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October 3, 2021 at 11:20 am #132527
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GuestA coworker of mine believes that this massive push towards electric vehicles in the last 10 years is part of a plan to condition the public into ceasing long distance trips, since you’ll have to stop every few hundred miles and take a 3hr lunch. The end goal being restricted interstate travel.
In other words, 20 years from now, if you want to go from LA to NYC, you’ll either need to fly (and you’ll be on a no fly list if you’ve ever said naughty things online) or you’ll need to apply for a passage permit to make a week long trip and get your butthole searched at 12 different border crossings.
Feasible scenario or nah
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October 3, 2021 at 11:23 am #132528
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GuestGlobohomo has been trying to restrict traveling since the dawn of times, because why would you just let your source of money walk away. But no the electric car push is not a conspiracy, just money laundering.
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October 3, 2021 at 11:24 am #132529
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Guestscrotebrained. not only are electric cars getting more and more efficient, but they couldve done that by introducing anti-emission laws for gasoline vehicles, or just finding a way to increase gas prices
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October 3, 2021 at 11:27 am #132530
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GuestWhat’s unfeasible about this is the /poo/tard conspiracy theory brain required to think a vast global government conspiracy is in place to restrict people’s freedom for some reason, and that this is a more feasible theory than governments fumbling trying to find some way to reduce CO2 emissions or fossil fuel dependency.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:12 pm #132536
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Guest>government conspiracy is in place to restrict people’s freedom
Where have you being in the last 18 months?-
October 3, 2021 at 12:28 pm #132542
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GuestIn a first world country watching anti-vaxers darwin award themselves en-masse.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:31 pm #132544
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GuestWhat is a PCR test?
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October 3, 2021 at 12:35 pm #132547
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Gueststill waiting for the mass deaths. Right now we’re living the blandest nuthinburger.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:10 pm #132557
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Guest568,000 excess deaths really did happen in the US last year, and about 500,000 COVID deaths reported by the end of December 2020. That’s not nothing.
However their statistics keeping has been so full of shit that over half of those "COVID deaths" were really caused by something else. Not only are over half the PCR test results false positives,
https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/27/making-something-out-of-nothing-pcr-tests-ct-values-and-false-positives/
But the test we’ve been using can’t tell the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza. So many of those people had the flu and weren’t treated for it,
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
Then when you consider that a COVID death is any death within 28 days of a positive test, the majority of these excess deaths are attributable to missed medical treatments. Consider that COVID is treatable and we’re obliged to pretend it isn’t, and almost ALL of these 568,000 were attributable to missed medical treatments.
And there will be more due to people skipping checkups and cancer screenings.Make no mistake about is, this isn’t a nothingburger. This is the biggest public health mistake in recent history
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October 3, 2021 at 1:30 pm #132562
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Guest/poo/tards are in favor of incompetent and corrupt government though, they get mad at government competence. It’s why they spend all day yelling at the EU (which is pushing forward consumer trust laws that benefit the entire world).
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October 3, 2021 at 1:34 pm #132563
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GuestCompetent government = communism, according to /poo/
EU is far from competent though, and all the former Soviet members are corrupt to the bone.-
October 3, 2021 at 1:43 pm #132567
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GuestI don’t live in the EU but their updated laws on consumer trust issues have provided benefit to the entirety of the tech sector and they have good privacy laws. That gives them props in my book, much better than US ‘rulings’ that literally always rule in favor of giant american megacorps like google and apple.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:53 pm #132576
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GuestThey do make some good laws occasionally.
But 90% of what the EU does is pump money around, mostly as farming/fishing subsidies but also loads of pet projects that leak money into the pockets of politicians.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:35 pm #132564
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GuestThat doesn’t have anything to do with what I said. Besides this bonked record keeping and doing the opposite of what they should be doing is a problem everywhere.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:02 pm #132581
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GuestMost hospitals are paid to label a patient’s reason for death as Corona if they MAY have been exposed to get more money. The stats are inflated from the start. Plus, the tests are not accurate either.
Most likely the vaccine itself does not do harm, but just keeps pumping spike proteins that lead to false testing and this cycle of ‘having to get tested’ and forces people to get used to being tested, or risk having a ‘low social credit score’.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:13 pm #132587
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GuestYeah, I knew that, also they will give a hospital $13,000 for a COVID admission, and $39,000 instead if that patient goes on a ventilator.
