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Convince me that Islam is the truth and not just another false religion than humanity has created.
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ACCORDING to its own testimony, the Quran was sent down from heaven by the same One who gave the children of Israel the Pentateuch and Christians the Gospel. However, the Quran, unlike the Pentateuch and the Gospel, had no miracles to support its claim of divine origin. The claim of some that the Quran itself is a literary miracle we found in a previous issue of this magazine to be untenable. However, other Muslim authorities hold that ‘the language itself is not beyond rivalry apart from the truths conveyed, the like of which it would be impossible to produce without a miracle’.
If the Quran is indeed the repository of divine truth, then we should expect to find it, above all else, consistent with itself, should we not? We certainly should. But do we? No, we do not. In fact, we find, upon careful study, not only much discrepancy in the Quran, but a tacit admission of that fact by its efforts to explain away the existence of such. For example:
“When We substitute one revelation for another [verse, sign, Rodwell]—and God knows best what He reveals (in stages),—they say, ‘Thou art but a forger’: But most of them understand not.” (An explanatory footnote in Rodwell’s version states: “The Muslims admit that there are 225 verses cancelled by later ones.”) And again: “None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that God hath power over all things?”—Sura 2:106; 16:101, Ali.
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According to my own testimony, I am sent from heaven to shitpost on LULZ
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But why should Allah find it necessary to change, substitute, cancel, annul or abrogate any revelations or verses? Does not that provide a strong argument against divine authorship? Did Moses, Christ Jesus, the apostle Paul, or any other servant used by Jehovah God to give us divine truth find it necessary to resort to cancellation or abrogation? Would not such be an indication of defective power? And is there not a tacit admission that the Quran contains at least some contradictions in the following: “Do they not consider the Qur-an (with care)? Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.”—Sura 4:82, Ali.
Perhaps the most obvious example of discrepancy in the Quran is in the matter of compulsion in religion. Note the following forbidding compulsion: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.” “Thy duty is only preaching.” “We have not made thee keeper over [the Unbelievers].” “What! wilt thou compel men to become believers? No soul can believe but by the permission of God.” “Thy duty is to make (The Message) reach them: It is our part to call them to account.” “Obey not the Infidels and Hypocrites—yet abstain from injuring them.” “Summon thou to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and with kindly warning: dispute with them in the kindest manner.” (Sura 2:256; 13:40, Ali; Sura 3:19; 6:106, 107; 10:99, 100; 16:126; 33:44, 47, Rodwell) Surely the foregoing are unequivocal and in harmony with the principles of justice.
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Your own scriptures demonstrates God abrogating laws. Ask yourself, was there not a time when laboring on the Sabbath was permissible, until Moses’ time when God forbade it and ordered the execution of anyone caught breaking the injunction? Why the change in God’s mind? You are guilty of your own critique. And you have not demonstrated why abrogation means deficiency in God’s power, for example no one in their right mind would accuse a parent of being contradictory if they forbade screen time to their children when before they were permitted, the parent would only contradict themself if they permitted and forbade screen time at the same time. There is no case of such in the Qur’an.
Indicative of the kind of reasoning used by Muslim commentators in endeavoring to harmonize these texts is that of Râzî’s comment on one of the foregoing: “‘Abstain from injuring them’—that is, leave it to God to punish them, either at your hands or by hell fire.”
Indeed there is no compulsion in religion, only God is capable of inspiring true faith in people, but that does not exclude exacting vengeance against those who have wronged you by means of just violence and to subjugate other religions under the domain of Islam, especially the Meccan pagans who persecuted the Muslims and expelled our prophet when he did them no harm. Let me ask you, why did the armies of Moses kill both man and woman, child and infant, taking virgin girls captive for them to be married off to the Israelite soldiers presumably to be compelled into their religion, if violence and force is so abhorrent to you people?
These contradictions regarding predestination are apparent not only to those who do not recognize the Quran as inspired but also to Muslims. They have given rise to various sects in Islam and much blood was shed in times past over this controversy.
Another discrepancy is found in the Quran as regards the kebla, or direction Muslims should face when praying. On the one hand the Quran states: “The East and the West is God’s: therefore whichever way ye turn, there is the face of God.” “There is no piety in turning your faces toward the east or the west.”—Sura 2:109, 172, Rodwell.
Cite the entire verse of 2:109, you deceptive kafir. And stop copying entire articles from the Watchtower and presenting it as your own writing.
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And a note to lurkers that there is very likely a collective JW psyop campaign where they recycle the same thread topics and spam replies with plagiarized Watchtower excerpts. It’s a pathetic effort to cast doubt into people and there is little genuine dialogue taking place.
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It is a false religion that humanity has created
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But how can we harmonize the foregoing with the following texts commanding the use of force in religion? “Fight for the cause of God against those who fight against you: Kill them wherever ye find them . . . Fight therefore against them until there be no more civil discord, and the only worship be that of God.” “I will cast a dread into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads then, and strike off from them every finger-tip.” “Believers, wage war against such of the infidels as are your neighbors, and let them find you rigorous.” “And when the sacred months are passed, kill those that join other gods with God wherever ye find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way, for God is Gracious.”—Sura 2:186-190, 212, 213; 8:12; 9:5, 124; 47:4, Rodwell.
Indicative of the kind of reasoning used by Muslim commentators in endeavoring to harmonize these texts is that of Râzî’s comment on one of the foregoing: “‘Abstain from injuring them’—that is, leave it to God to punish them, either at your hands or by hell fire.”
