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    • #86594
      Anonymous
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      Is this true?

    • #86595
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes contrary to what /poo/ and their gnomish right-wing think tanks will tell you, Racism actually happened, eminent domain is bullshit abuse by the government, and there is a conspiracy to cover up these things.

      • #86598
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yes, highschool history should focus more on what happened to a 200-strong shantytown in the 19th century than anything else that happened in the US

        • #86601
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yes we should just have history lessons about the Civil War for the entire semester on the 1800’s, like what’s happening, you scrote.

          • #86607
            Anonymous
            Guest

            The Civil War is probably more relevant than a shantytown getting eminent-domained – oh wait, BLACKS were involved, so now we have to pretend that we care (funny how Irish lived in Seneca Park too but no one gets up in arms about that, it’s only because there was a lot of BLACKS in that shantytown)

            • #86771
              Anonymous
              Guest

              But Noel Ignatiev says the Irish weren’t white. Therefore they made up part of the Black population.

        • #86605
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I remember hearing about how Tulsa was this thriving black wall street area before a racist army, complete with fighter pilots, destroyed it and killed 8000 blacks and how it’s basically Americas Babi Yar massacre and then it was really just some area where black merchants did ok for themselves and it was called black wall street as a tongue in check joke and there are only like 10 total confirmed deaths from the days long race riot that happened

          Why do people feel the need to exaggerate shit like this?

          • #86641
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Create rot.

            Sell rot prevention.

          • #86721
            Anonymous
            Guest

            $32 million in assets looted or destroyed is "doing ok for themselves"? That’s far better than any white middle class community at the time. There’s also a lot of similar incidents that happened across the US, all targeting majority black areas that were affluent.

            • #86723
              Anonymous
              Guest

              How does this mesh with the current US, which dedicates all of its resources to black people because it’s desperate to end their constant financial drain, yet sees no return on the trillions of dollars in investment?

              • #86728
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >which dedicates all of its resources to black people
                Lol do you have any proof of this? Stop spewing random bullshit and hoping people are too stupid to call you out. America doesn’t spend its entire GDP on black people you dipshit, what trillions of dollars have ever gone to black communities? At most, the government has given money to blacks in the form of lawsuits, usually when the CIA firebombed an elementary school or residential neighborhood or accidentally shot an infant in a break and enter.

                • #86732
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Blacks have gotten more than their fair share in government benefits for many decades and have yet to contribute back. The civil war alone cost more than they ever generated in wealth as slaves.

          • #86749
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Why do people feel the need to exaggerate shit like this?
            Because they are trying to demoralize and demonize white Americans while also pushing for them to not have children so they can get away with replacing them with low IQ consumers fr brown countries. Social Conditioning is real, and I have no idea why people act like spending billions of dollars, and using proven mass marketing techniques with decades of research behind them to most effectively psyop the masses is just “white people’s own choices”.

          • #86769
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >it was really just some area where black merchants did ok for themselves and it was called black wall street as a tongue in check joke
            source for any of this

            • #86817
              Anonymous
              Guest

              It’s been memory holes but the site was searched in like 2005 and they could only find 10 bodies directly tied to having died in the race riots despite claims that the number was in the hundreds or even thousands. After that no one gave a shit about it anymore until recently when they actually found 27 bodies in “mass graves” but what they really did was go to some old graveyard and dig up bodies, in their own separate graves, in coffins, with tombstones, and through selective editing present these as corpses dumped in a giant pit

              • #86818
                Anonymous
                Guest

                There are like 30 confirmed deaths. The higher numbers are just guesses, since there are many more people who disappeared.

          • #86775
            Anonymous
            Guest

            "Only" a few dozen identified bodies. The number of missing persons goes over a hundred, IIRC.

          • #86867
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals, and as many as 6,000 Black residents of Tulsa were interned in large facilities, many of them for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead. A 2001 state commission examination of events was able to confirm 39 dead, 26 Black and 13 white, woke af on contemporary autopsy reports, death certificates, and other records. The commission gave several estimates ranging from 75 to 300 dead.

      • #86606
        Anonymous
        Guest

        it was rich vs poor not white vs black, also the law they used was eminent domain, so it was rich cronies and the state oppressing innocent property owners

        sorry this event doesn’t bolster your ideology, but facts are facts, maybe change your ideology to the correct one

      • #86724
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Racism actually happened and it came in the form of a huge percentage of gnomish households owning slaves compared to their population.

      • #86740
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Not my problem. They’re lucky they weren’t just outright shot.

      • #86747
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Why do people like you mention /poo/ when you clear have never been to /poo/? You sound like a redditor who was to afraid of the scary 4chinz before coming here, while assuming Charlie Kirk tier scrote neocons you seethe at on Twitter are /poo/ because to you they’re literal nazis in the Republican Party just like that mean old /poo/

      • #86840
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Amazing how a bunch of chinks in one generation are able to do what blacks couldn’t within centuries, even when they were equally as discriminated against.

        • #86842
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Chinese Americans were treated like shit back in the 1850s but there weren’t very many of them. Most Chinese in the US today (or their parents or grandparents) arrived in the past 50ish years and are from the professional or educated classes. There are poor Asians (Hmong especially) but of course they don’t fit the model minority narrative.

          • #86843
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Chinese Americans were treated like shit back in the 1850s but there weren’t very many of them
            But their neighbourhoods were still successful
            >Most Chinese in the US today (or their parents or grandparents) arrived in the past 50ish years and are from the professional or educated classes
            The more educated ones are the recent generations. Most of their parents are store owners or similar type jobs.
            >There are poor Asians (Hmong especially) but of course they don’t fit the model minority narrative
            The Hmong are actually a good example of why blacks are poor and unsuccessful, both groups have low iq. Although I imagine since the Hmong have better family values they’re still able to create better, more successful communities.

            • #86848
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Chinatowns in America weren’t great places to live. There were multiple incidents of racially motivated mass murder. Recent generations of Chinese Americans (BTW the Chinese population of the US didn’t pass half a million until the 1970s) aren’t coal miners or rail workers like the immigrant workers in the 1870s were.

              >There are poor Asians (Hmong especially) but of course they don’t fit the model minority narrative
              The model minority narrative is more a way of showing that "systemic racism" doesn’t harm people. Poor Asians in America are not poor due to discrimination. There are proportionately more poor Chinese in China than America. That poor Chinese don’t turn to crime, especially violent crime, is still noteworthy.

              There absolutely is crime in some Asian American communities, especially in California (LA in particular). It’s not as serious there as it was in the 80s but it’s still a thing, at least in poorer communities.

              • #86850
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >There absolutely is crime
                Sure, as there is everywhere, but it’s not even as much as the white population. Asians as a group are still more financially successful and less represented in crime statistics.

                • #86853
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Same thing with educated Africans and many black Caribbean people who come to the US.

                  • #86855
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Any data you can share on this? The last thing I looked at was very vague about what success meant, and especially considering affirmative action still applies to them, it didn’t seem very uplifting

                    • #86861
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/sub-saharan-african-immigrants-united-states-2018
                      At least when it comes to getting higher education, they’re more educated than average. Affirmative action (if you even get it) can give you a better chance at getting into college, but it won’t get you a degree.

                      • #86865
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >About 19 percent of sub-Saharan Africans lived in poverty in 2017, compared to 15 percent of all immigrants and 13 percent of the U.S. born. Poverty rates were highest among Somalis (42 percent), and lowest among South Africans (9 percent).
                        Goddamn, why do we even allow Somalians to live here?

                      • #86869
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        They’re probably refugees.

