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No comment required. This is amazing progress.
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Is this some sort of furry sex simulator?
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No, this is Vulkan on Haiku.
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Woke af Vulkan furry sex simulator
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https://i.4cdn.org/g/1632857916051.webm
Vulkan is prob the most woke af GPU API.
it isn’t strictly for gaming or graphics in particular. It’s just a GPU API that lets you gear it towards anything you want to do with a GPU.OpenCL is confirmed dead and merging into Vulkan+Spirv
https://www.eteknix.com/khronos-merge-opencl-vulkan-one-api/
Intel and many other vendors are porting over their OpenCL shit over to SPIRV(for vulkan)
https://github.com/KhronosGroup/SPIRV-Registry/tree/main/extensions/INTELVulkan introducing a lot of GPGPU paradigms and operations
https://www.khronos.org/blog/vulkan-subgroup-tutorialIt supports video decoding
https://www.khronos.org/blog/an-introduction-to-vulkan-videoVulkan FFT is even faster than OpenCL or Cuda alternatives
https://github.com/DTolm/VkFFTAnd this is all on top of the bleeding edge shit it gets like ray tracing and access to the tensor core
https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan/specs/1.2-extensions/man/html/VK_NV_cooperative_matrix.htmlBest of all is that it is a brainlet filter that requires some amount of competency of GPU architecture like synchronization or how the only statefulness in the entire API is stuff like image layouts or within a command buffer.
Name a more woke af API (you cant)
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>Vulkan is prob the most woke af GPU API.
Vulkan don’t even has proper vsync.-
You know this how?
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presentation feedback isn’t the same thing as vsync
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Let me guess, you didn’t even bother reading all the posts did you.
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>This device extension allows an application that uses the VK_KHR_swapchain extension to obtain information about the presentation engine’s display, to obtain timing information about each present, and to schedule a present to happen no earlier than a desired time. An application can use this to minimize various visual anomalies (e.g. stuttering).
Traditional game and real-time animation applications need to correctly position their geometry for when the presentable image will be presented to the user. To accomplish this, applications need various timing information about the presentation engine’s display. They need to know when presentable images were actually presented, and when they could have been presented. Applications also need to tell the presentation engine to display an image no sooner than a given time. This allows the application to avoid stuttering, so the animation looks smooth to the user.
This extension treats variable-refresh-rate (VRR) displays as if they are fixed-refresh-rate (FRR) displays.
It is required for proper stutterles vsync.
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>It is required for proper stutterles vsync.
I don’t see how. If you’re stuttering either your rendering code is shit, your pushing your hw too much, your hw is too weak, or some combination thereof.-
>I don’t see how.
of course you don’t, you are ignorant.-
What can you possibly do with swap timing information other than dynamically reducing rendering quality? Not that you need that, you can just not overload the GPU to begin with.
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Look up Swap Interval.
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4ms-14ms-6ms-14ms-5ms- and so on.
8ms-8ms-8ms-8ms and so on.Which one is smoother?
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Obviously the latter, but why do you need a Vulkan extension for this when plenty of frame profilers exist already?
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>why do you need a basic functionally in a word class video api.
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almost no apis have built in frame profiles lol dude you have to get a third party one, come on now, stop being scared of vulkan
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Vulkan is a graphics and compute API. I agree that timing information is useful for presenting videos, since videos often don’t have a frame rate that matches the display refresh rate, but saying this is necessary for vsync is misleading. Vsync is defined as just waiting until vblank to put something on the screen. Vulkan already has present modes (fifo, mailbox) to accomplish this.
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Idk anon, Vulkan works great on my machine.
>why do you need a basic functionally in a word class video api.
welp m8.That’s not… really basic functionality. We already proved Vulkan does vsync as well as freesync just fine. It appears whatever game you are using, or application, is not using vsync with Vulkan because it was not programmed in correctly. I’m sorry anon.
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>We already proved Vulkan does vsync as well
You haven’t.-
Yes we did, you just want a built-in vsync frame profiler extension and no one cares about that.
