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October 2, 2021 at 9:24 am #124153
October 2, 2021 at 9:25 am #124154AnonymousGuest
Are you not a teamplayer?
October 2, 2021 at 9:26 am #124155AnonymousGuest
>Gives me stress
You will never have a job there, that will never be your reality
Do you also get stressed when you watch Marvel movies?
October 2, 2021 at 9:30 am #124157AnonymousGuest
Here’s a special (you) for the for the special snowflake
October 2, 2021 at 11:05 am #124180AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 5:47 pm #124199AnonymousGuest
if only you knew how wide spread this type shit was.
October 2, 2021 at 6:01 pm #124200AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 6:25 pm #124201
October 2, 2021 at 9:28 am #124156AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 9:30 am #124158AnonymousGuest
Everyone just sitting coding away while wearing headphones. 90% of all communication is through email or some kind of instant messenger.
October 2, 2021 at 9:32 am #124159AnonymousGuest
>Hey lets all eat lunch together
October 2, 2021 at 11:39 am #124187AnonymousGuest
Looks like you havent worked a day in your life
October 2, 2021 at 9:34 am #124160AnonymousGuest
> 90% of all communication is through email or some kind of instant messenger.
But the whole point of those open spaces is to encourage active discussions about how to make the product better.
October 2, 2021 at 9:38 am #124162AnonymousGuest
It just enables idiots on the team to spend their working day chatting and questioning everything they’ve been ask to do in order to feign productivity.
October 2, 2021 at 9:40 am #124163AnonymousGuest
No, it’s to save money on office spaces.
October 2, 2021 at 9:44 am #124164AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 10:57 am #124178AnonymousGuest
It’s literally just saving money. Employees take up less space with only a desk they can’t keep their shit at. Being able to expand without renting office space is a big bonus, especially in expensive cities. Artscrotes moaning about it is just the justification they tell the drones.
Cubicles are easily more social, they don’t stop you from talking to people but they do let you talk without annoying people around you.
October 2, 2021 at 11:09 am #124181AnonymousGuest
>Employees take up less space with only a desk
What? Your own desk? Do you think you are the CEO, anon? We now have "smart seating" here.
October 2, 2021 at 11:13 am #124183AnonymousGuest
so basically they take all the shit from communism, slap a "smart" in front of it and normies will lap it up
>dating apps that interfere with genetic selection
>pocket telephone that spies on you
October 2, 2021 at 11:19 am #124184AnonymousGuest
Ive noticed I was waiting in line way more often in America than now that I’m here in Thailand.
October 2, 2021 at 1:49 pm #124191AnonymousGuest
DESPISE this shit
Before I went full WFH, my previous company office had this after they renovated to make the space more “open”
No space for your stuff except a line of cubbies on the wall like we were kindergarteners and telling us “haha just sit anywhere bro! Gotta collab and be flexible!
Really wht would happen is everyone kind-of had their own regular seat except sometimes you would return from the toilet/meeting room or whatever place and your desk would be taken by some dipshit either chatting to someone or just sitting around.
Worse was when you would be sick a day and then suddenly it was a big fight to get your seat back, or if a new employee showed up and stole your seat.
I remember trying to be polite at first to people but quickly realized that you would just get totally stepped on and end up with literally no where to sit as many desks would turn into garbage piles very quickly.
Makes working such a pain because I’d have to waste so much time posturing or arguing about seating instead of working.
October 2, 2021 at 3:44 pm #124192AnonymousGuest
Capitalism does this
October 2, 2021 at 9:53 am #124167AnonymousGuest
Pretty sure it’s to save money and to make sure everyone can stare at everyone else’s monitor so nobody dares do anything that isn’t strictly work to ensure "productivity" remains up. If there’s anything good that’s come of the shitty pandemic it’s that WFH has been mostly normalized.
October 2, 2021 at 10:01 am #124171AnonymousGuest
I worked in a place like this before, managed to grab a desk with my back facing the window about 2 months in and pretty much never talked to people in the office ever.
Any time my team wanted to discuss stuff we would meet in a meeting area (sort of lounge type spot or a big conference room)
Only people who talked in the office where women/trannies who would chatter constantly and never get their work done on time.
October 2, 2021 at 10:05 am #124172AnonymousGuest
>Only people who talked in the office where women/trannies who would chatter constantly and never get their work done on time.
God this pisses me off so damn much I do more than several of them combined and no one cares
October 2, 2021 at 10:41 am #124175AnonymousGuest
Switch companies then anon
October 2, 2021 at 9:36 am #124161AnonymousGuest
And what about when you scratch your balls?
October 2, 2021 at 9:47 am #124165AnonymousGuest
Looks like my new office. I don’t like it tbh, too many distractions.
October 2, 2021 at 9:49 am #124166AnonymousGuest
noise cancelling headphones + adderall
October 2, 2021 at 11:00 am #124179AnonymousGuest
This but also diazepam
October 2, 2021 at 9:54 am #124168AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 9:57 am #124170AnonymousGuest
I’ve worked in both types of offices and now in a home office.
The open space office are honestly more for socializing and less for actual work. If your employer opts in for an open space office, they know what they’re doing, they don’t expect you to be productive, likely don’t even need you to be productive, they just want you to socialize.