            • #86849
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >But their neighbourhoods were still successful
              Cause they were A: far few and between despite the california riots, B: weren’t actively purscuted like Blacks and even Latinos were, hell Natives got the worse of all treatment argubly to this day.

              And the fact there are other successful African neighborhoods in comparison you can’t chalk it to muh iq.

              >The Hmong are actually a good example of why blacks are poor and unsuccessful, both groups have low iq.

              Nigerians are the highest educated and you rely on Kenyans to write your essays you can’t use the IQ argument.

              • #86852
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >Cause they were A: far few and between despite the california riots, B: weren’t actively purscuted like Blacks and even Latinos were
                What? Them having a much smaller community is actually a disadvantage since they are much more reliant on the dominant group and I’m pretty sure in the 19th century they had the same restrictions of these groups.
                >hell Natives got the worse of all treatment argubly to this day.
                Having reservations the size of European countries where federal law doesn’t apply as well as free money for education and business? Poor them.
                >And the fact there are other successful African neighborhoods in comparison you can’t chalk it to muh iq.
                There are a few successful African American neighbourhoods that are filled with entertainers
                >Nigerians are the highest educated
                I assume you mean in the USA and even that I doubt is true. However since they’re the result of selective immigration they are significantly higher iq than African-Americans
                >and you rely on Kenyans to write your essays you can’t use the IQ argument.
                No I don’t.

                Chinatowns in America weren’t great places to live. There were multiple incidents of racially motivated mass murder. Recent generations of Chinese Americans (BTW the Chinese population of the US didn’t pass half a million until the 1970s) aren’t coal miners or rail workers like the immigrant workers in the 1870s were.
                […]
                There absolutely is crime in some Asian American communities, especially in California (LA in particular). It’s not as serious there as it was in the 80s but it’s still a thing, at least in poorer communities.

                >Chinatowns in America weren’t great places to live
                They were decent thriving neighbourhoods
                >There were multiple incidents of racially motivated mass murder
                So like a few riots where a few people were killed over the course of hundreds of years? okey?
                >Recent generations of Chinese Americans (BTW the Chinese population of the US didn’t pass half a million until the 1970s) aren’t coal miners or rail workers like the immigrant workers in the 1870s were.
                I never said they were, I said that their parents were humble store owners or had similar jobs

                • #86857
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Them having a much smaller community is actually a disadvantage since they are much more reliant on the dominant group

                  So garden gnomes are a disadvantage? You do know at one point Chinese were consider white in some states?

                  >Having reservations the size of European countries where federal law doesn’t apply as well as free money for education and business? Poor them.

                  Yet they’re doing worse than Blacks and Latinos, they have the highest drop rate per capita and by race, clearly Whites doing the same shit to them as they done to Blacks.

                  >There are a few successful African American neighbourhoods that are filled with entertainers

                  African immigrants, not Black americans.

                  >However since they’re the result of selective immigration they are significantly higher iq than African-Americans

                  Then the same has to be said for Asians. Don’t just use the selective card on Africans and not Asians.

                  >So like a few riots where a few people were killed over the course of hundreds of years? okey?

                  Throughout late 19th-20th century, Vietnamese fishers in Texas killed by KKK

                  • #86860
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >Yet they’re doing worse than Blacks and Latinos
                    Probably because the only thing their people were ever meant to do was fight. They’re great at fighting. Take that away, force them to civilize and live as a white man, and all they can do is turn to alcoholism and live frustrated lives. But what’s the alternative? Allow them to genocide each other again?

                    • #86862
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >Probably because the only thing their people were ever meant to do was fight.

                      Woke af, I don’t see how this is a bad thing.

                      >force them to civilize and live as a white man, and all they can do is turn to alcoholism and live frustrated lives.

                      So that’s telling of White people than the Native.

                      >Allow them to genocide each other again?

                      No you did a better job than they could ever do.

                      • #86864
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        What point are you trying to make?

                • #86859
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Chinatowns in the 19th and early 20th centuries weren’t rich places, and the incidents of murder and violence weren’t isolated or violent. Asian Americans who came later, in the 1970s or later, didn’t face such hostility across the board. Being an owner of a grocery store or nail salon is still a lot better than being unemployed or working three minimum wage jobs.

          • #86847
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >There are poor Asians (Hmong especially) but of course they don’t fit the model minority narrative
            The model minority narrative is more a way of showing that "systemic racism" doesn’t harm people. Poor Asians in America are not poor due to discrimination. There are proportionately more poor Chinese in China than America. That poor Chinese don’t turn to crime, especially violent crime, is still noteworthy.

      • #86868
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >contrary to what /poo/ and their gnomish right-wing think tanks will tell you, Racism actually happened
        /poo/ is renowned for hiding racism

    • #86596
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes. There’s mass black graves under centrals park. The original name of the black settlement? Atlantis, yes THAT Atlantis.

      • #86597
        Anonymous
        Guest

        at last I truly see

      • #86600
        Anonymous
        Guest

        And here we have the first scrote who probably listens to some right wing garden gnome on Youtube who’s going to regurgitate what they do and try to reduce the premise that the American government could ever abuse its power.

        • #86602
          Anonymous
          Guest

          If you don’t believe that Atlantis is buried under central park with millions of black Kings then it’s you who is the racist one.

        • #86604
          Anonymous
          Guest

          As opposed to histrionically whining about what happened to a shantytown in the 19th century, which literally no one would care about if blacks weren’t involved?

        • #86615
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Oh look, you’re using alt right vernacular! I’m so convinced of your ethnic inferiority whining now!

          Lol

          • #86621
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Oh look, you’re using alt right vernacular!
            What the fuck are you talking about? What that guy said unironically sounds like what Marx would say, excepting youtube of course.

      • #86796
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I know your joking but what really happens to cemeteries when something like this happens?

    • #86599
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Probably but who cares.

    • #86603
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >I never heard a peep of this in any high school or college history class
      Well, usually what’s taught is stuff that mattered

      • #86622
        Anonymous
        Guest

        A fallacy, but at least this time it has led you to the right answer

      • #86719
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >usually what’s taught is stuff that mattered
        If only. My public school never mentioned Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Charlemagne, or anything else that you’d think would be notable. They taught two things: the Atlantic slave trade, and the Holocaust. Over and over and over again. We read Anne Franke’s diary, watched Schindler’s list, and had a 90 minute discussion about the Holocaust in my AP US history class. We “didn’t have time” to mention MacArthur, the African theatre, the battle of midway, the moon landing, the Cuban missile crisis, or a host of other things. We learned about the Atlantic slave trade, and we learned about the Holocaust. Anything else was passed over or ignored completely.

        • #86720
          Anonymous
          Guest

          This. The holocaust is like its own class, and we never even learned about the holodomor

          • #86811
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >we never even learned about the holodomor
            >Implying a famine exacerbated by poor local management is comparable to industrialized murder

            • #86812
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >denying the holodomor
              No different than saying the holocaust was just "disrupted supply lines and typhus"

        • #86748
          Anonymous
          Guest

          This. The holocaust is like its own class, and we never even learned about the holodomor

          Dunno what bullshit school you’re from, but in my AP American history class we learned about a lot of American history other than the Holocaust, and slavery, and in world history I learned about all those other people.

    • #86608
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Blacks will never have a functional land. Zimbabwe and South Africa are not a success. Haiti and Liberia are not a success.

      • #86610
        Anonymous
        Guest

        this but unironically

      • #86617
        Anonymous
        Guest

        African blacks are different from African Americans. African American Negroes are Semites while those Africans are Hamites

        • #86793
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >African American Negroes are Semites
          >literally 25% Northwest European

        • #86821
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >African American Negroes are Semites
          Oh we Amharas now? Woke af.

