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    • #175389
      Anonymous
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      Explain to me how DNA has nothing to do with race, because thats whats being taught at universities all over America.

    • #175390
      Anonymous
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      They just redefined the word race.
      Equality is a modern dogma you cant question. Medical professionals are allowed to tiptoe around it and keep quiet. Yes you live in a totalitarian state.

      • #175401
        Anonymous
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        Cry me a river. The West isn’t totalitarian nor is it egalitarian. It’s liberal.

        • #175430
          Anonymous
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        • #175431
          Anonymous
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          The west is "liberal" in the same sense that Nazi Germany was "socialist".

        • #175432
          Anonymous
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          >It’s liberal.
          Your cult is very liberal about the truth, what kind of degenerate sexual behaviors are socially acceptable, and how much control banks and corporations are allowed to have over society. That’s it.

    • #175391
      Anonymous
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      DNA has nothing to do with phenotype, scrotebrain

      • #175392
        Anonymous
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        Y-yes it does….?
        Without certain DNA markers you will never express certain phenotypes.

      • #175394
        Anonymous
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        What foods can I feed my baby that will cause their nose to grow wider and flatter and their skin to grow darker?

        • #175395
          Anonymous
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          Fried chicken.

        • #175396
          Anonymous
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          Fried chicken.

          sheeeeeeit

        • #175397
          Anonymous
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          Purple drank and lots of processed food.

      • #175399
        Anonymous
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        >american education

      • #175400
        Anonymous
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        looks like you express the scrotebrain phenotype

      • #175417
        Anonymous
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        >this is what leftards actually believe

      • #175426
        Anonymous
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        american education

    • #175393
      Anonymous
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      freaking CHUD BIGOT!11!1!

    • #175398
      Anonymous
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      This is just a language problem. Also, the US is just 3% of the population so who cares they change a few words.

    • #175402
      Anonymous
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      This is not being taught at universities in America.

    • #175403
      Anonymous
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      SJWs want to control public discourse and are willing to use political pressure to force various social groups to adopt SJW values, ideology, and terminology. This includes scientific and academic institutions. I am genuinely not a conservative, and I would even say I despise a lot of Republican politicians and journalists, but the fact of the matter is that if right-wingers tried to do the same thing, they would be labeled conspiracy theorists and SJWs would literally be making comparison with Nazi Germany and "book burning", and the people probably be fired, deplatformed, and perhaps would even being facing charges for harassment, intimidation, and domestic terrorism.

      In reality, race is a perfectly valid concept. Is it a robust and precise as more modern concepts that have been introduced in the age of molecular genetics? Of course not, and we shouldn’t expect phenotypic race to have a perfect one-to-one correlation with some concept of molecular genetics, but that is a scrotebrained standard to have. Taxonomy in general is not reducible to molecular genetics. One is a historical, phylogenetic, and functional description. The other is a biochemical description. The fact of the matter, is that race still a real phenomenon, that we already have an intuitive, pragmatic understanding of just woke af on our everyday empirical experience, and scientifically speaking, their are undeniably statistical regularities associated with our concepts of race and ethnicity. This is why genetic testing works. This is why different populations are susceptible to different diseases. This is why people from different racial group tend to have similar skin tones, stature, height, etc.

      • #175405
        Anonymous
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        >right-wingers tried to do the same thing
        >if
        Zoomers don’t remember when opposing wars abroad could get you fired and when police and military were basically a protected class in public discussion

        • #175406
          Anonymous
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          https://i.imgur.com/7DegAKw.gif

          I’m not a zoomer. I am aware of the censorship that occurred in connection with the "War on Terror", and in fact that censorship is still going on, as we can see with people like Julian Assange (and many other less publicized cases). That being said that was 20 years ago. The cultural climate has changed a lot. The American right simply does not have the same power it had 2 decades ago. Furthermore, the censorship surrounding the War on Terror was largely bipartisan – and this is still going on with the bipartisan Anti-BDS laws. In fact, you see the same thing with the pullout from Afghanistan. There is a lot of bipartisan support for remaining in Afghanistan, and a lot of establishment democrats have been extremely critical of Joe Biden for pulling out of Afghanistan.

          But yes, I wouuld certainly agree that the same censorious tendencies exist on the right. The thing is, there power has been decline for decades, whereas the left has been getting more powerful, more centrist, and more authoritarian in recent decades, so conservative thought police do not have the same capacity to influence public discourse and institutional policies as do leftist thought police.