However PCR tests do not look for proteins. They look for genetic material, either RNA or DNA, and they take samples from the mouth and nose, not the blood. The vaccines use genetic material that encodes for the spike protein but that eventually breaks down.
The vaccine results in a concentration of spike proteins and thus antibodies in capillaries, such as those in the lungs. This is why people who get the shot become asymptomatic carriers, because they have antibodies in their lungs but not in their noses where the virus can still replicate.The vaccine is not harmless either. Spike proteins are not harmless, they cause clotting and inflammation. A drug that’s caused more deaths than all other vaccines in VAERS history combined is not harmless.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:17 pm #132592
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GuestIf anything, just avoid the shot, have your kids to avoid a "Children Of Men" scneario, and see what happens in a few years when the REAL results come in. Until then, I think its safe to say people could ignore it and the pressure altogether, despite what you might think. I also think the ‘paralysis’ videos are staged as well. Sounds crazy, but its a double-think take to only make Conservatives look stupid.
Stay Neutral, fellow Chads.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:13 pm #132588
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GuestExcess death rates make the covid impact quite clear. Especially in the US. Of course depending on how much /poo/aid you drink, all these stats are deep state propaganda and only stats that support the covid-is-fake theory can be assumed to be sound.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:19 pm #132594
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GuestMedical industry lobbying of government tops defense contractors, big tech, and oil/gas. It’s in their and their shareholder’s best interest to fuck with those numbers.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:24 pm #132596
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Guest>Ids all fake man
Where’s all the mega-corps lobbying against the lockdown? Oil and gas revenues have been depressed due to the lockdown. Padding your theory with more and more layers of "it’s a conspiracy" is desperate especially when each additional layer of sad excuses just so happens to be infallible.
>In b4 "do you really think??" "Don’t you think it’s a funny coincidence that.." and so on-
October 3, 2021 at 2:30 pm #132597
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GuestCapitalism and profits aren’t conspiracy theories.
>Where’s all the mega-corps lobbying against the lockdown?
Why would they? It’s in their best interest to let the small businesses drown. They have the financial and political capital to side step any restrictions anyhow.-
October 3, 2021 at 2:34 pm #132600
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Guest>Capitalism and profits aren’t conspiracy theories.
In which case surely the lockdown would have never happened because big corporate would have lobbied against it.No matter what happens in the world, conspiracy theories can perform mental gymnastics to convince themselves it happened because of secret deep state corporate lobbying. No thinking needed.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:35 pm #132601
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Guest>In which case surely the lockdown would have never happened because big corporate would have lobbied against it.
>It’s in their best interest to let the small businesses drown.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:38 pm #132602
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Guest>Lose trillions of dollars to drown a few small businesses.
Hardly anything even closed in my country that I can notice. Everything is back open again. Ironically the only things that closed completely were a bunch of big globohomo clothes stores that were in trouble before the pandemic anyways because of online shopping getting bigger.
Maybe a load of shitty american small business shut down.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:41 pm #132603
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Guest>Lose trillions of dollars to drown a few small businesses.
You don’t lose it when you take their business.>globohomo
how can you be this large of an apologist for big business then use that term lmao, bunch of stupid scrotes on this board -
October 3, 2021 at 2:43 pm #132604
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Guest>Lose trillions of dollars to drown a few small businesses.
Hardly anything even closed in my country that I can notice. Everything is back open again. Ironically the only things that closed completely were a bunch of big globohomo clothes stores that were in trouble before the pandemic anyways because of online shopping getting bigger.
Maybe a load of shitty american small business shut down.
No matter what happens in the world, conspiracy theories can perform mental gymnastics to convince themselves it happened because of secret deep state corporate lobbying. No thinking needed.
Same Globohomo Botnet Glowboy Shill –> /poo/
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October 3, 2021 at 2:45 pm #132607
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October 3, 2021 at 2:45 pm #132606
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Guest>You don’t lose it when you take their business.
Like what business? The only thing I noticed closing in my entire city was one pub. Though I’m told that may still re-open.>how can you be this large of an apologist for big business
Because I’m not. In your mind I must be a big business apologist because I dare question the covid-is-fake narrative. Even now nothing I say could ever convince you I’m not a bug business apologist even though I nothing to imply this. -
October 3, 2021 at 2:47 pm #132608
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Guest>The only thing I noticed
I don’t care about your singular anecdotal experience when looking at the economy on a macro scale. Go grab an econ 101 text book at your nearest library, read it, and get back to me. -
October 3, 2021 at 2:55 pm #132614
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GuestI read one. It says if the governments prints insane amount of money to stop mass bankruptcies then they don’t happen. Which they didn’t. Wallstreetbets got burned trying to short the economy before the lockdown. Maybe you were among them.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:32 pm #132598
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GuestCapitalism and profits aren’t conspiracy theories.
