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is there a better language than C++
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rust
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chud detected
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I just want to talk about technology
Can we talk about technology please-
wrong board buddy
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get the fuck out newscrote
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U jelly
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holy cope, good luck with the mental illness anon
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fippybippy.
Rust is C++ but better, so that should speak to the quality of C++. I still freaking hate rust though because bring better than Sepples isn’t exactly a measure for being good. Rust is still a very ugly language and the computer supports compilation for too few platforms.>microsoft’s idiotic java ripoff
Lmao, freaking moron.This
BINGO, GIVE THIS MAN A PRIZE.
The best language of all time is C.-
No, there is not a single language that beats C++ for what it was designed to be.
Though brainlets are too stupid to understand it.>Rust is C++ but better, so that should speak to the quality of C++.
Come back when Rust has at least 10 years of backward compatibility.-
>Come back when Rust has at least 10 years of backward compatibility.
So in four years?-
>He doesn’t know
Rust had plenty of breaking changes since 1.0 release.-
Rust has two breaking changes since 1.0 and one is not even stable. Show us these changes.
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So you just admitted there was breaking changes?
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>>plenty of breaking changes
>one breaking change
I guess you are high now-
>Breaking change every 3 years
>not plenty
Ok fren-
List them
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You know about them yourself
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The only change I know in the past years is that now it’s an error to omit `dyn` in Rust 2021. Can you list others?
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https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/RELEASES.md
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One breaking change since 2016, so I was right
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there had been numerus breaking changes since 1.0 which was the original point
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every single rust package that matters uses unstable nightly features that break every few months
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list those
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The problem is that the very thing C++ was designed for (C with Classes) is a terrible idea in the first place.
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explain why
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Object oriented programming should be considered malware. Fuck you, idiot, only an idiot needs OOP. Let data be data for god sakes. Must you abstract everything? Must even a simple integer be an object?
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OOP is about interfaces first.
though I guess you are just pajeet tier dev.-
>you are just pajeet tier dev
Tell me you’re a pajeet without telling me you’re a pajeet.-
You have understanding of OOP on pajeet level.
OOP is ok, devs are just too stupid, with pure procedural it would be even worse mess.-
You type like an ESL.
Procedural programming would not make more of a mess, you’re just too stupid to read a slightly larger file. Structs make everything simple. And OOP is abstracted to shit and makes larger binaries.
You making things marginally easier on yourself is impacting the final product. OOP is for lazy people and pajeets such as yourself.-
The fuck is ESL.
They would with less experienced devs, which is entire point scrotebrain. OOP is fine, Procedural is fine.
Just use what makes sense for what you need, that’s why C++ is superior to other langs, as it allows you to do what you want.-
>The fuck is ESL
English second language you moron. Your English is shit and it’s obviously not your first language.
>Use what makes sense for you
Absolutely not. There should be one agreed upon programming paradigm and procedural is objectively the best one by way of being the least bloated and filtering the most morons from programming.
If you can’t understand procedural, don’t code. Period. We don’t need OOP scrotebrains being allowed to code. They belong in gulags.
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>You type like an ESL.
Peak angloshit behavior-
We don’t want people who don’t know English first and foremost here. Go to a Spanish board if you are a Spanish speaker.
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>vote for pedo
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>Wake up
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>Wake up as an angloshit
Glad I’m not you tb.h -
Literally what is an "anglo"
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Rust is trash. C++ however, has serious problems. Unfortunately Rust solves none of these problems.
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>can’t borrow more than one element from a vector for different threads with ease.
Its trash. In other languages its just a pointer in rust you need some Arc::new(Mutex::lock) magic and there are no compile time guarantees i.e. the borrow checker freaking fails. -
I will never touch rust because it’s pozzed to the max because it’s developed by literal commie scrote trannies who slurp cum on the daily and make twitter posts about their new dilation technique or new fake tits.
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fpbp and /thread
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dilated and chudpilled
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post the webm version scrote
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Not that hard to find
https://trace.moe/?auto&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fg%2F1633680409036.jpg
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>is there a better language than C++
Depends. C can be better sometimes.No.
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Indeed good sir.
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English.
/Thread-
Woke af
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Literally the gayest and muttiest natural language
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Anglish
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good stuff
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C+++
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(C++)++ aka C#
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literally every single language is better than C++.