          • #175409
            Anonymous
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            The war in Iraq is over, but right wing cancel culture is very much a thing, and it doesn’t seem to get as much attention as its "left" wing counterpart.

            • #175411
              Anonymous
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              Yes, same anon, and I would certianly agree. And the Iraq War isnt even entirely over in a sense. Or rather, the Iraq and Afghan conflicts have died down, but only because our efforts have shifted to Syria and Iran, which is still the same geographic neigborhood.
              A lot of people talk about left wing cancel culture, including people like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson, but neither of them address the real and ongoing censorship of Anti-war activists, and there was actually even an uptick in this kind of censorship under the Trump admin. The Anti-BDS laws that I mentioned are a good example of that. So is a lot of the rhetoric that has be directed towards people like Ilhan Omar. She has been absolutely smeared by the right wing media, and I am honestly a fan of hers.
              Also, there has been a lot of censorship of some of the more grass root environmental activism, and I think that even a lot of leftists are unaware. E.g. I’m from Maryland, and a few weeks ago, a bunch of hippie folks were areested in Montgomery County for peacefully protesting in a drum circle. Why? Their crime was taking the protests to the neighborhood of wealthy politicians.

            • #175439
              Anonymous
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              >source: my ass
              Examples?

          • #175410
            Anonymous
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            Lol, I like how when non-woke lefties are criticized, many of them are willing to identify and acknowledge flaws in non-woke ideology, and will admit that conservatism, centrism, etc have flaws of their own , but then when woke lefties face criticism of their ideology, they try to dismiss it, ignore it, or engage in semantic games, straw manning, and gaslighting like here

            I’ve never taken sociology or anthropology etc. but in the psych 101 class I had to take for a freshman general elective we were not taught that genes have no effect on mental states.
            I honestly don’t know anyone who takes your stance that genes don’t code for phenotype. That makes no sense and no one believes that.

            . Its like they think there could never be any examples of leftist bias or irrationality because we live in a bigoted, right wing society, and any criticisms of woke ideology are either baseless, or evidence that the opposing position is rooted in bigotry, racism, intolerence, etc. It is a perfect example of an infalsifiable ideology. Any criticism can be a priori rejected and ignored.

            I dont really have a voice in these debates on places like LULZ or in mainstream politics, because I am a social libertarian but an economic leftist, and there really arent many of us, but if there are crazy factions in my ideology or flaws in my belief system, I actually want people to point them out. Then I can address those flaws or issues, and thereby make my position more robust and convincing to others. Of course, if someone has a shitty argument, then I will defend my position as much as possible, but if someone points out a genuine flaw, and I cant address it, then my instinct is not to engage in semantic games or gaslighting, but rather to re-examine my own ideology. The sad thing about our political climate today, is that even making these sort of innocuous claims is liable to set off everyone from the Qtards to the Woke left. If you goal is actually to convince other people and to engage in good faith political debate and discussion, then you need to be prepared to acknowledge flaws in your own political camp, and you can’t just ignore people because theyre a "shill" or a "poltard", or whatever demonizing buzzword is popular in in your segment of the political community.

          • #175438
            Anonymous
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            >the left has been getting more centrist
            Lmao

    • #175412
      Anonymous
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      >thats whats being taught at universities all over America
      What shitty major are you in that this topic even comes up?

      • #175420
        Anonymous
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        pre-requisite for all students to complete their degree, no matter what degree it is. it may not be in every single state but if it is a blue state or even a moderate one, this is being taught as fact.

        • #175421
          Anonymous
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          >lies

          • #175422
            Anonymous
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            bullshit, if its being taught at my uni its being taught in every liberal state guaranteed. at this point, its not even a controversial topic either and like the other guy said, its being taught in humanities classes, not even science classes where they can prove it.

            • #175423
              Anonymous
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              >they can prove it.
              can they?
              Can you? There have to be some lectures of that crap leaked on some tube if what you say is true. But it is not.

    • #175414
      Anonymous
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      >Explain to me how DNA has nothing to do with race
      >tfw blacks have RNA

    • #175419
      Anonymous
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      >thats whats being taught at universities all over America
      Whether you’re lying or commies still hate genetics because it fucks their dogma in ass and mouth.

    • #175424
      Anonymous
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      ok.
      race is essentially
      >this person looks this way, we’re going to categorize them this way
      whereas dna is
      >a molecule that contains genetic information
      so dna doesn’t have anything to do with race because dna is about your genetics whereas race has to do with how society groups you woke af on your outward appearance. there’s no black or asian codon. there’s black or asian people because society has determined that certain features that qualify as that, and the people then identify as that.