      • #86632
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Ghana, Botswana, Cape Verde, and the Bahamas are doing OK

        • #86634
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I guess they don’t need all that foreign aid then

          • #86680
            Anonymous
            Guest

            LMFAO aid for the freaking Bahamas, this board dude

          • #86697
            Anonymous
            Guest

            The Bahamas doesn’t take any foreign aid at all.
            Botswana receives comparatively little development money, mostly to combat AIDS. There are European countries that receive a greater percentage of their GDP in foreign aid than Botswana.
            And in the case of Cape Verde and Ghana, that foreign money actually seems to have paid off considering how quick those economies are growing.

            • #86698
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >The Bahamas doesn’t take any foreign aid at all.
              Like 90% of their economy is tourists coming and giving them money to sit on the beach

              • #86722
                Anonymous
                Guest

                How is that foreign aid you scrotebrain? The Bahamas economy has to be tourism because they have no actual resources and were given no other industries. the country is literally a random island filled with former slaves and they are better off than eastern european shitholes

                • #86725
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >were given
                  Hahahahahahahahaha

                  • #86729
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    All the infrastructure in Europe today was given to them by America. Literally tens of billions of dollars, interest free. The Bahamas has done more with much less. Proof that Africans are better than whites even being hit with the worst hurricanes every 8 months

                    • #86733
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      What do the Bahamas export and donate to?

          • #86824
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Yes, take away. There’s no such thing as free lunch especially from westerners. Hell go further cut Westerners off from their nations period, no relations economic or political period, every Black nation on earth should do this.

        • #86695
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Only in the relative sense that they aren’t in a state of constant chaos and civil war like Somalia or DR Congo. They’re still poverty-stricken, crime-ridden shitholes with corrupt and incompetent governments. The best country in sub-Saharan Africa is still worse than the worst country in Europe.

          • #86870
            Anonymous
            Guest

            id rather live in botswana than the indo-aryan soviet republic of moldova

        • #86712
          Anonymous
          Guest

          none of those places went all kill whitey

          • #86714
            Anonymous
            Guest

            The places that did go all "kill whitey" mostly did that as a way to distract from how much the leadership had already destroyed their countries. For example, Mugabe only started seizing farms after he wrecked Zimbabwe’s national finances with a pointless war against Rwanda and Uganda.

            • #86831
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Yep, People forget he wasn’t a Black nationalist more like crazed power hungry dictator that only started to use the race card in 2000s to justify farm seizing. He didn’t give it to the Zimbabwens who farm tho.

        • #86764
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Ghana
          LOL
          >Botswana
          Fair enough
          >Cape Verde
          44% White
          >Bahamas
          Practically a US territory

      • #86689
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Blacks will never have a functional land.
        Somebody post that copypasta about America being a country of scrotes.

        • #86690
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >functional land

          • #86763
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Being non-functioning IS its function. Dumb ass whiteboy.

        • #86877
          Anonymous
          Guest

          American culture is centered around scrotes. They have holidays for scrotes. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free scrotes. They listen to scrote music. They elect a scrote as their president. They dress and act like scrotes. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from scrotes. They post sassy gifs about scrotes. They watch sportsball in worship of scrotes. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of scrotes playing sports. They use scrote slang like "OMG" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they’re not thinking of the father of protestantism. They’re thinking of the scrote. Their cities are completely overrun with scrotes. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with scrotes and their global police force of soldiers filled with scrotes. Their men sit around watching scrote ball while their women sit around watching scrote talk shows. They worship scrotes like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Mike Tyson while attacking the whites who actually built their country before scrotes took over. Their movies are filled with scrotes and their music charts are topped by scrotes. They send scrotes to the Olympics and celebrate when the scrotes win because those scrotes are true red blooded american scrotes. They watch scrote porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about scrote penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate scrotes and how the mutt’s law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love scrotes but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of scrote loving scrotes

      • #86701
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Gabon, Botswana, Bahamas, are a success.

        • #86702
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Why don’t Haitian asylum seekers go there?

          • #86703
            Anonymous
            Guest

            How the fuck are they gonna get to Botswana from Haiti scrotebrain?

        • #86726
          Anonymous
          Guest

          They also aren’t run solely by Africans and are whores for foreign interest.

          How the fuck are they gonna get to Botswana from Haiti scrotebrain?

          Same way they got to America? Get flown or brought by NGO funded boats.

      • #86820
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Zimbabwe
        Sanctions and land mismanagment by Mugabe

        >South Africa

        Get rid of the Whites then if they don’t like it there, they have the highest literacy rate in the continent.

        >Haiti
        French and Western sabotage.

        >Liberia

        Was doing great til Whitey america pull a coup led by Samuel Doe and became a shithole

        So lets recap, what all these countries have in common?

        • #86823
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Western intervention where there was no need for it.

        • #86830
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Get rid of the Whites then if they don’t like it there
          It’s their country and was running fine until global pressure caused them to end apartheid

        • #86834
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >It’s all da white man’s fault even in cases where it’s the decisions of the black populist governments destroying the country
          Also Whites created south Africa, it’s the blacks that should go back to their Bantustans.

          • #86835
            Anonymous
            Guest

            False. South Africa would have remained undeveloped without black workers.

            • #86836
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >South Africa would have remained undeveloped without black workers.
              Absolute nonsense. They would simply have had to pay white workers higher wages. They would have been better off today too since they would have encouraged immigration.

              • #86839
                Anonymous
                Guest

                They would have had a severe labor shortage, and South Africa was never as attractive a destination as, say, the Americas. It would never have happened. The US tried what you describe (offering high wages and encouraging immigration) and still had labor shortages and vast areas of under-developed land.

                • #86841
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >They would have had a severe labor shortage
                  So? They had enough to develop for their population.
                  >and South Africa was never as attractive a destination as, say, the Americas.
                  Their economy was mainly resource woke af, they could offer as attractive of a salary as anywhere else in that sector.
                  >The US tried what you describe (offering high wages and encouraging immigration) and still had labor shortages and vast areas of under-developed land.
                  So what? As long as they had the labour to sustain their population the rest doesn’t matter.

                  • #86844
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Yeah no. Italians and Russians weren’t going to settle there en masse to risk their lives daily in gold mines in a country that was as out-there, backwards or foreign as South Africa. It was cheaper to bring in small numbers of Europeans and force the blacks to work.

                    • #86846
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Except they did in south America.
                      >backwards or foreign as South Africa
                      What? Not only did the Europeans there develop it to a European standard but it wasn’t more foreign than the Americas. In fact south Africa attracted a great amount of Europeans, the reason why it didn’t attract more is because there wasn’t a great need to due to being able to use locals as cheap labour.

                      • #86851
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Europeans who moved to South America weren’t all working themselves to death in mines. Argentina and Brazil (to name two countries) were at one point emerging as decent places to live, as hard as it is to imagine today. They weren’t like like South Africa.

                      • #86854
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Europeans who moved to South America weren’t all working themselves to death in mines
                        And neither were the immigrants to south Africa
                        >Argentina and Brazil (to name two countries) were at one point emerging as decent places to live, as hard as it is to imagine today. They weren’t like like South Africa.
                        You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes Latin America was decent and so was south Africa. It’s clear from your posts you just have no idea about the history of south Africa.