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Equally difficult to harmonize are the discrepancies in the Quran relative to predestination. On the one hand the Quran holds out that man can choose his destiny. Otherwise why should a warner be sent to them? Muhammad was commanded: “The truth is from your Lord: let him then who will, believe; and let him who will, be an infidel.” “O my people! how is it that I bid you to salvation, but that ye bid me to the fire?” “Those who shall repent and believe and do righteous works—for them will God change their evil things into righteous things.”—Sura 18:28; 25:65-71; 40:44, Rodwell.
On the other hand there are many, many texts which indicate predestination and that man is without choice. For example: “This is truly a warning: And whoso willeth, taketh the way to his Lord: but will it ye shall not, unless God will it, for God is knowing, wise. He causeth whom He will to enter into his mercy.” “Some of them there were whom God guided, and there were others decreed to err . . . God will not guide him whom He would lead astray.” “Had thy Lord pleased, He would have made mankind of one religion: but those only to whom thy Lord hath granted his mercy will cease to differ. And unto this hath He created them; for the word of thy Lord shall be fulfilled, ‘I will wholly fill hell with Djinn [Spirits] and men.”—Sura 11:120; 16:38, 39; 76:29-31, Rodwell. See also Sura 6:39, 150; 13:30, 31; 14:4; 74:34, Rodwell.
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And not only a predestination regarding eternal destiny but also a fatalism regarding the present life is taught in the Quran: “No one can die except by God’s permission, according to the Book that fixeth the term of life.” “No mischance chanceth either on earth or in your persons, but ere we created them, it was in the Book;—for easy is this to God.” And to Muslims who complained to Muhammad: “Were we to have gained aught in this affair [war], none of us had been slain at this place,” he was told to reply: “Had ye remained in your homes, they who were decreed to be slain would have gone forth to the places where they [now] lie.”—Sura 3:139, 148; 57:22, Rodwell.
These contradictions regarding predestination are apparent not only to those who do not recognize the Quran as inspired but also to Muslims. They have given rise to various sects in Islam and much blood was shed in times past over this controversy.
Another discrepancy is found in the Quran as regards the kebla, or direction Muslims should face when praying. On the one hand the Quran states: “The East and the West is God’s: therefore whichever way ye turn, there is the face of God.” “There is no piety in turning your faces toward the east or the west.”—Sura 2:109, 172, Rodwell.
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But we also read: “We have seen thee turning thy face towards every part of heaven: but we will have thee turn to a kebla that will please thee. Turn then thy face towards the sacred Mosque.” “And from whatever place thou comest forth, turn thy face toward the sacred Mosque; for this is the truth from thy Lord.” (Sura 2:139, 144, 145, Rodwell) Is it or is it not vital which direction one faces when praying? The Quran gives contradictory instructions and reasons in support of each.
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Islam’s legitimacy rests on Judaism and Christianity. If those two are bogus, Islam is bogus as well.
Muhammad claimed that the Torah and the Bible were corrupted by the garden gnomes and Christians and therefore those two religions no longer keep the original covenant.
God then appointed him and sent down the Quran as the original and completed covenant for all of mankind. Some of the verses in Quran then corrected whatever editing done by the garden gnomes and Christians of old. Hence the similarity in style/content to Torah and Bible
Muhammad obviously did not learn from the garden gnomes or Christians, and certainly did not copy anything from the Torah or Bible coz he’s illiterate and couldn’t read – he said so, therefore it must be true
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>Convince me that Islam is the truth and not just another false religion than humanity has created.
Allah has hardened your heart and you are now destined for hellfire. Sorry bro-
Don’t be so quick akhi, he is at least asking.
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It’s likely a troll you are replying to.
>Your prophet is capable of freaking up, and who’s to say that Muhammad didn’t make other (several) mistakes? Who’s to say that Allah just let him say lies since he can simply choose to do that? Hell, who’s to say that the one who gave Muhammad his teachings was Gabriel and not Satan? Or Vishnu? Or Chthulhu, or were just his own schizo ramblings?
I suppose then that those who you hold as trustworthy have never once erred in their lives? This is not a reasonable way to live. It was not Satan or Vishnu who taught our Prophet because if they did, you would not expect Islam to stand opposed to and anything like them. You are more deserving of being labelled a schizophrenic because you stubbornly hold onto improbable what-ifs and unfounded theories, all to deny the truth right in front of you.
>And I and other giant secular scholars ascribe the even more reasonable opinion that Muhammad was just a dude and his teachings were the result of his own mind. Simple
>No? To me Muhammad (if he existed) was nothing more than a schizo, just like any other "prophet" in history.
Sure, a man afflicted by a mental disease gave rise to a religion that spans the entire globe, with all its detailed tenets and immaculate scripture, arguably becoming the most praised man of all mankind. This to you is reasonable.
>It isn’t, your religion is just as scrotebrained as any other.
It is exactly irrelevant because you bring other religions as authoritative opinions over Islam when they themselves are guilty of what they accuse us of, dim-wit.
>You need some reading comprehension classes.
You lost the point.
>There’s no such thing as god or the devil, scrotebrain. Muhammad and his followers were just schizos.
Then I have wasted my time talking with you about the truthfulness of Muhammad who was entrusted as prophet by God, because I assumed you at least affirmed a higher being as you keep bringing up other religions as authoritative.-
>I suppose then that those who you hold as trustworthy have never once erred in their lives
Those who I trust (which are very few) have earned it by making good on their word. And none of them claim to speak for a god. Muhammad is no one to me.
>Sure, a man afflicted by a mental disease gave rise to a religion that spans the entire globe
Lol, no, Christianity has been far more successful than Islam ever has.
