Is it possible that the limestone blocks in the Giza Pyramids were cast (in some kind of mold)?

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    • #201885
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      Is it possible that the limestone blocks in the Giza Pyramids were cast (in some kind of mold) instead of carved?

    • #201886
      Anonymous
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      no

      • #201887
        Anonymous
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        why

    • #201888
      Anonymous
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      so do we definitively know how the fuck they built this chonk? my liberal theatre major friend insists it’s common knowledge how its built and is nothing more than western (read:white) supremecism which makes us disbelieve a colored race could have built such a marvel.

      • #201890
        Anonymous
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        No, but this is the best hypothesis that doesn’t involve multidimensional atlantean ayy lmaos

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4&ab_channel=FehmiKrasniqi

        • #201915
          Anonymous
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          >this is the best hypothesis that doesn’t involve multidimensional atlantean ayy lmaos
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c
          Literally just a sis with some levers and wheels.

          • #201916
            Anonymous
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            cool, so they could lift a block with some levers and wheels

            Now, show me that at 3 blocks per minute

            • #201917
              Anonymous
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              https://www.quora.com/How-many-blocks-make-up-the-Pyramid-of-Giza

              590,712 blocks

              20 years (generally excepted figure) = 10 512 000 minutes
              20 years / 3 (8 hour work day) = 3 504 000 (minutes)

              3 504 000 / 590,712 = 5.9318 minutes per block

              Also your ancient aliens didn’t build so good. Why?
              Because with all their advanced tech they still messed up their first pyramid.
              See the second most ancient: The Bent Pyramid of Sneferu
              It collapsed in on itself and the architect had to lower the angle.
              The angle is 54 then 43 degrees.

              Everything you think you know is WRONG.

              • #201918
                Anonymous
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                >8 hour workday

                Try from sun up to sun down

                • #201919
                  Anonymous
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                  So therefore it takes longer per block.
                  It strengthens the argument.

                • #201953
                  Anonymous
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                  You’re arguing it was easier then?
                  >a peak workforce of 40,000 without the use of pulleys wheels or iron tools
                  Didn’t the actually big projects had 800k slaves with all those tools though? This only strengthens the argument that a sis with a lever did it, because now it’s thousands of siss with a lever each.

              • #201924
                Anonymous
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                I’m not argueing ancient aliens, I’m arguing geo-polymer concrete.

                This pic related

                yes

                • #201927
                  Anonymous
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                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2017/09/28/papyrus-reveals-from-where-the-rocks-used-to-build-the-great-pyramid-came-from/

                  White Tura-limestone, of the best quality, was then used to cover the pyramid core made of less valued Giza-limestone. This external layer was later stolen to use in other buildings. The granite used in the great pyramid was transported over 500 miles to the construction site

                  Reminder you can transport both ways using the Nile:
                  Inland using the wind.
                  To the coast using the flow of the Nile.

                  • #201928
                    Anonymous
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                    The quarry’s for the construction projects of the Egyptians throughout history are well known.

                    • #201938
                      Anonymous
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                      Yeah they used them for the foundation, but not the higher up blocks. That’s completely implausible and we know they wrote the recipe for the cement down.

                  • #201930
                    Anonymous
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                    The geopolymer needed compound as well.

                    One could barely transport a 3 tonne block down the nile when they tried, for a 22 tonne block, no way

                    • #201931
                      Anonymous
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                      Lets just put this into perspective.
                      Khufu ship size: 43.4 meters (142 ft) long and 5.9 metres (19 ft) wide.

                      Where was it found? The foot of the Great Pyramid of pharaoh Khufu
                      Age: 4500 years

                      • #201933
                        Anonymous
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                        As the documentary states, even if they could do a 60 tonnes block in that. There are other ‘rocks’ that dwarf these as well

                    • #201932
                      Anonymous
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                      But ok man, you know what, my interest is peaked.

                      I’ll check out the concrete theory.

                      • #201934
                        Anonymous
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                        The smoking gun is the paleomagnetic investigation of Khufu and Kafre. If the blocks were chiselled, they would maintain their magnetic alignment from the quarry, and one would find blocks polarization in many different directions.

                        If they were set as concrete, however, they would take the magnetic alignment from the earths magnetosphere, facing all the same direction

                        The found the latter

                        https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ibrahim-El-Hemaly-2/publication/258626055_Paleomagnetic_investigation_of_the_great_egyptian_pyramids/links/56bc3d7708ae47fa3956cd5e/Paleomagnetic-investigation-of-the-great-egyptian-pyramids.pdf

                      • #201935
                        Anonymous
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                        As the documentary states, even if they could do a 60 tonnes block in that. There are other ‘rocks’ that dwarf these as well

                        Sold. I’ll check it out.
                        How about this?
                        What if they used both methods?
                        Transportation and conventional construction and then also pouring of concrete.
                        Depending on the requirement and level of pristine-ness, symbolic significance and so on.
                        Also depending on the Dynasty.
                        As you are probably aware, Pyramid construction is one thing, but the temple complexes surrounding it were done at different times in history, rebuilt and so on.

