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here’s a CRT doing 4k
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nice dead pixels scrote hahahahaha
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I’m not OP.
But it’s my picture.
Yes it’s a 2003 $800 CCD, the dead pixels add soul
Also that text looks horrendous, looks like the monitor cannot cope with displaying such fine detail despite taking the signal you’re force-feeding into it.
It’s interlaced only because I don’t have a DAC capable of 550mhz. This monitor can sync to proper 2160p60hz, but interalced 84hz doesn’t flicker so it’s better anyway.
>You’re also only displaying half the pixels at a time
Doesn’t really matter, you see it in full fidelity. You can call it 42hz if that makes you feel better.As for the seething about quality, it’s a 20" monitor from 2002, give it some slack holy crap, though fuck you OP for making this thread.
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Pointing out an extremely obvious flaw is "seething?" How butthurt are you?
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The picture doesn’t do it favors, but it still looks much better than I could have imagined. Cramming 4k to a CRT and tiny bitmap fonts are still perfectly legibile? That’s crazy.
Complaining it’s not as sharp as your LCD is like calling Cirno dumb, no shit Shiki!
>I’m not OP.
Funny it didn’t show a fresh IP in the thread when you posted that.I have a (6) on my screen on my post. I know I can’t expect any benefit of the doubt here, why would I post this? OP is a massive baka
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>I’m not OP.
Funny it didn’t show a fresh IP in the thread when you posted that. -
>the dead pixels add soul
>THE DEAD PIXELS ADD SOUL-
CRTs don’t have pixels you scrotebrained zoomer scrote
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>the dead pixels are these to add soul
>CRTs don’t have dead pixels idiot
Pick one-
I pick the 2nd one since CRTs don’t have pixels you scrotebrained zoomer scrote
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it’s the camera sensor scrotebrain-kun
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>memewhile panelscrotes seethe over a tiny stuck pixel after using their oled shit for a month
Yeah I’m thinking OP was woke af, for once
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Why are CRTards always coping about LCDs? You don’t see LCD/OLED scrotes starting these threads.
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>2880×2160
You’re nearly 1000 columns short of 4K
>interlaced
You’re also only displaying half the pixels at a timeAlso that text looks horrendous, looks like the monitor cannot cope with displaying such fine detail despite taking the signal you’re force-feeding into it.
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>You’re also only displaying half the pixels at a time
are you claiming you can see the individual interlacing fields? wow, whats next? that you can hear above 25kHz?
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Looks like shit
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>i’m not here to shitpost, just to talk about crts 🙂
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Nice blurry image, scrote. Enjoy your cancer, cancer.
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>CRTs are superior
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delusional biased crt posters are the best entertainment
they post like they get paid for it and their posts are just as dumb as what marketing people spew out -
>Here’s your CRT bro
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>4k analog vaseline
no thanks brah -
https://i.imgur.com/KqIrDC4.gif
Can you even read the text at all?
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It is blurry and flickering shit. CRT-scrotes never bothered with 2048×1536 on their high-end 22" units. They went with 1600×1200 to take advantage of 85-100hz refresh rate. They even went with 1280×960 to get simply get 120hz (Provided that their video card could handle it)
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>flickering
(And that’s a good thing)-
No, it is ass. Your eyes absolutely hate it. [email protected] 50-60hz is pure flickering torture. It is the biggest reason why normies hated CRTs. You need at least 85hz to make it tolerable but comes at the cost of resolution. Again, msot CRT-scrote never ran their monitors at its maximum resolution. They always dial-back to get a higher refresh rate.
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Just got a 22 in 75 Hz 1080p IPS monitor and it’s arriving soon
feels good m8
couldn’t care less about muh gaymen, I just want to make my eyes comfy and have a spacious display
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imagine a world where, in the modern day, one of those beasts was the typical display experience. imagine that the highest end tubes had 250khz refresh rates and could reach 6400×4800 resolution. we got bonked hard.
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what’s the best crt ever made?
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depends who you ask. there’s a few contenders commonly mentioned, each of which has its own benefits:
>iiyama vmp 514
>sony gdm-f520
>nec rdf225wg
and probably lots of others i can’t remember off the top of my head-
Eizo F931 and T965
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Wait, is that a 21" 4:3 monitor?
Lcd only go up to 19 in the square format
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I had the NEC and it was the freaking shit.
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PROOF. NOW.