>with all its detailed tenets
You mean the ones that were produced after Muhammad’s death by other, much smarter people?
>and immaculate scripture
The Quran contains numerous errors and modern scholarship agrees that there were several versions, not just the one.
>arguably becoming the most praised man of all mankind.
Anon, stop lying to yourself, you know that isn’t true. JC is by any metric more praised than Muhammad.
>This to you is reasonable.
And to you is reasonable to follow a pedophile rapist as the perfect example of a human being.
>It is exactly irrelevant because you bring other religions as authoritative opinions over Islam when they themselves are guilty of what they accuse us of
So all of you religions are shit. Glad we agree there.
>because I assumed you at least affirmed a higher being as you keep bringing up other religions as authoritative.
I’ve never done such a thing. The only time I ever referenced other religion was when I mentioned Solomon and David and the only reason I did that was to show you how stupid your argument was when the Bible itself condemns both of them for things that Muhammad also did.-
>Lol, no, Christianity has been far more successful than Islam ever has.
>Anon, stop lying to yourself, you know that isn’t true. JC is by any metric more praised than Muhammad.
Many lists over the most influential place Muhammad as first place. And Muhammad, may his mention be elevated, is placed first in The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential People in History by Michael Hart, a research spanning three years. Do not claim such with utmost confidence.
>I’ve never done such a thing.
This thread is a witness that you have.
You need to start with the foundations before you even begin to address secondary issues, you do not go the opposite way, or else we are arguing past each other.
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>Then I have wasted my time talking with you about the truthfulness of Muhammad who was entrusted as prophet by God
So you give up on anyone that doesn’t already believe in God?
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Muhammad claims to be a prophet of God. Christians cannot reject his claim as impossible because Christians believe that God has sent prophets. But this does not mean that Christians must blindly accept that Muhammad is a prophet, that would be foolish and disobedient. Instead we are commanded to test prophets to determine whether they are from God. Muhammad may be a true prophet or he may be a false prophet. We must test him to see which he is. Are you prepared to test Muhammad as God has commanded?
How do we test a prophet? We test a prophet by examining his prophecy to see whether it is true. The prophecy of Muhammad is recorded in the Qur’an so we need to test what the Qur’an says to see whether Muhammad is a true prophet.
The Qur’an makes three claims as to why Muhammad is a true prophet. These claims are "testable". These claims are:
The Qur’an confirms the teaching of the gnomish and Christian scriptures.
The Qur’an makes clearer the teaching of the gnomish and Christian scriptures.
Muhammad is foretold in the gnomish and Christian scriptures.
The gnomish and Christian scriptures are the writings of the prophets and are contained in the Bible. These include the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel. For a comprehensive analysis of what the Qur’an says about the Bible follow the link at the end of this article.For the rest of this article I wish to take seriously these claims and test them. I pray that you will not seek excuses to avoid this test but will rather obey God and seek the truth.
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DOES THE QUR’AN CONFIRM THE BIBLE?
O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given! Believe in what We have revealed,
confirming that which ye possess. (4:47 Pickthall)In some ways the Qur’an does confirm the Bible. For instance the Bible teaches that there is only one God and that he is the creator of all things and that there is a day when God will judge all mankind. The Qur’an too teaches these ideas and so confirms the Bible. However at many other important points the Qur’an contradicts the teaching of the Bible and so does not confirm it at all. Here are a few brief examples:
Fighting for God
In the Gospel Jesus very clearly taught that Christians are not to fight for their religion. His apostles also taught the same:
(T)urn the other cheek … love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. (Matthew 5:39, 44)
Put back your sword in its place … for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. (Ephesian 6:12)
But in the Qur’an it says that the Gospel taught that fighting for God (religion) is acceptable.
(T)hey fight in the way of God; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon God in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran (Sura 9:111, Arberry).
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The Punishment for a Thief
In the Bible the punishment for stealing is that the thief must repay the property he stole plus an additional amount to compensate (Leviticus 6:1-5, Exodus 22:3-4). If the thief cannot repay then he is forced to work to repay his debt (Exodus 22:1). The maximum length of time that he can work is six years, then he must be released (Deuteronomy 15:12-14). This type of justice is property punishment for a property crime.
In the Qur’an however a thief is to have his hand cut off:
As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. (Qur’an 5:38, Pickthall)
This type of punishment is a permanent lifelong physical punishment for a property crime. The Qur’an’s teaching in no way confirms the Bible’s teaching.Remarrying the Same Woman
In the Torah, God commanded Moses that a man must not remarry his wife if after leaving him she has married another man. In fact God said it is detestable to do such a thing.
If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. (Deuteronomy 24:1-4)
However, the Qur’an allows a man to remarry his wife when after leaving him she has been married another man:And if he hath divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she hath wedded another husband. Then if he (the other husband) divorce her it is no sin for both of them that they come together again. (Sura 2:230)
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IS MUHAMMAD FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE?
Those who follow the Messenger (Mohammed), the Prophet who can
neither read nor write, whom they will find described
in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them (7:157 MP).In order to decide whether or not Muhammad is foretold in the Bible you will need to read the Biblical scriptures that are referred to and decide for yourself whether you think they foretell the coming of Muhammad. You may like to read my review of Jamal Badawi’s article on this subject. He lists all the common Biblical scriptures that Muslims claim refer to Muhammad. Personally I have found all the attempts to demonstrate this unconvincing.
