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Most of our societal problems stem from the nuclear family.
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That’s a funny way of spelling garden gnomes.
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Fpbp.
Ignoring Immigration, black crime, gang violence, corporate-government conglomerates, 3rd wave feminist scrotebraination, and the all powerful central banking cartels the nuclear families critical flaw was kicking the kids out at 18 instead of keeping them at home to expand the family estate..
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Idiotic statement. What you’re trying to assert is that the view of the nuclear family as the base atom of society’s structure causes social problems, and even them you’re wrong.
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>What you’re trying to assert is that the view of the nuclear family as the base atom of society’s structure causes social problems
Yes-
What are the primary societal problems we face?
Abortion? Opioid crisis? Divorce? Obesity?-
By nature, the nuclear family will only have at the most two adults in the family. In most cases, both parents are working full time, and in other cases there will only be one parent, who has to work more than full time. In a two parent household abuse can become commonplace, which will relfect on the child. The only way out of this abuse is divorce.
Because of these factors, children will experience a lack of socialization which will impact their mental and emotional development. A substitute for this can be daycare, but this is not economical viable for many, and even then is not a good alternative. This early lack of socialization will lead to being unable to make friendships later on, and make finding a partner much harder. This of course leads to incels, drug abuse, depression, anxiety, other mental illnesses, suicide, and even crime.
When children grow up. The parents will be alone, and eventually be forced into nursing homes when they are unable to care for themselves. Your last years of your live will be filled with loneliness and misery as you will never or rarely see family.
>Abortion?
Not a problem in itself.
>Obesity?
More a results of suburbs.-
> wtf are nursemaids
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Most people aren’t able to afford them. Even then, their only incentive is a financial one, so they probably won’t provide better care than a family member.
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>Most people aren’t able to afford them.
Most people aren’t able to afford to live o the same block as their parents and siblings either.
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So whats the best alternative to the nuclear family?
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Extended or communal family
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Imagine thinking anything can replace your family from flesh and blood.
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2 adopted kids will develop the same psychological connection, all those memories aren’t going to disappear if you reveal the truth to them
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Much of your family is not flesh and blood related to you. People marry into families. Anyway, extended family is just an extension of the nuclear family
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>Abortion?
Nuclear families rely on strict economic planning on part of the parents. Extended families are more capable of sustaining the new mouth to feed. Even scrotes know this, which is why they are so apt to drop kids with their grandmas or aunts.
>Opioid crisis?
Not really mainly caused by nuclear families, but the trend towards alienation and suburban life certainly doesn’t help.
>Divorce?
Trying to prevent divorce directly would be moronic, you would just be begging for domestic violence. Extended families provide an avenue for someone without their own stream of income to exit.
>Obesity?
Suburbia and commuting.-
>but the trend towards alienation
The nuclear families cause alienation through lack of socialization.-
I agree, but that isn’t the source of the opioid crisis in my opinion. Still, extended families would help somewhat.
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What would you say is the source?
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Mainly over-prescription, it was pushed on people that really would not have benefited from it.
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People have been sued over this. Doctors benefited from over-prescribing opioids and got people addicted
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not OP but it makes perfect sense
In most countries outside the west the extended family, community and/or religion are more important, there is less reliance on the state. While there might be nothing terribly wrong with a welfare check, the people giving you those checks now have a vested interest in manipulating you, and they are not family you can go up to and talk to in their face if you have an issue with something or vice versa, they are bureaucrats and advertisers 100s of miles away, they are students of Ed Bernays and Saul Alinsky, they are lawyers and special interest groups, they are some trendy subculture brought to you by mass media. The nuclear family was the stepping stone towards being manipulated by these groups, it is like the minimal level of family before humans just stop reproducing, though I suppose single mothers or not having children at all and increasing immigration might be smaller.
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The nuclear family is the most stable thing there is when done right
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Only under very specific circumstances such as winning a world war, two entire continents are bombed to rubble and sitting on a resource rich country with a lot of people able to work. multi-generational families just work better overall since they’re more flexible.
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They actually come from the extended family, which incentivises corruption and subsidises failures.
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>which incentivises corruption and subsidises failures.
How?-
Nepotism
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Reminder that all propaganda against the nuclear family originates in bonked up perverts and single moms salty that their lifestyle arrangements aren’t valued by normal society.
>Nuh uh! muh extended family!
Saying that the extended family is an alternative to the nuclear family is like saying the molecule is an alternative to the atom. Extended families are made of nuclear families. You cannot have an extended family without first having nuclear families.No, your gender fluid polycule is not an extended family
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>You cannot have an extended family without first having nuclear families.