                      • #86863
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Europeans who came to South Africa sure would be working in the mines more if the blacks weren’t. South Africa in the early days wasn’t a diversified economy. The biggest industry was mining, by far. Even when Argentina wasn’t so populated (c. 1880) it was a more attractive destination than South Africa if you were Italian or Spanish. South Africa just wasn’t a relatively major magnet for European migration, even though the government welcomed it, and they already had a sizable source of cheap, expendable labor.

                      • #86874
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        This fool genuinely believes that European people didn’t immigrate to work in mines.

                      • #86875
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        There were some European miners, but by and large they weren’t the majority, especially during apartheid.

                  • #86866
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >So? They had enough to develop for their population.
                    White South Africans didn’t want to do back breaking manual labor even for higher wages. The economic system in Colonial and Apartheid South Africa was built around the exploitation of cheap black labor so that the white population could accumulate wealth quickly.

                    >Their economy was mainly resource woke af, they could offer as attractive of a salary as anywhere else in that sector.
                    Many whites were employed by the government in the civil service or companies which had lucrative contracts with the state. Whites were able to earn good money doing office jobs. They couldn’t expand government jobs to accommodate new white immigrants if they allowed mass white immigration. The white immigrants that did move to South Africa worked in the construction or industrial sectors. But even there they were appointment as foreman or managers for just being white over black employees despite them not having prior job experience or qualifications.

      • #86829
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Nigeria, Botswana, Rwanda all dispute this.

    • #86612
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It was just a slum. Same goes for the so-called "Black Wall Street" in Tulsa, Oklahoma

    • #86613
      Anonymous
      Guest

      No, she got it wrong, the real name was Wakanda

    • #86614
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >college history class
      You mean the ones you CHOOSE? Damn bitch, I wonder why you never learned about, probably because "the history of urban development in New York" wasn’t offered that semester and you probably wouldn’t have taken it anyway.
      What I hate the most about these midwit takes is that they presume that it’s the education systems responsibility to teach you literally everything that ever happened. DO YOUR OWN INDEPENDENT READING for fucks sake. Public libraries are out there!

      • #86807
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I used to think the point of college was to teach you research skills and, to some degree, the ability or habit of self-directed learning.
        Do they not do that?

    • #86616
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >there was a thriving Black community called Seneca Village where freed slaves finally acquired land and built churches & schools and then it was bulldozed to make Central Park?
      correct
      >And that I never heard a peep of this in any high school or college history class?
      well it was pretty much forgotten until someone wrote a book about the history of Central Park in the 1990s. The reason that it wasnt a big thing in the first place is probably systemic racism at the time.

      • #86618
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >The reason that it wasnt a big thing in the first place is probably systemic racism at the time.
        Or because it’s not very important or interesting. Places are cleared to make room for new things. The "black community" of NYC is now the entire state, and you can be sure they appreciate Central Park more than the small neighborhood that was cleared away.

    • #86619
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Manhattan is blanketed with buried history, and neighborhoods have been remade and obliterated countless times, going from posh to slum and back again, with ne ethnic wave after another.. Washington Square Park was a potter’s field and there’s countless bodies beneath the NYU students, tourists and weed dealers. Guess what? Harlem was a boring all white middle class suburb until a real estate bubble left a surplus of housing and someone decided to start renting to blacks.
      I’ve known about Seneca Village for years. It wasn’t a shantytown but a small village with three churches and a school. A third of the residents were Irish. The landowners were paid and moved on, unlike the mostly Irish squatters in the “Pigtown” area in the southern part of the future park. In terms of displaced communities in New York history, Seneca Village is minuscule.

    • #86620
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Give Central Park back to scrotes … oh wait.

    • #86623
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >While largely rural, the land that the legislators chose was not empty. On it were several communities of people who had purchased the land in the very early years of the 1800s. One of these was Seneca Village. Free Blacks founded the village in 1825: the first free Black community in New York City. When slavery ended in New York State in 1827, the population grew as people built and rented homes here. The town grew to be a middle-class Black community of almost 5 acres. It had streets, three churches, two schools, and two cemeteries. More than 350 people lived in Seneca Village. As well as the Black population, German and Irish immigrants also lived in the community.

      >As the development of Central Park grew closer, newspapers and politicians began to describe the villages as “shantytowns.” They called the residents “denizens,” “squatters,” “vagabonds,” and “scoundrels.” Residents of Seneca Village fought to keep their homes and community intact. But in 1857, the city used eminent domain to forcibly remove them. Police removed those who resisted: “…the supremacy of the law was upheld by the policeman’s bludgeons.”[1] Once the people were gone, the city demolished the village. Historians know very little about what happened to the former residents.

      • #86624
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Someone defend this.

        • #86625
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Ok. They lost so we won. Mission accomplished.

          • #86822
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You know what, I can’t even be mad I respect enemy being honest.

        • #86626
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Americans prioritizing American citizens over resident aliens

        • #86633
          Anonymous
          Guest

          displacement of people was an inevitable result of the rise of modern ever changing cities, the poor in Haussman’s Paris got chucked into the suburbs, Robert Moses basically built where he pleased until he finally built up enough opposition to stop him, the list goes on (and in America this could sometimes have a racial bent, Moses preferred to build over nonwhite neighborhoods IIRC)
          basically people don’t give a shit about the power of eminent domain the government has until it affects them which speaks to the political apathy on the issue, because it’s a thorny one

        • #86648
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >German and Irish immigrants also lived in the community
          >eminent domain
          There is no justification for this, just their motives and modus operandi were different from what r*ddit is telling you.

        • #86760
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I can’t really, eminent domain laws are some freaking bullshit even if the political necessity for them is often legitimate.

        • #86808
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I dont really care that much for New York or it’s people so I wont bother.

      • #86628
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Someone defend this.

        Northerners NEVER cared about blacks. They HATED blacks. I don’t know why blacks think that the civil war was about saving them when as soon as Lincoln created the emancipation proclamation out of nowhere people began rioting IMMEDIATELY because they hated blacks so much and didn’t want to be drafted to save them

        • #86646
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You’re a little off on your dates but in the July 1863 Draft Riots in New York, dozens of blacks were lynched by white mobs. Their targets varied—draft officials, cops, the wealthy, pro-war newspapers—but much of the fury of the poor white mob was vented on the blacks who lived beside them in the slums.
          There’s a novel called Paradise Alley that’s set in that era, has scenes in Seneca Village, and cumulates with the Draft Riots. Gangs of New York also ends with the riots and is a mostly accurate depiction apart from warships shelling Manhattan.

      • #86631
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >But in 1857, the city used eminent domain to forcibly remove them
        So they got a bunch of money

      • #86635
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >*Black Americans make a nice little town and are just being normal people*
        >*White Americans act like poopyholes and destroy town for a park*
        >*White Americans continue unnecessarily destroying successful Black towns*
        >*Generations later White Americans "wonder" why Black Americans haven’t adapted like Asian Americans and blame Black Americans*

        • #86636
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Black Americans
          They weren’t Americans until after the Civil War. Free blacks were just that, free blacks.

        • #86638
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Have you ever considered that those places might have been bulldozed because they were dilapidated slums with skyhigh crime rates? Because I know that’s the case with my local "STRONG BLACK COMMUNITY" that got destroyed to put a bridge up 70 years ago

          • #86678
            Anonymous
            Guest

            How are you not certain? Is this a history board or not?

            • #86693
              Anonymous
              Guest

              I cheated on the LULZ.orgLULZ entrance exam, deal with it.

        • #86639
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >White Americans get rid of all anti-black discrimination and create pro-black benefits through laws even to the point of some of them being deemed unconstitutional
          >everyone watches and waits for productive black paradises to pop up all over the country
          >crickets chirp

          • #86640
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >All discrimination laws magically disappeared after the 60s!