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Not php
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You clearly don’t know how to use it.
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Nobody does.
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C
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This.
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have you tried Common Lisp?
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>have you tried Common Lisp?
Yes, I have written in JavaScript-
Ha. Ha. So funny.
Getting into higher metaprogramming languages and learning how to think in them will improve your code in lesser languages.
JavaScript is scrotebraino-tier compared to a good Lisp.
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>Getting into higher metaprogramming languages
Like tons of other programming languages that were created after 1960.
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This is a scrotebrained reply, because Common Lisp is very similar to C++ in that:
– standardized
– old and robust
– Large standard library
– old school performance (C++ is obviously better)
– meta programming capabilitiesJavaScript has none of that you scrotebrain.
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Oh of course JavaScript is not in the same ballpark of Lisp or C++ in terms of robustness. But if you’re considering the academic use cases for CL (which you specifically mentioned) then JavaScript has those same features.
Also JavaScript has more reflection than C++. But I’m guessing you’re not familiar with C++ name mangling.
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No, JavaScript does not have the same macro capability. It does not have recursively structured link lists. It’s standard library is not equipped for functional programming. It does not have optional typing (without TypeScript)
> Also JavaScript has more reflection than C++
Well yes.. it is a dynamic language. If you are using reflection much in C++ it’s probably wrong.
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Common Lisp is nothing like C++. You may make it look similar on paper, but they are worlds apart.
>standardized
>old and robust
Common Lisp has had the same standard for well over two decades. without changes or revisions. C++ is now a mess of incompatible versions (we’ve had THREE of them in the 2010s alone). That’s far from being "standardized and robust".
>Large standard library
Somewhat, but there is no hard distinction between the standard library and the language itself, unlike C++.
>meta programming capabilities
Templates are a headache and an insult to actual metaprogramming mechanisms. The fact that SFINAE isn’t universally condemned shows how much of a joke the entire CS community is.But the most staggering difference is that CL’s features are actually orthogonal: if you don’t want to use some constructs, you can pretty much forget they exist. In C++, this isn’t the case. You need to know exceptions, for instance, to use RAII. And if you disable exceptions, you can’t use RAII.
Likewise, you can’t really ignore raw pointers because "this" is a pointer (the fact that it’s not a reference is absurd), and so on.
Hell, you can’t even ignore move semantics because, if you return something by value, the move constructor will be used instead since C++11, therefore you must know them as well.
C++ is a dead end. Sooner or later, it’s going to crumble under its own weight and end up like COBOL.-
I agree. Common Lisp is better for those reasons, but I was just trying to point out some of the attributes of C++ that are good which Common Lisp also does well.
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You mean C++ will still be used 50 years from know and the average C++ developer will make double what the average <language> developer makes? I’m OK with that
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>tfw C++ programmer who makes less than what the average <language> developer makes
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Yes, I too believe COBOL is the greatest programming language of all time.
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FreeBASIC
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Also my language of choice.
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Jai
Because it will never get out of Friends ‘n Family Omega Secret Patreon Pre-Alpha, and will therefore be forever a perfect and ideal language.
I just watched a recent-ish vlog by Blow and it was him saying he’s fired everyone that was working on the compiler and now he’s the only one working on it, along with answering all the feedback / bug emails
I get it’s his passion project and he’s a driven guy and whatever but at some point being a control freak and a perfectionist means it never comes out-
just as in Plato’s forms, perfection can’t survive contact with the real world
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Jai is probably just a long running prank. It never existed in the first place.
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I think he plans to launch paid beta this october (doubt he will, but we’ll see), firing everyone was long ago.
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https://i.imgur.com/FLCUinW.gif
UOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Objective-C
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This was implemented in Pascal
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>OPENSTEP
>Pascal
This was implemented in Objective-C
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Woke af
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Assembler
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Java.
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no
and there wont be untill someone creates Holy C++-
Underrated
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C++ is a garbage language. There’s half a dozen languages that do things better than C++. Granted there’s no single one that does *everything* better than C++, but I don’t need a single language to do everything, especially when it’s as complex as C++.
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>as complex as C++
boomer meme. all the "big" mainstream languages (python, java, c#, js) are more complex than C++-
Hahaha, no. I can grab any pajeet shitter and they probably know how to use 80% of Java at least, you grab a seniour C++ developer with 10 years of experience and maybe they know half the language.
