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October 1, 2021 at 5:53 pm #126147
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October 1, 2021 at 5:53 pm #126148
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GuestHaving the best system of government and a continent all to ourselves.
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October 2, 2021 at 4:36 pm #126226
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Guest>Had
Everything was over after forming a federal standing army and central bank in early 1900. Flooding the country with 100,000,000 spics, exporting the manufacturing base and going full Fiat currency guaranteed destruction.DoD, the ClA and the federal government actively subvert the constitution.
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October 1, 2021 at 5:55 pm #126149
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GuestAmerica was an irrelevant backwater up until the late 40s.
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October 1, 2021 at 5:57 pm #126150
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GuestWhy do you feel the need to share your opinions when everyone can see you have no clue what you’re talking about? America had long since surpassed Britain’s economy and was looked upon with great interest by many Europeans in the late nineteenth century. WWII (not sure why you are saying the late 40s) is just what confirmed America as the most powerful nation on Earth.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:01 pm #126151
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GuestMutt cope.
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October 1, 2021 at 9:01 pm #126178
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October 1, 2021 at 9:04 pm #126181
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October 1, 2021 at 9:05 pm #126183
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October 1, 2021 at 9:08 pm #126184
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GuestWait we are comparing the entire continent? So owning the entire world except for Turkey, Japan and Korea is less influential then seeing TMNT by Michal Bay on TV?
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October 2, 2021 at 12:21 am #126202
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Guesthttps://i.imgur.com/qR4AAta.gif
Today 750 million Europeans have an outright inferior economic, scientific, and cultural output to 330 million Americans.
Even after we rebuilt Europe when you scrotebrains destroyed it, you still get brutally mogged, the whole freaking continent, by a single country less than half your size.
It’s just freaking hilarious dude.
Now go ahead and tell us how great muh rome was 2000 years ago.-
October 2, 2021 at 12:41 am #126204
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Guest>Today 750 million Europeans have an outright inferior economic, scientific, and cultural output to 330 million Americans.
This is especially funny when you realize that the American economy is projected by even the most pessimistic takes to overtake the economy of the entire continent of Europe within this decade. If you exclude Russia, as Euros often do when Russia makes them look worse, it likely already has. -
October 2, 2021 at 6:18 pm #126237
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Guesthttps://i.imgur.com/RJJP1tX.gif
woke af
>Today 750 million Europeans have an outright inferior economic, scientific, and cultural output to 330 million Americans.
This is especially funny when you realize that the American economy is projected by even the most pessimistic takes to overtake the economy of the entire continent of Europe within this decade. If you exclude Russia, as Euros often do when Russia makes them look worse, it likely already has.lol imagine combining the economies of like 30 countries and still getting cucked by "dumb Americans".
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October 1, 2021 at 9:31 pm #126189
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Guest>Euro-cope with the fact that the U.S has surpassed every single European empire dating back to antiquity in global power and cultural reach.
That poster is scrotebrained but that’s to a large degree just a consequence of time, building on the institutions, inventions, globalized trade, etc. that had accumulated up until that point. America itself and its global power as know it would have been impossible without the modern developments in trade, ocean travel, banking, governance, communications, philosophy, capitalism, the industrial revolution, and so on. By the same standard I wouldn’t call the French and British empires plainly superior to the Roman one simply because the former 2’s power stretched further in an age where global power was far more within reach.
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October 2, 2021 at 4:38 pm #126227
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GuestYou know how I know you aren’t white?
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October 1, 2021 at 6:07 pm #126155
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Guest>confirmed America as the most powerful nation on Earth.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:16 pm #126157
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GuestHahaha no.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:19 pm #126158
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October 1, 2021 at 6:22 pm #126159
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Guest>if you only count these particular years and only focus on one aspect, the USSR was more powerful than the US
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October 1, 2021 at 6:51 pm #126167
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Guestits only early 70s because of nukes
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October 2, 2021 at 4:42 pm #126229
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Guest>*starves*
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October 2, 2021 at 6:06 pm #126234
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October 1, 2021 at 8:28 pm #126175
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GuestThat would still be better than what most other countries were.
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October 1, 2021 at 9:01 pm #126179
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Guest>yeah but at least
You agree then, that it was a backwater?
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October 1, 2021 at 8:50 pm #126176
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GuestRome was an irrelevant backwater until they beat the Etruscans.