I’m almost certain you’re mistaken as the RDF is probably the only AdobeRGB CRT, and it was probably exclusive to Japan. It’s the biggest unicorn ever.
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Why would you do that, best CRT resolution is none for office work and movies and 1024×768 for gaming.
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I usually run 1280×[email protected] or 1600×[email protected] For games that only support 60Hz I run 1800×1350.
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Why though, the higher resolution just eats up fps.
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I have a decent computer, not an issue.
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>runs literally decade old games
oh nevermind, it is a toaster-
I play new games too (lower res since it’s before i got a better tube)
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Protip: For games that support internal resolution scaling you can go lower res+high refresh and still get high res+high refresh like results
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supersampling is shit for lcd scrotes
don’t fall so low-
Hey now, isnt there something poetic about using tech that is supposed to improve fixed panels but in the end benefits CRTs greatly?
CRT chads just cant stop winning
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I’ll have to try that with Special K or something. Usually I don’t even turn AA on because it’s just a blur filter in new games.
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Looks like shit, can’t read anything on that
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you’re definitely right, can’t forget the 2070sb. oops.
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Anyone have that image with the stripes that fucks with CRT users?
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Eye strain for one. CRTs are goddamned migraine machines.
Size and weight second. I like having space on my desktop.
Aside from that CRTs are fine. I grew up with them though and im going going back. Fuck the headache-
High-khz monitors are completely headache free as they can run 85hz at any reasonable resolution you throw at them. Like the one in OP can do 1080p120hz or 1200p110hz, that’s utter overkill
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I wouldn’t say completely. Some people are sensitive to multi-KHz PWM.
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But virtually every single lamp around you flickers at 50-120hz depending on region and electronics, how do those people cope??
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Well, to be fair, you’re usually not looking directly at a lamp. Nor is it a big rectangle, it’s closer to a point.
Also, generally at least some of the light in your room will come from the remarkably DC sun.-
Instead of just a screen it’s all of your surroundings that flicker!!
Bullshit zoomer. Your clearly new to these brain splitting pain elementals. CRT is migraine season.
Either way, the rolling strobe with gentle phosphor decay is enough to make 85hz completely strain free for >99% of people. And if 85hz is somehow a problem you can go even higher.
72hz is visually flicker-free to me already, but few hours of exposure do make my eyes burn a little. I know what it’s like.
I can "see" the flicker of a 144hz globally strobed LED LCDs pretty clearly too, those things are really nasty. The type of flicker matters a lot.Also lets not forget one of the main reasons why CRTs are so sought after again, it’s exactly that strobe. It’s necessary for motion clarity, something LCDs or OLEDs cant do natively and imitate hilariously poorly. If you can see kiloherz flicker, sucks to be you, I guess you’ll have to put up with sample&hold blur. Something I find even more straining than 60hz CRT flicker.
>Your clearly new to these brain splitting pain elementals.
You’re calling me new?You can letterbox though please buy me a kiloherz dac so I can do it
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Yes, 72Hz eliminates most flicker. Until you have DC dimmed sample and hold, though, there’s still flicker and therefore the potential for eye strain.
Rolling scan helps a little, but also causes scanout skew. I actually prefer globally strobed LEDs since they theoretically won’t have motion issues at all. -
>something LCDs or OLEDs cant do natively
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>kiloherz dac
gigaherz*Global strobe adds latency though. A full frame at the top of the image.
At least current OLED technology fundamentally cannot, as it’s not bright enough for the ridiculously short persistence you actually need. Also response time might a problem, we’re talking about sub-millisecond pulses if we want to match CRTs, not even OLED have the response times for that!!
For LCDs you want a ridiculosuly bright multi segment backlight carefully timed with your scanout to avoid crosstalk and latency .. nobody has made one. The Viewsonic tho, we’ll see how good a global strobe can actually get…not all of us are as weak as you. lcd blur has caused me more headaches than crt flicker.
> lcd blur has caused me more headaches than crt flicker.
Same here, I had to see a CRT again to realize that all the eye strain I get from FPS games came from LCD sample&hold blurIt’s real though.
hey aren’t you that sis from desktop bread with that sick ass awesomewm rice? mirin
I’m not OP but OP posted my picture. So yes it’s me. But not the OP, okay?