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>I get paid by how many things about the language I know and not by things I make with it
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>I get paid by how many things about the language I know and not by things I make with it
That’s not what we are discussing here.-
its irrelevant how much you know if you can’t use it, scrotebrained scrote
>hurr durr you can’t figure out this obscure irrelevant thing that’s not even relevant today therefore ur lang sux-
>discussing the complexity of a language
>NO IF I DON’T USE THE FEATURES THEN THE LANGUAGE IS SIMPLE AND I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF IT
Fuck off-
>whether I know majority of it or not matters because it does okay?
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The argument has never been about if it matters or not.
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Now it is, you scrotebrained garden gnome.
It is irrelevant how much you know of the language, only what you can do with it, in which case C++ BTFO’s everything and you will forever cope about it, chud -
Get help schizo
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no they aren’t
true C++ has LOTS of features, if you use them all willy nilly the program will probably be shit, too btw
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This isn’t true at all, ESPECIALLY Java.
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Absolutely not. The depths of C++ that I have seen do not compare. It is a gargantuan nightmare.
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You’ve never tried working with memory related JVM bugs then. Too bad.
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>JVM bugs
>Groovy+Java interop problems
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And none of them will ever replace C++ because they are also crap but in totally different ways.
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No other language matches C++ in speed and ease of use.
Everything has been done for you, you just stich it together.-
It’s the stitching together that is the the hard part.
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There’s one better, C+=2
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this is a dumb joke, but I chuckled
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Space indents are a hard no.
Considering your benchmark is Indian developers (IQ of India is about 85) I look at this as a plus.
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cum
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Nim(rod)
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slow
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i dont think so
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I’ve been trying to get into Nim and Zig. Are there any actual programmers here who can tell me which one should I invest more into? Or are you all just silly larpers?
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no jobs or future with either of those
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I’m self employed and can choose the most productive and powerful language and change it at will. Most of my stuff is running a separate process to handles data through IPC.
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>I’m self employed
>solve real problems
>but I’m spending my time on LULZ and meme languages instead of maximizing profits and retiring instead of LARPing
>t.-
I’m selling a software product, which means everything is automated and I can do whatever the fuck I want whenever the fuck I want. Already making more than the median wage per month "passively". Only actual work I have to do is maintenance if any issues pop up, which is not that often. Of course also developing future products. Other than that, seems you don’t understand the world outside the context of a "job".
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You made an excellent argument explaining why paying for software is scrotebrained.
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You don’t understand neither risk nor innovation.
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GPT post no. 24234523
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>Yes that’s right ladies and gentlemen, I work for free. If anyone wants me to work for you just dm me and I’ll turn up FOR FREE.
>That’s right, FREE. Need your toilet unclogged? Call me for FREE. Need a cucumber pulled out of your arse? Call me, I’m FREE.
>How do I live you ask? FOR FREE
>How do I afford food? I JUST GET IT FOR FREE
>How do I afford healthcare, shelter or transport?
> I JUST GET IT FOR FREE>Unlock this today by calling 0800633554. That’s 0800633554.
>terms and conditions apply, entrants must be 18 or over
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why don’t you ask your AI which memelang is better for your LARP then?
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show me the way
desktop software? webdev?-
Find your niche. Make something you need. Share it with others. Ask money for it. The competition is lopsided to what is the most obvious and visible. Most people are followers so they try to build things that are popular instead of what is needed.
Just find your edge. Wherever it may lie. What are you good at. What are you passionate about? Can it be monitzed?
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>Just find your edge. Wherever it may lie. What are you good at.
malware
game cheat development
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Also good strategy is making something for free to others, if they can give you good feedback and are connected to a large network. It doesn’t have to be YOUR niche.
Make something that fulfills a need in a niche, then sell it to everybody in that niche.
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Nice larp
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What the fuck is that place? Hospital?
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In that case have you looked into Elixir/Erlang?
That thing is the king of message passing and concurrency.-
I need something that compiles to machine code without any virtual machine running behind the scenes. Like C, C++, Rust, etc.
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Why? Preference or need?
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I want a single executable with no dependencies (outside system calls and libraries) that can do IPC and can be run as a separate process.
