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    • #56958
      Anonymous
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      Was there ever a crazy conspiracy theory that turned out to be true?

    • #56959
      Anonymous
      Guest

      MK Ultra
      Blue Book

    • #56962
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Japan (or s korea i can’t remember) is run by a cabal of women.

      • #56963
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This, the S korea scandal was crazy

        • #56977
          Anonymous
          Guest

          What’s this? Background?

          • #56984
            Anonymous
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            QRD?

            The president of South Korea was impeached in 2016 and later removed from office when it was discovered that she had been manipulated for decades by a personal acquaintance and daughter of an infamous cult leader. The corruption ran deep through her cabinet and political allies, and dozens of cases of extortion, bribery, perjury, etc. were all brought to light in a massive string of arrests and court cases. It was an unprecedented level of corruption and frankly the kind of thing you’d never have expected unless you had an ounce of faith in conspiracy theories.

        • #56983
          Anonymous
          Guest

          QRD?

          • #56985
            Anonymous
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            • #57017
              Anonymous
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              There was a similar screenshot I saw once about Korean women that wanted to murder all men.

              • #57054
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I wonder if the 8 goddesses were behind that movement.

                • #57074
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  they were

        • #57064
          Anonymous
          Guest

          And it got memoryholed real fast too.

      • #56974
        Anonymous
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        That’s not really a conspiracy theory. The original post where that appeared just asserted the usual MGOTW claims that women (particularly in East Asia but really anywhere around the world) are supposedly the ones actually in control of society because men do lots of shit for the sake of pleasing them, but then again, that’s more of an ideological posture than anything that could be either directly proven or disproved for certain.

        • #57029
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The 8 goddesses is real, dude.

    • #56965
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The Earth being round like some sort of heavenly uni-titty

    • #56966
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Basically everything the CIA has ever touched is like reading the plot to either a classic Pulp novella or a Metal Gear game.

      • #57083
        Anonymous
        Guest

        CIA started as a mom and pops front for the FBI in East Florida (another country now). Whom monitored Cuban and Dixie (single nation once) interactions. They are newly individualized countries because someone found it necessary that their coupons are redeemable in Clearwater despite difference in culture. Or Land Owe/Or Guy Owe/Orgullo.

        • #57084
          Anonymous
          Guest

          When you go to the US you have to be someone’s henchman. White (probably meet an Irish and become a victim of Turk through both, become the henchmen of Russia and become victim of Chinese), Black (Meet a Senegalese and get the hate of South Africa), Chinese (Just a try ad and become enemy of Indichin which no one wants because they cast genocide attempt.)

          • #57086
            Anonymous
            Guest

            When you go to the US you go to legal court and they make you tswaron on the bible. Do you think it’s necessary or a psychological ploy it’s the only country in the world that makes you do that.

    • #56967
      Anonymous
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      Blackwater
      Teapot dome
      9/11
      Crack cocaine
      Mk ultra
      Reynolds doctrine
      Lavant affair
      Great Leap Forward
      Purges
      Hippie communes
      KKK
      The state of Ohio
      All considered ridiculous conspiritard nonsense
      All absolutely correct and the detractors suspiciously silent having been proven wrong

      • #56968
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Some of these are incredibly vague.

      • #56970
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >The state of Ohio

        As someone from Michigan I still have no idea what you are referring to but I am intrigued. Is Ohio an inside job?

        • #56976
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Ohio is an actual real state and not an anomalous smudge on the map

        • #56980
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I think he is referring to that one Ohio post

        • #57066
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Ohio is a tulpa created by Stipe Miocic, open your eyes and see the truth.

      • #57070
        Anonymous
        Guest

        COINTELPRO
        Gateway Process/Remote Viewing/Government employed psychics

    • #56969
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Operation Northwoods is a CONFIRMED CIA conspiracy to stage Cuban terrorist attacks to have US general population support Cuban invasion

      • #57079
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Why would they support that. I was sent a message for New Years and those motherfuckers are happier than you and I. You can’t even go there. Why would they go anywhere? Cuba is just a legal entity for recertification of produce. Nothing more. Whoever gets embargoed by Europe gets Cuban pass.
        Most situation lies in a lie with an enabling mechanism they can afford. It’s been hectic.