It is obvious that Muslims have also found it hard to find any reference to Muhammad in the Bible. I say this because some Muslims have actually written their own Gospel so that it now fortells the coming of Muhammad. Two examples of this are "The Gospel According to Islam" (1979) and "The Gospel of Barnabas" (14th century):
But she (Mary) pointed to the babe. They said, How can we talk to an infant in the cradle. But the child spoke up and said, I am indeed a servant of God. He hath appointed me as a sign for men and a mercy from Him. This was a matter decreed … That I may bring to the world the good news of a messenger who will come after me as light and mercy to all the nations; his name shall be called Admirable (2:20-3:1). (Ahmad Shafaat, The Gospel According to Islam, New York: Vantage Press, 1979)
Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called?" … Jesus answered: "The name of the Messiah is admirable … Mohammed is his blessed name".(The Gospel of Barnabas, chapter. 97, 14th century A.D.)
If Muhammad really was foretold in the Gospel there would be no need for Muslims to rewrite the Gospel with Muhammad now foretold in it. These false Gospels are contributing proof that Muhammad is not foretold in the Bible and that this claim of the Qur’an is false.
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Anyone who claims to be a prophet must be prepared to have his prophecy tested – it is a command from God! The prophecy of Muhammad is the Qur’an and the Qur’an makes three claims that can be tested:
It confirms the teaching of the Bible.
It makes clearer the teaching of the Bible.
Muhammad is foretold in the Bible.
In this article I have presented the evidence so that you can consider these claims for yourself. I personally can only conclude that the claims of the Qur’an are false. It does not confirm the teaching of the Bible; it does not make clearer the teaching of the Bible; and Muhammad is not foretold in the Bible. It is because the Qur’an is false that Muslims have had to rewrite the Gospel, with books like "The Gospel According to Islam" and "The Gospel of Barnabas", in order to make the Bible and Qur’an confirm each other. This also explains why so many Muslims I have spoken to attack the Bible and accuse it of being changed; they are trying to escape the failure of the Qur’an by laying the blame on others. -
Jizya literally means penalty. It is a protection tax levied on non-Muslims living under Islamic regimes, confirming their legal status. Mawdudi states that "the acceptance of the Jizya establishes the sanctity of their lives and property, and thereafter neither the Islamic state, nor the Muslim public have any right to violate their property, honor or liberty." Paying the Jizya is a symbol of humiliation and submission because Zimmis are not regarded as citizens of the Islamic state although they are, in most cases, natives to the country.
Such an attitude alienates the Zimmis from being an essential part of the community. How can a Zimmi feel at home in his own land, among his own people, and with his own government, when he knows that the Jizya, which he pays, is a symbol of humiliation and submission? In his book The Islamic Law Pertaining to non-Muslims, Sheikh `Abdulla Mustafa Al-Muraghi indicates that the. Jizya can only be exempted from the Zimmi who becomes a Muslim or dies. The Shafi`i reiterates that the Jizya is not automatically put aside when the Zimmi embraces Islam. Exemption from the Jizya has become an incentive to encourage Zimmis to relinquish their faith and embrace Islam.-
Jizya is a tax system inspired by the tax systems that pre-Islamic Iranians and Romans used.
Jizya was also not enforced that often, and when it was active it would sometimes make non-Muslims pay less taxes than Muslims to encourage them to be just and convert.
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Sheik Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdulla summarizes the purpose of the Jizya. He says, quoting Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, that the Jizya is enacted:
"…to spare the blood (of the Zimmis), to be a symbol of humiliation of the infidels and as an insult and punishment to them, and as the Shafi`ites indicate, the Jizya is offered in exchange for residing in an Islamic country." Thus Ibn Qayyim adds, "Since the entire religion belongs to God, it aims at humiliating ungodliness and its followers, and insulting them. Imposing the Jizya on the followers of ungodliness and oppressing them is required by God’s religion. The Qur’anic text hints at this meaning when it says: `until they give the tribute by force with humiliation.’ (Qur’an 9:29). What contradicts this is leaving the infidels to enjoy their might and practice their religion as they wish so that they would have power and authority."
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Mawdudi, who is more lenient than most Muslim scholars, presents a revolutionary opinion when he emphasizes that in an Islamic state:
"all non-Muslims will have the freedom of conscience, opinion, expression, and association as the one enjoyed by Muslims themselves, subject to the same limitations as are imposed by law on Muslims."
Mawdudi’s views are not accepted by most Islamic schools of law, especially in regard to freedom of expression like criticism of Islam and the government. Even in a country like Pakistan, the homeland of Mawdudi, it is illegal to criticize the government or the head of state. Many political prisoners are confined to jails in Pakistan and most other Islamic countries. Through the course of history. except in rare cases, not even Muslims have been given freedom to criticize Islam without being persecuted or sentenced to death. It is far less likely for a Zimmi to get away with criticizing Islam.In Mawdudi’s statement, the term "limitations" is vaguely defined. If it were explicitly defined, you would find, in the final analysis, that it curbs any type of criticism against the Islamic faith and government.
Moreover, how can the Zimmis express the positive aspects of their religion when they are not allowed to use the media or advertise them on radio or TV? Perhaps Mawdudi meant by his proposals to allow such freedom to Zimmis only among themselves. Otherwise, they would be subject to penalty. Yet, Muslims are allowed, according to the Shari`a (law) to propagate their faith among all religious sects without any limitations.
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This study shows us that non-Muslims are not regarded as citizens by any Islamic state, even if they are original natives of the land. To say otherwise is to conceal the truth. Justice and equality require that any Christian Pakistani, Melanesian, Turk, or Arab be treated as any other citizen of his own country. He deserves to enjoy the same privileges of citizenship regardless of religious affiliation. To claim that Islam is the true religion and to accuse other religions of infidelity is a social, religious and legal offense against the People of the Book.