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C or C++ are the only two choices. 67% of rust devs are using it for hobby projects and 39% have 1 y/o xp or less. It also lacks a mature tool chain and (to the best of my knowledge) is limited to LLVM. Also I find the rust community to be a pain in the ass.
If you want something similar you could consider golang. Although it does have more overhead than rust or c++
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There is a work in progress gcc backend
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Until they change the Rust specification or the community spergs out because someone said something "trainsphobic". Remember that Rust grew out of Mozilla.
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Limited to LLVM isn’t a bad thing.
GCC is dead as is all of GPL since GPLv3
LLVM targets all architectures that matter and left all the deadwood behind
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Nor are there any jobs in Rust. Nobody will admit to that. But all of these languages are effectively dead on arrival.
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this is easily debunked by going to any job listing site and searching for "rust developer" but people like you still post this shit
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Zig’s syntax looked a bit scrotebrained to me. Also theoretically worse platform support due to LLVM only.
I spent more time with Nim. It has better platform support as it compiles to C, C++, JS so you can run it (almost) anywhere where C runs. I had a hard type finding up to date documentation. Also, some parts of the doc were written like "Here is this algorithm in Nim. This is what decides how type X is treated" instead of a proper explanation. Syntax looked saner at first glance, but it can be a bit more confusing when you get into more advanced topics.
I also could not find a proper documentation of the internals, there was sometimes an example where they said that for example X does this under the hood, but couldn’t find anything more. Apart from that it looked like the more advanced language of the two.It might be worth learning zig if you want a better C and Nim if you want something more "high-level" without it being C++ while still having the ability to produce native executables and you don’t want to use FreePascal or something. You will also have pretty good interop with C as Nim compiles to C by default.
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>LLVM only
dude behind zig is creating his own backend (with its assembly) so supposedly it will work better, but even now zig supports huge amount of platforms
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Zig seems to have more clout than nim. I have no experience with zig, but once you go full identation, you dont want to come back.
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Zig is literally a better C, if you wouldn’t use C for the job, don’t use Zig, but if you would, it’s perfect replacement.
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>broken toy is perfect replacement for stable and mature language that works
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Both are memelangs with very little ecosystem around them, so using them professionally is a nonstarter.
I just program for fun though and nim is a lot of fun.
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Take the Go pill. Its like C but with modules and good build system
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c++ has modules
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Which version?
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c++ 20
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Won’t be seen in production for at least 5 years.
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not my problem i use them all the time instead of the cringe header files now
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Just because you FizzBuzz all the time in C++20 now doesn’t mean anyone is using it right now.
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On Linux or on Windows?
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>garbage collected
Fuck off, it’s trash.-
scrotebrain.
Being garbage collected is go’s sole redeeming feature. The language lacks generics, but dilletantes like you probably don’t even know what that means so you latch on to muh gc-
>Implying that everyone who codes and their mother doesnt know what a generic is
The biggest issue with Go is that it’s garbage collected. Garbage collection is slow and bloated.-
Not interested in your dilletante programming socks tier opinions tb.h
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No one asked lol
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Seethe
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Projection
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GC isn’t slow, it’s difficult to optimize for latency. Learn the difference between throughput and latency
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Imagine being so cucked by shitty tools that you’d accept a language without generics just to escape.
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coming soon to the official build and already working in the dev builds
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>>javascript syntax
Javascript syntax is a C-like syntax scrotebrain
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>just learn go
>the only GC language that isn’t memory safe
top kek, here is (You)
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Delphi / Free Pascal
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classical latin… jk jk, python of course for real tho famalam it’s python
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SQL
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What happened to her?
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she installed gentoo
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he got knocked the fuggout
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i nakadashi’d her
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You can’t even write an interrupt routine in Haskell, you little scrote. Do you even know what an interrupt routine is, you little scrote? I bet not. Because you’re a scrote.
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very cool terry, but do you know what a monad is?
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Actually yes, you can.
Your idol was always an ignorant scrote: https://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/reduceron/Sure thats cool and all but call me when Haskell gets malloc and stops being garbage (collected)
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Having written digital circuits in scala (chisel) I can’t imagine writing an interrupt handler in haskell being too difficult. The caveat is having to emit code in a different language, but this isn’t as hard as you’ve been conditioned to get think by the sub-par tools of the C++ variety.
I’d still do it in C++ mind you
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I-I don’t know what an interrupt routine is
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it’s just a terry davis pasta, don’t worry
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Actually yes, you can.