So why not promote the extended or communal family then?-
I don’t want potential sex offenders near my kids
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Mothers and fathers can sexually abuse their children too. Its also harder for abuse to take place if there are many family members caring for children.
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Historically the extended family was the norm in most places. Most people lived in villages where everyone was related. The nuclear family probably started being emphasized when people started moving to cities and suburbs away from family villages.
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>So why not promote the extended or communal family then?
What do you mean?
Grandparents and aunts and uncles don’t need to be "promoted", they already exist as the norm.
>communal family
I don’t know what this is, but it sounds like a cult.
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I think people raised in extended families tend to be less selfish and have better social skills than the average spoiled self-centered suburban nuke senpai only child. However extended senpaitachi can also encourage corruption, and clannish mentalities.
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>However extended senpaitachi can also encourage corruption, and clannish mentalities.
How so?-
Nepotism.
Why give X job to Y, if your cousin Billy Bob Whiteman is in need of a job.
Why would you favour a stranger as opposed to your family? Humans are naturally nepotistic, since they evolved in a tribal society, where everyone had to work together to survive and fuck with other people.
This breed favouritism to the people in your family and discrimination to outsiders.-
Humans are nepotistic but just by looking outside, corruption doesn’t require family ties.
Additionally, recipients of such family favors are in tremendous pressure to perform competently in order to not let the family down. And if the family admits that cousin Billy Bob is incompetent, he’s assigned to a dead end position where they can’t hurt/shame the family name or standing.
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>I think people raised in extended families tend to be less selfish and have better social skills than the average spoiled self-centered suburban nuke senpai only child.
Only kids are always spoiled little shits
t.oldest of four who had an only child as a gf once
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The suburbs are only built to uphold the nuclear family, and the nuclear family is only built to uphold capitalism.
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At the very least, we could benefit from more involvement of the extended family. Old people would have more to do than just sit in institutions, working age people would have free childcare, and little kids would have more teachers and babysitters. And everyone would have more personal support and people to talk to.
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Is responsible for societal division and dysfunction bc MUH FAMIRY -
>"The extended family is so woke af that millions of people raised in extended families chose to live as nuclear families in the suburbs as soon as they could afford it"
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>Can only afford it after economic boom after a war that left literally ever other economic power in ruins
>Not 70 years later, adult children are increasingly continuing to live with their parents as cost of living skyrockets while wages stagnate-
>millions choose living in a nuclear family when they can afford it
>as it becomes increasingly less affordable millions revert to living as extended families again
woke af trad living standard stagnation-
>The social and economic benefits of the extended family outweighs the social and economic benefits of the nuclear family and shields the family from the exploitation of the garden gnomes
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And yet millions still chose the nuclear family over living in a shitty, crowded tenement with other woke af trad antisemites – why?
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Can we stop with the false freaking dilemma of choosing between extended family and nuclear family please?
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>The social and economic benefits of a hole in your roof outweighs the social and economic benefits of not having a hole in your roof and shields the family from the exploitation of the garden gnomes.
scrotebrain
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Yes extended family is way better. Plus you get to have your first sexual experience with cousins.
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Yeah id say your right. Basically humans lived in big groups until recently. Humans fought together. Lived together. Worked together. And bonked together. The nuclear family feels so weird bc it’s so unnatural.
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Oh good another scrotebrain that doesn’t understand the idea of the nuclear family was never put forward as a substitute for the "extended family", and most of the "nuclear families" scrotebrains complain about are also actually "extended families".
I mean I presume you people complaining about how awful the nuclear family is have visited your grand parents right?
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>the idea of the nuclear family was never put forward as a substitute for the "extended family"
But it was -
Yeah but you don’t live on the same property as your grandparents, though we should
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>the idea of the nuclear family was never put forward as a substitute for the "extended family"
You know the idea of a four person household as the base unit of society is a 20th century idea right? Most people lived in the household with their grandparents instead of visiting them once on turkey day so Tyson could get a picture for an ad.
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In a way, but I would argue that nuclear family is just a part of the ground level problems. I believe that it is a piece in the trend towards social division.
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The nuclear family is just a benchmark for happiness within the individual. Once this situation is achieved by a working man, most of what he wants after that is due to greed and envy
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usury and money printer
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kys longhousescrote, massive extended families with intertwining obligations and the expectation of mutual aid enable scrotebrains and losers to mooch off the successful
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The nuclear family is artificial an unnatural. Extended family is the true natural state.
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