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has America produced any world-renowned poets or authors? If so, who and in what capacity? does anyone give a fuck about Walt Whitman and Poe and Hemingway outside the US?
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yeah
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who?
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Were done here lads.
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amerisharts never produced anything of value, only globohomo propaganda in service of their tribal masters
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No authors nor poets outside of the Holy Bible matter.
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Herman Melville, his stories are still mentioned to this day, like Moby Dick for example.
Edgar Allen Poe is the standard of short stories that are used to this day, and his influence inspired many greats like Alfred Hitchcock and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Mark Twain has written one of the greatest pieces of modern literature in Huckleberry Finn, and has received praise globally for his works.
Henry James popularized the "point of view" narration style, which added more depth to stories than before.
F.Scott Fitzgerald wrote The Great Gatsby, one of the few books to remain a best seller decades after his death. And his books are a great way to view The Roaring Twenties outside of a history book.
William Faulkner is one of the best cerebral writers of the 20th century, and is a Nobel Literature Prize winner.
John Steinbeck wrote many classics like The Grapes Of Wrath, East Eden, and Of Mice And Men. You may forget the author, but you remember his stories.
Ernest Hemmingway is influential in his writing style. He taught himself how to edit his prose, stripping it to the bone and creating a greater intensity by the omission rather than the inclusion of detail. The result is to create significant connections and meaning beneath the surface of a sparse, apparently simple, almost monosyllabic narrative, using the simple sentences that a child might use. He also employs cinematic techniques such as cutting quickly from one scene to the next and of splicing one scene into another. Intentional scene omissions allow the reader to fill in the gap, creating for herself a three dimensional prose. Authors to this day adopt this practice.
Arthur Miller was a playwright, but his plays are some of the greatest of the 20th century. The Crucible, Death Of A Salesman, and All My Sons are must see. He even wrote the script for the movie The Misfits, which is seen as one of the best movies of the 1960’s.-
all of them are talentless hacks (maybe id save poe)
americans are unable to make top of the notch art-
Please explain in detail what makes them talentless hacks
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i dont like prose
most of the authors you cited are prose writers thus unlikeable
i genuinely hope you suggest me some american poet who isnt pound and elliotheres your (you) scrotebrain
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>I don’t like prose
So any author that uses prose is a talentless hack? You are mentally scrotebrained, anon.
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i might be
still you havent suggested me some nice american poets 🙁
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But rhyming is freaking embarrassing. I listen to a lot of foreign music so I don’t have to endure rhyming in English or know what they are saying. I like translated poetry so I don’t have to be phonetically inflicted with rhyming. Even then I stick to classical literature because modern poetry is freaking gay.
Nah it sounds bad for the reasons stated. At best it could have been better. Also the production value is terrible and the bass and drums are mixed too low.
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>I think it sounds bad for the reasons stated
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poetry is not just about rhymes
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No it’s also about self indulgent opaqueness. Not a fan of that. Just state your thesis or use the superior medium for emotional expression- music. I find words to be embarrassing for emotional expression without being veiled by narrative.
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i kind of agree with what you have stated
i believe that one of the highest form of art is opera
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>I don’t like prose
Plebian spotted.
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Other than inventing country, jazz, r&b, bebop, swing, crooning, funk, and fusion. Then if you count the latins there is bossa nova, cumbia, samba. Honestly all of the best music of the 20th century came from the Americas. Obviously I love the yuro parroting though as Jamiroquai is my favorite band, love the Brand New Heavies too.
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After reading Hemingway for the first time I realized why all the hipster scrotes try to imitate his style. He has the most masculine prose style I’ve ever encountered. It’s very direct and simplistic as opposed to the flowery and passive chatter you see in most works of literature.
If you were going to be a caricature of a man, he’s who you would try to imitate.
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IIRC the USA has as many Nobel Prizes in literature as France and the UK.
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>Obama has a Nobel prize too
not in literature, scrote
>No one actually cares about these people outside the US
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Nobel Peace Prizes are not the same as Literature or Sciences.
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>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and Englishman, is inspired by Poe
One example that disproves your /int/ filled shitpost.
Another example is Faulkner’s influence to French novelist Claude Simon.You are uneducated, and spend too much time on /int/. You should lurk and not post for a long time.
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>No one actually cares about these people outside the US
In Germany at least Twain and Steinbeck are compulsory reading when you visit more than just elementary school.-
Huh really? Thats kind of cool.
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I like Mark Twain!! 😀
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>In Germany at least Twain and Steinbeck are compulsory reading when you visit more than just elementary school.
