How did the Irish manage to starve while surrounded by fish?
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January 5, 2021 at 3:00 am #58473
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January 5, 2021 at 3:01 am #58474
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Guestsomething something they lived on an island
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January 5, 2021 at 3:02 am #58476
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Guestalso while im here Scotland is just a discount version of Ireland
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January 5, 2021 at 3:07 am #58479
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GuestIt’s true. Scots are really just Irish people.
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January 5, 2021 at 12:23 pm #58495
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GuestI can confirm this is not true.
I am Scottish with Irish citizenship
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January 5, 2021 at 5:19 pm #58511
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Guestthe difference is Scotland has way better history and wars and were more civilized hen the dirty Irish and actually know how to farm and fish
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January 5, 2021 at 5:38 pm #58513
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GuestA potato famine hit Scotland at the same time and was similarly devastating in many areas. Considering that they did not endure the same conditions as the Irish, it’s quite shocking that it hit them quite so hard.
I don’t think you know anything about Ireland or Scotland.
read up about the ancient celts. They are literally wild animals who can’t into dignity.
ancient celts were cucks who raised all their children in common. there was no concept of paternity. They lacked any sort of roads or walls in their villages, (despite the fact that northern Germanics possessed these)
They were adapted to going long periods of time without food, and hiding out in holes full of mud. Basically they are adapted to a low-resource lifestyle where paternity/calories/competence is of lower importance.
You don’t know anything about Irish history.
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January 5, 2021 at 3:01 am #58475
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GuestWhy would living on an island stop you from starving if you’re a sick/crippled/old beggar with no money and no ability to work?
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January 5, 2021 at 3:03 am #58477
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GuestNothing wrong with the fishiys
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January 5, 2021 at 3:06 am #58478
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GuestExcept the fact that they still cost money to buy, anon
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January 5, 2021 at 3:08 am #58480
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GuestIf you really were starving you’d just steal them
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January 5, 2021 at 3:10 am #58482
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Guest>implying that’s not exactly what people did
It’s almost like you can’t feed an entire population of unable bodies on thievery
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January 5, 2021 at 3:17 am #58483
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Guestnigga take a branch and some string and go sit by a like lmao how tf you gon starve on an island nigga
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January 5, 2021 at 3:08 am #58481
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GuestWhat?
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January 5, 2021 at 11:50 am #58492
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Guestdude just go fishing when you are enslaved to the land and expected to meet a quota by working said land for crops during the daylight hours lmao?
dude everyone lives on the coast lmao?
dude when the landlord asks for more food than you’re producing, including what would feed you and your family just give him a firm handshake and say no lmao?Ireland was a net exporter of food during the famine
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January 5, 2021 at 12:21 pm #58494
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Guest>dude just go fishing when you are enslaved to the land and expected to meet a quota by working said land for crops during the daylight hours lmao?
The Irish have never been enslaved by the English>dude everyone lives on the coast lmao?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_loughs_of_Ireland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_Ireland
>dude when the landlord asks for more food than you’re producing, including what would feed you and your family just give him a firm handshake and say no lmao?
Just because you work at Walmart, why should you get to ransack the shelves whenever you get a bit peckish?-
January 5, 2021 at 4:09 pm #58500
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GuestYou’re trying to be clever here but you are only showing how little you know.
Yet again; the issue isn’t that there was no food, it’s that the only food the majority of people had access to was a single strain of potato-the Irish Lumper. Yes, people did fish and farm and herd cattle-in fact the Cattle farmers did fine. The problem is that they couldn’t just eat the food they harvested or caught; it was exported. They also didn’t choose to rely on the potato, it was in fact shilled en masse by the British aristocracy for years until they started doing everything including replacing wages with it.
Single strain goes bad, the horribly inefficient British farming systems in Ireland go to shit and there you have it. No, you can’t just go and start fishing because you still have work to do and if you don’t do your work you get thrown out of your home; there were many evictions at that stage. If you get thrown out of your home you have nothing, and absolutely cannot just kickstart your own existence by stealing from other people’s farms.
LULZ is full of retards.
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January 5, 2021 at 4:11 pm #58501
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January 5, 2021 at 4:12 pm #58502
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GuestWhere do you get the impression that the South is hated here? I’m pretty sure the only board that supports the CSA more is /poo/.