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October 1, 2021 at 9:12 pm #126185
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Guest>European and in particular English institutions
>An incredible wealth of natural resources, not least an abundance of land
>A mass of European migration (the most populous country in white population exempting maybe Slavic shitholes)
>non-existent threats in their general area allowing them to take what land they wanted with relatively speaking tiny effort, dominate and exploit their general region and generally invest very little time and energy into warfare until well after they became the strongest industrial powerAmerica already took the leading spot in manufacturing around 1900
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October 1, 2021 at 9:18 pm #126188
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GuestActually made me burst out laughing. Yurokeks obsession with USA has left them totally delusional.
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October 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm #126193
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GuestBy the time the American Civil War was finished the United States could have single-handedly taken on any two other great powers by itself. Any "irrelevance" was due to its own isolationism.
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October 2, 2021 at 6:38 pm #126240
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GuestFriendly reminder that after the Civil War, the US amassed a large army in Southern Texas and threatened to invoke the Monroe Doctrine on the Hapsburgs in Mexico
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October 1, 2021 at 10:59 pm #126194
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October 1, 2021 at 11:21 pm #126197
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Guest>btfo a dying Moorberian empire full of shitskins way past their peak
Wow.
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October 1, 2021 at 11:20 pm #126196
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GuestIrrelevant yes, backwater no. Before the Mexican-American war it was really just an oddity and never would have been included in a list of the "great powers". That being said it was at that point one of the most economically developed nations on the planet, only the UK and the Netherlands had higher GDP per capita, but was less populated than Europe so didn’t have the weight of European economies.
I assume you mean the 1840s; this board is full of mouth breathers who only think in terms of WWII.
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October 2, 2021 at 3:05 am #126217
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GuestBackwater that attracted tens of millions of people?
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October 1, 2021 at 6:02 pm #126152
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Guest>How
garden gnomes began abandoning the british empire and decided to wear your country as a skin suit instead -
October 1, 2021 at 6:04 pm #126153
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GuestThere is something special about America and the American people. Simple as that.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:06 pm #126154
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GuestNo real enemies that ever bombed or invaded it, protected by two oceans. The UK had a chance to ruin it during the civil war but didn’t because (((Disraeli))) felt bad for scrotes.
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October 2, 2021 at 9:33 am #126224
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GuestWhat a missed opportunity that was.
And America would have no moral ground to stand on, too.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:07 pm #126156
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GuestImmigration
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October 1, 2021 at 6:22 pm #126160
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GuestAdopted industrialisation early, massive size full of natural resources and a huge population.
Geography is destiny, if America was fascist, or communists or whatever, it would still be a massive superpower thanks to its sheer size and population. -
October 1, 2021 at 6:27 pm #126162
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GuestGeography and natural resources. Massive population primarily from natural growth (immigration is overstated insofar as growth is concerned), no famines except maybe the dust bowl, which was localized.
Geography can’t be overstated. East of the Rockies is the best geography on Earth.-
October 1, 2021 at 8:27 pm #126174
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Guest>Massive population primarily from natural growth
America’s large population is not from natural growth. Immigration from Europe plays a significant part in it.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:28 pm #126163
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Guestother player kinda killed each other in two WWs
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October 1, 2021 at 6:48 pm #126165
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GuestThe 48 contiguous states in the U.S. contain both the worlds largest single amount of land suitable for high yield agriculture, and the single largest amount of land actively used to do so. Even at the worst of the Dust Bowl America had enough productive land to feed the entire countries multiple times over. And that land is spread out across a large area. That means if one area is having a bad year the others can take up the slack. Despite their enormous size Russia, China, and India have way less actually useful land. Most of Russia and China are useless wasteland like desert or tundra for instance. And what fertile land they do have is all bunched together in one place. So if that place has a bad year the entire country is bonked. The U.S has no famines because it is essentially built on the most fertile and most gigantic piece of ready made farmland on the planet. The U.S. could operate under any economic system imaginable and still not have a true famine.
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October 1, 2021 at 8:53 pm #126177
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Guestindia has more arable land than america you tard
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October 2, 2021 at 9:10 am #126222
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GuestImagine 1 billion British in India.
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October 1, 2021 at 9:17 pm #126187
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GuestAny?
What about one filled with so many immigrants that most land is developed into housing, which government prefers to agriculture as homes and urban development generate the highest tax dollars per acre.
Then while wealthy uses that wealth to import food grown in other places. Until society has most valuable cropland burried under urban development and depends on others to eat.The best farming land doesnt mean much if its all buildings and roads.
California is a great example of failure in the US to manage land development to the benefit of the nation. Able to grow more types of food than anywhere else in the nation. Making it uniquely important to the entire nation as the only way to domesticly grow many things.