Your idol was always an ignorant scrote: https://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/reduceron/
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>haskell
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I’m targeting a new backend in LLVM and I just cannot emphasize how much I hate everything about C++. Thankfully LLVM is pretty well designed, and the sequential pass model of compliers means we don’t have to deal with lifetimes, but it’s still, frankly a quite pathetic language as a whole.
I really wonder what sort of experience the people who praise it on LULZ has. My guess is not much.
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C++ is only hard if you have no understanding of how computers work.
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this is like the 10000th time a thread with this exact topic has been made
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so whats the answer?
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depends
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alright lets say i want to create software. what should i use?
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The language you like and has some support
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Does Rust have any stable GUI libraries yet?
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gtk-rs if you want declarative, otherwise egui, iced for immediate
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Cringe chud pushing xer views on othersi’m a 6’2” white man who is proud of being a man
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OpenGL and Vulkan exist on pretty much all languages.
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Why do men look like this?
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decades of social engineering
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To get lady like that. tbh I might enjoy the club if that’s the reward
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how
dude must be rich
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The value of a man isn’t determined by his looks
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or ability to form a coherent sentence, evidently.
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woke af Zizek
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Is that the Marvel New Heroes scrote?
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Why is he wearing her glasses???
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Objective-C++
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B++
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Why not D++
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Good morning sir, Java, sir.
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C#. Simple as.
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C
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god i want to fuck miyu
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I get that some of you fuckers need like, lambdas and closures and shit because your problem domains are just *so special* but honestly for 99% of problems that need solving pick something vaguely C-like. If performance does not matter at all, go nuts. If it does, avoid GC like the plague. The end.
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literally any language is better than this dogshit
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As someone who has programmed professionally for 20+ years (yep):
>BEST LANGUAGE: C
Simple, no bullshit, requires actual skill and weeds out script kiddies and hackers.
>OTHER ACCEPTABLE LANGUAGES
>C++
With a caveat: don’t use all the freaking insane C++ OO garbage unless it’s a very basic thing that actually helps you do things. Write C++ as you would a C program but with some extra help.
>C#
There’s some BS and weirdness in this language but for the most part, again, use it like C and accept the extra weirdness it insists on.
>SHIT LANGUAGES THAT ARE SHIT BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW ANYfreakingWAY
>Python
At this point Python is so freaking entrenched and ubiquitous that you freaking have to know and be proficient in it. I wish that were not so, but here we are. It’s ass-backwards and its syntax is trash.
>JS
What a pile of trash. Just insist on using it by writing your own freaking simple JS routines that will do EXACTLY THE SAME freaking THING as the 5000TB goddamn JS bloat that gets loaded into every goddamn webpage by scriptkiddie morons to make it "easy".
>Java
Please let this freaking shit die why is it still everyfreakingwhere who the fuck wants this shit STOP-
Functional C++ is best language.
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>Write C++ as you would a C program but with some extra help.
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There is nothing wrong with this.
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good luck reading that shit 6 months later
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Is this a sample of STL? That’s not really a fair comparison. I actually find this pretty readable.
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But seriously, you should have known that when learning C++. There are some really deep rabbit holes to go down.
no that’s not the stdlib
it’s one of the many type-safe units libraries floating around
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STDlib or not this is really not a reasonable comparison to other programming languages.
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>it could be way simpler
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yes I will, since I wrote that code originally :^)
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Is this a sample of STL? That’s not really a fair comparison. I actually find this pretty readable.
This looks like its a sample of STD ratio. Which is template meta programming (runs at compile time instead of run time). This is not the only use of templates, but TMP where used correctly is invaluable for things like finance and scientific computing – and there’s nothing else like this available it really is one of C++’s killer feature. Yes, you do have to learn the different syntax and learn how to program in a functional language.
But seriously, you should have known that when learning C++. There are some really deep rabbit holes to go down.
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If you want similar OOPy abstraction with faster dev speed, Ruby.
If you want low-level speed with portability, C.
If you need every last bit of speed and can stand an order of magnitude more development time, Assembly.
If you want weird academic use cases, Prolog.Java is shit and hell and why I don’t work at IBM any more.
C# is MS’s Java wannabe.