>Where’s all the mega-corps lobbying against the lockdown?
Why would they? It’s in their best interest to let the small businesses drown. They have the financial and political capital to side step any restrictions anyhow.OP is having a Glow Boy BOTNET argument with himself.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:32 pm #132599
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GuestYou’re a freaking scrotebrain, lmao.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:45 pm #132605
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October 3, 2021 at 2:48 pm #132609
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GuestNot OP, guaranteed. Glowboys Have Intercepted This Thread.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:49 pm #132610
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GuestYou’re scrotebrained.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:52 pm #132613
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October 3, 2021 at 2:55 pm #132615
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GuestOh wait, are you the glowmeister the other guy was talking about
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October 3, 2021 at 3:00 pm #132617
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Guesthttps://i.imgur.com/fzj2gak.gif
Nope, just an anon digging into dirty laundry because I’m bored.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:55 pm #132577
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GuestThough there is a clear ‘2030 Plan’ that’s documented, its clear that’s FBI type shit that’s just put out in the open to make Conservatives look stupid.
They have moved the goalpost literally every 10 years, but OP zoomer moron doesn’t know. Even the 2030 plan was SUPPOSED to happen by 2020, but they kept moving it every 10 years. Its literally going to be dystopian type shit but in the FAR future unlike what OP Glowboy wants to hear.
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October 3, 2021 at 11:41 am #132531
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GuestSolar hacks. Double batteries. There are ways around this weak premise
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October 3, 2021 at 11:46 am #132532
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GuestI’m not opposed to bullet trains honestly.
China has them and they seem to work pretty well.
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October 3, 2021 at 11:48 am #132533
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GuestYour coworker is a schitzo. There is a massive push to electric vehicles because they are far more efficient in pretty much every way. It’s not like people are travelling thousands of miles in their cars as a common thing anyway, and even that is possible and will become even more possible as batteries improve and fast charging becomes more common.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:03 pm #132534
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Guest>since you’ll have to stop every few hundred miles and take a 3hr lunch.
superchargers are a thing you know, only takes 15 minutes to get 200 miles of range -
October 3, 2021 at 12:10 pm #132535
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Guest>since you’ll have to stop every few hundred miles and take a 3hr lunch
>3 hours
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October 3, 2021 at 12:14 pm #132537
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GuestTesla’s are just datamining machines on wheels, when u buy one your paying to be a beta tester for their data gathering schemes. That’s where the real money is, look into ford right now pivoting their whole line towards the same concept. Surveillance capitalism.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:15 pm #132538
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Guestforget to take your pills this morning? The real galaxy brain take is our electrical grid needs the functional equivalent of water towers. Since it’s hard and expensive to store electricity "they" are going to do it with everyone’s car.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:34 pm #132545
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Guest>Since it’s hard and expensive to store electricity "they" are going to do it with everyone’s car.
That’s true but it will be as simple as getting a discount on electricity at certain times, and smart home chargers that take advantage of the cheaper electricity.
ie: you plug them in at 6PM, but it won’t start charging until about 9PM when prices are cheaper.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:18 pm #132539
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GuestAren’t you glad you posted this on LULZ so everyone can correctly call you a freaking scrotebrained ape instead of your boomer whatsapp group where you circlejerk your tech illiteracy?
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October 3, 2021 at 12:20 pm #132540
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GuestFeasible, ever heard of COVID-19 and what ‘the government’ (sic!) did back then?
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October 3, 2021 at 12:26 pm #132541
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October 3, 2021 at 12:30 pm #132543
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Guest>stop every few hundred miles and take a 3hr lunch.
