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    • #180131
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      >Do not stop at Dunkirk, crush the retreating, disorganized allies
      >Focus on the RAF during the Battle for Britain
      >After destroying the RAF, invade the island with ease because you destroyed most of the British forces back in Dunkirk and during that era British has very low amount of troops on island because of their colony focused policy
      >Go straight to Moscow during the Operation Barbarossa do not divide your forces
      >After taking down British and Soviets focus on USA and end the war with your superior technology and battle hardened troops

      It was really that simple. If Hitler wasn’t be such a moron we would all speak German by now.

    • #180132
      Anonymous
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      But he didn’t.

    • #180133
      Anonymous
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      >After destroying the RAF
      Wouldn’t happen.

    • #180134
      Anonymous
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      >Do not stop at Dunkirk, crush the retreating, disorganized allies
      maybe, a counter attack could fuck them like in 1914 though
      >Focus on the RAF during the Battle for Britain
      they did
      >After destroying the RAF
      "just destroy the RAF lol"
      >invade the island with ease because you destroyed most of the British forces back in Dunkirk
      I didn’t know the royal navy was in dunkirk
      >during that era British has very low amount of troops on island because of their colony focused policy
      exactly what you should be more worried about
      >Go straight to Moscow during the Operation Barbarossa do not divide your forces
      ok napoleon
      >After taking down British and Soviets
      itsjustthateasy.jpg
      >focus on USA and end the war
      what does that even mean, you gonna bomb new york?
      >superior technology
      freaking horses
      >and battle hardened troops
      I’ll give you that one

      • #180176
        Anonymous
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        I think OP is over reaching, but with the RAF destroyed, the Royal Navy would be at extreme risk of being sunk by the luftwaffe. Imagine dive bombers armed with torpedos. The Royal Navy needs air support to prevent a crossing. Once they have a beach head it would probably take several years to conquer the islands. The Royal Navy and new RAF will have a northern foothold making progressing north into Scotland a grind. Meanwhile you know either the US or Soviet Union makes a move. I find it hard to believe that the United States doesn’t all in on liberating the British isles. The whole country would freak out if Hitler controlled London.

        • #180179
          Anonymous
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          >but with the RAF destroyed
          Why do wehraboos keep skipping over how impossible this was?

          • #180181
            Anonymous
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            I never said if it was impossible or not, but the premise of anons statement was if it was destroyed.

    • #180135
      Anonymous
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      T.

      • #180152
        Anonymous
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        This but the telescope is up his own ass.

    • #180136
      Anonymous
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      >do not stop at Dunkirk
      they had to stop because the infantry needed to catch up especially since French troops were putting up a stubborn resistance against them to buy the Brits and other French troops time to escape, along with the fact if they continued their supply lines were at risk of being cut off which could jeopardize their quick victory
      >focus on RAF during Battle of Britain
      this was never a realistic option, Britain produced far more aircraft than the German did along with the fact if their planes got shot down they could easily recover the pilots which was not true for Germany
      >invade the islands with ease
      Literally no scenario where this is even feasible even if they destroyed the RAF simply because the British would still be able to field a significant amount of troops on the home islands, the royal navy would prevent any invasion from the sea, and trying to do an air invasion means the German can’t rely on heavy equipment or consistent resupply making it a shit show at best
      >go straight for Moscow
      then they would face massive Soviet armies on their flanks and even if they dealt with those they would still deal with Soviet counter attacks from the Urals
      >just go for the USA next with superior tech and troops
      Germany had no capacity to deal a critical blow against the US and their "superior" tech is meme tier at best (they lost the battle of the Atlantic because the allies surpassed them in tech)

    • #180137
      Anonymous
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      Sealion would’ve been such a freaking disaster, we would have a whole category of memes for it.

    • #180138
      Anonymous
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      there wasn’t much hope of Operation Sealion or Barbarossa succeeding, Hitler should have just focussed on north Africa and the Balkans and dug in until the bongs accept a ceasefire

    • #180139
      Anonymous
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      >Just take a fortified city manned by motivated defenders who are willing to die to protect it. It’ll be easy just like in Kiev, Leningrad and Stalingrad. It worked well in Turin so attempting to take Moscow MUST have meant that the Wehrmacht could have taken it.

    • #180141
      Anonymous
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      Just destroy the RAF bro

    • #180142
      Anonymous
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      >After destroying the RAF

      shhh shhh wehrboo shhhh

      • #180145
        Anonymous
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        this

    • #180144
      Anonymous
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      >Go straight to Moscow during the Operation Barbarossa do not divide your forces
      Entire German army gets cut off in a blunder that makes Stalingrad look like a birthday party.

      • #180146
        Anonymous
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        The plan called for Moscow too be surrounded, then turned into a lake via constant bombardment

        • #180150
          Anonymous
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          and that plans means nothing when your own army gets surrounded since you thought it would be a great idea to make a beeline for one of most heavily fortified areas in the world

          • #180154
            Anonymous
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            To be fair, the plan does have merits if Hitler can get his troops to not act like the scrotebrained monkeys they did in massacring and turning the Russian peasantry against them. I’m not very knowledgeable on that subject though so take it with a grain of salt.

            • #180159
              Anonymous
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              thats going to be hard when part of Hitlers plan was to get rid large swaths of the slavic population and leave the rest as second class citizens for German colonies

    • #180147
      Anonymous
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      Assuming all the things regarding the UK and Russia would work (they wouldn’t but people have already debunked that), there’s no way Germany beats America.