Christians believe that their religion is the true religion of God and Islam is not. Does that mean that Great Britain, which is headed by a Queen, the head of the Anglican Church, should treat its Muslim subjects as a second class? Moreover, why do Muslims in the West enjoy all freedoms allotted to all citizens of these lands, while Muslim countries do not allow native Christians the same freedom? Muslims in the West build mosques, schools, and educational centers and have access to the media without any restriction. They publicly advertise their activities and are allowed to distribute their Islamic materials freely, while native Christians of any Islamic country are not allowed to do so. Why are Christians in the West allowed to embrace any religion they wish without persecution while a person who chooses to convert to another religion in any Islamic country, is considered an apostate and must be killed if he persists in his apostasy? These questions and others are left for readers to ponder.
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In the Qur’an, Allah claims to be perfectly clear in his commands (see 6:114; 11:1; 12:1; 15:1; 16:89; 22:72; 24:1, 34, 46; 26:2; 27:1; 28:2; 36:69; 41:3; 57:9; 65:11; etc.). Yet when critics of Islam quote the Qur’an, many Muslims insist that Allah means something very different from what he says. This should cause us to wonder: Is Allah’s speech clear, or is it horribly unclear? Since Allah regularly says one thing but means nearly the opposite (according to his Westernized followers), should we regard him as the the worst communicator ever?
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FACT #1: The Qur’an allows (or, perhaps, commands) men to beat their wives into subservience. If a wife doesn’t listen to her husband, the husband should admonish her. If that doesn’t work, he is to make her sleep in a separate bed. However, if the wife still doesn’t respect her husband’s authority, the husband is told to physically punish her. Consider the following verse:
Qur’an 4:34 (Pickthall)—Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret what Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great.
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FACT #2: According to Muhammad, women lack common sense because their minds are deficient. Of course, this declaration didn’t go unchallenged. To his credit, Muhammad allowed women to question him about their intellectual deficiencies. His response to these questions was illuminating:
Sahih Muslim 142—[Muhammad said]: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense.
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FACT #3: Muhammad offered women little hope for the afterlife. Indeed, he clearly states that most of the inhabitants of hell are women who were ungrateful to their husbands (though he never suggests that ungrateful husbands will receive similar punishment). This means that, after being admonished, banished to a separate bed, and beaten by her husband, a willful woman can look forward to an eternity in hell:
Sahih Al-Bukhari 1052—The Prophet said: "I saw paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked: "O Allah’s Apostle! Why is it so?" The Prophet said: "Because of their ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said: "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds."
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The Muslim practice of having sex with captured women is reported often in the Hadith, where we find Muslims perplexed about what to do with their captives. It wasn’t long before Allah sent a revelation allowing the confused soldiers to sleep with the women:
Sahih Muslim 3432—Allah’s Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (4:24)" (i.e. they were lawful for them when their Idda period came to an end).
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Since Muhammad obviously commanded his followers to fight unbelievers (simply for being unbelievers), why do Muslims in the West deny this? Here we must turn to Surah 3:28, which reads:
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security.
According to this verse (which uses a variation of the word Taqiyya, meaning “concealment”), Muslims are not allowed to be friends with non-Muslims. However, if Muslims feel threatened by a stronger adversary, they are allowed to pretend to be friendly. Ibn Kathir comments: “In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly but never inwardly.” Abu Darda, one of Muhammad’s companions, put it this way: “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.”
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Some Muslims get quite upset when I say that Muhammad wasn’t actually getting revelations from God through the angel Gabriel. However, when he began receiving verses, Muhammad himself didn’t believe they were from God. Why would Muslims get angry with us for taking Muhammad’s first impression of his encounter seriously?
Here’s the quotation from Ibn Ishaq on Muhammad’s first meeting with Gabriel:
When it was the night on which God honoured him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’—and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said:
‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’
So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart.Now none of God’s creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed—Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest." (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 106)
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According to numerous Islamic sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation promoting polytheism. Later, he claimed that Satan had tricked him into delivering these infamous "Satanic Verses" (as they are now called).
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Our Muslim friends tell us that Islam is the religion of submission to Allah alone. But when we open the Qur’an, we find that Islam demands complete submission to Muhammad:
Quran 4:65—But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.Quran 33:36—It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.
Moreover, Muhammad commanded his followers to address him directly in their prayers:
Sahih Muslim 798—Ibn Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah used to teach us tashahhud just as he used to teach us a Sura of the Qur’an, and he would say: All services rendered by words, acts of worship, and all good things are due to Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and Allah’s mercy and blessings. Peace be upon us and upon Allah’s upright servants. I testify that there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
To this day, Muslims around the world speak directly to Muhammad during their prayers, saying, "Peace be upon you, O Prophet." What kind of attributes would Muhammad need in order to hear these prayers?And this is the religion that condemns other religions for idolatry?
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Everyone seems shocked when Muslims riot over a poorly made Youtube video or some silly cartoons. But violent responses to criticism are a tradition in Islam, and Muhammad himself started the tradition. Let’s look at an example.
A man named Abu Afak was more than a hundred years old when he decided to write a poem about Muhammad, who was dividing people and causing them to kill one another. Here’s the story of Abu Afak’s death:
Abu Afak was one of the B. Amr b. Auf of the B. Ubayda clan. He showed his disaffection when the apostle killed al-Harith b. Suwayd b. Samit and said:
Long have I lived but never have I seen An assembly or collection of people More faithful to their undertaking And their allies when called upon Than the sons of Qayla when they assembled, Men who overthrew mountains and never submitted, A rider who came to them split them in two (saying) "Permitted", "Forbidden", of all sorts of things. Had you believed in glory or kingship You would have followed Tubba.