C++ is good if you really wanna do OOP, I’d just recommend against it.Rust and Go are corporate scrotery that have some marginally-useful edge cases and might be worth a look, but ultimately, C will be the golden standard they are measured by.
These days, PostgreSQL pays my bills more than any of these.
>MP where used correctly is invaluable for things like finance and scientific computing – and there’s nothing else like this available
I don’t think you can actually demonstrate this, especially considering other languages like Prolog (or Lisp, Haskell) provide literal proof of what they do and provide all of the metaprogramming flexibility of TMP without the obscurity. TMP’s only win derives from compilation, and in financial/scientific contexts, either speed is not critical, or you’re passing off to a highly-parallel context to maximize speed.
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>TMP’s only win derives from compilation
Literally the reason why it is used. Read through your statement again and you’ll see how it reasoned through why TMP works so well.TMP is useful for these contexts because you can pass large datasets to the program to use at runtime. Without querying a database which would have storage latency.
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Missing the point. There are many other ways to "pass large datasets to the program to use at runtime". You argue like you’re unfamiliar with them.
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Nice try
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>If you need every last bit of speed and can stand an order of magnitude more development time, Assembly.
This is scrotebrained, the compiler can spit out more optimized assembly than even the most seasoned nerdsAlso what the fuck would you be writing because you can kiss any libraries or gui goodbye. The only time assembly is even hand written is super low level hardware manipulation as part of firmware/os development, not traditional software dev
>If you want weird academic use cases, Prolog.
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Most of the "C++ is bloated" spergs aren’t very familiar with modern CPU design or compiler design for that matter. "bu bu but my professor told me in 2001 that this kind of code leads to bloated assembly on MIPS machines"
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C++ is bloated because the bloat causes longer compile times even if you don’t use it. All the shit you can use isn’t necessary and you can do it better by hand for the stuff you do need, using most of it will multiply compile times further. People recommend C++ written in C but that is scrotebrained, ditch the bloat++.
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>C++ is bloated because the bloat causes longer compile times
Never had this issue as long as I keep my project structure simple and over using features like template meta programming
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If you think people call C++ "bloated" because it supposedly "generates slow assembly", you missed the point completely.
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>the compiler can spit out more optimized assembly…
Tired old argument that is trivially countered by pointing at big packages. FFMPEG? GMP? Two cases I know off hand. Both use ASM. You use ASM selectively where you need it for exactly the use case I described.>ocaml
Decent alternative. I’m a student of Carl Hewitt, though, and Prolog’s as close as we get to Planner. Really poor for a lot of specific use cases.-
>FFMPEG? GMP? Two cases I know off hand.
Two performance sensitive (realtime and latency sensitive in the case of FFMPEG) use cases that have well defined algorithms. Not a good realworld data point.-
The thread is titled "is there a better language than C++", and you’ve just demonstrated cases where Assembly is better than C++. QED. That’s all I was doing there. I’m not recommending ASM for general-purpose uses, though it can be a fun exercise for specific cases. If you’re dealing with the hardware end at all, like an Arduino or whatever, ASM can be just what the doctor ordered though.
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C
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>Wants to know the best language
>He doesn’t know C stands for dicky
I quite enjoyed working with matlab because of how it was able to so easily manipulate large arrays. I understand it’s a variant of C but I have not found an open source compiler for it. As far as I know it’s a proprietary language unfortunately.-
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GNU Octave.
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python else just use c++ ffs
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call me when I can use Zig for an embedded project and not a small one, one where I have to use libraries provided by scrotebrained arm subsidiaries, if Zig can actually do that no problem I will bite that bullet and stick with Zig
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those cups have corrupted too many men
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XO – My own object-oriented programming language implemented in assembly.
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And not a single mention of Forth. Clearly just a bunch of programmers, not a true engineer in sight. Sad times.
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C
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>no generics
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Just use unions bro
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machine language
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no.
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C++ is absolute garbage. I’ve never tried Rust, and maybe never will, it’s probably garbage too. But C++ is pretty much full garbage, and doesn’t fix any of C’s problems, at least Rust tried to fix C’s major problems with memory management, extremely error prone concurrency, and shitty types, making maintenance a nightmare.
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Can I do generic programming without gouging my eyes out like in C++?
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C89
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What do you even mean "better"? I like C# much better for 90% of tasks because it’s far more convenient, but I recognize that C/C++ have some applications that C# doesn’t.
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