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January 5, 2021 at 4:14 pm #58503
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Guest>libertarian-left yankee anglophiles
What the gently caress are you talking about
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January 5, 2021 at 5:57 pm #58514
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Guest>horribly inefficient British farming systems
Oh yeah, it’s not like ‘the Famine’ was preceded by a quadrupling of Ireland’s population due to the brilliance of Britain’s Agricultural Revolution… lmao-
January 5, 2021 at 6:22 pm #58516
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GuestExcept the problem was that Britain implemented a horrendously inept and inefficient situation in Ireland despite demonstrably being able to implement better systems elsewhere. The "brilliance" of said Agricultural Revolution did not cause any reforms or changes to the spiralling situation in Ireland despite the fact that there was literally a famine in the 1700s that highlighted how severe the problem was. Despite this, the Anglo-Irish and British landlords/politicians refused to reform or change the situation and instead worsened it by the mass-promotion of the potato by the aristocracy, leading to eventual dependency. Worse still, a failure to achieve genetic variability combined with the said dependency-all existing in the perfect storm of inefficient and fragile nonsense that was the Irish Land and Agriculture Laws in the 1800s-and you have the Great Irish Famine.
The whole "Famine was a Genocide" is not true, but that doesn’t mean that the widespread starvation and suffering isn’t absolutely and entirely the fault of British policy.
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I believe solar scans on the lake in 2003 returned a report of a very large moving object within the lake. None of the monitoring equipment was found to be malfunctioning nor was there any error in the logging. The fish within the lake are a very old and rare breed (is that the right word for fish?) and so I believe the rumours are that there resides within the Lake some sort of ancient creature. Keep in mind that the lake itself is very, very old too.-
January 5, 2021 at 9:53 pm #58517
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GuestWhats the meaning behind the "Irish Morrocan Nobility"
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January 5, 2021 at 11:47 pm #58522
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GuestThat one is very obscure-the source is a 19th Century book called "Souvenirs of Irish footprints over Europe." It’s a book that-as the title says-describes Irish people across Europe throughout history.
One of said people is an elderly woman in Madrid. She was extremely well known, and owned property herself-she was from the southern coast of Ireland, originally. In her youth she was named Sheedy/(or something similar, I think) but later changed it to Thompson. Anyway, at one stage a merchant-Mr O’Shea-was a Merchant from Cadiz. He was descended from Irish nobility who fled to Spain during the Nine Years War. He proposed to her, but while travelling to Cadiz she is kidnapped by Barbary Pirates. She was taken to a slave market to be sold in Fez, but was then sought by the Sultan (Mulay Slimane I think). According to an article in the New Yorker at the time, she became his favourite among his wives-or something to that affect.
She’d go on to gain a great deal of influence, power and wealth before eventually ending up back in Madrid where she settled. Some speculate that for a roughly 40 year period she had a large amount of influence upon the Sultan of Morocco.
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January 6, 2021 at 12:01 am #58528
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Guest>The whole "Famine was a Genocide" is not true, but that doesn’t mean that the widespread starvation and suffering isn’t absolutely and entirely the fault of British policy.
The fact that this is pretty much as accurate as you can get with this many words, since you can point to Ulster policies to show they could do better even on Ireland or point out things that aren’t English fault but made their policies more dangerous, tells me this is either someone who actually studied history in their nation or a fellow also from the Isle of "Get gently caressed".
Since the amount of "Irish Americans" who make the mistake of calling it a genocide due not knowing the qualifications of that word are gently caressing annoying, even telling people that inform them the British system education admits to "Fucking over the Irish" but says Genocide isn’t the correct word that it’s an attempt at brainwashing and white washing.
Yanks who don’t understand the actual situation during the time no matter their feelings, "LMAO just fish", are tards who must be shot.
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January 6, 2021 at 12:04 am #58530
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GuestI am indeed from Ireland, Ulster of all places. I’ve studied the Famine quite a bit, in particular in Ulster where it did indeed gently caress up the Protestant population a lot-but it was covered up.
The only real way it could have been avoided is if Ulster Loyalists had been dealt with prior to their instigation of the conflict. The whole mess can be traced back to that. People make the mistake of blaming the IRA or even blaming the Irish Government of all people.
In reality though, NI was doomed from the start. It was never meant to last, and all the pre-troubles years were essentially just Unionists using stickytape to keep the car going-it was going to have to be massively reformed or collapsed eventually. But instead of one or the other, we managed to get both!
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January 5, 2021 at 4:58 pm #58507
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Guest"Oi paddy, you have a loicense for that fish? Gonna have ta confiscate that."
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January 5, 2021 at 3:36 am #58484
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GuestThe result of a lack of self-sufficiency. Imagine all the people who would starve if farms shut down due to how domesticated and dependent they are.