                      • #201936
                        Anonymous
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                        yes this makes sense.

                      • #201937
                        Anonymous
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                        Concrete and machining to solar lenses?
                        You lost me.

                      • #201940
                        Anonymous
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                        No, but this is the best hypothesis that doesn’t involve multidimensional atlantean ayy lmaos

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4&ab_channel=FehmiKrasniqi

                        This pic related for chemistry and utilization

                        If you think that’s schizo, we’ve only just touched the suface of this rabbit hole

                      • #201941
                        Anonymous
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                        Reminder: You’re talking about the same people who didn’t know the maximum angle of a pyramid.

                        https://www.quora.com/How-many-blocks-make-up-the-Pyramid-of-Giza

                        590,712 blocks

                        20 years (generally excepted figure) = 10 512 000 minutes
                        20 years / 3 (8 hour work day) = 3 504 000 (minutes)

                        3 504 000 / 590,712 = 5.9318 minutes per block

                        Also your ancient aliens didn’t build so good. Why?
                        Because with all their advanced tech they still messed up their first pyramid.
                        See the second most ancient: The Bent Pyramid of Sneferu
                        It collapsed in on itself and the architect had to lower the angle.
                        The angle is 54 then 43 degrees.

                        Everything you think you know is WRONG.

                        Don’t try to sell horseshit.

                      • #201942
                        Anonymous
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                        It certainly seems like the knowledge was lost and refound in fragments

                      • #201939
                        Anonymous
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                        >What if they used both methods?
                        Evidence is overwhelming that they did. Certain legacy egyptologists stick to the quarry only theory and block progress.

      • #201893
        Anonymous
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        It’s pretty sickening how come the superficial anti-Western education has become.

      • #201896
        Anonymous
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        With ropes and pulleys.

        • #201897
          Anonymous
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          And what? Cranes? Ramps? Each of those would have been more difficult to design and construct than the pyramids themselves.

          • #201902
            Anonymous
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            Counterweight system proposed by Pierre Houdin.

      • #201913
        Anonymous
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        they had massive, massive whips

      • #201914
        Anonymous
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        Yes, very strong evidence for this. They even wrote a recipe for cement down. Look up Marc Davidowitz

        This

        no

        Idiot

      • #201947
        Anonymous
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        The royalty in ancient Egypt was white (greek / Macedonian), but the workers were "scrotes" . The people who designed the pyramids are most likely engineers from ancient greece.

        • #201948
          Anonymous
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          Not in the Old Kingdom,
          One cannot find a single bust of a pharoah that does not look black

          They were Kangs,

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=New0pTB6yDg&ab_channel=OriginalThinkingz

          • #201955
            Anonymous
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            We know Ramses II and likely Seti I had red hair and the Greeks describe them as being tanned like a Mediterranean, and not as dark as an Indian or an Ethiope. Some other pharaohs were likely dark skinned or black, possibly from Nubia, but we know that a lot were not. There were pharaohs who we have records of saying they wanted all black ships sunk or burned, which is a stupid statement to make if the Egyptians were exactly the same skin tone as the Nubians.

            • #201957
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              A narrative is forming in my mind, that the a geological event collapsed the global seafaring old kingdom empire in 2104 BC, beginning the first intermediate period. There was a pre-bronze age collapse. This began the flood of Aryan-Semetic seapeoples much earlier than normally attested. They infiltrated the Kangdom and began the culture of racial enslavement

            • #201960
              Anonymous
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              >we have records of saying they wanted all black ships sunk or burned, which is a stupid statement to make if the Egyptians were exactly the same skin tone as the Nubians.
              What is the connection between the colour of the ships and the people??

              And what were native egyptians doing while this facade of multiculturalism was shaping their civilisation kek

              As an Egyptian i find westerners unbelievably ignorant about our history it’s funny

              >As an Egyptian i find westerners unbelievably ignorant about our history it’s funny
              European history is mostly about Europe but the pyramids are so huge they cannot be overlooked, by sheer tonnage alone. Also, with some exceptions such as in the Balkans, history is not really considered important in Western Europe.

              If on the other hands what passes for "intellectuals" around here could recast the pyramids as an environmental crime committed by Europeans, then we would not hear the end of it. It is sad, really.

              • #201962
                Anonymous
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                >What is the connection between the colour of the ships and the people??
                m8 we both know it’s not about the color of the ships.
                Here a pic of the sandals of Tutankhamun with engravings of semites and black people, enemies the pharao would trample under his foot.

                • #201963
                  Anonymous
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                  >m8 we both know it’s not about the color of the ships.
                  I really didn’t know, I still don’t understand the terminology. Why bring ships into this?

        • #201956
          Anonymous
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          Kek
          Now meds are white, huh?

        • #201958
          Anonymous
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          And what were native egyptians doing while this facade of multiculturalism was shaping their civilisation kek

          As an Egyptian i find westerners unbelievably ignorant about our history it’s funny

    • #201889
      Anonymous
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      yes

      • #201945
        Anonymous
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        >he picked up a few pieces
        >Because he is a chemist, he tasted these
        Why do they want to kill off future generations of aspiring chemists so hard.