October 2, 2021 at 10:07 am #124173AnonymousGuest
Why do people on the internet make such a big deal of everything? I’ve worked in a
>rooms with 1-2 teams
>different open spaces containing a dozen or more teams
>in an own office away from home
It’s 80% the same as long a you work. Granted, if you fuck around, you’ll become overly concerned with
Just get the work done, it’s barely 1/4 of your day now.
October 2, 2021 at 10:24 am #124174AnonymousGuest
>windows fully open and no curtains
>background and side light when looking at the monitor
>eye wants to close due to the ambient light but you need it open to be able to read
>migraine after just 1h
>macs are literally unreadable due to their stupid glossy screen
> noises and people talking
> interruptions from managers pretending to work and other ppl trying to increase thrir "visibility" to compensate for their low productivity
Valuable programmers are never going to go back to that. They are now remote, and soon the managers will also be left out of the equation.
October 2, 2021 at 10:47 am #124177AnonymousGuest
>too noisy to make your conference calls from the desk
>all the conf rooms are busy
>whore in next cubicle showered in her perfrume bottle, can’t focus due to boner
>smelly neckbeard in other cubicle
>you need to poo, get up, walk, all stalls full, back to cubicle
>HAVE TO FILL STUPID TIMESHEETS IN A STUPID UI
October 2, 2021 at 10:45 am #124176AnonymousGuest
most social creatures prefer human contact… ok not like discors whete you have people playing sport behind your back but not like a cubicle either
October 2, 2021 at 6:51 pm #124203AnonymousGuest
I like human contact in an environment that isn’t hyper competitive and filled to the brim with people ready to fuck me over any mistake I make.
October 2, 2021 at 11:09 am #124182AnonymousGuest
our company is forcing like 2 or 3 days per week to work from office.
i spend these days having meetings, and if i don’t have meetings, i just chat with my coworker the entire day. i simply can’t code with people around because i am an autist who has to speak his code out loud.
October 2, 2021 at 11:23 am #124185AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 11:43 am #124188AnonymousGuest
i code in my bedroom
October 2, 2021 at 1:47 pm #124190AnonymousGuest
October 2, 2021 at 4:22 pm #124193AnonymousGuest
I am seeing a lot of back-and-forth on this topic, but I really need to push back and raise some red flags here. Having an on-site office presence foundational to our ability to drive efficiencies in a corporate landscape. It is in our DNA. Sure, there is no ‘one size fits all’ silver bullet. MS Teams is only keeping us at a 30,000-foot-view of things. Being on-site, however, really allow us to get better granularity, find better directional-indicators, or loop back and dive deep into some critical issues on a go-forward basis.
I think if you all start spending more time in the office again, you’ll find yourself trending toward the positive, but you’ll have to keep an eye on the puck. Gut through it, reduce thrash, and let’s stay in lock-step on this. Yes, we will synergize! Given that we’ve been remote for so long it’s easy to forget the benefits of working in the office.
What’s the root cause of the hatred of corporate office spaces? I’ll put my layman’s hat on and guess that it comes from movies such as Office Space and Dilbert cartoons. But we all know that these are fictional spaces, and real office spaces allow us to touch base in a much more efficient manner.
I have to time-box this comment, as I have a hard-stop in a moment when I will have to jump onto a call. So, just one more point that I want to cover-off on: let’s socialize the idea of having more office presence and loop back to see whether we’re being more impactful. From a management standpoint, I think that we can get the traction to do it.
So, net/net, ignore the naysayers, sidebar the folks that are stuck in the weeds, and don’t waste cycles or bandwidth on folks that don’t align strongly with this mission. Try it out, and we’ll have another touch point in a little while to see if we’ve moved the needle. Remember, our north star hasn’t changed. We’re still championing our core values remotely and we will only do it better in person.
If you need me, I will be online again in a bit.
October 2, 2021 at 4:24 pm #124194AnonymousGuest
unlike phony old shut in capitalists like you, people actually works these days and not get BJs inside their own "personal space"
October 2, 2021 at 4:26 pm #124195AnonymousGuest
At my office management still gets offices. Guess they don’t need to ‘foster communication’ like the peons.
October 2, 2021 at 4:49 pm #124197AnonymousGuest
At my previous workplace we kinda slowly transitioned from a bunch of small offices into open plan.
The first year it was just me and my boss together in a room, blasting Pig Destroyer and Agoraphobic Nosebleed on the stereo. It was amazing, most productive year of my life. As the team grew, we had to stop the loud music, and eventually the room was full and we had to move. Half the team went into one room, the other half into another. It kinda sucked, it’s nice being in the same room so it’s easy to draw shit on the whiteboard and discuss things.
Eventually the project got so big (we were just one small team on it), management decided it was time to reorganize things. We got moved into a much bigger office, but we had to share it with another team. This is when things went to shit. Those people were loud and annoying, but at least now we had the entire team centered around a couple whiteboards.
Eventually it was time to go totally open plan office mode. There wasn’t even space to have dividers between the different teams. The noise was constant and in the summer the heat got insufferable, but opening the windows meant even more noise from the outside. Air conditioning didn’t work obviously.
All these screaming idiots. Some people talking all the time. Loud skype meetings. Even my headphones couldn’t keep out the noise. Horrible.
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October 2, 2021 at 5:39 pm #124198AnonymousGuest
>not having your own office
lmaoing at you’re life
October 2, 2021 at 6:49 pm #124202AnonymousGuest
>imagine not negotiating WFH permanently after corona proved it works out fine
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