    • #175427
      Anonymous
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      >Explain to me how DNA has nothing to do with race
      DNA on its own is just genetic instructions for a given organism so they can form and function in a environment. Because nature is thrifty and likes recycling any and all resources at its disposal, large swaths of DNA is often reused in completely different organisms.

      You wouldn’t classify humans as part insect just because we share coding sequences for diseases with fruit flies would you? What about protein encoding similarities with mice? Although I suppose there are those threads with people obsessed with creating Human x Cat hybrids. So I suppose it could be fair game actually.

      As far as race is concerned there is obviously a genetic component. However that has a lot more to do with how you categorize populations. You can easily make as many or as few races as you desire simply woke af on how you categorize and define those categories. Every European population isn’t genetically the same, nor are East Asians or Sub-Sahara Africans. Yet we cluster said groups in three major groups instead tens or hundreds. Honestly nothing stopping us from categorizing everyone with Myopia as their own race. I think the medical sciences would probably prefer we went that route for everyday use since we already break the human species into haplo groups in genetic science.

      • #175428
        Anonymous
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        > You can easily make as many or as few races as you desire simply woke af on how you categorize and define those categories.
        Yep, but today we have the concept of races in our cultures. And though each concept is somewhat different in each particular head, we have some semantic centres of those concepts each personal comprehension gravitate towards, and recognizing as many races as there are genes would be more beneficial to understanding of genetics than ignorant way of ignoring those group traits determining their cultureal peculiarities.
        I understand reddirt’s wish to have some of their disgusting genetic flaws ignored, but you better work on bettering yourself and not trying to fit in where you don’t belong. Genetic therapies are already here, so you just wait for them to be affordable, which I expect to happen in a decade if we’re lucky or in two if we’re a little less lucky.

      • #175429
        Anonymous
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        https://i.imgur.com/Ea3V2Vo.gif

        >Explain to me how DNA has nothing to do with race
        >As far as race is concerned there is obviously a genetic component.
        Sir?

      • #175447
        Anonymous
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        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/
        >Genetic cluster analysis of the microsatellite markers produced four major clusters, which showed near-perfect correspondence with the four self-reported race/ethnicity categories. Of 3,636 subjects of varying race/ethnicity, only 5 (0.14%) showed genetic cluster membership different from their self-identified race/ethnicity. On the other hand, we detected only modest genetic differentiation between different current geographic locales within each race/ethnicity group. Thus, ancient geographic ancestry, which is highly correlated with self-identified race/ethnicity—as opposed to current residence—is the major determinant of genetic structure in the U.S. population.

        >inb4 cope and mental gymnastics

    • #175434
      Anonymous
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      Show me the DNA sequence that confirms someone is black. You can’t? It’s almost as if what we consider race is arbitrary.

      • #175435
        Anonymous
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        This goes for literally any organism. I mean pretty much every category in biology is fuzzy, which is why a lot of bioinformatics requires the use of fuzzy sets and similar objects. Its obvious that you are talking out of your ass, because if you had any knowledge of genetics, then you would know this. The same thing applies to literallly every other species and every other taxonomical category. For example, there is no genetic definition of "c. elegans" or of "drosophila" or of the genus "homo". Thats not how taxonomical or phylogenetic concepts are defined in biology. Phylogeny and taxonomy are closely related to genetics, but they are not reducible to genetics or any other biochemical concepts (not that you even knoe what any of that means). Its a complete non-sequiter in fact. Its literally like saying that schizophrenia doesn’t exist because the behavioral tendencies associated with schizophrenia cannot be completely predicted by genetic methods. Of course schizoohrenia cannot be preducted pyrely on the basis of genetic data, but genetics is still one of the primary determining factors in the development of schizophrenia.

        I dont think there is a single area in tye entirety of science where one concept is perfectly reducible to another. I guess in some mathematical contexts you could maybe make that argument, but certainly not in the empirical sciences. Even genetics itself isnt reducible to the study of nucleotides and genetic profiles, because as the Extended Modern Synthesis, the EvoDevo paradigm, and modern epigenetics have shown, basically all genetic traits are influenced by environmnetal and developmental factors. Which brings me to another point. By your own reasoning literally all of genomics is meaningless because (due to epigenetics), we know that even a full genome sequence is not sufficient to
        Predict the phenotypic traits of an organism with perfect accuracy.

        • #175436
          Anonymous
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          Exactly, it’s all arbitrary. The only thing you’d get by classifying humans into different races/subspecies is prejudice.

