Is Indonesia a good country to try for digital nomads?

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    • #57272
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      Is Indonesia based for digital nomads and general life quality as opposed to Thailand? Where to stay? I am looking for a modern place with good infrastructure and good food. Jakarta or Bali? I don’t wanna put up with Thailand’s requirements. Indonesia doesn’t require quarantine

    • #57273
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      Its cheap af, i hungout in bekasi, but there has been an increase in african immigration and students in jakarta

      • #57275
        Anonymous
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        Absolutely gently caressing disgusting idea to fly al the way to Indonesia to be surrounded by diverse folk…

        • #57277
          Anonymous
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          i left anyways mainly because it was too warm and crowded, it was funny seeing indonesian women walking around with a blasian kid, when the father obviously left lmao

          • #57301
            Anonymous
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            Surprised to hear that. Wouldn’t having a child out of wedlock be the end of their social lives in that culture?

            Why? Because you can have alcohol?

            Try to get a drink in India.

            so which is it then, do muslims destroy freedom or do they drink booze and kick it? retard.

            Accepting a law, promoting a law, and secretly breaking it on a regular basis isn’t what you’d call free in any political or cultural sense. At some point they should feel a sense of contradiction, maybe a desire to act differently or to change the law, but they don’t.

            • #57303
              Anonymous
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              >Try to get a drink in India.
              how come? alcohol is easily available in most places in india

              • #57304
                Anonymous
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                It’s not cheap

                • #57322
                  Anonymous
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                  Only if you buy imported booze. The local stuff is cheap.

      • #57306
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        where did you stay in Bekasi ? i spent a few months there last year, cheap place, nice food everywhere. I hungout mostly in Bekasi Timur

        • #57309
          Anonymous
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          I had a Batak gf in bekasi but she unironically left me for some black guy

    • #57274
      Anonymous
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      > there has been an increase in african immigration and students in jakarta

      Umm…okay. What has that got to do with anything?

      • #57276
        Anonymous
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        just thought i’d give you a heads up just incase youd get shocked when you get there

        • #57278
          Anonymous
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          Oh, okay m8.

    • #57279
      Anonymous
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      I went to Jakarta for a few days in 2018. While I normally enjoy concrete jungles, Jakarta was probably one of the most abjectly boring cities I’ve visited. If you ask the locals what there’s to do for fun, they’ll almost always stare blankly, think for a few minutes, and then begin rattling off the names of different shopping malls.

      Jakarta, in a nutshell, is an extremely boring, hot, humid, and crowded city. I say that as someone who loves places like Delhi and Mumbai and Bogota; but those cities at least have history and culture and nightlife, whereas Jakarta’s comparably bland by most any measure.

    • #57286
      Anonymous
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      I recommend Canggu. fast internet, coffee, surf, cheap fewd and cool bars..

    • #57287
      Anonymous
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      indonesia is a pretty boring country in general apart from a few resort islands. also there are too many gently caressing muslims everywhere
      malaysia would be a better bet. it has many of the same problems that indonesia has (e.g. pollution and traffic in cities, massive corruption) but on the whole life is a bit better there- there are still loads of muslims, but they are offset by the sizeable chinese population (and smaller hindu population)

      • #57288
        Anonymous
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        Thats good I’m Muslim so it works well for food

    • #57291
      Anonymous
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      Indonesia feels like the next great travel place, it’s cheap up and coming and so much diversity the only issue is the extremist Muslims.

      • #57317
        Anonymous
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        >extremist Muslims.
        99% of Muslims are extremist. It’s an extreme religion.

        • #57318
          Anonymous
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          What an orange-pilled thing to say.

          • #57319
            Anonymous
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            Its true, if someone is going to blow themselves up for a religion, its gonna be a Muslim.

            • #57320
              Anonymous
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              I didn’t say it was false, I said it was orange-pilled. Make of that what you will.

            • #57324
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              Muslim Malays/Indonesians, though not exactly that tolerant are by far the most moderate Muslims in the world. They are a lot more relaxed than Arabs and actually show genuine respect for their pre-Islamic past. It’s completely normal for Muslims parents to give old Hindu names to their kids for example and Hindu scripture, considered as a mythology of course, is rather popular as Greek or Roman myths are in the West. f course i readily admit you won’t find the kind of freedom you can have in other SEA countries.

              • #57325
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                wow so moderate!

                48% of 267 million people believe in stoning to death as punishment for adultery.

                • #57327
                  Anonymous
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                  again so tolerant.

                  For these two 72% of Indonesians think Sharia should be the law of the land.

                  that’s 192 240 000 people.

                  That’s 34 000 000 people that think death should be the punishment for leaving Islam. So moderate.

                  • #57329
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                    certainly in malaysia they don’t have the death penalty for apostasy, although there are a lot of people who would support it (it does exist as a statute, but is not implemented). but even so, for a malay leaving islam is a kind of "virtual death"- they are socially excluded, have their passport confiscated, are ordered to attend re-brainwashing sessions, and if all that still doesn’t work they still have to have their case heard in a sharia court, and if that succeeds (many are refused) they effectively become a persona non grata. many leave the country.