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>Global strobe adds latency
Not if you do it right by using QFT. Theoretically if response time isn’t an issue, it’s actually much faster and more consistent since the whole frame appears at once. All that careful backlight timing is really unnecessary, rolling scan is only needed for eyesore reasons.
>OLED brightness
You’re kinda right about that. Currently they have ABL for power consumption and longevity, but without that restriction they could do over 1000 nits. It’ll be hard to global strobe self-emissive technologies but it’s probably possible.
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Bullshit zoomer. Your clearly new to these brain splitting pain elementals. CRT is migraine season.
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werx on my machine, get better eyes
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Sit in front of one all day once kiddo. You clearly haven’t or we wouldn’t be having this convo.
Oh well this whole thread is bait anyway.-
>Sit in front of one all day once
i’ve been dailying a tube since 2014.
again, werx on my machine. i’ve been waiting forever for lcds that flicker like they should, and eyelets like you ensure i’ll be waiting a few years yet.-
Yeah weak ass bait.
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not all of us are as weak as you. lcd blur has caused me more headaches than crt flicker.
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Sure. We believe you…
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Man, the tube is going in full overclocking, it’s something nice but that you’re probably killing the CRT but it’s something I would do
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you know 4k is a 16:9 aspect ratio and that freaking piece of shit monitor you have is not, and thus cannot be 4k, you god damn scrotebrain. I thought this was a technology board.
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>you know 4k is a 16:9 aspect ratio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#4K_standards_and_terminology
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Seems like an appropriate thread to ask. Is it even worth buying a 1080i CRT for the prices that people are asking? Planning on using it for vidya, movies, and as a computer monitor.
Other than that I could get a 30 something inch Trinitron for like $150ish or something a bit smaller possibly for free. I just want something with component in at the minimum.I should also note I DID buy a 1080i crt for a decent price BUT it freaking stopped working entirely a few days after I bought it and I’ve called a couple places near me and they say it’s too old for them to repair it, so it’s not looking good on that front. And no, I don’t trust myself enough to repair it unless that’s an absolute last resort.
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Nah. These threads are made by poopyholes selling their migraine machines on ebay to drum up business from ignorant zoomers who dont know any better.
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The only point of these threads is to talk about monitors and what makes them great, and make sure people realize what was lost when we adopted LCDs. Now, LCD is a great technology with many benefits, but it’s often lacking in certain areas due to complacency and ignorance. What I want to see are new LCDs with low motion blur, high dynamic range and wide viewing angles – and I know for sure they are possible.
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Obsessed.
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Before you even try to use it on a PC, ensure that you have some way of actually outputting a 1080i signal to it. Otherwise you’ll most likely be limited to 720P or less. Better to get an actual computer monitor I’d say, even low end ones sync much higher than 1080i TVs.
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Before you even try to use it on a PC, ensure that you have some way of actually outputting a 1080i signal to it.
I’ve looked into it, yes. Most methods seem to be extremely hit or miss, such as all of the chinkshit hdmi to component converters.
>Also, what price specifically?
For 1080i crts? I’ve not seen one for under $400. I could just replace my 4k monitor/tv for this much. I could pick up a 36" trinitron now for $150, guy says he has an hdmi to component converter as well, not sure what it is specifically. $100 for a 32" that looks a lot cleaner physically. I may have seen someone giving one away for free? I couldn’t tell what it is exactly and I haven’t asked for any details, all I could make out was "sony" and "wega" on the front.-
>I’ve not seen one for under $400.
Yeah I wouldn’t bother unless you have some 1080i laserdiscs or other crazy shit.
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hey aren’t you that sis from desktop bread with that sick ass awesomewm rice? mirin
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>Curse you
Hey, I just want better monitors no matter the tech they use. -
Get a Barco CIne9
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these things are the shit but also complete and total unobtanium
it’s weird to me how they can do like 170khz but also have fuck all for total bandwidth-
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nice
no listed prices though, they want you to contact them. definitely "if you have to ask…" level pricing.
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Back when I still used a CRT I don’t recall getting eyestrain nor headaches. Since using LCD I’ve experienced both.
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Interlaced at 84hz = an artifacting mess, especially with any vertical motion. Nobody use interlace anymore. It was only done to get around bandwidth and recording limitations for OTA TVs.
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baka-janny
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CRTs have absolute shit contrast ratio unless you’re using it in an unlit basement.
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Look at that amazing contrast ratio and glare reduction!
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Still looks great, I wish I had one.
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