Stop being scrotebrained
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October 3, 2021 at 12:35 pm #132546
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October 3, 2021 at 12:35 pm #132548
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Guestyou’re focusing on a specific trade-off around electric cars and then you’re assuming that trade-off is deliberate and with a malicious intent. i can’t tell if this is a troll thread or if you’re deliberately scrotebrained like most conspiracy types.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:37 pm #132549
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Guestidk about that, in 20 years time i imagine electric cars may be competitive if not even longer range than ice cars
not to mention the last time i took a long interstate trip i had to refill my ice car and take a nap anyway, since it’s just not a good idea to drive for 20 hours straight anyway (though i have done that, wouldn’t really recommend it)
having multiple drivers obviously can extend this, but you’re quickly pushing into pretty rare situations, most people have no desire/need to travel that far that often, and at a certain point it may even be cheaper to just take a domestic plane instead-
October 3, 2021 at 12:59 pm #132551
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Guest> even longer range than ice cars
Maybe if you are rich as fuck. When people think of electric cars they think of Tesla, but normal people cannot afford that shit. Even with the advancement of electric cars, they will never be as cheap as ICE cars, so normal people will forever be limited to driving tiny shit-boxes with 100 mile ranges.-
October 3, 2021 at 1:03 pm #132554
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Guestyea, i figured someone would come back saying cheaper models will likely cap out at only average ranges just to minimise costs
and i don’t doubt that at all, ICE will likely remain the best price/range ratio for the foreseeable future, possibly even into the decline of ICE vehicles
i understand some people will not like that idea, but you have to also understand that most people don’t need 300 mile+ range cars, long range vehicles may become their own category-
October 3, 2021 at 1:11 pm #132558
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Guest— like, the main advantage of long range for most people is simply not needing to visit a petrol station as frequently
with an electric car you charge overnight, you likely will never need to even think about its charge level in normal use, even with a fraction of the range on a single charge -
October 3, 2021 at 1:38 pm #132565
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GuestEven the cheapest most shittiest falling apart electric car will still cost thousands used. That is too much for many people, my sis is broke and could only afford a £250 car, he would never be able to drive again once used ICE cars are no longer available.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:41 pm #132566
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Guest>Even the cheapest most shittiest falling apart electric car will still cost thousands used
why? at some point eventually old ones will become worthless
and ICE cars aren’t going to disappear any time soon, even if they stop selling new ones, i doubt they will prevent existing ones from being used for a very long time
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October 3, 2021 at 1:25 pm #132560
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GuestThere are fairly affordable electric cars with decent range.
Kia and Hyundai make some for example.You do need to consider total cost of ownership.
Electric cars are more expensive to purchase, but fuel and maintenance is much cheaper.
They should also last longer, although car makers will always try to artificially shorten lifespans of course.-
October 3, 2021 at 2:05 pm #132582
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Guest> fuel
Depends on your mileage. If you do like 2000 miles a year, then you will never break even with even the most cheapest electric car. Also ICE maintenance is overrated, the engine is by far the most reliable part of the car, just stuff in some new oil every few years and its happy. All the maintenance costs that are significant also apply to electric cars, like bodywork, and tire wear.-
October 3, 2021 at 2:22 pm #132595
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GuestWho drives only 2k per year?
Get a bicycle instead.
For most people, especially poor people, fuel costs are a big part of their annual budget. – In France thousands of peasants went on months long protests over a small gas price increase.As for maintenance: EV’s also don’t have a clutch or gearbox – that’s where a lot of wear happens with ICE’s.
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October 3, 2021 at 12:43 pm #132550
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GuestIt’s not about making it slightly inconvenient since they can and eventually will put superchargers around hotels. Electric cars can be sold for more, and cost more to repair, even though according to one thread on /o/ cost about the same to make. And they really do pollute about half as much as a gas car over their entire lifetimes, which is good enough for politicians to invest in electric and ban gas. Never mind that 15 cargo ships pollute more than all cars on earth.
A car’s connection to the internet is FAR more likely to be abused to restrict your movement, since the car can be remotely instructed to refuse to start if you misbehave.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:01 pm #132552
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Guestyour "friend" is a freaking idiot and so are you
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October 3, 2021 at 1:03 pm #132553
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GuestWhy would the world care about US internal travel? Such narcissism.
Also 3 hours to charge? Stop reading FUD.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:04 pm #132555
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Guest>a coworker of mine
You shouldn’t believe shit from someone who works a job that requires a nametag and hat -
October 3, 2021 at 1:06 pm #132556
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Guest>more travel restrictions, especially for dipshits who can’t clean their online presence
>fewer tourist shitters in my area
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October 3, 2021 at 1:14 pm #132559
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October 3, 2021 at 1:25 pm #132561
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Guest>they
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How many is a bingo? 3? or 4? If it’s 3: Bingo!
