“Its not the third world people, its their government”

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    • #129923
      Anonymous
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      "Its not the third world people, its thier government"

      Is this really true? Whose fault is it when it comes to mass nation corruption?

    • #129924
      Anonymous
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      Everyone’s. Take America for example. Our corruption is insane because only a fraction of the population knows any morality beyond "don’t be a meanie" and "get dat money"

      • #129928
        Anonymous
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        America has low corruption compared to third world countries (this is not a compliment- I think librrals will eventually destroy America).

        • #129931
          Anonymous
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          Idk about that at this point. America’s imported and imitated so much third world

          • #129936
            Anonymous
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            I went to a city in America with a high third world population. Third world presence automatically increased crime. But on an individual basis, if you surrounded a third worlder with non-corrupt people, he abandoned corruption.

        • #129949
          Anonymous
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          >I think librrals will eventually destroy America).
          That literally makes no sense at all.

        • #129962
          Anonymous
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          >Legalize and institutionalize corruption to the point where politicians’ actions represent their donors’ views a hundred times more than their actual constituents
          >Never do anything to try and stop it, pretend like it’s actually good for democracy
          >Corruption drops to 0%
          Bravo

        • #129963
          Anonymous
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          That’s at least partially because we’ve legalized stuff the rest of the world defines as corruption.

          • #129968
            Anonymous
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            Asia has legalized prostitution. EU legalizes prostitution, drugs, homosexuality. Saudis ban everything yet do everything.

            • #129970
              Anonymous
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              >Saudis ban everything yet do everything
              How much of this is a divide between the people doing the banning and the people who don’t like the ban but don’t care enough to oppose it because they can just take a trip to Doha if they want to drink?

        • #129965
          Anonymous
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        • #129971
          Anonymous
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          lol, no it doesn’t, your politicians just got better at hiding it
          >"Yeah well you can’t *prove* that this company paid me $25 million for a book deal didn’t expect to see a return of $50 million or more on my ghost-written memoirs"

          • #129972
            Anonymous
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            American life has little to do with politicians. I am talking about society. It is a Christian society with much lower corruption when COMPARED to third world nations.

            • #129979
              Anonymous
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              >It is a Christian society
              lol

              >with much lower corruption when COMPARED to third world nations.
              Look at state or city politics and ya geta very different story.

        • #129981
          Anonymous
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          Liberals founded America

    • #129925
      Anonymous
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      No. I live in a third world country and even the little people do corruption like pay fixers to get drivers licenses, allow party bosses to buy their votes, and slip bribes to police all the time wheb theyre caught in traffic violations.

      If it permeates up top then it trickles to the bottom.

      • #129927
        Anonymous
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        In my country, corruption mostly happens in the positions of power (Biden, Clinton). Corruption is high in the ghetto as well. The middle class and lower class sees very little corruption.
        Can Christianity save it? In my country when Christianity attacked and combined with being plagued by hipocrisy, thats when evil started to grow. Liberals cause most of the problems in my country.

        • #129947
          Anonymous
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          >when Christianity attacked
          found the underage

          • #129950
            Anonymous
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            Sorry- my phone sucks. It is really hard to type. I meant to post "when Christianity WAS attacked".

      • #129983
        Anonymous
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        There is definitely a corruption mindset, unfortunately it becomes a sort of cultural value. When I worked for the gubmint we’d often catch certain immigrant community members in specific frauds and schemes. The point being they were always more effort, time and expense than what they were trying to dodge, it seemed the very idea of just complying with the rules and having the right paperwork, as opposed to breaking the rules and getting dodgy fake paperwork was something they objected to on moral grounds. The other thing was you could never get an explanation for why it had happened, they’d just look really angry and mutter, there was neither denial nor meaculpa which I suppose is right, they had no underlying feeling they’d done something wrong, just got caught.

    • #129926
      Anonymous
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      It varies. Sometimes, there are issues that do start with the people overall, but become disastrous because of the decisions of the government.