            • #86642
              Anonymous
              Guest

              All anti-black ones, at least. The only ones left are anti-white and anti-asian.

              • #86643
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >They stopped specifying black people on the law so that means there isn’t anymore anti-black laws

                • #86644
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  What are you referring to then?

                  • #86647
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    The whole idea of systemic racism. They taking critical race theory anon

                    • #86649
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      The only demonstrable systemic racism is against whites and asians, who both still somehow manage to be more successful than black people

                      • #86777
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >anti white racism
                        lol

                  • #86652
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    literally any time a black is charged with any crime, that’s racism.

                    • #86654
                      Anonymous
                      Guest
                      • #86655
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        That response seems like you feel guilty

                      • #86656
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’m not white, I can’t feel guilty.
                        I have never felt like a white has been a victim.

                      • #86665
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I don’t think you’re a victim either. In social power and economic potential, you’re in a better position than white Americans are.

                      • #86670
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I wish I was in a better position than white Americans are. I hope i will be one day.
                        But that day is not today.
                        Whites will never ever be victims.

                      • #86797
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >an incel mistery meat

                      • #86804
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        dealing with you whiny scrotes makes me a victim

                      • #86658
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        they are victims of racial discrimination

                      • #86661
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        They’ll never be victims of racial discrimination no matter how much you try to push it. No matter how many graphs you post.
                        Especially in a world where whites are trending towards losing the majority in colonial countries.

                      • #86664
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        lol this scrote is rabid

                      • #86676
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        but the graphs are the facts, they prove white people are in actuality being racially discriminated against, and asians, and hispanics too in favor of blacks, they also prove black people are not as discriminated against as commonly believed.

                        just one look, the black populace are in a state of hysteria over distortions by the media and highly unlikely isolated events they found on the internet

                        facts are funny things

                      • #86778
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Unfortunately for people like you, we live in a country where laws are supposed to work with presumption of innocence.

      • #86645
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >As well as the Black population, German and Irish immigrants also lived in the community.
        Interesting how it’s a "black community" though.

      • #86694
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Stuff like this is still done today. There’s a company trying to destroy an overwhelmingly African American town to run a pipeline through it. Also minority communities disproportionately suffer from air pollution

        • #86696
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I stopped caring about stuff like this when I realized that the only time people give a shit is when the people affected aren’t white

      • #86715
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I love how the rich and powerful can sway the public’s mind just by using the press, reminds me of that time where some rich scrote was upset that he had to slow down his Ford Model T everytime somebody walked on the streets (which people constantly did) so he used his influence with newspapers and coined the term „jaywalking“

        • #86717
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >reminds me of that time where some rich scrote was upset that he had to slow down his Ford Model T everytime somebody walked on the streets (which people constantly did) so he used his influence with newspapers and coined the term „jaywalking“
          Excuse me?

      • #86772
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >The town grew to be a middle-class Black community
        Source?

    • #86627
      Mrrandom
      Guest

      Why don’t black people succeed today with Medicaid and food stamps and plenty of jobs to go around? All these fuckign excuses but people see right through it.

      • #86630
        Anonymous
        Guest

        They don’t succeed under stress, they don’t succeed under excess, they don’t succeed even when you give them an already thriving, rich city

      • #86776
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Relatively, they are succeeding.

    • #86629
      Anonymous
      Guest

      was it really thriving?

    • #86637
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Hmmm
      I wonder what the skin color of those people were
      Probably a healthy diversity of color and gender

    • #86650
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Blacks had to suffer so chinks, garden gnomes, indians, hispanics and arabs would have a good time in the US.
      Just focus the neo nazi racists on the blacks and everyone else passes under the radar.

      • #86651
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Insane copium negro

      • #86657
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Blacks had to suffer
        Blacks didn’t have to do shit. People were offering them their own country and aid since the early 19th century. If they accepted leaving the US, they would’ve likely been freed much earlier too.

        • #86659
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Blacks have to suffer so other races can enjoy life.

          • #86660
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Blacks suffer because they’re stupid

            • #86662
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Australians hate Chinese people because they don’t have enough blacks to focus on them.
              There has to be someone you can hate, in america blacks were chosen

              • #86666
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Blacks receive hate from everybody because they’re the dumbest race

                • #86669
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Sorry but I don’t see Australians focusing on the blacks. You seem to be a scrotebrain lol

                  • #86671
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Says the scrote

                    • #86672
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Says the scrotebrain. Hey what are you gonna do about all the blacking of white countries you piece of shit?
                      What are you gonna do with your pasty skinny skin

                      • #86673
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >durr hurr durr muh penis
                        riveting

                      • #86826
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        That’s literally white people think about, freaking other women, thinking BBC on the mind, you think muh dick more than gangbanger nig. It’s actually is riveting.

                      • #86674
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >.01%
                        >WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?!?!?!?

                      • #86677
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        The population of Africa will be 3 billion by 2100.
                        The population of whites might be like 200 million.
                        American whites will probably be exterminated once they dip under 50% of the population.

                      • #86681
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Whites have always been a minority. I wonder if your ancestor, who was married to his cousin, coped the same way you do, yet here we are. Forever to historically btfo you

                      • #86683
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’m winning by existing.
                        You are going extinct because you’re not killing me.
                        Time is on my side

                      • #86798
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I don’t understand, you’re asking people to genocide you?

                      • #86688
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >The population of Africa will be 3 billion by 2100.
                        That assumes that white people will sleep feeding the.

                      • #86699
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        freaking hell is it really that hard for white people to just have sex?

                      • #86700
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >just have 20 children each to keep up with immigration, duh

                      • #86751
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >are you freaking implying i should have sex? this is literally a microagression

                        scrote, get some pussy

                      • #86752
                        Anonymous
                        Guest
                      • #86755
                        OP: Sucker of cock
                        Guest

                        >waaaaah someone told me not to fuck Q_Q

                        scrote,
                        get
                        some
                        pussy

                      • #86756
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Not having children =/= not freaking
                        Abortion and birth control are a thing

                      • #86757
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >yeah no dude i totally fuck i just don’t have kids because uhhhhhhhhhhh

                        you’re a liar and a scrote, we shall replace you, whitoid

                      • #86758
                        Anonymous
                        Guest
                      • #86759
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        This isn’t your board, chud

                      • #86761
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Go back to r*ddit

                      • #86770
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I could kill you with my barehands

                      • #86779
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I thought the internet tough guy fad died by 2008

                      • #86773
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Responsible people don’t have children willy nilly. And it’s tough having children when both prospective parents need to work in order to afford children and to pay taxes to subsidize kweenz and thirdies having 15 kids each.

                      • #86780
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Meme
                        Black Americans have a birth rate below replacement rates. This isn’t 1900.

                      • #86781
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Wow, I didn’t know homicide rates in the black community were that high

                      • #86782
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        abortion isn’t homicide

                      • #86784
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yes it is

                      • #86783
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        African Americans make up 13% of the population and have 16% of all babies birthed. Whites make up 76% of the population and have 73% of babies birthed. Now factor in poverty rates and welfare demographics. Who’s paying to support a major percentage of black children?
                        >https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219
                        >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
                        And none of this addresses the issue of foreign aid, which keeps thirdies alive for longer, decreases infant mortality, and therefore increases population growth, but does nothing to alleviate poverty. We’ve reached bizarro eugenics where the least fit are supported in having the most children, at the expense of the most fit.