Only state other than Florida with citrus potential, and without hurricanes destroying things every decade.
Instead becomes urban development for Mexicans and Indians.
The real estate became so valuable due to population increases in a short period that most of the state with the ideal mild climate was turned into homes.
The best places to grown oranges, avacados, strawberries, etc etc all turned into homes and urban development. The rest of the USA cannot grow half of what CA can.
It was flooded with so many foriegners the water demand also spiked to unmanageable levels that couldn’t coexist with large agriculture.You don’t notice because the grocery store still sells the things the US could only grow in CA but instead are sourced from South America and Mexico. The capacity of the US to provide a high quality of food to itself is diminishing, but not seen as important sonce so wealthy it can just import. Eventually when less wealthy and able to import less and overpopulated that will sting more.
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October 1, 2021 at 9:40 pm #126190
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GuestAlso don’t forget the Irish starved to death while growing more food than they could eat because eating it was a crime and it had to be shipped abroad.
If big business or foriegn interests can buy your food or the land or control its production and the courts back them as the legal owners, it doesnt really matter how much food you grow.
China and others are buying up US farmland currently. Saudis grow animal feed in the US in places like Arizona without enough water and have it shipped around the world for thier own beef.
China does similar for its pork in other states.If you are for sale you really aren’t anything but a cog in the global financial system portioned out for others and can be just like the Irish. Your best assets operated for the benefits of others to your own detriment.
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October 2, 2021 at 6:14 pm #126236
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GuestThat is only southern CA, but California is still our leading producer of agriculture, and even if that was 100% true, as anon explained, the rest of the country would pick up the slack.
There really only is 3 major hubs of population in the entire continent where this will be a legitimate problem to balance. Of course Iowa isn’t going to explode like SoCal or the eastern corridor.
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October 2, 2021 at 6:24 pm #126238
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Guesthttps://i.imgur.com/ypj9edx.gif
Man, SoCal sounds like a clusterfuck. No wonder people are moving out of there en masse.
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October 1, 2021 at 6:49 pm #126166
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Guest>ugh, fine, i guess you are my little pogchamp. come here!
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October 1, 2021 at 6:51 pm #126168
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Guestmuh freedom
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October 1, 2021 at 8:17 pm #126169
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Guest*100
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October 1, 2021 at 8:18 pm #126170
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GuestIt’s about to an end tho, enjoy its few last years
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October 1, 2021 at 9:14 pm #126186
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GuestTerrible how few of them are wearing masks
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October 1, 2021 at 8:21 pm #126171
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Guest>Becomes a shithole in just a few years
>Generals openly say they’d warn the Chinese of attack
>Send all of their manufacturing to china
>Gear their media to constantly shit on the working class people that built the country
>Approaching Brazilian levels of crime rates
>Turns middle class into pay pigs for the rich and the poorYes, if you can say one good thing about America is it is the only functioning communist government. People on welfare in America live better than a middle class family in Portugal.
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October 1, 2021 at 11:41 pm #126199
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Guest>Approaching Brazilian levels of crime rates
The safest state in Brazil still has a higher murder rate than the most dangerous American state. The total number of murders in Brazil is equal to all of the northern hemisphere (civilian murders, not insurgency or military actions) plus a few other in the southern hemisphere-
October 1, 2021 at 11:54 pm #126201
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GuestThat’s because they aren’t cucks like you
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October 1, 2021 at 8:25 pm #126172
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GuestFree real estate and no serious competition.
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October 1, 2021 at 8:26 pm #126173
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Guest>Weak as fuck neighbors
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October 1, 2021 at 9:04 pm #126182
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Guest>lots of land
>any actual military threats are on the other side of the ocean
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October 1, 2021 at 9:41 pm #126191
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GuestThousands of miles of ocean between us and Eurangotans. Seriously.
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October 1, 2021 at 11:08 pm #126195
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Guestscrotebrain take, expected of someone that uses eurangotan. seriously
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October 1, 2021 at 11:29 pm #126198
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October 1, 2021 at 11:53 pm #126200
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GuestSaying America was irrelevant before WW II is absurd, no matter how much you dislike it. America was already a growing great power in the 19th century, closing the gap very quickly on Britain and France by the end of the century. The british already knew America would surpass them.
Americans sailed to Japan with massive steam boats and basically told them "open your ports for us or we’ll bomb your island into the bottom of the Pacific", effectively beginning the end of the Tokugawa Shogunate. The japanese almost felt like americans were aliens, such was the gap in technology between both countries.