No, they are not.
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>In Germany at least Twain and Steinbeck are compulsory reading
Yeah because Germans are cucks. I bet Germans don’t even read Goethe or Schiller in school
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I’ve talked with people from Argentina, the UK, and Russia that all admired Poe. At the very very least I can say with certainty that he’s renowned outside of the US.
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Edgar Allen Poe is extremely respected in Europe.
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not really
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HEEHEE GET A LOAD OF THIS scrote
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Only heard of Whitman through Breaking Bad, but the other two I heard about in school.
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Same lmao
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>hearing about Whitman through Breaking Bad and not the Sopranos
Walt fuckin’ Whitman ovuh here.[…]
You posted him.
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Walt Whitman was part of a major plot point in Breaking Bad though, and so the reference to him is alot more memorable than it is in The Sopranos.
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I heard of him through the Simpsons.
>"Walt Whitman!?"
>"Leaves of Grass, my ass!"
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Lovecraft and Asimov were both American to name a couple, "literature" may be a dead end but American popular fiction has worldwide appeal.
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Unironically H.P.Lovecraft
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Yes. American writers such as Melville, Pynchon, Gaddis, Gass, McElroy, DeLillo etc. brought the form of the encyclopedic novel to new heights.
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Jim Morrison was a glowie plant
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And he was woke af
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How? The music is bad
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No, it was great
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How? It’s poorly arranged and doesn’t suite the vocals. The keyboardist clearly didn’t know what he was doing. Every composition is amateur.
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>suite
sis you can’t even write-
I still know more music theory than you.
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And yet your taste sucks lmfao
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Nah, the music is bad. This album is my current jam. I didn’t even like The Doors much during my boomer rock phase when I was 15. To be fair almost all rock music sounds bad to me now.
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>all rock music sounds bad
>admitting you have shit taste then have the gall to judge others
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I grew out of rock music when I was like 22. It is just too amateurish and it sounds like the musicians don’t know what they are doing. I generally listen to Bill Evans or Ted Greene in the mornings and classic Bakersfield country music at work. I do like one rapper though because he uses mostly half-rhymes so it isn’t so bad and makes a lot of biblical references in regard to the psyche.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5eypUpQc7M&t=141s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj_kqaCkiS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROMzmiKhW38
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Dude the doors are peak pseud tier garbage for people who lack taste but don’t realize it
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t. commie
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Really, only greatest hits? Light My Fire is the biggest example of the keyboardist being bad but People are Strange is better with writing around the melody.
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>only greatest hits?
And?
>keyboardist being bad
Nah, the keyboard is what makes the song great.-
Yeah nah it is extremely sloppy. The intro ruins the entire song. There are multiple mistakes in it. Then he just pumps a couple chords with no left hand work. And over all with the composition he is playing too close to the mids for the vocals. Instruments in a composition should sit above and below the vocals in pitch for the most part for balance. Classic country is a perfect example of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PjacHLI9Y Notice that the bass is significantly lower than Waylon with the leads and chords played sitting an octave above him. This makes the composition balanced and enjoyable. That is the problem with most rock groups without a producer cleaning up their compositions. They have no idea what they are doing. If the keyboard and guitar were played an octave above or if even just one did it wouldn’t be so muddled sounding.
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>bla bla bla muh theory bla bla bla
If it sounds good it sounds good, it’s that simple.-
But it sounds bad. I’m not even looking into the chords, just the arrangement. I get that you play no instruments and know no theory and listen to bad music sold on branded authenticity woke af purely on the words though.
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>But it sounds bad.
That’s just your opinion.
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What’s it like having no soul?
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Pure musiclet cope.
No, I genuinely dislike it because it is bad. Just relisten to the track critically and you will hear the shitty playing and poor engineering.
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I’ve been reading your posts critically and they’re full of shitty writing and poor reasoning
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Well keep listening to corporate boomer pop for the sovl then I guess.
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>gigachad_yes.jpg
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You have shit taste sis, not gonna lie, and mining the country genre to make your points does not ground you in authenticity or believability. It just makes you an urban yankee scrote carpetbagger.
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My family are literally cattle ranchers and I have visited Waylon Jennings grave but it is interesting that you find someone who likes classic country to be so far fetched.
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Prime example of a redneck flyover imbecile pooping on his own kind just for the audacity of having taste instead of mindlessly simping for granddadrock
>t.rural Yankee
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As a nonamerican there are quite a lot of American authors I enjoy. Wharton and Thoreau are my favourites.