                      • #86795
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Oh wow three percentage points each. What a huge difference.

                      • #86801
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Your claim that black birth rates are below replacement level is false.

                      • #86802
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        It’s not. It’s 1.9.

                      • #86805
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >foreign aid
                        This is a meme. Aid just undermines developing economies.

                      • #86827
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >The population of Africa will be 3 billion by 2100
                        Doubt it if global warming and modernize Africa have anything to say about it.

                        Whites have always been a minority. I wonder if your ancestor, who was married to his cousin, coped the same way you do, yet here we are. Forever to historically btfo you

                        >Whites have always been a minority.

                        Not true at one point Whites were always majority than all of Africa before colonization til after ww2 Funny the (((correlation)))

                        >He doesn’t know that flag boards exist

                        Again beside /poo/ global obsessing over the BBC, /int/ isn’t schizo like that and could take bantz better. And Assues are focusing on Chinese or Abos which lets face it get the Black card status.

                        >>LULZ matters
                        yes

                        Honestly slightly above twitter and way above reddit but not by much for either.

                  • #86682
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >He doesn’t know that flag boards exist

                    • #86685
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >LULZ matters
                      Stupid redneck trailer trash methhead scrotebrains on LULZ with less than 100k networth don’t matter. You guys think you’re human. You are not worth the shit on my shoe.

                      • #86687
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >>LULZ matters
                        yes

        • #86663
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Just leave the country after we’ve domesticated you, destroyed your identity and forced you to build our most important monuments for free
          Rope yourself!

          • #86667
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >we tortured you for 400 years. wanna stick around with us?
            >sure!

            • #86675
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >maybe go back to where you came from? Maybe huh?
              >*walks ten feet to the right*

            • #86679
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Just leave the country after we’ve domesticated you, destroyed your identity and forced you to build our most important monuments for free
              Rope yourself!

              >maybe go back to where you came from? Maybe huh?
              >*walks ten feet to the right*

              https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln5/1:812?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

              >if the colored people are persuaded to go anywhere, why not there? One reason for an unwillingness to do so is that some of you would rather remain within reach of the country of your nativity. I do not know how much attachment you may have toward our race. It does not strike me that you have the greatest reason to love them. But still you are attached to them at all events.
              >The place I am thinking about having for a colony is in Central America. It is nearer to us than Liberia—not much more than one-fourth as far as Liberia, and within seven days’ run by steamers. Unlike Liberia it is on a great line of travel—it is a highway. The country is a very excellent one for any people, and with great natural resources and advantages, and especially because of the similarity of climate with your native land—thus being suited to your physical condition.

              Why would this have been unacceptable? It’d be right next to the US, no different from moving from one state to another, and they would be entirely in control of their own destiny with no fear of discrimination or oppression

              • #86704
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >moving to Central America
                Have you seen how they treat their darker skins
                Fuck that
                If I’m gonna be treated like shut anyway might as well be where I’m familiar instead of the future favela

                • #86705
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  They wouldn’t have been part of an established central American country, the US government would have bought land and established a black colony just like they did in Liberia, with financial and military aid until they were self sufficient. I think it’s the best chance they had

                  >There is much to encourage you. For the sake of your race you should sacrifice something of your present comfort for the purpose of being as grand in that respect as the white people. It is a cheering thought throughout life that something can be done to ameliorate the condition of those who have been subject to the hard usage of the world. It is difficult to make a man miserable while he feels he is worthy of himself, and claims kindred to the great God who made him. In the American Revolutionary war sacrifices were made by men engaged in it; but they were cheered by the future. Gen. Washington himself endured greater physical hardships than if he had remained a British subject. Yet he was a happy man, because he was engaged in benefiting his race

                  Come on, that’s a beautiful statement

                  • #86706
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Fuck off, as if Belize wasn’t enough
                    T. Guateamalan

                    • #86803
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      I’ve heard that Belize is mostly spics now rather than blacks?
                      This true guac anon

            • #86684
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >No! I’m leaving this racist white shithole and returning home!!
              >…
              >Wait I don’t even know where home is..

              • #86686
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >here’s a home for you and your people
                >I don’t want it! just whip me!

                • #86707
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Please go here. I know we stole everything from you, but we need you to leave so that we can feel better about ourselves
                  >"Nah I already have a wife, kids and friends that all live here. Not to mention my ancestors built this home while your family came here a few decades ago, so if anything it belongs to me more than it does to you."
                  >REEEEEE

                  • #86708
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >stole everything from you
                    They had them work for a few generations and gave them a living with retirement and pensions.
                    Part of the money made from their labor would have gone towards making a new country entirely for them where they’d have full political control of themselves and a national unity they would never find in the US.
                    It’s not like every black person stayed exactly where they were because they were so attached to their home state. They migrated north and cross-state when that presented better opportunities. Why not inhabit their own nation and never have to worry about poor treatment?

                    • #86709
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      freaking scrotebrain

                    • #86710
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >They had them work for a few generations and gave them a living with retirement and pensions.
                      Is that what you call 300 years of enslavement, collectively destroying creditablity of everyone with a dark skin tone, taking away all knowledge of their past, forcing them to live in poorer areas, militarizing the police against them, robbing their home continent of everything its worth, tearing down all successful communities and creating laws specifically to keep them from voting and "in control"?

                      This the problem with the "just move them all away" idea. It’s just a way for white Americand to try and bury everything they’ve done and how much they’ve advanced off their racist polices. You just want to forget about it as if that solves anything more somehow makes the world a better place or makes you a better person. This whole problem could be solved if white people would just take accountability and stop being racist. It’s literally that simple.

                      • #86713
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Is that what you call 300 years of enslavement
                        Since the start of the US, there was about 40 years at most in the North and 90 years in the South
                        >collectively destroying creditablity of everyone with a dark skin tone, taking away all knowledge of their past, forcing them to live in poorer areas, militarizing the police against them, robbing their home continent of everything its worth, tearing down all successful communities and creating laws specifically to keep them from voting
                        All the more reason for them to leave, don’t you think?
                        >This the problem with the "just move them all away" idea. It’s just a way for white Americand to try and bury everything they’ve done
                        It’s a mutual gain for both sides. White Americans owed nothing to blacks, blacks didn’t "build the country" so to speak, and would have receive their own nation to be amazingly productive in if that’s to be believed.
                        >You just want to forget about it as if that solves anything
                        What’s the alternative? Hundreds of years spent trying to "fix the wrongs of the past" to no effect or benefit? White Americans wanted to get on with their own lives.

                      • #86716
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Since the start of the US, there was about 40 years at most in the North and 90 years in the South
                        Nice cope.
                        >It’s a mutual gain for both sides.
                        No. It’s one side just trying to avoid accountability.
                        >White Americans owed nothing to blacks, blacks didn’t "build the country" so to speak
                        Are you joking?
                        >and would have receive their own nation to be amazingly productive in if that’s to be believed.
                        Except they are just as American as white people. If anything, white Americans need to go back because they stole the land and don’t even belong in America. Also, you can’t just "send them away" for the same reason why you can’t just release your pet turtle in the wild. Blacks still would suffer from slave mentality
                        >What’s the alternative?
                        White people not being racist. That sounds simple to me and it helps them become better human beings that don’t rape every culture they come in contact with.