        • #57080
          Anonymous
          Guest

          If you bring in two enemies, the third is the charm. Any country doing that is just buying into a war. You have all rights to renounce it. You have Korean and Japs who are at war with the Indochinese who are at war with Australia who hate Africans whom hates Europe because they have all genocides against eachother. How would you expect anything to progress. Just letting an American in is inviting a war. From what I heard there is nothing but the convertible over there.

    • #56971
      Anonymous
      Guest

      almost all of them
      speaking sincerely it is nearly impossible to came up with conspiracy theory that would sound non-realistic
      why?
      1% is a pure evil made thru generations of negative selection and the enemy of mankind

      • #56981
        Anonymous
        Guest

        you’re a big conspiracy theorist

        • #57031
          Anonymous
          Guest

          For you

    • #56972
      Anonymous
      Guest

      golf rumours.

    • #56973
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Canada built a machine to test government employees’ reactions to seeing gay porn, compiling a list of several thousand "suspected" gays and firing several hundred.
      Funding for the project eventually stopped when the Canadian government realized that every person in Canada was, in fact, a homosexual.

      • #56990
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This is just too good, how will Canadians ever recover

        • #56999
          Anonymous
          Guest

          This is how the canucks will fall

          >Canada has an historic disregard and disdain for homosexuals whose legacy lingers in the gov’t to this day
          >LMAO, LEAFZ R GAE
          Never change, retards.

          • #57030
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Your prime minister prances around in wet shirts waving rainbow flags at pride parades.

      • #56993
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This is how the canucks will fall

      • #57055
        Anonymous
        Guest

        They stopped when they realized their testing was flawed. Don’t know if anyone who was falsely accused got their job back though.

    • #56975
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes, that Bryan Harnell is the Zodiac killer.

      • #56979
        Anonymous
        Guest

        gaikowski is

      • #56982
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >both had glasses
        whoa anon you might be on to something

        • #57028
          Anonymous
          Guest

          you’re right…. in the sketch "Z" looks like he’s some squared away military veteran

          while in real life the Boyfriend looked like the poster boy for a happy go lucky guy from the swinging 60s picked out of central casting, and he was taller than Z was described in the presidio heights attack

          but…

          You do realize that’s a police sketch

          In the sketch the eyeglasses lay in the same position on his face and they have the same type of mouth.

          But there’s a 2nd sketch from the presidio heights which looks nothing like this guy and if the people who gave the description could have seen the boyfriend would they have recognized him as the man they saw?

          but also

          let’s not forget this guy miraculously escaped a "Z" knife attack

          which lets also not forget that this was the only "confirmed" "Z" knife attack

          and that he was a Psychology major… maybe he started doing research into Murderers at the time

          and that "Z" initially reported a Murder but that he probably tripped up with his Buddy (the Boyfriend at lake berryessa) and pronounced it a double murder

          If he stalked the couple he would know that noone was around and he would have made sure he was dead

          As far as I’m concerned he’s my strongest possible suspect

          and the best possible outcome from the cracking of the 340 letter is that Z (Brian Hartnell) will reach out again and slip up.

      • #57010
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Disregarding the fact that this would mean he somehow stabbed himself in the back convincingly multiple times, hartnell is way too tall to meet any witness description of zodiac

    • #56978
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I’M TELL YOU MAN! THE NAZIS AREN’T "DEPORTING" THE garden gnomeS! THEY’RE SENDING TO SS DEATH CAMPS WHERE THEY KILL ‘EM WITH INDUSTRIAL PESTICIDE, INCINERATE THEIR BODIES TO GET RID OF THE EVIDENCE, AND DISTRIBUTE THEIR STOLEN PROPERTY AS GIBSMEDAT TO THE MASSES! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

      -Alexander Jonesteinberg shortly before he was arrested and disappeared by the Gestapo

      • #57001
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >INDUSTRIAL PESTICIDE
        No, steam showers.

