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    • #139127
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      Nostalgia for the 1950s is a peculiar phenomenon that affects both sides of the political aisle. The right has nostalgia for the strong family values, anti-communist ideologies and smaller, less intrusive government of that time. The left has nostalgia for the high tax rates and strong organized labor presence of the ’50s. Yet you would not find many Americans in the 21st century who would want to go back to the Eisenhower years if they had a choice. After all, living standards were much lower than today and a lot of the basic freedoms and amenities we enjoy today did not exist.

      Legal segregation was still in full force in the Southern US and many Northern states had de-facto segregation. Blacks had poverty rates upward of 80% in the ’50s and there was not much opportunity for a black person to have a career beyond unskilled labor.

      For women, there were few career opportunities beyond "typical" female ones such as nursing or teaching. About 1/3rd of married white women worked in the ’50s, and for black and Latinx women the rate was considerably higher than that. Being a female was no picnic. Household chores were more time-consuming and tedious than today, without dishwashers, without clothes dryers, and many other amenities now taken for granted. Birth control methods were unreliable and abortion illegal in many places; women who got pregnant out of wedlock were socially shamed. Sexual harrassment in the workplace was common and brushed off as a joke, as was wife-beating. There were no laws against marital rape in most places.

    • #139128
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      There were no Miranda rights yet in the ’50s and police procedures were primitive and brutish by modern standards. Third degree interrogation of suspects was a common practice and police departments, especially in big cities were often phenomenally corrupt. The appeals process for those convicted of a crime was limited and a death sentence generally meant speedy execution within a year; there was relatively little concern that the justice system might have gotten the wrong person.

      The working world was difficult and dangerous by modern standards. The rate of workplace injuries and deaths in the early 1970s, when the OSHA was created, were about 4x what they are in 2021 and it is safe to assume the rate in the ’50s was much higher than that. Air and water pollution were serious problems and many cities were blanketed by a layer of smog.

      Medical science was primitive by modern standards; many illnesses and conditions that can be treated relatively easily now were fatal in the ’50s. Cancer and childhood diseases claimed many lives. Childbirth also killed many more women than it does today. People born with mental or physical abnormalities were confined to state mental institutions; having such a child around was shameful for most families and they would seek to cover it up.

      • #139138
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        People forget about how much medicine has changed. Infectious diseases like mumps, measles, whooping cough, polio (early in the decade), scarlet fever, etc were still around. IIRC something like 200 kids died every year from measles. The prognosis for cancer was pretty grim, since chemotherapy had only just been discovered. We didn’t know much at all when it came to the brain and mental health.

        • #139139
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          >look at an online collection of old death certificates from the 50s-60s
          >man it was grim–children dropping of leukemia, mentally scrotebrained children still being described as "mongoloids" on death certificates, women dying from childbirth, people getting killed horribly in car accidents that you’d walk away from now, untreatable cancer, rheumatic heart fever, house fires seemed to be a lot more common back then, etc

          • #139158
            Anonymous
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            The advertisements and media from that time loved to push futurism and the jet/space age yet from a 21st century POV that time looks like the Middle Ages.

            • #139164
              Anonymous
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              I have a couple of old Popular Mechanics issues from the 40s-50s and one thing you have to admire is the optimism of that era and the fact that the articles weren’t full of virtue signalling garbage like "Newly discovered: Charles Lindbergh was 1/76th black." or "Feminism in aeronautics."

          • #139165
            Anonymous
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            there were a lot of things that could kill women in birth and/or the baby in those days like eclampsia, premature labor, and baby being born feet-first. my grandmother and great aunt both lost a baby due to stuff like this.

        • #139193
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          no one cares because no one here had to live around this shit.

          whenever i hear the scrotebrains on this website wax poetic for the good ol days of pre-60s America/Europe I think about coworker Ruth. Ruth is in her 70s, and she’s completely deaf in one ear because she got a ear infection as a toddler and because she lived in some barbaric flyover shithole the infection was allowed to spread until she lost use of the entire ear as well as some motor functions. Haha, but at least the scrotes and gays knew their place and censorship didn’t ex- oh wait censorship and prudishness was everywhere back then nevermind

    • #139129
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      Life for the average American in 1955 was a lot better than it had been in 1905 or 1925, but it was also much worse than just 20 years later, to say nothing of this century–much is made about the economic woes of the ’70s yet poverty rates in the ’50s were a good 18% higher. So in the end, the ’50s are romanticized far more than is necessary. We might look back fondly on the era of strong unions and relatively lower income inequality but the worse overall quality of life and widespread discrimination against women, homosexuals, and persons of color can be hard to overlook.