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just get a third party frame profiler
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The white man doesn’t want vsync
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all you need is async shader compiling and freesync. will beat any dx11 games in terms of smoothness by a mile.
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God you’re so freaking stupid, it doesn’t matters if you have shaders that are being compiled at lighting speed if the FRAMES THEMSELVES are presented at inconsistent intervals.
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yes it does you idiot
are you talking about shitty games that don’t know how to program vsync with vulkan?https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan/specs/1.2-extensions/man/html/VkPresentModeKHR.html
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Let me guess once again
Let me guess, you didn’t even bother reading all the posts did you.
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>2021
>vsyncanon, the open source drivers built into the kernel have freesync out of the box
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what is freesync actually? syncs to 60fps and 30hz via 4k hdmi or what?
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modern monitors have a feature called adaptive sync that lets them actually change their refresh rate on the fly. Freesync is a standard that uses the adaptive sync functionality to make the monitor’s refresh rate line up with the frame rate of whatever you’re outputting.
basically It Just Werks and you never have to deal with screen-tearing due to mismatched framerate/refreshrate OR input lag or massive framerate drops due to vsync.
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looks like LULZ is here and played one shitty game that over-synchronizes and thinks it’s an inherit vulkan thing and not brainlet programming
practically, vulkan solves the primary issue that vsync solves (tearing) but now you’re talking about super tight timing stuff that mean nothing to humans
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>but now you’re talking about super tight timing stuff that mean nothing to humans
>Vulkan is prob the most woke af GPU API.
Vulkan don’t even has proper vsync.First freaking post
>Vulkan don’t even has proper vsync.
>proper.
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Thanks but I am sticking with OpenGL
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half assed hobby API only shilled by lintards
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It’s a "hobby API" maybe for microshills. Zhangs seem to be using it just fine.
https://github.com/Tencent/ncnn
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OpenMP is also pretty woke af but it’s not solely a GPGPU API, more so a parrakelisation + accelerator API
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Just imagine, none of this would have happened without AMDs Mantle.
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dx12 could never
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>async shader compiling
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Vulkan on Haiku OS? I didn’t even know Haiku supported high performance 3D rendering!
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Why do you want a frame profiler so bad? Just stop using whatever crappy application or game that didn’t implement vsync correctly with Vulkan. I don’t know what you’re using but it can’t be that important. If it’s a game, play something that has vsync and works with Vulkan. Let go of your programs that didn’t implement Vulkan vsync, accept it, move on to ones that did.
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or we can fix it.
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No, just use the ones that work. Don’t bother fixing the ones that didn’t.
I bet you’re in this Github thread: https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Docs/issues/370
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Looks like our API’s superiority has led to some controversy.
OpenGL trannies and DirectX pajeets just can’t stop getting filtered! Love to see it. -
directx and opengl fans absolutely fuming and seething
vulkan destroys everything else
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>shilling DX12
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>everyone switching to vulkan
>lots of tech moving over to vulkan
>lots of compute apis moving to vulkan
>meanwhile, apple is left in the dust with AMD care-packages and with Metal, forced to try and make their own GPUsApple is really having it hard these days when it comes to GPUs. They really
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not really.
people caved into their meme and now they have moltenVK-
that isnt really caving in that’s dragging the group scrotebrain behind because he pays for everyone’s lunch
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best api to make wintards mad
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Vulkan? You mean the API that runs best on Windows on AMD and Nvidia cards?
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Wtf, I tried Haiku yesterday and GLTeapot simply didn’t work and recused to shutdown.
haiku-os.org/
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>no comment required
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any good books on compute shaders? I find it very hard to think in terms of gpus for example implementing a falling sand simulation efficiently on the gpu has been a massive pain in the ass.
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seconding this. Bonus if ray tracing related
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dont die
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>basic UI using IMGUI
incredible, OP, next you’ll tell us you’ve double-clicked a folder too
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