    • #56989
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Most do

    • #56991
      Anonymous
      Guest

      gnomish cabal manipulating America to force the Israeli hegemony over the Middle East

      • #57023
        Anonymous
        Guest

        The truth is way more retarded than this

      • #57034
        Anonymous
        Guest

        America is ruled by a business oligarch cabal, few of them are actual garden gnomes.

        • #57045
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >business oligarch cabal
          >few of them are actual garden gnomes

          You’re so, SO close.

          • #57046
            Anonymous
            Guest

            What then,
            are they all garden gnomes?
            Are they all fremasons?
            Are all freemasons just shabos goyim for the garden gnome?

            • #57058
              Anonymous
              Guest

              garden gnomes are useful idiots for the cabal. Always have been.

              • #57059
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >cabal
                Isnt that literally a gnomish word tho?

    • #56997
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The CIA nuclear experiments and medical testing during the Cold War is borderline schizo conspiracy stuff.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1
      Quick rundown

    • #56998
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Plenty of conspiracies about the CIA were actually tamer than the actual truth.

      • #57018
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Such as?

        • #57021
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The Finders, etc etc.

          Quick reminder that pre-Snowden it was a Conspiracy Theory that the US Government was spying on it’s own citizen.

          • #57022
            Anonymous
            Guest
          • #57035
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Quick reminder that pre-Snowden it was a Conspiracy Theory that the US Government was spying on it’s own citizen.
            Nah pretty sure that was around with the patriot act.

            • #57038
              Anonymous
              Guest

              The Patriot Act gave them the right to spy on specific US citizens, given that the alphabet agencies first acquired warrant from a court.
              The conspiracy theory was that the US was using this legal framework as a trojan horse to spy on all citizens indiscriminately (and illegally), which is what Snowden confirmed to the public.
              Pretty crazy that a conspiracy theory so mainstream that it became plot points in blockbuster movies ended up being not only true, but even worse than we thought.

              • #57040
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I hadn’t follow this. Did they got a warrant for everyone or just said ‘gently caress it’ and spied regardless?

                • #57041
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  The way the Patriot Act works, iirc:
                  >this US citizen is best friends with a guy from Syria, we want a "do whatever the gently caress I want" warrant to spy on this guy
                  >>Court says "OK here you go"
                  As it is, the system is so lax that the NSA or whoever could spy on any specific person that they wanted for pretty much any reason they could conjure.

                  What Snowden revealed was that in addition to targeted spying of the friend of a friend of an arab guy who went to mosque 8 years ago, the intelligence community had also developed tools that allowed them to collect massive amounts of data on virtually every person in the western world (none of this was contained the US).
                  Telecom and tech corps collaborated with the US govt. to give them backdoor access into their systems, and these intelligence agency tools would basically passively drag those systems and collect every piece of data that fit whatever they were filtering for.
                  For example: they monitored your phone calls, recorded the location of both speakers during the call, had an algorithm transcribe the contents of the call, and ran the transcription through a filter of flagged ‘no-no’ words. Get flagged for saying too many of those words and the agency will follow up with more targeted spying of you specifically.
                  There were other functions being performed, but that’s the one that Snowden has talked about the most in all his interviews.

                  >Did they get a warrant for everyone
                  No, very few people actually knew for certain that any of this even existed.

    • #57000
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Gulf of Tonkin being a false flag.

    • #57003
      Anonymous
      Guest

      like all of them?