    • #129929
      Anonymous
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      It’s wrong, this is the process assuming you start with a decent to good country, with minor problems:
      >People pick whatever, enter a small amount of demagogues
      >still decent government ignores these demagogues because it has better things to focus on at the time
      >demagogues do mediocre work, (public yet) negligible nepotism because these people at least do their jobs

      >Next time, people pick whatever again, enter even more poopyholes than before due previous nepotism + enter barely competent people
      >the compromised government has to deal with: problems of the previous government + new issues + nascent corruption related issues from the demagogues and incompetent people
      >infrastructure and institutions start failing more than they get fixed here
      >people become dull the following years, experienced people who knew these poopyholes die or move or just can’t do anything

      >Dull people now actively pick more poopyholes, questionable names and more incompetent people
      >these scrotebrains implement scrotebrained shit that hurts everyone but themselves
      Point of no return
      >people became dumb

      >Dumb people pick more poopyholes, more questionable names, more incompetent people
      >"good" politicians are not the majority anymore and thus their legislation gets virtually archived every time
      >scrotebrains in power keep ruining things
      >people become stupid

      >Stupid people don’t care anymore, they pick literal garbage in human form, no one in the government can do anything that doesn’t benefits them first
      >these people do the bare minimum to just get votes
      >lots of corruption, basically no infrastructure and institutional improvement independently of how much money is spent
      >people become scrotebrained

      >scrotebrains are unable to comprehend what’s going on, so the slightly less scrotebrained take advantage of it
      >actors, news broadcasters, comedians, any public figure, any unprepared person can now get into the senate or parliament
      >the survivors flee the country, thus making things worse for those that stay

      • #129934
        Anonymous
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        I’m not talking about current events btw.
        This shit has happened in the third world country I live in, starting from the the 1900s or so. It’s very difficult to keep competent people in power if you don’t already start with educated, intelligent, altruistic individuals educated outside that have zero tolerance for people that shouldn’t be at charge of taking decisions for an entire country. The process is so gradual that people get used to whoever is at the Presidency and the Parliament at the time, then dumb shit gets tolerated and things keep getting worse over the generations.
        Corruption is always a problem because people is egotistical by nature (not saying that’s bad per se), but is usually minimal and won’t become rampant until people think it’s normal. The populace think it’s normal when they become stupid due the erosion of the educational institutions over the years. The corollary of this is to give utmost importance to education, but because the process to obtain results from that is so long and they’re not something tangible, this is usually why countries fail.

    • #129930
      Anonymous
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      It’s not the third world people, it’s their governments, which were installed by first-world people

      • #129932
        Anonymous
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        >their countries weren’t corrupt before
        Give me one example where this is actually true. Not fancy buildings or outfits, but an actual lack of corruption.

      • #129935
        Anonymous
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        But isn’t that an argument used by corrupt people? If you can get envious people to blame successful people, eventually you can motivate thieves.

    • #129933
      Anonymous
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      >Whose fault is it when it comes to mass nation corruption?
      9 times out of 10 it’s the elites
      people and their culture don’t often have a say on what their rich and powerful do with them

      • #129937
        Anonymous
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        But is that true? Look at Russia and Haiti, while it was still a bad situation, it was better with the elites in control.

        • #129938
          Anonymous
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          You say that like its true

          • #129939
            Anonymous
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            It is true? Are you from a Communist country?

        • #129944
          Anonymous
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          >was better with the elites in control
          the elites are always in control, anon
          every country has rich and powerful people
          the average citizen has as much say on their country as a rat has on what goes on in your house, you’d need a lot of rats to change something and it might not be for the best

          • #129951
            Anonymous
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            No, in my country, people were free until liberals started screeching. The elite whores like Rihanna have lost thier power now that ppl know they don’t represent them.

            The rich always rule over the poor but if you decrease poverty that reduces that.

    • #129940
      Anonymous
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      If it’s a death penalty for exposing a country’s leadership’s crimes then is your government beyond salvaging?

      Listen to these animals, it’s like they’re possessed by demons. /wsg/ won’t take the format.

      https://twitter.com/HorvatSrecko/status/1442476019726929924

      They’re advocating what they accuse Russia of doing to the whistle blowers.

    • #129941
      Anonymous
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      "Corruption" as reported by official stats is just a measure of how much the common man can be corrupt. In the developed world it’s called lobbying and it’s the system working as normal so nothing is wrong with it 🙂

    • #129942
      Anonymous
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      """"""""""""Corruption""""""""""""""" is merely a label Liberal Democracies slap unto political systems that do not adhere to their Liberal self-wank. Its a very meaningless term.