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October 3, 2021 at 1:44 pm #132568
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GuestWish I had friends who came up with theories like this. The only two people I can call friends are normalscrotes
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October 3, 2021 at 1:46 pm #132570
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Guest>Wish I had friends who came up with theories like this
Why? So you can circlejerk about having a 2 digit IQ and end up having to take schizo medication together?
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October 3, 2021 at 1:45 pm #132569
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October 3, 2021 at 1:48 pm #132573
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GuestVery nice picture, anon.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:46 pm #132571
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GuestHow deep of a rabbit hole do you want to go anon? Of course this will all add to the monitoring of it’s country citizens. Electric cars will be easily monitored compared to a ICE and can be controlled or hacked if they want to.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:48 pm #132572
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GuestRail networks are well-developed in other parts of the world, so no. Not unless there were some unique benefit to restricting American interstate travel and not restricting European trans-continental travel.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:57 pm #132580
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GuestYou can still travel long distances with electric vehicles as long as you get the electricity from a hydrogen fuel cell instead of a battery.
Also this:
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October 3, 2021 at 2:15 pm #132590
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GuestHydrogen cars are the biggest meme.
They combine all the drawbacks of gasoline cars with all the drawbacks of electric cars:
– as expensive as the highest end electric cars
– range is meh, despite tanks taking up huge amount of space.
– can’t fuel at home
– hydrogen is expensive (on par with gasoline)
– maintenance costs are very high (fuel cells don’t last)
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October 3, 2021 at 1:49 pm #132574
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GuestI don’t think this is the case as this would have happened already. They might try to force a social credit score, but it would be BTFO’d by too many people before it saw the light of day. You have to realize that there are people in Congress that aren’t stupid evil Liberals like Nancy Pelosi either. Only an idiot that doesn’t understand how much oil lobbyists have a strangehold on Congress would try to fathom thist
Plus, any thread like this on here –> You’re A Glowboy. Literally every thread that mentions this always mentions "Muh forced carpool / giant commuter trains to Amazon hellhole towns". –> This belongs on /poo/, tourist troll.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:52 pm #132575
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October 3, 2021 at 1:55 pm #132578
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GuestRealize that you can’t start the car at all if the manufacturer/government decides to blacklist it, unless you replace the software/ECU’s with something that you are in control of.
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October 3, 2021 at 1:56 pm #132579
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GuestOP this is an anonymous site, man up and admit you’re only against electric cars because you mentally associate them with liberals.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:06 pm #132583
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October 3, 2021 at 2:11 pm #132585
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October 3, 2021 at 2:09 pm #132584
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Guest>since you’ll have to stop every few hundred miles and take a 3hr lunch
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October 3, 2021 at 2:11 pm #132586
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GuestHere are the facts:
The fist two nuclear fusion sites are already being built. Due to the absolutely precise building specifications needed, for example, some of the tolerances for level flooring are to within 0.2 of a millimetre across a 20 metre floor space, building is going slowly. By 2037 both reactors will be working and capable of supplying all the worlds energy needs. No more use for fossil fuels-
October 3, 2021 at 2:14 pm #132589
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GuestYou need to link up Anon to get your shit straight. Do you mean this:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/80062/jeff-bezos-backs-nuclear-fusion-plant-to-be-built-in-the-uk/index.html -
October 3, 2021 at 2:16 pm #132591
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GuestReally? Where are they? I want to look this up.
However two power plants can’t power the whole world. That’s ridiculous. To much energy will be lost in the transmission.-
October 3, 2021 at 2:18 pm #132593
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GuestAlso, these will be ‘deliberately’ hacked anyway. I highly doubt these will power the world since most countries will probably want their own. This is proving to be more of a Glowboy post with each successive post.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:58 pm #132616
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GuestNobody will want nuclear power as long as shitsrael has the backdoors and can literally sabotage reactors. they’re global terrorists that already have enough leverage over global society.
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October 3, 2021 at 2:49 pm #132611
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Guest>and you’ll be on a no fly list if you’ve ever said naughty things online
Dude they’re already tracking people "at most risk to the virus" here. By that, the machine means "people without the vaccine". That’s how bonked things are now. -
October 3, 2021 at 2:52 pm #132612
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GuestOr you can just take a train. Oh, you don’t have trains, too bad.
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October 3, 2021 at 3:04 pm #132618
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Guest[…]
There’s enough lithium to power the worlds transport needs. But recycling will become important at some point.
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