    • #57005
      Anonymous
      Guest

      16th Street Baptist Church Bombing – FBI closed an investigation into a KKK-organised church bombing in 1963 that killed 4 children, despite knowing the suspects, they refused to share information with police and blocked them from being charged with federal crimes until 1977.
      Acteal Massacre – 45 indigenous people who were part of nonviolent anti-government activist groups praying in Mexico are shot by paramilitaries in 1997, with it being revealed in 2020 that the Mexican government was responsible for the massacre.
      Albanian Subversion – USA and UK try to overthrow government of Albania using ex-nazis, fascists and anti-communists from 1949 to 1953.
      Andre Cools – Belgian socialist politician was shot and killed in 1991, exposing massive corruption in the two major socialist parties of Belgium.
      Angolagate – French government secretly buying weapons from Central Europe and selling them to Angola during a civil war in the 1990s in exchange for oil.
      Aseveliakseli (Finnish Wikipedia) – CIA funds political parties in Finland throughout the Cold War.
      Ballets Roses – Politicians in 1950s France attended ballets by teenage girls that ended in orgies.
      Battalion 3-16 – CIA trained army batallion in Honduras responsible for killing and kidnapping political enemies in the 1980s
      Belgian stay-behind-network – Belgian deep state possibly linked to neo-nazis and terrorism.
      Betty Van Patten – Black Panther Party bookkeeper found murdered in 1974, likely by the Party.

      • #57006
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts – Pakistan covertly funding terrorism and insurgencies in India to undermine the state.
        Bob Denard – French soldier and mercenary who overthrew and attacked multiple African governments during the Cold War. Related to Francafrique.
        Bhanwari Devi – Indian midwife who slept with multiple high-ranking politicians killed after trying to blackmail them in 2011.
        Cannes and Nice attacks – Rare example of a non-state and non-corporate conspiracy on this list, neo-nazis bombed immigrant hostels in France in 1988 and attempted to frame the French gnomish community in order to provoke a race war between French garden gnomes and French Arabs.
        Chicago Seven – Arrest of 8 left-wing political organisers in Chicago following a riot started by police. Trial involved jury tampering, a biased judge, gagging and chaining a defendant, wiretapping and ignoring key witnesses.
        Chico Mendes – Brazilian union leader, environmentalist and indigenous rights activists murdered by wealthy landowners in 1986.
        CIA activities in Laos – From 1964 to 1973, the CIA dropped 270 million bombs on Laos. Feel free to do the terrifying math on that and calculate bombs dropped per month, week, day and hour. They also got involved in drug trafficking!
        Corruption in Mauritius – So bad it needs its own article, covering 27 events since 1979 to 2020 from simple bribery networks to murder of political activists.
        Craig Williamson – Spy who carried out terrorist attacks and assassinations for the South African government in the 1980s.
        Chuka Massacre – British soldiers killed 20 unarmed civilians, including 1 child, in Kenya in 1953. Military investigation findings are never made public, the government initially denies the massacre and there are massive obstructions of justice.

        • #57007
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Coniston Massacre – Australian police and vigilantes kill between 31 and 200 people in a single massacre in 1928. The government attempts to minimise wrongdoing by the police in the eyes of the public.
          Daniel Morgan – Private investigator investigating police corruption murdered with an axe in a pub car park in London in 1987.
          Daphne Caruana Galizia – Maltese journalist who exposed political and corporate corruption despite being arrested multiple times and threatened with libel, she was eventually killed in a car bombing.
          Dikko Affair – Nigeria and Israel tried to kidnap a Nigerian ex-government man in London… in 1984. You gotta admire intelligence agencies for their humour sometimes.
          Dioxin Affair – Belgian government covers up contaminated meat and eggs being sold throughout the country.
          Dirty Thirty) – At least 35 NYPD cops were involved in drug trafficking until being caught in the 1990s.
          Eileen Sarmenta and Allan Gomez – Two Filipino university student murdered and raped by a corrupt mayor in 1993.
          Enrico Mattei – powerful Italian civil servant who built the state-run oil industry killed by a plane bombing by an unknown group.
          FBI-MLK Suicide Letter – FBI tried to make MLK kill himself in 1964.
          FIFA Corruption Case – Senior members of FIFA engaged in fraud and money laundering.