      • #129953
        Anonymous
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        then what do you call funds earmarked for particular projects disappearing into thin air

    • #129943
      Anonymous
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      Little bit of this, little bit of that

    • #129945
      Anonymous
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      very much untrue, but nuance is needed. In certain political practices that one sees in the developing world one sees us at a previous stage of development, or perhaps see ourselves practice such, but on a much more miniscule scale. After all, the difference of giving your wastrel cousin a job at your car dealership or giving him one at the department of finance is really one of scope.

    • #129946
      Anonymous
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      Sweden is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

    • #129948
      Anonymous
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      Way way way too complicated to sum it up in a neat slogan

    • #129952
      Jesus
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      who has power? who has weapons? government, secret services.

      • #129955
        Anonymous
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        When I visited third world countries, the cops were not corrupt. The locals were thieves. Nobody trusted anything. It was all corrupt except for the cops.

        • #129960
          Anonymous
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          >the cops were not corrupt
          you just didn’t get in trouble with em.
          It usually ain’t them getting you into trouble for no reason, but letting you off for "no reason".

    • #129954
      Anonymous
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      The West and international finance/corporate extraction interests who back their governments.
      I agree that immigrants should go back to their own countries and "make them better" – by violently overthrowing their capitalist CIA/French/Belgian puppet regimes.
      I hate the antichrist.

      • #129957
        Anonymous
        Guest

        That does not explain corruption on the lower levels. If you place a so called evil government, the people can counter it. But they choose not to. And thats also assuming every third world nation is corrupted which may or may not be true. The Saudis are wealthy but they are corrupt, ect

    • #129956
      Anonymous
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      The government is made up of people. People choose their government. People are capable of creating institutions that suppress corruption or they aren’t.

      • #129958
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Exactly. But does Christianity play a role? America is becoming corrupt as they abandon Christianity. Not talking about economy either.

        • #129959
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >But does Christianity play a role?
          No. The only good thing the Church has ever done for Europe was banning cousin marriage, and they only did that to break up existing aristocracies and seize their land.

          >America is becoming corrupt as they abandon Christianity
          America is becoming the third world as it imports the third world.

    • #129961
      Anonymous
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      3rd world countries are poor because people are low trust. They believe that being cunning and devious is the same as being intelligent. its the "you’re not wrong until you get caught" mentality.

      • #129966
        Anonymous
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        /thread
        see "Law of Gerson" in Brazil. Unironically one of the most cancerous attitudes you can have.

      • #129967
        Anonymous
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        But how much of that is circular? They see Christians killed and lose hope in mankind, thus being societally forced to be corrupt. Sort of like Lot’s wife in Sodom. They become corrupt by default. If surrounded by better, they would become better.

    • #129964
      Lugal-Ensi Gigachad of the G2a Master Race
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      3rd world DNA composes governments of 3rd world DNA leaders ie the DNA is the problem and so the government is also (one of many) problems.

      • #129969
        Anonymous
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        Is this true? Eithiopia used to be a world power, now its poor. China used to be poor, now its a superpower.

        • #129975
          Anonymous
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          China is, per capita, still poor

    • #129973
      Anonymous
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      every country has the government it deserves

    • #129974
      Anonymous
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      I’m born and raised Brazilian and I think that, at least over here, it’s both. We had a good shot with Pedro II, but then the Republic was imposed on us and it all went to shit. I don’t think we’ve ever had a decent leader ever since we got the vote.
      I think the cause for this is a combination of people being just really bad at voting, and very powerful parties filtering who gets to be a candidate (at least one with any chance). Nobody who has any real chance of changing anything will ever be allowed to lead the country, it’s the same thing as the USA

      • #129976
        Anonymous
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        I think Brazil is going to become really great under Bolsonaro. If the Commies and Satanists don’t mess it up.

        • #129980
          Anonymous
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          this looks like bolsonaro eating a box of trix with a keyboard

    • #129977
      Anonymous
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      Literally the governments
      You can see when the people are at fault when they let their government run wild like us in the us
      Most of the time in third world countries the western powers interfere empowering warlords and tyrants as we’ve seen in third world countries in the 50s until now

    • #129978
      Anonymous
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      blame national socialism, two words combined in abomination. it is human sacrifice systemized and it reduces aggregate prosperity.

    • #129982
      Anonymous
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      All these variables (state of country, people, government) are directly related to each other to various degrees so there’s no one cause, however the affect on the country as a whole is more heavily weighted by those at the top

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