                      • #86718
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Nice cope.
                        Waiting for a real response.
                        >No. It’s one side just trying to avoid accountability.
                        What’s the accountability exactly? Black people aren’t white peoples’ pets.
                        >Are you joking?
                        Respond as if I’m not.
                        >Except they are just as American as white people. If anything, white Americans need to go back because they stole the land and don’t even belong in America
                        This makes it hard to take you seriously. You clearly hate everything to do with America, you don’t even see it as a legitimate country, and think Africans are "just as American" as the settlers who founded America simply because of a post-civil war comproimise.
                        >Blacks still would suffer from slave mentality
                        How do you solve this then?
                        >White people not being racist.
                        Define racism for me in this context first then because your proposals don’t make sense currently

                      • #86736
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Waiting for a real response
                        About you ignoring so much about slavery?
                        >What’s the accountability exactly?
                        For what whites have done to black people.
                        >Respond as if I’m not.
                        Respond to you acting like America didn’t get anything done with using slave labor?
                        >You clearly hate everything to do with America
                        Not at all. I like America, but it’s good parts are just as numerous as it’s bad parts. To deny America’s hypocrisy, arrogance and racism is to deny half its history.
                        >you don’t even see it as a legitimate country, and think Africans are "just as American" as the settlers who founded America simply because of a post-civil war comproimise.
                        No. I simply understand that black people have been in America longer than the ancestors of most white people as most of them come from immigrant families. Also I recognize that America was in fact stolen which isn’t a groundbreaking discovery.
                        >How do you solve this then?
                        I guess starting with education and allowing them to freely roam around
                        >Define racism for me in this context
                        Not discriminating against them systemically.

                      • #86737
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >About you ignoring so much about slavery?
                        Fill me in
                        >For what whites have done to black people.
                        Expand on this. Maybe by the end of the conversation, black people will owe other black people or at least deserve enslavement for what they did in their past. That’s a normal way to think, right?
                        >Respond to you acting like America didn’t get anything done with using slave labor?
                        Yes. If America owes its success to slave labor, there’s a lot of 3rd world slave utilizing countries that have some explaining to do.
                        >Not at all. I like America, but it’s good parts are just as numerous as it’s bad parts.
                        What are its good parts to you? Judging by your posts so far, they can’t have happened until damn near the 21st century.
                        >I recognize that America was in fact stolen
                        Is that to say that America shouldn’t exist and should give its land away to, I guess random Indian tribes that may or may not exist anymore and may or may not have ever inhabited any particular part of the country?
                        >I guess starting with education and allowing them to freely roam around
                        And then?
                        >Not discriminating against them systemically.
                        Okay, what’s a way to be white, not be racist, and still retain your own identity and peoplehood, and not live and work for the benefit or others?

                      • #86738
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Also I recognize that America was in fact stolen which isn’t a groundbreaking discovery.
                        I like how scrotes like yourself always spout this nonsense that you could ‘steal’ a country. Like, do you think the Americans just built forts all over and the indians just didn’t freaking notice until it was too late? How the fuck do you even steal land where thousands of people live?

                      • #86741
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >>Waiting for a real response
                        >About you ignoring so much about slavery?
                        >>What’s the accountability exactly?
                        >For what whites have done to black people.
                        Dragged them kicking and screaming into modernity?
                        >>Respond as if I’m not.
                        >Respond to you acting like America didn’t get anything done with using slave labor?
                        The cost of tolerating blacks has far outstripped any benefits from mere menial labour.
                        >>You clearly hate everything to do with America
                        >Not at all. I like America, but it’s good parts are just as numerous as it’s bad parts. To deny America’s hypocrisy, arrogance and racism is to deny half its history.
                        Virtually every country on the planet has a history of intolerance towards blacks, for good reason.
                        >>you don’t even see it as a legitimate country, and think Africans are "just as American" as the settlers who founded America simply because of a post-civil war comproimise.
                        >No. I simply understand that black people have been in America longer than the ancestors of most white people as most of them come from immigrant families. Also I recognize that America was in fact stolen which isn’t a groundbreaking discovery.
                        Granting of citizenship is at the discretion of the state.

                        >Also I recognize that America was in fact stolen which isn’t a groundbreaking discovery.
                        Right of conquest. All of human history is men with pointy sticks killing and taking the lands of others. Bantus themselves were an extremely violent, genocidal race in prehistory.

                        >>Define racism for me in this context
                        >Not discriminating against them systemically.
                        Maybe they should control their systemic impulsivity and immorality, grow up and fix the total failures of their own communities to reform, as they have completely failed to do for the last century.

                      • #86735
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Also, you can’t just "send them away" for the same reason why you can’t just release your pet turtle in the wild. Blacks still would suffer from slave mentality
                        What race are you?

                      • #86727
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Since the start of the US, there was about 40 years at most in the North and 90 years in the South
                        mentally scrotebrained lmao

                        >All the more reason for them to leave, don’t you think?
                        so you admit blacks have been targeted for hundreds of years and denied any chance to do well for themselves? That’s what you’re saying, you have no counter to any of his points

                        >It’s a mutual gain for both sides. White Americans owed nothing to blacks, blacks didn’t "build the country" so to speak, and would have receive their own nation to be amazingly productive in if that’s to be believed.
                        Blacks indisputably contributed a lot to American culture and infrastructure over 300 years. You don’t care to learn about it because you simply don’t want to know

                        >What’s the alternative? Hundreds of years spent trying to "fix the wrongs of the past" to no effect or benefit? White Americans wanted to get on with their own lives.
                        Insectoids

                      • #86730
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >mentally scrotebrained lmao
                        Waiting for a real response
                        >so you admit blacks have been targeted for hundreds of years and denied any chance to do well for themselves?
                        Of course. They were slaves to Americans for most of US history, and after the Civil War there was a lot of animosity towards them until about the 1960s. Again, why wouldn’t they leave? Hell, the pilgrims that founded America left England as soon as they could because it was better than staying where they weren’t wanted.
                        >Blacks indisputably contributed a lot to American culture and infrastructure over 300 years
                        They simply didn’t. They had their jobs, but 10% of the country making up exclusively a basic labor force that wasn’t even lucrative until the cotton gin was invented wasn’t the thing that made America what it was. South America imported 5x the slaves and didn’t achieve the same kind of success.

                      • #86731
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >so you admit blacks have been targeted for hundreds of years and denied any chance to do well for themselves? That’s what you’re saying, you have no counter to any of his points
                        And yet, there has never been any time in the history of the US where more blacks migrated from the US to Africa than vice versa. What could explain this? Do they simply yearn to be oppressed?

                      • #86739
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >taking away all knowledge of their past,
                        They had higher literacy rates than Russians or Latin Americans did by 1870.
                        Also what is this "knowledge of the past" supposed to do exactly?
                        >robbing their home continent of everything its worth
                        Yeah because the continent was SO rich before.

          • #86668
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Tell me more about these traditional cotton woke af construction techniques of the American negro.

          • #86786
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >we’ve domesticated you
            Unironically racist as shit.

    • #86653
      Anonymous
      Guest

      is this where yakub is buried?

    • #86691
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >at its peak had 264 members

      lol. But what really triggers me about these things is that these people turn it into a moral outrage that schools didn’t teach them about some arcane topic that interests them.

      • #86692
        Anonymous
        Guest

        About 87 of whom were white

    • #86711
      Anonymous
      Guest

      yes but who cares

    • #86742
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The black race is judged by its dominance in failures of education, crime, civic behavior, business achievement, intellectual achievement, and artistic and literary achievement. East Asians and Western Europeans have aggressively killed off their lower classes through winters, starvation, enslavment, hanging, beheading, war, and a very severe justice system for thousands of years. The rest of the world has not. So the size of the underclasses in the black, arabic, turkic, hispanic, and southeast asian worlds is far higher a percentage than in the more northern climes. West and Far East were eugenic civilizations. Rice farming is a brutal system requiring disciplined work 360 days a year. Western winters are unforgiving.