      • #139155
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        Blacks and women were objectively better off and more secure in every way and scrotes should be exterminated before they cause more epidemics.

    • #139130
      Anonymous
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      >Sexual harrassment in the workplace was common

      Feeling up female underlings and coworkers at the office or factory floor with no consequences must have been woke af, we should totally bring that back.

      • #139135
        Anonymous
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        Until her alcoholic PTSD-addled WWII/Korea vet husband or boyfriend finds out and beats the shit out of you.

        • #139137
          Anonymous
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          >implying I’m not also a deranged vet that plans on going out in a murder-suicide

      • #139152
        Anonymous
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        >smaller, less intrusive government of that time
        The government was a lot more powerful back then. They regulated the economy similar to the way Japan or western Europe did. They directly provided jobs to GI’s after WW2 through the GI Bill and also subsidizing heavy industry.

        >implying I’m not also a deranged vet that plans on going out in a murder-suicide

        Until her alcoholic PTSD-addled WWII/Korea vet husband or boyfriend finds out and beats the shit out of you.

        Guys you should watch Mad Men

        • #139153
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          >The government was a lot more powerful back then. They regulated the economy similar to the way Japan or western Europe did.

          Back then there were a lot less regulations on everything, not as many letter agencies, you could buy a gun in a mail order catalog, etc. So you tell me.

          • #139157
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            no but what there were like the FBI got away with tons of bullshit because there was almost no scrutiny of them back then and that generation naively trusted authority. nowadays there’s a new scandal at the letter agencies every month when something gets leaked to the Washington Post.

      • #139159
        Anonymous
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        Tell me without telling me that you’re not a woman and have never tried to sympathize with women’s point of view.

        • #139160
          Anonymous
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          Remember. It’s only rape if you’re an ugly gremlin as opposed to a 6’2" alpha Chad.

          • #139162
            Anonymous
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            Nah, it’s rape if the other person doesn’t consent. That includes if it’s a woman forcing herself on a man- I agree that’s too frequently ignored or downplayed.

        • #139176
          Anonymous
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          > have never tried to sympathize with women’s point of view.
          stop humanizing sex objects anon, its not healthy

          • #139179
            Anonymous
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            Careful, you might cut yourself on that edge.

          • #139180
            Anonymous
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            spoken like a true weapons grade virgin,

        • #139201
          Anonymous
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          Go back to r*ddit you supreme scrote

    • #139131
      Anonymous
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      Ironically, many people in Eastern Europe long for the communist era for the same reasons.
      Life was objectively worse in many ways when compared to today, but at least gypsies were kept on a leash, people were happy with the little they had and entire families weren’t spread throughout Europe because of better job opportunities.

      • #139132
        Anonymous
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        it’s boomer who miss 70s and 80s when they were young and had functional dick. literally nobody in EE wants to go back to 50s.

        • #139133
          Anonymous
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          Maybe not the 50s, but I’ve seen people "nostalgic" for the latter years of communism.

      • #139142
        Anonymous
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        Reminds me of that post someone made about life in East Germany

        After literally 25% of its population left for the west, it got manageable. Problem is that their leadership tried to make the entire industry focused around the heavy industry, right after the war, which destroyed any sort of services, so for almost a decade life was hard. After that, it got somewhat stable, but it was boring.

        Sure, you’ve had work, you (usually) had enough to eat, and some sort of entertainment was provided to you. But nothing more than that. Your salary could provide you basic food items, but not much more than that. You were able to get a car, but you’ll wait anywhere between one and up to ten years to get one, and you had no choice when getting it – they had an orange one, so you got an orange one. Entertainment had to go through a bunch of party controlled comitees to make sure it’s "appropriate" (meaning it was in line with their worldview).
        Some winters could get worse. At times, heat would go out, as well as electricity. More often than not shops were devoid of basic items and you had to sign up on a waitlist to get them. And of course, after some time Stasi was everywhere, so you would get more and more paranoid because they would torture anyone they believed to be subversive.
        I wouldn’t say it was poverty. It was the lowest, most basic, least luxurious life you could imagine. Enough to keep you at bay and stop from rebelling (at lest in most cases), but nothing else. Of course, it was a bit better if you were in the party, but only the highest echelons could afford an actual luxury – and sometimes, a bunch of oranges was luxurious. The only people actually longing for DDR are post-communist parties and old fucks that refuse to die.