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>*shitty CIA-funded circus music starts playing*
>I EAT MORE CHICKEN THAN ANY MAN EVER SEEN
>*shitty guitar solo*
>SHE GET HIIIIGH
>SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIGH
>SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH
>*shitty ten minute keyboard solo*
>FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>*song ends*
wow, truly the GOAT band. Thank you Jim Morrison for your truly groundbreaking """music"""-
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To be fair lyrics are by far the least important part of music and as a patrician myself I like a lot of foreign music so I don’t have to endure a shitty narrative but can still enjoy the vocal work. No I do not look up the translations.
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Johan Rowling, Ayn Rand, Tolkien, and Isaac Asimov.
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Rowling and Tolkien are Anglos, not Americans.
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Britain is an American province
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One of the generally-acknowledged greatest works of poetry in the English language is James Merrill’s ‘Changing Light at Sandover.’
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What’s interesting is that some of the best poets produced by the US were explicitly anti-American. Robert Lowell had a famous poem called ‘Children of Light’ which basically said that America was a huge mistake:
>Our fathers wrung their bread from stocks and stones
>And fenced their gardens with the Redmen’s bones;
>Embarking from the Nether Land of Holland,
>Pilgrims unhouseled by Geneva’s night,
>They planted here the Serpent’s seeds of light;
>And here the pivoting searchlights probe to shock
>The riotous glass houses built on rock,
>And candles gutter by an empty altar,
>And light is where the landless blood of Cain
>Is burning, burning the unburied grain.‘Unhouseled’ in the technical sense means someone who hasn’t been given the Catholic sacraments, but Lowell was basically saying that American settlers were a bunch of rootless merchants who constructed a nation of stingy greedy scrotes.
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You must realize that being anti-American is itself a way to gain acclaim. Anything anti-American gets a 3 point boost on the 1-10 scale in the minds of coping and seething Europoors and turd worlders
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what a loaded question, so clear you are just here to seethe about the US
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America has produced:
>blm
>lgbt
>radical feminism
>pedophilia
But thats about it.-
Only BLM is American there, the rest are European
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I’m perpetually amazed at how Euros here have convinced themselves that they’re not the epicenter of LGBT mania worldwide.
Magnus Hirschfeld was German in Berlin m8-
Hirschfeld was a garden gnome
Yeah nah it is extremely sloppy. The intro ruins the entire song. There are multiple mistakes in it. Then he just pumps a couple chords with no left hand work. And over all with the composition he is playing too close to the mids for the vocals. Instruments in a composition should sit above and below the vocals in pitch for the most part for balance. Classic country is a perfect example of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PjacHLI9Y Notice that the bass is significantly lower than Waylon with the leads and chords played sitting an octave above him. This makes the composition balanced and enjoyable. That is the problem with most rock groups without a producer cleaning up their compositions. They have no idea what they are doing. If the keyboard and guitar were played an octave above or if even just one did it wouldn’t be so muddled sounding.
Is this a new copypasta?
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its only LULZ Euros that pretend they aren’t gay central, normalscrote Euros (at least the Western ones) do nothing but complain that America is racist or homophobic
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Pedophelia comes from France
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You know the answer is yes you dumb scrote. Outside this response I’m not wasting time here.
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>You know the answer is yes
No we don’t that’s the point of the thread scrotebrain. We literally DON’T freaking KNOW scrote
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Jim Morrison was a CIA plant his dad literally was responsible for getting the US into Vietnam
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So what was his role?
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The entire rock movement of the 60’s and 70’s was meant to be a secular ritual for mass control. That’s why drugs went hand in hand with Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll. Drugs make you suggestible and open to the implantation of new ideas because they cut you off from the logos.
Controlling the world through vice has been the main program of western intelligence agencies since at least the 50’s.
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Literally all digital media has been free since napster.
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The whole world fawns over our negrus like Maya Angelou
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Ezra Pound was world renowned before getting canceled.
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Every single person in the world knows almost instinctively what "Moby Dick", "Jurassic Park", "The Wizard of Oz", and "The Godfather" refer to. It is true that those are all now famous movies, but they were books first, and famous in their own right before any motion picture adaptation. These are just a few examples, there are countless others.
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Technically Jurrassic Park is just a rework of Frankenstein.
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Kurt Cobain
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I dunno if Carver and Cheever are/were world renowned but I like them. Even if their personal lives are distasteful
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Philip k Dick was apparently very popular among French Marxist intellectuals who were too far up their own ass to see he was far right.
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