      Humans think by stereotypes just as we think in all other categories. We have to. We cannot afford to interrogate every person we meet. We cannot pay the high cost of risk of trusting people from high risk groups. Instead, how can people from high risk groups signal (demonstrate) that they are good risks? Research has consistently shown, that contrary to popular myth, stereotypes are the most ACCURATE feature in social science. So people must rely on stereotypes, stereotypes are true, and it is the responsibility of people who are members of negatively stereotyped groups to change their behavior and signals so that they are visibly not a risk.

      When we say ‘we can’t judge this middle class black man’ or some other “Not All X Are Like That”, we are either committing a rhetorical fallacy or simply lying. Why? because the fact that we say most people of group X are a high risk, we are not saying that an outlier is. Yet conversely, we are saying (almost always correctly) that most people from group X are in fact a higher risk that we perceive our own group to be.

      • #86750
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >The rest of the world has not.
        The rest of the world has literally all of those things except winter in some places. I honestly don’t understand why people think a criminal justice system with harsh capital punishments is unique to Europe, when even today in the Middle East they stone adulterous women, and scrotes to death in public. I’m wondering this as a fascist, not an anti-pol spammer.

    • #86743
      Anonymous
      Guest

      We know the reasons for black underclass achievement: (a) the disproportionate size of the black underclass below 85 IQ, and the comparatively small sizes of its middle and upper middle classes, and total absence of an upper class, (b) earlier and more rapid maturity accompanied by the same level of hormones, leading to impulsivity and aggression, (c) lower verbal intelligence, (d) lower aggregate intelligence, (e) destruction of the black family by the progressive programs of the Johnson administration’s Great Society programs of the 1960’s – his attempt to mimc soviet resettlement programs from villages to urban areas without grasping the vast differences in Russian and black human capital. (f) the attempt to educate different races that mature more or less, more quickly or more slowly, at the same age under the same conditions. Educate black and hispanic men in what equates to military training and you will get good men out of it. You cannot ask humans in their youth to fight hormones that intense. Educating pliable asians and less pliable and more physical whites at the same rates is equally destructive. We can start asians and east asians one to two years earlier than whites, and it’s arguable that we should provide two more years for hispanics and three for blacks. It prevents schools from tailoring programs to the genetic needs of the children.

      We get nowhere by lying that we’re equally distributed. Its lies of equality that prevent us from developing institutions that support the needs of different genetic organisms, with different rates of maturity, different degrees of maturity, and different sizes of underclass.

      • #86788
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This post is too high IQ for this board.

      • #86872
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >earlier and more rapid maturity accompanied by the same level of hormones, leading to impulsivity and aggression
        Those are only averages. Instead of streaming education by race or age, children should be put in classes according to ability. At the moment it’s a big deal to move a child up a year or hold them back a year, so a lot of the brightest and the dumbest children are two or three years higher/lower than the class average teaching is tailored towards. Which naturally results in worse outcomes across the spectrum; brighter children have their potential limited, dumber children naturally rebel against education that’s too advanced for them, and the kids in the middle have to put up with the disruption caused by the dumbest children and being constantly compared to the brightest children.

        The main problem with schools is that they’ve always been run for the convenience of teachers first, parents second, then any other special interest group with an axe to grind, and children last. It’s less effort to simply sort children by age and it means they don’t have to deal with parents complaining about their kid not being moved up, so the system stays the way it is.

      • #86873
        Anonymous
        Guest

        "Underclasses" are the product of the policies instituted by the ruling class more than they are of the biological features of working people, for which there is no evidence that any nation is biologically programmed for slavery or servitude.

    • #86744
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes. Black people have been trampled over throughout history and this is never taught in schools. here are some other events you may like to read up on:

      >The Orange Cove gold rush
      In Orange Cove, California, Black people have built a thriving gold mine that had technology to REPLENISH the gold. Gold was used for everything in this community, like dental fillings, automobile repairs and lace on sneakers. But the whites moved in during expansion and bulldozed the area and killed the black scientists within

      >The Epcot Negroes
      On what is now Epcot, Disney World, Black freed slaves had built a futuristic community where the majority of them lived in large dome shape homes which cycled the oxygen and CO2 to feed the nearby mangrove trees, which grew large and protected the coastlines. Disney destroyed the homes but took the shape to design the big sphere at Epcot

      >The Timbuktu Historical Society
      In Alabama, free slaves had created a society woke af entirely around rebuilding the glory days of Malian Empire, and the city of Timbuktu. Lively civic debates in the great mud Mosque in the centre of town were normal and people lived as though under Mansa Musa. But the white hicks couldn’t take it and firebombed the town and use hoses to destroy the mosque. They then renamed it to ‘Athens’ as an extra insult to black history

      >The Salem Negro Trials
      During the salem with trials anyone accused of being a witch who escaped was then taken to court and accused of being a black man. The usual trial method was to force feed them 20lbs of raw carrots and if they didn’t finish it all they were killed – most black people couldn’t finish it because they are used to stews and other soul food which is nice and soft. 5000 blacks died.

      this is history

      • #86745
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >In Alabama, free slaves had created a society woke af entirely around rebuilding the glory days of Malian Empire, and the city of Timbuktu. Lively civic debates in the great mud Mosque in the centre of town were normal and people lived as though under Mansa Musa. But the white hicks couldn’t take it and firebombed the town and use hoses to destroy the mosque. They then renamed it to ‘Athens’ as an extra insult to black history
        Literal wewuzzers were going to create anything of value?

        • #86746
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Did you really take something from a clear shitpost seriously?

      • #86814
        Anonymous
        Guest

        My sides

    • #86754
      Anonymous
      Guest

      AYOOOOOOO

      • #86815
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Hahahahahhaha blacks really are delusional also nice wig she has on also none of them people in that pic look black

    • #86767
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >WHY DIDNT I LEARN DIS IN HISTORY CLASS?
      I freaking hate this phrase

    • #86768
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >so you’re telling me
      no way this is real. sounds like the we wuz post parody

    • #86787
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It should be expected of a city to remove wastrels and vagrants.

    • #86789
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Shit was bulldozed to make Manhattan what it is today
      Yeah, that’s covered in basic high school classes over a decade ago, everywhere in America. It’s not like they got into specifics, but America isn’t just a history of one Borough in its biggest city.

    • #86790
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Seneca Village covered 5 acres. Central Park is over 800. This isn’t a Bruce’s Beach situation.

    • #86799
      Anonymous
      Guest

      If it were true, how would you know its true? Text can easily be faked. Text is literally just typing something.

      • #86876
        Anonymous
        Guest

        By reading on the subject.

    • #86810
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They got their revenge by destroying western culture with jazz and blues music, so it’s hard for me to care all that much.

      • #86816
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Blacks didn’t make any of that

    • #86813
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/Ty0fOOM.gif

      Thriving all right. Mud huts and dysentery, we wuz kangs

      • #86819
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Damage control.

    • #86825
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Imagine the smell it must’ve been

    • #86837
      Anonymous
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      People who post Twitter screenshot or source garden gnomepedia need to be perma-banned.

    • #86856
      Anonymous
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      >Is this true?

      yes. it’s idyllic perfect has been surpassed only by liberia

      • #86858
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >liberia
        Which was idyllic perfect til Whitey pulled us coup led by Samuel Doe.

    • #86871
      Anonymous
      Guest

      as soon as black people are mentioned LULZ just becomes scrotebrained

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