          • #57008
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Filiberto Ojeda Rios – FBI agents kill Puerto Rican revolutionary and fugitive in a shootou in 2005. The shootout broke local laws and the FBI used military-grade weapons against a civilian, blocked medical personnel from the area and delayed access for Puerto Rican forensic scientists investigating the crime scene.
            Francafrique – System of political, military and financial power that France uses to retain power over former African colonies.
            Fred Hampton – Him and another Black Panther Party member were murdered in a raid on his apartment, police lied about what happened during the shootout, claiming they were far more threatened than forensics indicated they were.
            French Connection – Massive criminal scheme from the 1940s to the 1970s of transporting opium from Turkey to France, where it was made into heroin and then shipped to the USA. It operated under the protection of the CIA in exchange for the mafia bullying political enemies of the USA in France.
            Gerald Bull – Canadian weapons engineer who wanted to make a gun so powerful the Iraqi government could launch things into space. Shot outside his apartment in Belgium in 1990, although officially unsolved, Israel and Iran are the main suspects. Although the USA, UK, Chile, Syria, Iraq and South Africa are all suspects.
            Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist – presented without comment
            Guns for Antigua – The government of Antigua and Barbuda bought Israeli weapons using US money and secretly gave them to Colombian drug cartels throughout the 1980s.
            Gustafen Lake standoff – Standoff between indigenous protesters and Canadian police in 1995, Canadian government leads a smear campaign and plants an IED.
            Iguala Mass Kidnapping – Mexican police, working with cartels, kidnap 43 student activists from a teachers college in 2014. They are still missing to this day.

            • #57009
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Jackson State Killings – In 1970 police confront a violent (throwing rocks and molotovs) anti-war protest and attack, killing 2 people and injuring 12, including shooting people fleeing. They lied and claimed they were under attack by anti-war snipers. (+ Orangeburg Massacre + Kent State Shootings)
              Jan Kuciak – Slovakian journalist and his wife are murdered by hitmen in 2018 hired by a company after he investigated tax evasion by said company.
              Jean Seberg – FBI conducts a smear campaign against a Black Panther Party supporter, claiming she was impregnated by a Black Panther Party member, the harassment became so severe the stress led her to miscarry and commit suicide in 1979.
              Jeffrey Epstein – you know this one, even if you believe he killed himself he did set up a conspiracy.
              Juanita Nielsen – Journalist in Sydney, Australia disappears after investigating and doing activism against the Mafia and police corruption in 1975.
              Kafr Qasim Massacre – Israeli Police murder 48 people including 23 children who were returning from work and school since they violated a recently placed curfew of which they were unaware had been created. This was in 1956 and an apology was only given in 2007.
              Karel Van Noppen – Government health inspector in Belgium shot in 1995 after exposing law violations in the meat industry.
              Kashmir Princess – Plane going from India to Indonesia carrying a notable Chinese politician in 1955. It was blown up by an unknown group, although presumably the KMT. It also failed to kill the politician who missed the flight for medical reasons.
              Koki Ishii – Japanese Politician murdered in 2002 after investigating government corruption, embezzlement and tax evasion by major Japanese corporations. He is killed by a Yakuza member in suspicious circumstances, his suitcase had documents removed from it after the murder and his diary went missing.
              LaVena Johnson – just a sad story

    • #57011
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Lavender Scare – US government decides to fire all gay people working for the government in the 1950s, firing 5,000 people.
      List of Apartheid Assassinations – so big it needs its own article, 20 confirmed assassinations.
      List of CIA Controversies – so big it needs its own article, covers 15 major controversies.
      List of Iranian Assassinations – so big it needs its own article, 10 confirmed assassinations, 10 suspected.
      List of Israeli Assassinations – so big it needs its own article, I can’t count this one 🙁
      List of Russian Assassinations – so big it needs its own article, 120 assassinations listed.
      Mack Charles Backer – Black guy accused of raping a pregnant white woman in 1959 was lynched. Judge refused to give evidence to the FBI nor accept FBI testimony, nobody was arrested despite multiple confessions.
      Mafia Capitale – Mafia infriltrates the city government of Rome to embezzle and launder taxpayer money for criminal activities between 1999 and 2014.
      Manhattan Project – Conspiracy that nobody thinks is a conspiracy.
      Mani Pulite – Massive political corruption scandal in Italy. As many as 5,000 public figures fell under suspicion. At one point, more than half of the members of the Italian Parliament were under indictment, while more than 400 city and town councils were dissolved because of corruption charges. The estimated value of bribes paid annually in the 1980s by Italian and foreign companies bidding for large government contracts reached US$4 billion dollars.
      Marc Dutroux – Belgian serial killer and child rapist who was being protected by police. At least 4 witnesses connected to the case were murdered, although 16 others died in ways considered suspicious (suicides and car crashes).