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January 5, 2021 at 3:38 pm #58497
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GuestI imagine it every day with great joy and anticipation.
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January 5, 2021 at 3:55 am #58485
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Guestireland is really just a small landmass surrounded by water
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January 5, 2021 at 11:40 am #58490
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GuestAs is Iceland yet all their famines were from the nature fighting against them.
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January 5, 2021 at 5:14 am #58486
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GuestWhy didn’t they all just go fishing?
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January 5, 2021 at 11:06 am #58487
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Guestpotatoes are racist
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January 5, 2021 at 11:31 am #58488
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Guesttbf most of ireland has pretty steep cliff faces and wouldn’t be safe for amateur anglers.
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January 5, 2021 at 11:35 am #58489
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Guestbruh everything is green there just eat the plants lmao it’s nutritious enough.
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January 5, 2021 at 11:45 am #58491
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Guestgenocide
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January 5, 2021 at 12:04 pm #58493
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GuestPotatoes were a monoculture because the ones transported from South America were all cloned from each other, 1 variety. Then the Britons didn’t want to aid and kept more eland and resources away from the Irish because of early survival of the fittest, lesser race nonsense and population balancing itself out naturally.
If early Irish nobles didn’t side with the Britons and they transported more than 1 of the potato types (Like thousands of varieties in south America) and their population increase dependent on a monoculture crop didn’t happen they wouldn’t have starved.
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January 5, 2021 at 2:45 pm #58496
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January 5, 2021 at 3:39 pm #58498
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Guest>Irish American
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January 5, 2021 at 4:42 pm #58504
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GuestThis is a gently caressing treasure trove
Where in gods name did you get it-
January 5, 2021 at 5:35 pm #58512
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January 5, 2021 at 6:10 pm #58515
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Guestcool, so whats the story about Muckross Lake. Been there many times but never heard any conspiracy about it
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January 5, 2021 at 10:33 pm #58521
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Guestpls explain Irish-Moroccan nobility
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January 6, 2021 at 3:06 am #58531
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GuestDoes the Irish Parliamentary Sex Scandal refer to the fall of Charles Parnell?
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January 5, 2021 at 11:51 pm #58524
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GuestIrish Americans know literally nothing about Ireland. They just assume they do cause they think memories pass through the DNA. Even The Troubles is too much for them.
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January 5, 2021 at 11:52 pm #58525
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GuestI put the Troubles there because it’s usually what they refer to when they say stuff like the IRA, car bombs and so on. Arguably the Troubles fits on about 5 different levels of convoluted shithousery.
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January 6, 2021 at 12:02 am #58529
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GuestFucked over politics in NI for the rest of time.
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January 5, 2021 at 11:54 pm #58526
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January 5, 2021 at 11:58 pm #58527
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GuestI made a thread about it quite some time ago!
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/6931603/#q6931603
It 404’d. But maybe it’ll get some use now.Basically, the Irish Crown garden gnomeels vanished in July 1907 from a safe in Dublin Castle. There are several suspects, but there’s no proof pointing to anyone.
One of the most widely accepted theories is that the true fate of the garden gnomeels was covered up, because revealing what happened would also reveal a massive homosexual orgy ring that was active within Dublin Castle at the time.
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January 5, 2021 at 4:54 pm #58506
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Guestread up about the ancient celts. They are literally wild animals who can’t into dignity.
ancient celts were cucks who raised all their children in common. there was no concept of paternity. They lacked any sort of roads or walls in their villages, (despite the fact that northern Germanics possessed these)
They were adapted to going long periods of time without food, and hiding out in holes full of mud. Basically they are adapted to a low-resource lifestyle where paternity/calories/competence is of lower importance.
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January 5, 2021 at 5:12 pm #58510
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GuestIrish Famine reminds me of this video for some reason. Sound warning.
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January 5, 2021 at 10:27 pm #58519
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January 5, 2021 at 11:50 pm #58523
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GuestIsn’t that about Britons?
What did the Irish eat before potato arrived from the Americas?
Lots of things. Grain products and butter were staples. Fish for fishing communities of course, but grain crops remained enormously important. The potato became commonplace in Ireland toward the end of the 1600s, but was mostly just a side rather than a staple. It was a massive campaign by the landowners and members of the aristocracy that caused to be used to the point of dependency.
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January 5, 2021 at 10:31 pm #58520
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GuestWhat did the Irish eat before potato arrived from the Americas?
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