The apostle said, "Who will deal with this rascal for me?" Whereupon Salim b. Umayr, sis of B. Amr b. Auf, one of the "weepers", went forth and killed him. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 675)
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Hence, Muhammad’s followers understood that people who criticize Islam or Muhammad must be killed. Soon, Muslims were free to kill anyone who made fun of Muhammad:
Sunan Abu Dawud 4348—Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up. He sat before the Prophet and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.
Sunan Abu Dawud 4349—Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib: A garden gnomeess used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.
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Our Muslim friends often claim that Jesus is highly honored and respected in Islam. But then they tell us that Jesus’ message was corrupted (by Allah himself, along with others), that Jesus’ followers abandoned his teachings, and that we needed Muhammad to come along to accomplish what Jesus couldn’t accomplish. But this means that Jesus didn’t actually accomplish anything that lasted. How can Muslims say they respect Jesus when they portray him as a complete failure?
The Qur’an affirms the inspiration (3:3-4), preservation (7:157; 18:27), and authority of the Gospel (5:47, 68). Yet our Muslim friends tell us that the Gospel has been corrupted. Here we may start to wonder who corrupted it. According to the Qur’an, Jesus never died by crucifixion (4:157-158). According to the Bible, Jesus died by crucifixion (e.g., Matthew 17:22-23; 27:50; etc.). Who corrupted the portion of the Gospel that reports Jesus’ death on the cross? Interestingly, Islam teaches that Allah corrupted the Gospel by tricking and deceiving people into believing that Jesus died on the cross. But why would Allah corrupt his own revelation?
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Muslims often object to the Christian doctrine of atonement (specifically, the doctrine that Jesus willingly died on the cross for the sins of others). But Muhammad taught his followers that Allah will punish garden gnomes and Christians for the sins of Muslims. Is the Islamic doctrine of atonement (i.e., that Christians and garden gnomes will unwillingly be saddled with the sins of Muslims) somehow better than the Christian doctrine (according to which God’s perfect justice is matched only by his perfect love)?
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Sahih Muslim 6665—Abu Musa reported that Allah’s Messenger said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a garden gnome or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.
Sahih Muslim 6666—Allah’s Apostle said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a garden gnome or a Christian in Hell-Fire.
Sahih Muslim 6668—Allah’s Messenger [said]: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the garden gnomes and the Christians.
110 Hadith Qudsi—Allah’s Messenger said: On the Day of Resurrection, my Ummah (nation) will be gathered into three groups. One sort will enter Paradise without rendering an account (of their deeds). Another sort will be reckoned an easy account and admitted into Paradise. Yet another sort will come bearing on their backs heaps of sins like great mountains. Allah will ask the angels though He knows best about them: Who are these people? They will reply: They are humble slaves of yours. He will say: Unload the sins from them and put the same over the garden gnomes and Christians: then let the humble slaves get into Paradise by virtue of My Mercy.
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Islam will win.
The west is corrupting.
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Step1. Declare yourself a prophet of Yahweh/Elohim & that past covenants are now no longer valid.
Step 2. Build a small cult, and work your way to more political power and become a chieftain
Step 3. Cement your power by merging your newfound political power with your claims of prophethood
Step 3. As your cult grows bigger, instate compulsory daily prayers to remind (brainwash) new cult members that you’re a prophet – it’s easier once they have kids coz those kids will grow up being brainwashed since childhood.
Step 4. Get the economy going by declaring wars on neighboring tribes and cities, As the prophet and cult leader – you get a portion of the spoils including women
Step 5. ???
Step 6. Profit Muhammad
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>Step 2. Build a small cult, and work your way to more political power and become a chieftain
Low iq kaffir
He would’ve become head of qurashy and cpuld’ve easily made a cult from that much easier by combining their gods with others
so if he wanted power and money he coudlve done it ages ago and not go through years of hardship-
Joseph Smith also built a cult through years of hardship, so Mormonism must be true.
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The point of the argument is to demonstrate that Muhammad, may his mention be elevated, was not motivated by material and political gain and the proof of this is when the opportunity presented itself to achieve these supposed goals, he refused, therefore it is not reasonable to conclude he sought worldly gain, especially when Islam was at the stage of its infancy, and no one would have thought that the religion would become a dominant force in the Arabian Peninsula, let alone beyond.
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Muhammad was not thinking about "beyond".
He started a fatalistic death cult, woke af on his on hadith and the Quran, Judgement day was supposed to happen within 1 or 2 generations and he is the last prophet, his Quran is the last covenant because the entire world is about to end!
He was satisfied with controlling Medina and Mecca, and he sure as hell was looking for profit, don’t forget the zakat, jizya, the ghanimah/spoils of war, the slaves.As for earthyly possession, he probably didn’t care much about money. But women? Oh that was his jam. 18 wives, and who knows how many sexual slaves, and to top it all off, a child bride.
And he died without leaving instructions on who’s to succeed him, once again, proving that he wasn’t thinking "beyond" – which then led to all sort of chaos in the Islamic world, some of which continued to this day
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>having sex bad
Virgin hands wrote this-
Just because you’re a virgin Abdul as mandated by your prophet, it doesn’t mean everyone else is one too
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Having sex with kids is indeed very bad anon. I hope you know that.
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They were legally married
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>I just need to get some degenerates to give away their kid in marriage so I can fuck the kid
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Projecting. You don’t even know who Aisha was.