    • #57024
      Anonymous
      Guest

      UFOs weren’t being covered up by the government, the UFO conspiracy was manufactured and encouraged by the government in order to provide smokescreen for real advancement in jet and stealth technology.

      • #57027
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Very possible. It was convenient for the pleb to believe in UFOs.

      • #57097
        Anonymous
        Guest

        That doesn’t make sense
        At BEST you stop citizens impotently complaining about military R&D.
        You’re not going to convince other countries govt’s that it was really aliens.
        It would really be an elaborate scheme so everyone can pretend you’re not doing what everyone knows you’re already doing.

    • #57025
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >ctrl+f
      >"kgb"
      >0/0
      :-/

      • #57044
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >KGB
        it was 99,9% of the time killing and raping freedom fighters in commie tyrannies. Thats why in most of the eastern bloc, only commies were the ones who created governments after the URSS fall (e.g. Romania, Belarus, Ukraine)
        The rest were funding and checking up on thirld world commie parties (Chile, Nicaragua, etc.)

        So pretty boring

      • #57047
        Anonymous
        Guest

        name one (1) bad thing they did

        • #57048
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >killing people who want to overthrow corrupt juntas that bowed to Moscow and disregarded everything in their host countries
          >not bad

          • #57049
            Anonymous
            Guest

            reminder that a revolution has to decend itself. gently caress you

            • #57050
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Revolution that ends in defacto genocidal monarchy or olygarchy because thats how life works

              • #57051
                Anonymous
                Guest

                do not remember americans having problems with either of these

                • #57087
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >american revolution
                  >same to Marxist shit
                  Try your sophisms on reddit, gnomish tranny

                  • #57088
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >CIAcuck
                    >call others gnomish tranny
                    no self-awareness as usual

        • #57063
          Anonymous
          Guest

          As far as conspiracy theories goes,
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION

    • #57026
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The CIA and FBI were targeting civil rights leaders and facilitated the deaths of many of them.

    • #57032
      Anon
      Guest

      I wish every day the reptilians theory was true.

    • #57036
      Anonymous
      Guest

      covid as a ccp plot to destabilise foreign economies and buy them out with belt and road

      • #57039
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Too big gamble to be true

    • #57037
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I think the most crazy conspiracy that was 100% true was the Propaganda Due in Italy.
      A literal shadow government criminal organization formed from freemasonic lodge.

    • #57043
      Anonymous
      Guest
    • #57052
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Anyone else get a craving for Chinese food?

    • #57061
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The Pazzi Conspiracy was such a mess that started like a simple assassination and coup turn into such a massive shitshow that ended with the Pazzi family being nearly wiped from all historical records
      >Pazzis and Medicis are rivals
      >New Pope Sixtus IV is corrupt as gently caress, wants to incorporate more land into the Papal States so he helps his nephews buy entire cities by financing them. Also wants to expand the Papal banking system.
      >Pazzis proposes to the Pope to off the Medicis and sieze their holdings.
      >Pope says "sorry boys I can’t kill, I’m the Pope, but I want a change in government in Florence, and you have permission to enact that through any means necessary. *wink*"
      >Pazzis with Papal support and other allies that resent the Medicis attempt to assassinate the two heads of the family during Easter Mass.
      >Giuliano the handsome popular one, gets the gently caress murdered out of him, stabbed 19 times in the chest before having a sword put through his head
      >Lorenzo the cunning one gets seriously injured but survives.
      >Turns out the Florentine people actually liked the Medicis (also Lorenzo wants revenge) so over 80 conspirators (and suspected conspirators) get captured and executed.
      >Their property gets confiscated. The Pazzi name is banned, anyone with the same name but unrelated has to legally change their names. Any streets named Pazzi are renamed. All records of the family purged from Florentine records.
      >Pope gets assmad and mini-excommunicates Florence for a few years (all rites and ceremonies are unrecognized, mass is unsanctioned by the church)

