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>one of the most iconic figures in Russian history
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Most nations have something like this.
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Hitler wasn’t German, Napoleon wasn’t French. Every countries most iconic leader was from somewhere else.
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Most countries don’t have that, those are just exceptions
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napoleon was french
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Hitler and Napoleon and Genghis Khan were also pivotal and iconic in Russian history
History is not only made by your countrymen -
>utterly crushed Georgia in 1921
He stopped being Georgian a long time before that. He wasn’t a Russian, he wasn’t a Georgian anymore, he was one of the first true Soviet men.-
1. What did Stalin have to do with the conquest of the Caucuses? As far as I knew his only real military action was at Tsaritsyn
2. There is nothing inherently anti-Georgian about wanting to rule over Georgia, or integrate Georgia into your new empire -
His Georgian remained more fluent than his Russian for all his life, his favorite drink was Georgian wine and his second in command was another Georgian.
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His number 2 was probably Molotov or Kaganovich
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>His Georgian remained more fluent than his Russian
Source?
>His second in command
He drove Ordzhonikidze to suicide
Beria wasn’t even Georgian, he was Mingrelian, which was a massive difference in the Caucasian context even though Beria spoke Georgian and again
Any time Beria tried to use their commonish origins to try and coax him, Stalin would get livid
This is also ignoring the fact that Beria was very much on Stalin’s sights during the last months of his life
Stalin preferring a certain kind of wine (very privately) doesn’t mean that he didn’t try to suppress his georgianess outwardsHis number 2 changed every other morning
Kirov was number 2 until he got shot
After Kirov it was Kaganovich
After the terror dropped Kaganovich to a broken shell of a man, it was Molotov
After Molotov signed that pipeline without asking it was Beria
After ww2 it shifted between Beria, Bulganin, Mikoyan, Molotov and very occasionally Kaganovich
Stalin knew not to let one stay in place for too long
One could even argue for Khrushchev though Stalin always thought he was a moron-
>Beria wasn’t even Georgian, he was Mingrelian
You sound like a coping flat-nosed Russian Negroid. Megrels are Georgian, just very arrogant and culturally unique.-
>Georgian, just very arrogant and culturally unique.
ukranians are russians-
sis Mingrelian actually consider themselves Georgians and would be pissed if you told them the opposite.
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>Beria wasnt even Georgian, he was Mingrelian
What are gou even doing on this board.
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He stopped writing in Georgian in his mid/late 20s. I wish I knew what regime he did to learn Russian as I am trying my best but struggling. I guess total immersion was easier in the early 20th century as everyone was outside talking.
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>isn’t even Russian
>claimed to be Russian anyway-
He literally never ever claimed to be Russian
Ethnicity was immutable in Russia and the USSR, a German was always a German and a Pole was always a Pole no matter what language he speaks or religion he follows.-
>He literally never ever claimed to be Russian
Popular myths say that he did.
Obviously, if we are being serious, then>utterly crushed Georgia in 1921
He stopped being Georgian a long time before that. He wasn’t a Russian, he wasn’t a Georgian anymore, he was one of the first true Soviet men.is correct.
>Ethnicity was immutable in Russia and the USSR, a German was always a German and a Pole was always a Pole no matter what language he speaks or religion he follows.
It wasn’t. Actual (non-CIA) Soviet joke: "father is a Chukcha, mother is Mordvin, child is Russian".-
>Mordvin
*Moldavian.-
He was talking about a finno-ugric tribe called mordva. I’ve seen a girl from there in my university in Russia.
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If you look like a duck and quack like a duck…
He was a 100% Russified individual.-
He spoke Russian with a noticeable accent.
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he also didn’t drink vodka, he preferred Georgian wines
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Yes but he refused to speak Georgian in public or in meetings
When Beria tried to speak Georgian to him to coax him, Stalin got furious
Stalin did everything in his power to play down his Georgian origins-
The only evidence we have of him speaking Georgian in a soviet political context is his shouting match with Ordzhonikidze that preceded the Sergo’s suicide where he flung some Georgian swears
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Why did he try to hide his heritage?
Are Russians racists towards Georgians?-
Nowadays? Yes, they hate each other namely because one is occupying the other
Back then?
Eh
Stalin was trying to larp as the great father of the USSR
He did it for the same reason he refused the Von Paulus Yakov exchange
"All the soldiers are my sons, why should I exchange the germ for Yakov in particular"
Same logic-
>Nowadays? Yes, they hate each other namely because one is occupying the other
Where are you getting this from. Last time there has been genuine hatred was the war of 2008. Also there is always influx of Russian women so it’s hard to hate people you want to fuck.
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>look and quack and blahblahblah
you dont know what russians are.-
They are nervous, twitchy people with whiny voices.
And a recidivist criminal scum like Dzugashvili was the perfect man to lead them.
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>Napoleon, one of the most iconic figures in French history
>isn’t even French>Hitler, one of the most iconic figures in German history
>isn’t even GermanThis happens surprisingly often.
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>Charlemagne
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Hitler is Germanic tho
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Hitler wasn’t functionally Austrian in any real sense, he hated the idea of "Austria" pre war as an imperial project sharing power with a different nationality (in the Hungarians), he served in the German army over the Austrian one in the first world war, and his actions as leader clearly show that he didn’t believe "the Austrian nation" to even be a thing.
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>>N-NAPOLEON ISN’T FRENCH!!!!!
Why do Italoids cope like this? -
Why does it keep happening?
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The fun is, he looks extremely Russian, at least to me.
Definitely leaning on the white side and not that exotic.
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iirc in the 90’s some people speculated he might bastard son of Nikolay Przhevalsky (pic) russian geographer of polish origin
they’re bit of akin looking
but Kaganovich for example is a same kind of appearance too Le Mustache Guy -
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Koba is an awesome name, what wouldn’t I give to be called like that
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He looks pretty caucasian to me.
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Correct, leaders of the USSR were gnomish
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>>one of the most iconic figures in French history
>>isn’t even French -
>one of the most iconic figures in Spanish history
>isn’t even Spanish -
>one of the most iconic figures in Egyptian history
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>most decorated officer in Portuguese history
>isn’t even European -
I mean, by the same token I don’t think a single English monarch since 1066 has had a single drop of English blood in them
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Georgians rioted when Khrushchev denounced Stalin.
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It was more complicated than that, but – yes. Tbilisi was the first capitol that tanks were sent to suppress uprising in 1956.
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Many such cases!
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>one of the most iconic figures in Soviet history
>is SovietWhy are Americans such scrotebrains
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>Greatest British monarch
>Isn’t even British-
nobody considers him the ‘greatest’, he’s just well known.
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>one of the most iconic figures in human history
>isn’t even human
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