstruction.
They then started the impeachment process without any actual evidence of wrongdoing. A little over a week later Nixon released one more tape which consisted of one of Nixon’s aids telling him that Watergate was actually done by his own aids and that they should try and cover it up before the elections which Nixon agreed to tell the CIA to tell the FBI to stay out of it. Nixon’s aids then begged him for presidential pardons but instead he resigned. All things considered everybody in Watergate served very minor sentences and most were out within a year despite receiving up to 40 years in prison.
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>Hippies were an extension of the failed civil rights movement
The CRM worked about as well as you’d expect. You can’t force someone to invite a black guy over to dinner and give him a hug, all you can do is remove whatever legal barriers are imposed on him. -
>Hippies were an extension of the failed civil rights movement coupled with young people realizing that government spending isn’t intrinsically linked to spiritual enlightenment.
It’s impressive to think that in 2021 the Democrat Party still, still believes government spending brings enlightenment and can’t let this failed idea go.
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>Imagine the hatred that the left has for Trump today, except that both Trump and modern libs are hedonist consoomers, while Nixon and the hippies were polar opposites in a culture war even more extreme that today’s
It’s hard to imagine the massive gulf in understanding between boomers and their parents. It’s hard to imagine if you are someone born in the Clinton years and your parents already did drugs, listened to loud rock music, had tons of premarital sex, and did not actively attend church.
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Tricky Dick would be glad to see you scrotebrains retconning his image this hard
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the modern culture war feels so…fake? under Bush was the last time when it kind of somewhat felt legit.
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His only crime was getting caught.
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LBJ and Nixon ultimately faltered for lack of real friends and being unable to relate to other human beings on a personal level. There was no one to defend them when shit hit the fan.
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