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during what decade was American patriotism at its absolute highest?
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early 2000s
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This. In no other period would Americans gladly give up their lives just to increase their Vice President’s net worth. They really loved their country
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Patriotism sounds bad.
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Kys Democrat
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I wouldn’t call myself a democrat.
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Kys uhhhh Green Party voter
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What about revolution against Bongs? Always thought that it should be up there.
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Nah, that had higher state level patriotism, not national patriotism
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what did he mean by this
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A person from Virginia or Massachusetts would have a high level of loyalty to their region but not to the country as a whole. The USA almost collapsed just trying to pick a capital
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People from Boston didn’t give a fuck about people from Virginia
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Depends. Virginia today is being held hostage by the DC suburbs in NOVA, those are very similar to Boston
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>Virginia today is being held hostage
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Yes. It’s a puppet state and effectively serves as the statehood of Washington DC
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Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of nominal Virginians only have the ability to vote and live here because of DC and its bloat. Gott strafe NoVA.
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Well seeing as at least about 1/3 of colonists are believed to have been loyalists and only about a 1/3 were actively pro-revolution i would say there have been more patriotic times in American history.
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>Well seeing as at least about 1/3 of colonists are believed to have been loyalists and only about a 1/3 were actively pro-revolution
No scrotebrain it was more like 20 percent at most were loyalists and 40% or more were patriots. I bet canadian hands typed this post, go be a tyranny tolerating maplecuck somewhere else.-
>go be a tyranny tolerating
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>being anal over numbers and not providing a source
If you’re going to be that exact over numbers then provide a source you scrotebrained scrote.
>immediately goes to accusing people of being Canadian
typical schizo mutt, you do realise that your shitskin ancestors from Italy and wherever else you like to larp as had no part in these wars?-
>>being anal over numbers and not providing a source
The post I responded to didn’t have a source either. If you just look up the numbers or go to wikipedia you’ll generally find those as the ones given, 15%-20% loyalists, 40% or more active Patriots.
>If you’re going to be that exact over numbers then provide a source
It was revealed to me through symbolism in a dream. Get raped by a moose Canuckhold.
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The United State didn’t really became a nation-state until after the civil war. Before that, most Americans identified themselves more with their state than US overall and gave the finger to Washington and other states several times and often blatantly. Before the civil war the US was known as "these united states" and not "the United States".
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Early 1940’s trumps that. Coming into the 2000’s America was already well involved in world affairs. In the 1940’s America turned from isloationist to internationalist in one day.
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Lots of people in the 40’s were wide awake, just like now.
Their voices and opinions were not recorded or handed down, but they were there.
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Absolutely. From $0 military production in 1938 to supplying UK, Russia, Australia and our troops with enough armaments to crush Hitler’s balls. 1940s rocked in national unity as a nation with a mission.
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Agreed.
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It only looked so patriotic because it was preceded by several decades of protests and open resentment
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Kinda scary how quickly that ended. The country is definitely declining now.
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What’s the least patriotic demographic in America?
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>What’s the least patriotic demographic in America?
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The rich.
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Middle aged liberal white women
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That’s a good question. Probably isolated hillbillies in the Appalachians who have never heard of a "United States" in their entire lives. Either those guys or Native Americans probably
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>What’s the least patriotic demographic in America?
DemocratsI’m surprised at the answers. I expected a different answer than no one has said yet. Okay out of all the demographics in America which one do you think has the least reason to be patriotic towards America? Not which one you believe actually is the least patriotic.
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The least reason is those least attached to the country historically and are also not numerous. It’s Asians
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I get you mean blacks but the thing about this country is that EVERYONE here is patriotic to some extent minus
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What makes you so sure everyone here is patriotic to some extent?
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Because I live here and I don’t pay attention to social media. Where I live blacks, whites, asians, mexicans, all love this country.
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What convinces you that all those people love America?
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They happily participate in American life, wave the flag at sports games, and celebrate 4th of July. What else do you need?
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>Okay out of all the demographics in America which one do you think has the least reason to be patriotic towards America?
American Indians because they have actual grievances related to dishonored treaties; Asian-Americans because they have no real place in the history besides railroad labor, FDR’s Japanese prison camps, Chinatowns, and using American universities for degrees and spying and then just going back to their countries afterward; and maybe Arab-Americans, though I’m less convinced by that.-
>and then just going back to their countries afterward;
Don’t mix up recent Chinese with 1800s Chinese or Filipinos, Koreans, etc.
No Filipino-American is spying on the US and returning to the Philippines lmao-
>No Filipino-American is spying on the US and returning to the Philippines lmao
Japanese either. I know plety of them and yeah they go visit their extended family in Japan once every couple of years but if you ask them if they want to live in Japan, the majorty say "yeah not really". Especially the women.-
Oh yeah that too. I know a third generation Japanese-American who only acknowledges his Japanese roots for kamikaze and ninja jokes. He even speaks the language, but he is 100% a California dude sis and absolutely has zero intention on "being Japanese"
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Most blacks in this country do not hate America. They hate the cops (and statistics show way less of them hate cops than you think), they hate the idea that they country gives them a raw deal, but they like the concept of America itself as a nation. If they didn’t, they’d just leave.
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Leave to what or where?
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Plenty of blacks who weren’t fans of the US did in fact leave for the soviet union, it just isn’t talked about much
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> If they didn’t, they’d just leave.
The only thing they don’t hate is that it’s way more comfortable to live here than anywhere they’d be able to make for themselves to live, and way more tolerant of them than any non-white country.
They’re like their own country within our country. They don’t see themselves as one and the same with white Americans, they have their own community that they worry about and try to benefit. That’s not patriotism, that’s parasitism.-
I don’t think you’re talking about blacks here.