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>projecting
I dont fuck kids anon
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>He started a fatalistic death cult
This is ironic to voice as critique if this is coming from a Christian, as in Christian tradition the apostles were eager to meet death for their faith, with Peter requesting to be hung upside down to not emulate Jesus’ death.
"The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" – Tertullian
>He was very likely a power hungry narcissistic sex maniac old cult leader.
Wait until you hear Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, David having 7 wives, and concubines not numbered.-
>Wait until you hear Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, David having 7 wives, and concubines not numbered.
You know the Bible completely shits on these guys for those same very reasons, right? It doesn’t glorify them in any way. Even David gets his shit bonked by God because of that incident with Bethsheba. -
>incident with Bethsheba
Of course he was reprimanded, because it was a case of adultery and murder. Are you dull? All good though if she was divorced and joined David’s many wives, with no innocent blood being spilled. Not surprised either that a Christian would nonchalantly attribute such a shameless, blasphemous action to God. Maybe you are the demon-possessed? "You will know them by their fruits".Let’s say the incident of the Satanic verses is authoritative. Ibn Taymiyyah said regarding it: "There is no doubt that he is Protected
from settling on and continuing in an error in the transmission of Revelation", which is true as the Prophet was subsequently informed of his error. Al-Samami said: "If it is said: How is such a thing allowable for the Prophet when he was Protected?… Most of the salaf say: Even though this was a great error [wa in kana ghalatan ‘aziman], it is allowable that Prophets err; however, they are not settled upon and continued in the error [la yuqarruna ‘alay-hi]". When you say he approved of this, you have purposely lied or you are ignorant of the details, neither does look good on you, which reflects your dim-witted understanding of Islam. Ibn Taymiyyah said further on the protection of the prophets: "As some of the early Muslims have said: ‘David, peace be upon him, was better after repentance than he had been before error’; while others said: ‘If repentance was not so dear to God, He would not have tried with sin the noblest of his Creation’".-
>Let’s say the incident of the Satanic verses is authoritative.
We don’t have to "say" anything, secular scholars (and the general consensus) agree that the incident is so embarrassing that it is most likely to have happened, the only ones who dispute this are Muslims in denial.
>Ibn Taymiyyah said
Who gives a shit what Ibn Taymiyyah says? Are you literally just arguing that it’s fine when one of Allah’s prophets makes a very bad mistake (by Taymiyyah’s own admission) just because this guy says it is.
Anon, you’re simply engaging in apologetics, you’re just coming up with a convoluted post facto explanation for one of your "perfect" prophet’s most infamous fuck-ups. How exactly are you different than apologetics from any other religion? Oh right because you believe in this one and not the others and that magically means that your rationalizations are valid and their’s aren’t.
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It was a grave mistake, but it demonstrates quick repentance, and that is a model for all believers to emulate and God Himself stated He loves those who are oft-repentant, so it is not "because this guy says it is". And why is that in your scriptures then, that God did not preserve the prophet David from committing atrocious crimes, shedding innocent blood and falling into adultery, both punishable by death? And do your scriptures not say Aaron, a high priest of God and Moses’ prophet, fashioned a golden calf for the Israelites to worship? Christians and garden gnomes have no ground to stand on to accuse us of being demonically inspired religion. And if Satan’s goals for Islam was to deceive people away from salvation, he would have done a far better job if he in the first place did not cast false statements into the Prophet to then later be discovered and the error be made apparent (and he supposedly sent an angel to inform the Prophet of it???). And yes, I am engaging in apologetics, what else would I be doing? You’re stating the obvious.
Nah man, Christians definitely not the only ones that can see that your religion is bullshit, and if they can smell bullshit, that’s saying something.
It’s apparent so far you are a crypto-Christian trying to present himself as a neutral party. You people have taken the place of the garden gnomes in being deceptively scheming weasels.
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>It was a grave mistake,
So your prophet is not perfect, nor can you be certain that what he says is the truth after all, why would anyone hear a single word after that?
>but it demonstrates quick repentance
And also that you can’t be certain of your religion, so…
>. And why is that in your scriptures then
I’m not Christian scrotebrain.
>Christians and garden gnomes have no ground to stand on to accuse us of being demonically inspired religion.
And neither do you have to them, since your religion is clearly no better.
>And if Satan’s goals for Islam was to deceive people away from salvation, he would have done a far better job
I’ve heard plenty Christians that claim Islam is Satan’s greatest accomplishment, since it has definitely been successful, so who’s to say?
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>ot surprised either that a Christian would nonchalantly attribute such a shameless, blasphemous action to God. Maybe you are the demon-possessed? "You will know them by their fruits".
Who said I’m a Christian? Because you’re such a schizo that you think anyone who objects to your scrotebrained religion bust be a covert Christian?Nah man, Christians definitely not the only ones that can see that your religion is bullshit, and if they can smell bullshit, that’s saying something.
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>Our prophet is perfect, he is the final prophet of Allah! He speaks the truth!
>Makes a colossally big fuck-up
>H-he can fuck up some times, b-b-because Allah says so
freaking kek, not even Christian apologetics is this pathetic.-
>freaking kek
Are you 13? Now present a scholarly consensus that our Prophet is perfect in the sense of being absolutely preserved from committing sin.Show me where I have stated our Prophet is perfect in the absolute sense, you can not, and you are arguing against a straw-man. I and other giant figures of Islamic scholarship ascribe to the most reasonable opinion that our Prophet, may his mention be elevated, was preserved from persisting in sin, and no Christian or garden gnome can object to this unless he be a hypocrite.
>I’m not Christian scrotebrain.