        • #139144
          Anonymous
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          you forgot where you wanted to date a girl but thanks to FKK shit she already knew what you had and was like "Nein. Walter’s is bigger."

    • #139134
      Anonymous
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      >people were poor
      >some were perverts and committed crimes, no other society on earth has this problem
      >they thought children shouldn’t grow up without a father
      >boomer women hadn’t gone to college on their daddy’s GI bill yet
      >the s*uth
      That was all that was wrong with the 50s? Coming out of the great depression and the world war it doesn’t seem so bad.

      • #139136
        Anonymous
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        I would think dying of now easily preventable diseases and cars that would horribly mutilate you in a low speed accident might be a thing too.

    • #139140
      Anonymous
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      Most 50s nostalgia was peddled by boomers who were kids then and only had to worry about what they were getting for Christmas.

    • #139141
      Anonymous
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      the left does not have nostalgia at all for the 50s. There was no exciting ethnic cuisine and they didn’t believe in marriage equality. they were literally nazis.

      • #139143
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        >the left does not have nostalgia at all for the 50s.
        If you’re a working union man, there’s a lot to be nostalgic for because unions were actually strong back then. But then those are actually blue collar people, not the kind of people you’re talking about.

        • #139146
          Anonymous
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          too bad unions back then were mostly controlled by organized crime

          • #139147
            Anonymous
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            also they didn’t believe in marriage equality

          • #139148
            Anonymous
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            And yet, still in a better situation than they are now. At least unions could still get shit done.

            • #139149
              Anonymous
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              nah not really. after they won the initial fight for improved wages+pensions during the New Deal era they basically sat on their hands and did nothing for the next 30 years until manufacturing jobs declined in the 70s onward. unions also did fuck-all about workplace safety which continued to be pretty bad. and even then only blue chip companies like GM or General Electric had unionized workforces; most smaller employers were not unionized and job security, wages, and benefits were not as stable.

    • #139145
      Anonymous
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      All of that’s good you freaking scrote

    • #139150
      Anonymous
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      So many WWII and Korea vets with PTSD. There were no real mental help services back then and the culture of the time would have encouraged machismo and "sucking it up" rather than seeking help. All too many men became alcoholics or abused their family.

    • #139151
      Anonymous
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      >repressed dictatorship
      >lots of people lost family member in civil war or they were killed for wrongthink
      >poor as dirt
      >work in mine where you’ll die of disease from inhaling mine dust by 50
      >have like 8 kids because condoms make the Virgin Mary cry
      nah fuck living in Spain in the 50s

    • #139154
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      >Latinx
      freaking gringo cunt I’LL freaking HANG YOU FROM A TREE IF YOU SAY THAT SHIT SOUTH OF YOUR BORDER

      • #139156
        Anonymous
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        don’t give yourself a heart attack chancho

        • #139197
          Anonymous
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          You will never have an ethnostate.

      • #139161
        Anonymous
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        What would you in Spanish for a non-binary person, -e?

        • #139182
          Anonymous
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          we would say joto or maricon

    • #139163
      Anonymous
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      For me it’s the 90s

    • #139169
      Anonymous
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      yes mortality from childbirth has fallen a lot, though still quite high for black, Latinx, and Native American women

      • #139183
        Anonymous
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        because most of them are morbidly obese, diabetic, hypertensive, drug users etc

        • #139184
          Anonymous
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          kek. In the 50s era death certificates I looked through, there were a few blacks among them and it seemed even back then that heart disease at early ages was common. it also seemed that, at least from the certificates I saw, it was more common for black women to work outside the home while white women were much of the time just listed as "Occupation: Housewife"

          • #139185
            Anonymous
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            >black women work to earn their keep
            >white women are lazy and sit at home watching bad daytime TV
            You don’t say.