Saying the americans were irrelevant before WW II is a good reminder that you should not take this board seriously.
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October 2, 2021 at 12:28 am #126203
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GuestNatural resources, advantageous geopolitical situation, inclusive institutions, attracting a fuckton of immigrants
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October 2, 2021 at 12:52 am #126205
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Guest>Loses to hillbilly sandscrotes that shoot themselves every time they try to operate a pistol
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October 2, 2021 at 1:02 am #126206
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GuestEveryone but Cyrus the Great, Alexander the Great, and the Mongols bonked up in Afghanistan.
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October 2, 2021 at 1:41 am #126207
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GuestThe British beat them into submission eventually.
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October 2, 2021 at 1:47 am #126209
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GuestThis doesn’t even take into account that we’re living in a time where human rights are a thing that have to be respected during war, Euros are delusional if they don’t think we could just wipe the population off the map and start a settler colony in the absence of modern ethics
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October 2, 2021 at 2:09 am #126212
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Guest>Loses
I see you don’t actually understand (or more likely are being a disingenuous pussy) what happened there. Please explain how intentionally destabilizing the region while sitting back in Iraq is losing when we have done this same thing multiple times. The fact is the world is America’s playground and we got bored. They serve a purpose as yet another untrustworthy border for the chinese to deal with while they piss what "prosperity" they have away being dumb chinese. I bet when we make them our bitch after they collapse again you’ll come up with some other cope for why we aren’t better than the rest of you.-
October 2, 2021 at 2:54 am #126216
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Guestprobably not bored so much as the wrong people can initiate conflicts for a wrong reason which ends up a net loss due to the fact the reasons for going in were poor. the fact of the matter is, even despite this, it doesn’t affect anything past the ol’ growing of the military industrial complex.
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October 2, 2021 at 1:44 am #126208
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GuestBest civic traditions (look at the British’s other successes) + best location and resources = win
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October 2, 2021 at 1:50 am #126210
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GuestRussian got completely buttbonked in the 20th century and Europe destroyed itself twice in the span of 30 years, leaving not real competitor
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October 2, 2021 at 1:58 am #126211
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Guesti want to SEX SEX SEX america
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October 2, 2021 at 2:11 am #126213
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GuestThe greatest race being racist.
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October 2, 2021 at 3:12 am #126221
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GuestEuropean immigration, unironically
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October 2, 2021 at 9:44 am #126225
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Guestgenocide
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October 2, 2021 at 4:39 pm #126228
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GuestBrain draining the rest of the world. Anyone with any ambition comes to America.
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October 2, 2021 at 5:40 pm #126230
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GuestAmerica was able to enact socialism better than actual socialist countries.
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October 2, 2021 at 5:52 pm #126231
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GuestGeography mostly.
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October 2, 2021 at 6:02 pm #126232
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Guesthttps://i.imgur.com/ZLAe4LV.gif
>European empires dropping a ball on letting the US expand across N. America
>Wealth of untapped natural resources because the former tenants were ooga boogas
>Manufacturing
>Isolated from direct attack outside of weak, cuck neighboring countries, i.e. Mexico and Canada
>Old world empires creating a power vacuum by overextending and pushing conflict causing global wars that was basically a self-inflicted apocalypse
>WWI and II was fought at distance, minimizing damage to the US as as country directly while also forcing Americans to master the logistics of war long, drawn out campaigns far from home
>Capitalism vs being a commie or soft-commie
>Americans just being better at everything in the moment, and focusing on things that matter instead of "muh culture" "muh free stuff" -
October 2, 2021 at 6:04 pm #126233
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Guestthe Louisiana purchase was incredibly shortsighted
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October 2, 2021 at 6:13 pm #126235
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GuestIt went from colonized to decadence all the while skipping civilization. It’s arguably propped up on stilts, the land will not prove as bountiful by the end of the century
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October 2, 2021 at 6:54 pm #126241
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GuestAccording to whom?
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October 2, 2021 at 6:28 pm #126239
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Guest>How the fuck is that even possible?
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October 2, 2021 at 7:10 pm #126242
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GuestDiversity truly was their strength after all.
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October 2, 2021 at 7:24 pm #126243
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GuestAmerica is the "old world"
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October 2, 2021 at 7:32 pm #126244
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GuestBy having some of the best geography in the world and standing on the shoulders of giants.
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October 2, 2021 at 7:35 pm #126245
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GuestGood geography, plentiful resources, and a large population.
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