    • #57062
      Anonymous
      Guest

      P2 in Italy is absolutely shocking, especially considering it was revealed only in the 1980s

      >Propaganda Due was a Masonic lodge under the Grand Orient of Italy, founded in 1877. Its Masonic charter was withdrawn in 1976, and it transformed into a clandestine, pseudo-Masonic, ultraright organization operating in contravention of Article 18 of the Constitution of Italy that banned secret associations. In its latter period, during which the lodge was headed by Licio Gelli, P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the collapse of the Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, the murders of journalist Mino Pecorelli and banker Roberto Calvi, and corruption cases within the nationwide bribe scandal Tangentopoli. P2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of Michele Sindona’s financial empire.
      >P2 was sometimes referred to as a "state within a state" or a "shadow government". The lodge had among its members prominent journalists, members of parliament, industrialists, and military leaders—including Silvio Berlusconi, who later became Prime Minister of Italy; the Savoy pretender to the Italian throne Victor Emmanuel; and the heads of all three Italian intelligence services (at the time SISDE, SISMI and CESIS).

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

    • #57065
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >pedo cardinals
      >nato gladius
      >cold war star wars
      >secret acdc computer worm (see iran nuclear sabotage)
      >plant vibrations used to hack pentagon
      >ussr half monkey supersoldat programme
      >nazi norsk breeding prigramme (see: ABBA)

    • #57067
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Qanon being true, the Deep State existing and them working with Iran and our adversies, and the election being stolen. History will come out and vindicate the President for standing up against the fraud fake election of 2020.

    • #57068
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Remember that crazy time when it was revealed that Dick Cheney knowingly falsified intelligence briefings about Iraq having secret WMDs in order to justify what turned out to be an unprovoked war of aggression, and then the media just let it go and nobody was ever prosecuted despite this lie basically destroying an entire region of the world and spawning thousands of terrorist attacks?

      • #57072
        Anonymous
        Guest

        As insane as it is, it’s just a continuation of America’s policy in the Middle East (and elsewhere) from last century.
        As for the media. Criticizing the War on Terror on the surface would have opened the door to analyzing our involvement in the Third World’s affairs on a deeper and more harmful (to the status quo) level.
        Also, relaying to the American public that we are in fact the villains in this story wouldn’t be very good for ratings.

    • #57073
      Anonymous
      Guest

      […]

      >Implying the state cares about eugenics
      I wish. If they are, they are deeply misguided, like in the early days they thought contraceptives and feminism is eugenic, when in reality, the opposite is true

    • #57075
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Jeffrey Epstein’s pedo island.

      • #57076
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Note, I find this one significant because a bunch of tinfoilers talked about it years before the sandal revealed.

      • #57077
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Jeffrey Epstein
        >Pedo
        He clearly was an ephebophile and his girls would be legal in most of Europe (and the world)

        • #57078
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Surface level shit. Whatever they got up to inside the Babylonian styled symbolic buildings was probably decidedly much more sinister than this.

        • #57082
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You’re understating what he did. Epstein could have been a sex tourist (he certainly had the wealth) but didn’t want that, instead he set up an elaborate sex ring. For whatever reason, he wanted to violate the law. A think certain people get off at transgressing social norms and deliberately take risks.

          • #57099
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Or he just wanted the convenience of having high quality young prostitutes easily accessible for him and his friends.
            Why go all over the world for sex tourism when you can set up your own ring with the women who suit your tastes in an environment you have control over?
            It’s like the difference between renting and owning. If you have the money there’s no reason NOT to own.

    • #57085
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Liberals? The traditional European monarchies did consider that scheming liberals wanted to overthrow them. They did and this fielded eventual revolutions.

    • #57089
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The collapse of communism in Poland was a controlled demolition organized by the communists in power.

      The communist government first cracked down on the opposition, enacting martial law, imprisoning many, but eventually after several years they agreed to negotiate with opposition leaders (of their choosing – others were labelled as too radical and non-constructive) and eventually gave up power. We now know that pretty much all the opposition leaders that the government chose to negotiate with worked for the communist security service, including the first post-communist president Walesa who received a Nobel Peace Prize.