    • #201891
      Anonymous
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      I thought they were made of a geopolymer? Didn’t some french guy build a test structure?

    • #201892
      Anonymous
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      Yes

    • #201894
      Anonymous
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      Back in the 80s there was a theory that they were made that way. There was even "evidence" of air bubbles in the stones. I don’t know if that theory was ever disproven or maybe was never serious outside of popsci circles. I was also taught back then that the Pyramids were build by gnomish slaves, which we now know is complete nonsense.

      • #201959
        Anonymous
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        Yea cuz the garden gnomes would have built a cheap ass pyramid that broke in 100 years.

    • #201895
      Anonymous
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      Just want to slide this thread in something called aegyptian faience

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_faience

      A sintered-quartz ceramic material from ancient egypt. Which was built from crusshed quartz or sand.

      Crushing quartz, gentlement
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFukQowqGPg

      There is no way they didn’t know of piezoelectricity

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      • #201899
        Anonymous
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        Needs more cranes. I don’t know why archeologists deny the Egyptians such simple technology. Making wheelbarrows and such is something most agricultural societies figure out how to do so just to make agriculture more efficient. They probably had copper ball bearings too to assist with moving heavy blocks. Also IRL, the real limestone casing stones are several times larger than people.

        • #201900
          Anonymous
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          A video on the linked page shows them use what appear to be essentially hydraulics to lift the stones up into place.

        • #201901
          Anonymous
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          maybe because we have never discovered that shit smart guy

          • #201903
            Anonymous
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            >maybe because we have never discovered that shit smart guy
            >we
            You’ve probably discovered nothing and I certainly have uncovered nothing. Maybe only a few people have actually discovered or uncovered anything.

            Maybe no one discovered it because the Egyptians melt down their metal tools when the become old to reduce the need to buy more raw minerals and simple burn old organic tools when it becomes to old and loses its integrity because a rotting piece of wood or rope is still useful for heating an oven. What you see in the remains of old civilizations is usually a fraction of what once remained as good materials where always looted and reformed or used by their successors. That happened universally. What remains is either things that were deemed useless or unable to be retrieved and that didn’t rot away.

            Whether or not something exists does not require discovering something. Rather something like the pyramids, all the ornate statues, finely constructed pillars, etc. are evidence of a sophisticate technological culture that had things would have been considered essential for similar projects by future generations (i.e. cranes, pulleys, ball bearings, etc.) and the existence of such completed projects serves as evidence for those technologies.

      • #201949
        Anonymous
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        A video on the linked page shows them use what appear to be essentially hydraulics to lift the stones up into place.

        Imagine the immense hydraulic pressure and explain how this didn’t burst the shafts?

        • #201951
          Anonymous
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          Perhaps the shafts were made out of stone but there will would be the issue of pressure at the joints between sections.

    • #201904
      Anonymous
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      Reminder that the ScanPyramids Big Void exists.
      I wonder if it’s Khufu’s true resting place, with the King’s Chamber acting as a diversion?

      • #201907
        Anonymous
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        Or maybe it’s not a tomb and intended for some other religious purpose.

    • #201905
      Anonymous
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      Tell me about coral castle, how didone guy alone build it?

    • #201906
      Anonymous
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      Is the water pump theorist around or do I have to go to LULZ for an intelligent take?

    • #201908
      Anonymous
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      Not only it is possible, it’s definitely much more likely.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQk_yBHre4

      • #201909
        Anonymous
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        You can compare this to how well defined the joints in the pyramid stones are against how poorly defined the joints of the blocks in this experiment.

        • #201910
          Anonymous
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          If you don’t pour concrete in one piece, you will inevitably have the cracks between the casts, and then add few thousand years and you have that mess from your picture.

          • #201911
            Anonymous
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            That’s’ what’s been sitting beneath the pyramids until something like the 18th or 19th century when a large earthquake loosened the casing stones enough that they could be quarried. What you’re seeing there is what was never supposed to be seen. Just sandstone. Those blocks were quarried.

            • #201912
              Anonymous
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              >Those blocks were quarried.
              Is it somehow following from what you said before that? Because I’m not getting it.

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        • #201922
          Anonymous
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          • #201923
            Anonymous
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            • #201925
              Anonymous
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              • #201926
                Anonymous
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                Watch the videos
                https://youtu.be/6KUDu40BC5o

                • #201929
                  Anonymous
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                  Did they have machining?
                  I concede they very well could have.

                  Why?
                  Mankind has never totally stupid.

                  Concrete.
                  No.
                  The quarry’s are known.
                  The Romans are the masters of concrete.

        • #201943
          Anonymous
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          imagine the smell

    • #201944
      Anonymous
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      is this a LULZ raid

      • #201946
        Anonymous
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        the cement theory has a lot of evidence for it though

    • #201961
      Anonymous
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      Only the cladding stones on the exterior were cut to fine dimentions. The interior stones were (very) rough cut and quarry rubble was packed into the gaps.

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