          • #175446
            Anonymous
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            Moving the goalposts. Nice. A classical logical fallacy. First you said that race is "meaningless" because it is defined arbitrarily, but all definitions are arbitrary, so your argument was just vacuous sophistry. Then you switched your position and now you are claiming that the concept should be discarded because it would only result in prejudice. This by the way, is another logical fallacy, called the naturalistic fallacy. In other words, you are objectively wrong. I know this is hard for SJWs to understand because they are scientifically illiterate, but one of the central tenets in modern biology and psychology is that you cant make moral inferences woke af on empirical claims. I know you dont understand what that means, so let me explain. An empirical claim is a statement of fact, e.g claims about the relationship between phylogenetic, taxonomical, and genetic phenomenon would be an empirical claim. A moral claim would be that one race is superior or inferior, one race is better, or etc. Empirical claims about racial or getic categories cannot entail moral claims about the superiority of one race over another. Again, this is a core tenet of modern science and philosophy, so if you disagree with that you are simply wrong. For more on the matter, look into the natualistic fallacy and the is-ought distinction.

            Moreover, if races dont wxist and we should just ignore them, then how come you SJWs always talk about shit like white privilige and underrepresentation of minorities? If the concept of race is meaningless, then saying that "minorities are underrepresented" is literally meaningless.

          • #175452
            Anonymous
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            Dumb redditard

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/
            >Genetic cluster analysis of the microsatellite markers produced four major clusters, which showed near-perfect correspondence with the four self-reported race/ethnicity categories. Of 3,636 subjects of varying race/ethnicity, only 5 (0.14%) showed genetic cluster membership different from their self-identified race/ethnicity. On the other hand, we detected only modest genetic differentiation between different current geographic locales within each race/ethnicity group. Thus, ancient geographic ancestry, which is highly correlated with self-identified race/ethnicity—as opposed to current residence—is the major determinant of genetic structure in the U.S. population.

            >inb4 cope and mental gymnastics

      • #175451
        Anonymous
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        Dumb redditard

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/
        >Genetic cluster analysis of the microsatellite markers produced four major clusters, which showed near-perfect correspondence with the four self-reported race/ethnicity categories. Of 3,636 subjects of varying race/ethnicity, only 5 (0.14%) showed genetic cluster membership different from their self-identified race/ethnicity. On the other hand, we detected only modest genetic differentiation between different current geographic locales within each race/ethnicity group. Thus, ancient geographic ancestry, which is highly correlated with self-identified race/ethnicity—as opposed to current residence—is the major determinant of genetic structure in the U.S. population.

        >inb4 cope and mental gymnastics

        • #175455
          Anonymous
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          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/
          >Genetic cluster analysis of the microsatellite markers produced four major clusters, which showed near-perfect correspondence with the four self-reported race/ethnicity categories. Of 3,636 subjects of varying race/ethnicity, only 5 (0.14%) showed genetic cluster membership different from their self-identified race/ethnicity. On the other hand, we detected only modest genetic differentiation between different current geographic locales within each race/ethnicity group. Thus, ancient geographic ancestry, which is highly correlated with self-identified race/ethnicity—as opposed to current residence—is the major determinant of genetic structure in the U.S. population.

          >inb4 cope and mental gymnastics

          The reditards have truly been btfod in multiple posts just ITT alone. We’ve basically proven that they are lying, both about what biology actually says and about the scrotebrained drivel that humanities scholars and woke lefties are pushing. As usual, they will most likely either ignore the data and arguments and respond with some semantic word games, or just end the conversation altogether. This is why SJWs have to resort to censorship. If any professor disagrees with the SJW then thebprofessor needs to be fired. On the other hand, if someone wants to criticize a woke SJW professor, then everyone needs to listen to the woke SJW professor, and anyone who disagrees needs to be censored, deplatoformed, and they should be labeled a nazi. And in fact, I dont know if youve heard the latest news stories, but last week the SJWs literally petitioned the FBI and Federal Goverment to have anyone who publicly disagrees with critical race theory at school meetings should literally be investigated for terrorism because they could be a white nationalist terrorist.

    • #175441
      Anonymous
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      >because thats whats being taught at universities all over America.
      sauce?

    • #175443
      Anonymous
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      >scrotebraination and lies are taught across the nation
      I know.

      • #175444
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      • #175456
        Anonymous
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        those are literally made up. just look up these alleles, the majority of them are introns

        • #175457
          Anonymous
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          >the majority of them are introns
          Are you scrotebrained?

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