              • #57326
                Anonymous
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                again so tolerant.

              • #57328
                Anonymous
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                >actually show genuine respect for their pre-Islamic past
                no they don’t, they whitewash that period out of their history. they tolerate the orang asli tribes and their beliefs but they are always trying to convert them. try visiting the national museum in kl with a non muslim, they will tell you just how much of their history has been painted over by the muslims
                >Hindu scripture, considered as a mythology of course, is rather popular
                you might find a few malays who are curious about their hindu fellow malaysians, who are the poorest section of society and are routinely excluded from jobs and so on, but officially malays are deterred from reading about other religions in case it taints their poor muslim brains.
                of course it is permitted for muslims to proselytise to non muslims and put pressure on them to convert. the other way around is illegal. pic related, the back of a book i picked up in a buddhist temple somewhere in malaysia.
                religion and society are a curious mix in malaysia. interesting place. i spend a lot of time there.

          • #57331
            Anonymous
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            What is the orange pill and how do I take it?

            • #57332
              Anonymous
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              Take a red pill with the active ingredient removed, then play the game by your opponent’s rules. Always react to what other people are doing instead of making them react. Respond to things at face value. Have lots of "views," because life is a forum debate.

              • #57333
                Anonymous
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                Doesn’t make sense for the post then that you replied too.

                • #57334
                  Anonymous
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                  Religion can only be opposed with religion, not reason. Tell other secular westerners about your objections to non-secular Islam, and best case scenario… You agree to not discriminate on the basis of religion, like those baddies do? It’s like objecting to a football team when you don’t play football or even support an opposing team, i.e. it’s utterly passive.

                  It’s also looking at religion and thinking, "Wow, I totally agree/disagree with this religious thinkers opinions, let me write him a reply," when in reality religions fit the inborn nature of their populations the way water fits the shape of a glass.

    • #57292
      Anonymous
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      It’s cheap but it’s a third world Muslim country.
      There’s a reason people only go to Bali, or: the one island that isn’t Muslim

      • #57294
        Anonymous
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        Why? Because you can have alcohol?

        • #57295
          Anonymous
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          Muslims scary

        • #57296
          Anonymous
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          no it’s because muslims are pieces of shit who destroy any kind of freedom wherever they go
          also there are plenty of muslims around that area (malaysia, indonesia) who drink alcohol even if they are not supposed to. drugs too, the highest number of drugs cases in malaysia is in the malay muslim population (75% of cases compared to ~60% of population)

          • #57297
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            so which is it then, do muslims destroy freedom or do they drink booze and kick it? retard.

            • #57298
              Anonymous
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              stupid comment. idiot.

        • #57330
          Anonymous
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          Unironically yes

          • #57335
            Anonymous
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            I thought so, very superficial, but whatever clots your boat

      • #57300
        Anonymous
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        the worst part about muslims is the prayer call in the morning, or evening.

        it just fills the air with a sense of dread, and hopelessness.

        on another note, I found most Indonesians are quite pleasant people.

        • #57305
          Anonymous
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          This might be colored by my experiences residing in Japan but Indonesians come off as very docile in my experience. There’s quite a few at a university near me and they aren’t as boisterous as the Viets or as outgoing as the Filipinos and Thais around here.

        • #57307
          Anonymous
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          Sense of dread for helpless atheists

        • #57308
          Anonymous
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          It’s great if you use it to wake up at that time. Why wouldn’t you?

        • #57310
          Anonymous
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          >dread, and hopelessness
          Subhanallah, the adhan fills the kaffir’s heart with fear

    • #57299
      Anonymous
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      >digital nomads

    • #57302
      Anonymous
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      Islamic shit hole

      • #57314
        Anonymous
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        Literally, except for Bali. It’s like 90% Hindu and digital nomads run the island at this point.

        • #57316
          Anonymous
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          >digital nomads
          lmao more like sexpats, instathots and bogans

          I found a map of Indonesian religions and filled in some island names.
          Is Flores anything like the Philippines, culturally?

          Apologies for the small font, the original image is tiny. Try Ctrl =.

          tidak saya pikir itu seperti daerah lain di NTT kecuali agamanya berubah

    • #57311
      Anonymous
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      I found a map of Indonesian religions and filled in some island names.
      Is Flores anything like the Philippines, culturally?

      Apologies for the small font, the original image is tiny. Try Ctrl =.

      • #57312
        Anonymous
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        I have made a less awful map, but the base of this one doesn’t make any distinction between the syncretic and puritan strains of Islam in Indonesia.

      • #57321
        Anonymous
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        Why is that part on the right "probably not a good idea"?

        • #57323
          Anonymous
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          There’s a low intensity civil war going on. The government has been importing hundreds of thousands of Muslim settlers over the past few decades and the native Papuans have tried fighting back for their survival.

    • #57313
      Anonymous
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      Bump. I travelled in SEA for ages, but Indonesia was always kind of a blind spot.

    • #57315
      Anonymous
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      Theres no quarantine? How about visa?

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