          • #139187
            Anonymous
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            Racial disparities in employment have almost always just been class disparities.
            Black women were poorer so they had to work. White women were more wealthy and didn’t have to.

    • #139171
      Anonymous
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      Hollywood still censored under the Hayes Code and then the Comics Code Authority struck comic books.

    • #139172
      Anonymous
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      >and a lot of the basic freedoms and amenities we enjoy today did not exist.
      If you’re not black or gay you had more civil liberties then than you do now.

    • #139173
      Anonymous
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      but even today a disproportionate amount of women are in those "traditional" female jobs like nursing

      • #139174
        Anonymous
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        In the 1950s they didn’t even have many options outside of those. Women had worked in factories during the war so they had a little experience with that stuff, but after the war they just did stuff like operating telephones if they worked at all. Some were getting an education but college was still male dominated.

      • #139191
        Anonymous
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        Nursing is traditionally a male job. It was only until the 19th century that it was associated with women.

    • #139175
      Anonymous
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      https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192703265/stella-mae-meyers

      Anyway, a random one from the findagrave archives.

      >head crushed when the car had a tire blowout and overturned

      Lovely. This is the stuff that used to happen in the 50s because cars had zero safety features and tires were pretty much crap by modern standards. Since it was in Arizona perhaps the tire overheated due to the extreme summer temperatures there.

    • #139177
      Anonymous
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      The 50s would be perfect if not for the people that lived in them.

    • #139181
      Anonymous
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      >Latinx

      Entire post discarded. Into the trash you go.

    • #139186
      Anonymous
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      >Latinx
      didn’t read the rest lol you stupid freaking gringo

      • #139189
        Anonymous
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        As much as I hate the term latinx. It was created by Latinos.

        • #139190
          Anonymous
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          >created by Latinos
          proof?
          Also, as if Yankees mutts have any connection to Latin America. That term could have only been born in the US.

          • #139194
            Anonymous
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            Not everyone who lives in the US or has US citizenship is a freaking Yankee. The worthless shithead spics who leave your shithole countries to infest mine are NOT Yankees.
            Don’t use that term scrote.
            Should be used exclusively for old-stock Anglos from the Northeast and Midwest.

            • #139199
              Anonymous
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              Stings, doesn’t it?

        • #139205
          Anonymous
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          No it wasn’t, scrote. It was invented by white leftists pretending to be ethnic minorities. Now go back bunkerchud.

    • #139188
      Anonymous
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      >Birth control methods were unreliable and abortion illegal in many places

      Ma’shallah. The recently late president of Tanzania warned Tanzania to not follow the path of Europe in this regard.

      If you want women to be treated with more dignity, do you think it’s a good idea to provide devices which treat their bodies as a de facto masturbation device?

      Abortion is the icing on the cake, a man who doesn’t respect women would love a society with easy access to contraception and contraception.

      • #139203
        Anonymous
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        >wanting to have 6-8 kids
        Shig.

        Also…

        >taking advice from Africans on proper/sustainable family planning

        • #139204
          Anonymous
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          It’s a cultural thing. Africans (not AAs) and beaners are big on the idea that if you can’t knock a girl up you’re not a real man.

    • #139192
      Anonymous
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      >it’s another "the 50s were a nightmarish hellscape because people weren’t socially progressive" thread

    • #139195
      Anonymous
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      I would go back to the 1950s in a heartbeat, as long as I didn’t get drafted to fight in the Korean War.

    • #139196
      Anonymous
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      Ah, the 50s.

      • #139202
        Anonymous
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        Do you fault William Levitt for banning blacks from Levittown since he knew the white residents would have a psychotic chimpout like this?

    • #139198
      Anonymous
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      These ’50s advertising pics will become icons to the future degenerated descendants of White Americans, who will regard them as depictions of the heaven that awaits them in the afterlife if they just believe the right beliefs and do what their cult leaders tell them to do.

    • #139200
      Anonymous
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      So you’re saying that no uppity scrotes would be interfering in our lives, girlbossism with western characteristics wouldn’t influence relationships between sexes, jobs for tradies would be more widespread, reducing the need for higher education and the police would uphold the order instead of eating donuts?
      Jesus what a hellhole, I don’t know how could we live like that.

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