But you supposedly believe in an evil figure attested to by the so-called Abrahamic religion of Christianity to have cast doubt into our Prophet?
>And neither do you have to them, since your religion is clearly no better.
This is irrelevant because I don’t claim the prophets to be perfect in the absolute sense.
>I’ve heard plenty Christians that claim Islam is Satan’s greatest accomplishment, since it has definitely been successful, so who’s to say?
I’ve heard plenty garden gnomes that claim Christianity is a heretical sect and Jesus a false claimant to Messiah who practiced magic to fool the masses, since it has definitely been successful, so who’s to say?-
And did I not, by your criteria, demonstrate that Judaism and Christianity are devil-inspired religions? Why then do you take their opinion as authoritative? You’re a confused dim-wit.
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>Show me where I have stated our Prophet is perfect in the absolute sense,
Your prophet is capable of freaking up, and who’s to say that Muhammad didn’t make other (several) mistakes? Who’s to say that Allah just let him say lies since he can simply choose to do that? Hell, who’s to say that the one who gave Muhammad his teachings was Gabriel and not Satan? Or Vishnu? Or Chthulhu, or were just his own schizo ramblings?
>you can not, and you are arguing against a straw-man. I and other giant figures of Islamic scholarship ascribe to the most reasonable opinion that our Prophet, may his mention be elevated, was preserved from persisting in sin
And I and other giant secular scholars ascribe the even more reasonable opinion that Muhammad was just a dude and his teachings were the result of his own mind. Simple
>But you supposedly believe in an evil figure attested to by the so-called Abrahamic religion of Christianity to have cast doubt into our Prophet?
No? To me Muhammad (if he existed) was nothing more than a schizo, just like any other "prophet" in history.
>This is irrelevant
It isn’t, your religion is just as scrotebrained as any other.
>I’ve heard plenty garden gnomes that claim Christianity is a heretical sect and Jesus a false claimant to Messiah who practiced magic to fool the masses, since it has definitely been successful, so who’s to say?
You need some reading comprehension classes.
>And did I not, by your criteria, demonstrate that Judaism and Christianity are devil-inspired religions?
There’s no such thing as god or the devil, scrotebrain. Muhammad and his followers were just schizos.
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No he would not have been a Quraysh chief, maybe he’d be given a seat at their elders council of some kind.
And no, why the hell would he combine his Allah with other pagan gods?The point is for him to be the sole dictator, and for his Allah to triumph over the Arabic pagan belief
He pegged Islam to Judaism & Christianity, how the hell are you gonna put Yahweh/Eloh/Allah with other pagan gods?
Essentially, he started a cult, and he wanted to be like Moses, not just a political, but also a de facto spiritual leader of the people.
He was very likely a power hungry narcissistic sex maniac old cult leader. It’s just that his cult continued for far too long after he died
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>how the hell are you gonna put Yahweh/Eloh/Allah with other pagan gods?
That’s literally what the arab pagans did though, they worshiped Allah as the head of their pantheon.As for earthyly possession, he probably didn’t care much about money. But women? Oh that was his jam. 18 wives, and who knows how many sexual slaves, and to top it all off, a child bride.
And he died without leaving instructions on who’s to succeed him, once again, proving that he wasn’t thinking "beyond" – which then led to all sort of chaos in the Islamic world, some of which continued to this day
>woke af on his on hadith and the Quran, Judgement day was supposed to happen within 1 or 2 generations and he is the last prophet, his Quran is the last covenant because the entire world is about to end!
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>That’s literally what the arab pagans did though, they worshiped Allah as the head of their pantheon.
Are you daft or what? Who cares what the pagan Arabs believed in. I was saying how the hell would Muhammad merge his monotheistic Allah, which he appropriated from Judaism and Christianity with the pagan gods?
Hence why he couldn’t and wouldn’t agree to the offer to merge the gods.>Resorting to making shit up now
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:I saw Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) pointing with his index and middle fingers, saying. "The time of my Advent and the Hour are like these two fingers." – Sahih al-Bukhari 4936, Book 65, Hadith 457
He wasn’t thinking of "beyond". As far as he was concerned, his cult and the entire world will be over within a generation or two.
Profit is what you value. He obviously valued attention, power, women – all of which, he accumulated before he died. So by his own standard, he sure made his enterprise profitable before he croaked.
Also, learn to think critically, or more importantly, learn to look at Islam and Islamic history critically and rationally – you’ll see the holes and inconsistencies soon enough.
Good luck
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>As far as he was concerned, his cult and the entire world will be over within a generation or two.
Muhammad ﷺ never claimed to know the time of the Hour. Even in the hadith right before that one, when he was asked for a specific timeframe, he would not answer.As for the rest of the rubbish you posted, even a cursory understanding of the man’s character would suggest otherwise. But you knew that, I’m sure.
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>He would’ve become head of qurashy and cpuld’ve easily made a cult from that much easier by combining their gods with others
He actually did that, remember the incident of the satanic verses? He approves of the veneration of the three chief goddesses of Arabia and the Arabian pagans commend him for that.
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You want the truth, "God" exists, but he’s far more abstract than any religion says, and he has never "directly" made, changed or affected anything on earth.
Is that good enough for you? now go pray or do whatever the fuck you want.
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first part right second part wrong angy man
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christcucks always make the same mistake that their critcisms apply to their own bible yet they’re too smoothbrained too see it
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It’s a true religion. But they are not worshipping who they think they are.
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what do you mean?
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He is implying Islam is a religion to worship Satan. It’s probably a case of a Christian afflicted by schizophrenia, a guiding precept of his religion, he is taught to see things that aren’t in reality there.
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