      • #180148
        Anonymous
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        >there’s no way Germany beats America.
        Kek, you keep believing that Jamal. Your army was not some unstoppable force.

        • #180149
          Anonymous
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          >Your army was not some unstoppable force
          actually it was.

        • #180156
          Anonymous
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          We would’ve nuked Berlin you scrote.

          • #180160
            Anonymous
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            Sure thing, Paolo. Sure you would.

            • #180161
              Anonymous
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              Germans were way behind wrt the bomb. Even if they took out Russia and U.K. all their scrotegy science fiction weapon projects would’ve stalled just the same as their heavy water production did. A blitzkrieg strike on the US would never have worked like it did in Europe, and once the war turned into a drawn-out war of attrition on American soil the Germans would’ve stalled just like they did in Russia. Then we would’ve dropped the big one, ending your antimodern modernist scrotegy little Reich.

            • #180162
              Anonymous
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              Actually he’s right. The plan was that if Britain was forced out of the war, the US would basically go full atomic weapons production. The B-36 peacemaker was designed as the delivery system that would allow us to drop nuclear weapons on German cities without a European air base.

              • #180166
                Anonymous
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                Colonel Potter and Jimmy Stewart bombing Berlin in a B-36

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QweXxbzvX1k

                • #180168
                  Anonymous
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                  Yah. That plane was the first platform specifically designed to deliver nuclear weapons and was capable of doing so at intercontinental ranges. It had first been ordered in the early 1940s and would have been used to destroy German cities with nuclear weapons had Britain fallen. It would have also been deployed against Japan.

        • #180169
          Anonymous
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          during WW2 it literally was, Huge population, supplied by literally the majority of the worlds manufacturing capacity.
          Say it with me GERMANY COULD NOT HAVE WON WW2

        • #180171
          Anonymous
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          tbh it really was… germany had zero chance of matching american materiel and manufacturing without inflicting some total black swan decisive strike, and i can’t see how they’d ever have done that either
          it’s actually frightening when you think america wasn’t at any point in a total war economy

          • #180172
            Anonymous
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            the nazis werent even in a full war economy until 1944

            • #180173
              Anonymous
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              And even at full war economy they still came nowhere close to American production.

    • #180151
      Anonymous
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      >you will never live in the timeline where Operation Sealion actually happened and whatever troops Germany managed to slip by the RN all get btfo by flame fougasses and all the other wacky tricks the Home Army dreamed up

    • #180153
      Anonymous
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      You can see Dover from Calais. I don’t get it. Were there ships or planes in between? Just shoot them lmao. Don’t even focus on cities. Just shoot the ships and planes.

    • #180155
      Anonymous
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    • #180158
      Anonymous
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      >we would all speak German by now
      There’s still time. Just take lessons on Duolingo and travel there when you feel confident. I’d love to do that and go for the boardgame festival in Essen.

    • #180163
      Anonymous
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      >After destroying the RAF
      Your plan has already failed at this point

    • #180164
      Anonymous
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      He was just too autistic and didn’t understand that war meant it total freaking war. He thought he could rekindle a relationship with the Anglos.

      • #180170
        Anonymous
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        he literally announced total war before the battle of britain, and commenced civillain bombing. Germany underestimated the size of the RAF, and the RAF overestimated the size of the Luftwaffe. Combined with the brits being able to recover their pilots while the germs couldnt the battle of britain was not actually close. They didnt even have to abandon their southern airfields and move to the midlands or bring in the Royal Navy to us as additional support.

    • #180165
      Anonymous
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      >put even more effort into contesting the RAF
      >Luftwaffe freaking implodes in 1941 and Germany goes bankrupt in 1942 from Goering embezzling everything he can to buy more morphine

    • #180167
      Anonymous
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      Are you for real? >Focus on the RAF Do you even hear yourself? What does that mean? >After destroying the RAF What do you think they were trying to do during the Battle of Britain? In 1940, Britain produced 5000 more airframes than Germany. In 1941, Britain produced 8000 more airframes than Germany. The only two years where Germany outproduced Britain in this regard were 1939 and 1944. In terms of aircraft engines, Germany NEVER outproduced Britain. Nigel is getting trained fighter pilots from across the world thanks to the Commonwealth. What’s your plan? Throw rookies at the RAF when all of your experienced pilots get killed or captured? Great, now Nigel gets to brag about his 100:1 k/d in the air instead of the dumb wehraboos who do it today. What? Are they going to surrender because you blew up their airfields in Kent?

    • #180174
      Anonymous
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      I would be speaking Japanese, so it’s probably for the best.

      • #180175
        Anonymous
        Guest

        But that’s woke af. Why would you not want to speeak Nipponese?

    • #180177
      Anonymous
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      Is this the HOI4 thread?
      Give me an achievement to go for.

    • #180178
      Anonymous
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      Yes OP, I too played Panzer General and Panzer Corps. By the time my elite army of Tigers, Panthers, and Jets defeated Patton in Colorado, there was nothing stopping my crossing over the Rocky Mountains to capture the last garden gnomes in California.

    • #180180
      Anonymous
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      should have stuck to the plan to invade britain with the soviets, let them katyn churchill and his band of britcucks

      they’d be greeted as liberators

      • #180183
        Anonymous
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        Woke af nazbol alliance.

    • #180182
      Anonymous
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      >invade the island with ease because you destroyed most of the British forces back in Dunkirk and during that era British has very low amount of troops on island because of their colony focused policy
      good thing the british don’t have any fleets that they keep for this exact purpose

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