      Part of the deal was not prosecuting (or even closely investigating) any of the communist elite, so the communists remained in power in most institutions, including courts and even in industry, going from communist functionaries to rich owners of formerly state-owned businesses.

      • #57090
        Anonymous
        Guest

        And the funniest event in the story of that conspiracy theory is the government collapse in 1991:

        >coalition government run by opposition leaders is in power, opposition leader Walesa is president
        >when nobody is paying much attention, low-level parliamentarians pass a bill that requires the ministry of the interior to compile a list of all the people in major state and political positions who have been agents of the communist intelligence
        >suddenly everyone goes apeshit
        >president dissolves the government overnight
        >we now know it was because all the opposition leaders including the presidents were on that list

        • #57091
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >when nobody is paying much attention, low-level parliamentarians pass a bill that requires the ministry of the interior to compile a list of all the people in major state and political positions who have been agents of the communist intelligence

          Imagine that kids that are spoon-fed with rightist propaganda still believe this shit.

          The who shitshow was an attempted coup by the right-wing backbenchers against Solidarity establishment. Before 1991 nobody even saw being an informer as something bad. Because when you were in opposition, it was seen as normal that the secret police might torture and break you. The way they did it was horrific sometimes. Chrzanowski for instance was almost drowned in a toilet, while Kuron was literally raped in prison after he was intentionally locked together with worst degenerates.

          The whole point was to ignore those "side details" and present the Solidarity establishment as communist party stooges, so that they will be easy to topple.

          • #57092
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >yes this is correct but you are missing the details
            Post nose

          • #57093
            Anonymous
            Guest

            So you agree (I mean, it’s hard to disagree since we have the facts these days) that the opposition leaders worked for the communist establishment, and your only objection is that they may have been forced to work for them and that revealing the truth is right-wing propaganda?

            • #57094
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Because this is malicious twisting of facts, for the purpose of political infighting.

              Could someone who had been forced to sign "lojalka" by repeated prison rapes by honestly considered as "working for communists"? It’s like saying that Polish slave labor in concentration camps were collaborators.

              Secondly, should such sensitive issues even be made public during said persons’ lifetimes? There’s a reason why civilized nations have "lifetime+50 years" rule for publishing of archives.

              • #57095
                Anonymous
                Guest

                It is not the signing of whatever and thus becoming compromised that is the problem, it’s proceeding to go into politics and other activity while being compromised and thus unable to oppose your masters, and also being complicit in smearing and destroying the reputations and livelihoods of people who would reveal the truth.

                The thread is about conspiracy theories that turned out to be true, and the opposition leaders including Walesa being compromised got you smeared as a conspiracy nut in the early 90s. Now that his position is untenable you lot have switched to saying the truth is irrelevant and it is a political smear to reveal that people who we know for a fact have been compromised were compromised.

              • #57096
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >It’s like saying that Polish slave labor in concentration camps were collaborators
                they were

              • #57100
                Anonymous
                Guest

                If the people you supposedly oppose have means of blackmailing you, you can either not go into politics (where you will have to do their bidding, because they can blackmail you), or you can come clean about the truth, in which case they can no longer blackmail you.

                If you go into politics and become complicit in suppressing the truth and attacking people who reveal the truth, you can and should be faulted for it.

    • #57098
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy
      Genie Energy is an American/Israeli company drilling for oil in the Golan Heights
      >Genie Energy’s Strategic advisory board is composed of:Dick Cheney(formervice president of the United States),Rupert Murdoch(media mogul and chairman ofNews Corp),James Woolsey(formerCIA director),Larry Summers(former head of theUS Treasury),Bill Richardson(former Governor ofNew Mexico, ex-ambassador to theUnited NationsandUnited States Energy Secretary), Michael Steinhardt,Jacob Rothschild, andMary Landrieu, former United States Senator fromLouisiana.

    • #57101
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Define "crazy". History is full of conspiracies.

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