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Maybe you could say there’s a gnomish elite who think like this, but I don’t think it’s characteristic.
Whereas black people use the phrase "Black America" to distinguish themselves from the rest of America.
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>They’re like their own country within our country. They don’t see themselves as one and the same with white Americans, they have their own community that they worry about and try to benefit. That’s not patriotism, that’s parasitism.
This seems like projection to me. I feel the most authentic expressions of American patriotism come from black Americans, as their culture possesses the soul, truth and substance of America compared to the empty formalism of the (white) right, which masquerades as "patriotic" and "nationalist" while wholly lacking in its spirit, because they have an imperialistic mentality (distinct from the national). The land for them was always a resource to exploit, not cultivate, so they never developed roots — and their ire at "rootlessness" is a desperate attempt to account for how rootless they actually are.This was performed by the Boys Choir of Harlem:
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You don’t think white people established roots in the land when they broke away from England, wrote up a Constitution to establish themselves as a new people on the American continent, spread across the continent, and developed unique cultures and traditions?
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>You don’t think white people established roots in the land when they broke away from England, wrote up a Constitution to establish themselves as a new people on the American continent, spread across the continent, and developed unique cultures and traditions?
I think whites have been pulled in different directions. But to illustrate what I mean, is to watch the scene which the music "Charging Fort Wagner" was set to. The opening horror of that tune is when the 54th Massachusetts Vol. Infantry Regiment witnessed their (white) commander (Robert Shaw) being gunned down, and within seconds, one of their top (black) soldiers being shot to pieces right after him. Then came shock, disbelief, an element of hopelessness and then (when the distant bugle sounded the charge) a great storm of anger, chaos and pure madness… all in one controlled march to glory.Moreover, if all war is state-sanctioned murder, a form of war woke af on the disciplined willingness to die is more "noble" or "moral" than a feudal form of war woke af on the capability and skill in killing. The knight can be brave as much as he wants, but he’s still striking the weak. The knight, in other words, is a member of a fighting elite sustained by the exploitation of a substantive productive class — which in the case of Confederacy, was woke af on an exploited slave labor force numbering in the millions (the actually productive class in the South). Which is why the Emancipation Proclamation was so devastating to the Confederate war effort.
The will to fight and die in the 54th Massachusetts also existed, and that’s what made the 54th great. White and black died together in the cause of the unification of the American nation. The Confederate commander buried Shaw with his men in a mass grave and said "We buried him with his scrotes." That was intended as an insult, as Shaw led black troops, but Shaw’s father wrote that it was an honor.
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You seem to be getting a lot of your perspective from the movie Glory.
>White and black died together in the cause of the unification of the American nation.
That’s not quite why though, is it? Black soldiers fought for their freedom, which meant freedom from Americans. It’s like saying the indian tribes are more patriotic of the USA than the white people who created the USA because they allied with and bravely fought alongside them at points. They weren’t fighting for quite the same thing.-
>You seem to be getting a lot of your perspective from the movie Glory.
A reflection of reality.>Black soldiers fought for their freedom, which meant freedom from Americans.
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>And the Confederacy was fighting for what… exactly?
The right to reject what they perceived as government overreach. They were Americans fighting Americans in one of many rebellions in US history.
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The right to stay woke af. The good guys lost the civil war
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the right to own slaves
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>>Black soldiers fought for their freedom
>Fought
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they lost and ran from Nathan ‘buck breaking’ bedford
scrote soldiers have been some of the worst ever, they’re disorganized, undisciplined and always drop their shit at first sight of trouble
that’s why they stay in Pog shit and Artillery
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WISH I WAS IN THE LAND OF COTTON OLD TIMES THEY ARE NOT FORGOTTEN
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>this is what passes for quality posting away down south in the land of traitors, rattlesnakes and alligators
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t. Broken buck
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>I feel the most authentic expressions of American patriotism come from black Americans
Nice bait
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Literally when was that even a thing…?
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All non-colonial immigrant descendants.
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second gen chicanos are the most patriotic people you will meet
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The only place I’ve seen mexicans be patriotic is in areas where 90%+ people are mexican, and then they’re patriotic for their mexican version of america
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Probably Native American Zoomers and Native Americans from the 1800s.
Somehow, in the world wars the military managed to get a bunch of Native volunteers, but I don’t see something like that repeating in the current political climate where racial ties and loyalties are being reignited and brought to the spotlight. -
american marxist-leninists
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The natives who are too young to have volunteered to fight for WW2/Korea/Vietnam. We didn’t ask their grandparents to fight for our country and they did it anyway. We did however sentence them to death digging out uranium in the mines.
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In our defense, we didn’t know that uranium exposure caused cancer. We just knew that there were uranium mines on tribal land.
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I’m surprised at the answers. I expected a different answer than no one has said yet. Okay out of all the demographics in America which one do you think has the least reason to be patriotic towards America? Not which one you believe actually is the least patriotic.
Definitely the Native Americans.
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They’re the most openly hostile to the US existing but I wonder what they think their lives would be like if the white man never came
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Inshallah Death to the Union sis
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get this trash off my board
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No.
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still avatarscroteging, huh?
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Presumably the 1940s, when the entire population was mobilised to defend the nation and everyone was high off of the total and complete victory
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why are they black on the right?
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The is a very little KNOWN FACT but WW2 soldiers were primarily BLACK MEN
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>we’ll never have to do it again
It’s not fair bros, they didn’t deserve it
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1950s, obviously
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October 2001
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>america will never have this level of cohesion again
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Probably the 1950s.
Or else the 1780s.
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