Assuming that Africa was never colonized, what would it be like today?

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    • #203702
      Anonymous
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      Assuming that Africa was never colonized, what would it be like today?

    • #203703
      Anonymous
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      >Egypt
      >not independent
      Lel

      • #203749
        Anonymous
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        It technically wasn’t. Technically.

    • #203704
      Anonymous
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      In a mildly better position than today.

      But with how the course of capitalism and Imperialism was going, it was very unlikely Africa wasn’t going to get colonised by _someone_ at some point

      Resources are tasty

      • #203707
        Anonymous
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        Africa doesn’t have any resources

        • #203714
          Anonymous
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          le chinese tiresome man face

        • #203731
          Anonymous
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          They’re extremely spread out. Having one or two of those resources alone doesn’t help you very much. Also diamonds are gold are freaking useless for making anything. That’s only good for trading.

          • #203732
            Anonymous
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            and* ffs

          • #203763
            Anonymous
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            >Recourse were too spread out for the natives to utalize
            >Colonists exploited the resources
            Le mental gymnastics

            • #203767
              Anonymous
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              >Le mental gymnastics
              Said the Soijack poster

        • #203762
          Anonymous
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          >To dumb to domesticate zibras
          >Forest Pygmies hated blacks and blacks were terrified of the rainforest
          >Very little expertise in fishing

          • #203765
            Anonymous
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            go freaking try domesticating a zebra scrotebrain

    • #203705
      Anonymous
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      The coastline would probably be more developed

      Like SEA tier or East Europe

      The interior would likely be poorer and somewhat like Afghanistan

      • #203723
        Anonymous
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        >Like SEA tier or East Europe
        they don’t have enough IQ for that.
        they’d be the same shit they’ve always been.

        […]
        Your family tree is knotted, cletus

        >muh inbreeding
        what an idiotic joke.
        have you taken a good look at an inbreeding global map?

        • #203751
          Anonymous
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          >muh IQ
          It’s proportional to economical superiority and stability. Avg IQ in China and "Japan" was 60-70 in the 19th century.

          • #203753
            Anonymous
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            >Avg IQ in China and "Japan" was 60-70 in the 19th century.

            Source?

      • #203752
        Anonymous
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        You freaking scrotebrain, Afghanistan was invaded and colonized by Russians and Brits, and it later got invaded by Russians (again) and Americans.

    • #203706
      Anonymous
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      Same shithole as today, maybe worse.

      • #203761
        Anonymous
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        This.
        Slavery and canibals, forest pygmies and farmers fighting zulu raiders in the south

    • #203708
      Anonymous
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      […]

      Your family tree is knotted, cletus

    • #203710
      Anonymous
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      I mean, shit hadn’t changed from 10,000 BC to 1880 AD when it comes to architecture.
      So I think it’s safe to assume they’d still live naked in huts.

      • #203729
        Anonymous
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        False, obviously

        • #203733
          Anonymous
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          Yeah, we don’t know for sure they had already invented mudhuts and loinclothes in 10,000 BC
          For all we know they may have been living like literal monkeys

          • #203741
            Anonymous
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            You’re not funny. Come up with something that’s actually clever and not just an attempt at being edgy.

    • #203711
      Anonymous
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      without whites which is a plus

      • #203722
        Anonymous
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        maybe if youre a noble savage scrotebrain

      • #203724
        Anonymous
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        yeah, the haitians must really love those mud cookies.

        • #203727
          Anonymous
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          who brought them to Haiti in the first place and later blockaded them for 200 years , you dumb cracker?

          • #203760
            Anonymous
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            always with the excuses, always everybody else’s fault. who blockaded Liberia? it’s a gigashithole too.

      • #203725
        Anonymous
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        If we’re going off of OP’s map and only saying colonization after 1880 didn’t happen, then South Africa would probably be more white than it is today, not less. The Boers had already established themselves in the region, and their numbers would be a whole lot higher without the Boer Wars and forced relocations. The British Empire also extended its protection to a lot of Bantu tribes to counterbalance the Boers… something they wouldn’t have enjoyed in this scenario.

    • #203712
      Anonymous
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      it would, at the very least, have borders more woke af on language instead of the clusterfuck it got

      • #203716
        Anonymous
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        >languages
        Anon any kind of European style nationalism with a large linguistic component was absolutely foreign to Africa, it would be evolutions of traditional structures and it would be smaller but j average, but stateswould absolutely not follow language

      • #203726
        Anonymous
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        so you’re admitting that multiculturalism is bad for a country?

        • #203728
          Anonymous
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          Africans didn’t vote for their borders. Most of the time, not even the chiefs or kings did, since no Africans were present at the Berlin conference.

        • #203754
          Anonymous
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          Yes, very bad. Now return California and all of the southern states to Mexico, make Quebec independent, UK must be balkanized, Skåne and Dalarna must be independent, Norway must be split into two countries, Turkey must be balkanized, Russia must be balkanized, Japan must be balkanized, China must be balkanized, India must be balkanized, Germany must cede land for a Turkic state, and much more.

          • #203755
            Anonymous
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            >spics
            >california
            nah, they can leave

            • #203758
              Anonymous
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              The only one leaving will be the chang or the snow scrote occupying Aztec land

          • #203757
            Anonymous
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            Don’t forget several hodge podge new Afrikas across every major US city

          • #203759
            Anonymous
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            >Japan must be balkanized
            how the fuck can you balkanize Japan? do you to make the Ryukyu Islands and Hokkaido independent?

    • #203713
      Anonymous
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      Most of the continent except Ethiopia would be ruled under Islamic theocracies. Arabs would have continued settling throughout East Africa and the Congo, and they would have replaced the native Bantu populations and formed a large Afro-Arab race. Meanwhile, West Africa would be ruled by Black Muslim ethnic groups such as the Fulani and the Wolof

    • #203715
      Anonymous
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      Whatever happened to Mali?

      • #203717
        Anonymous
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        Morocco along with some Spanish mercenaries marched across the Sahara and pushed West Africa’s shit in. The region never really recentralized and recovered.

    • #203718
      Anonymous
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      Africa being completely uncolonized is a pipe-dream. Actually, make that Africa not being colonized period, is a pipe dream.

      But if Africa had been left relatively untouched (say, suppose colonization started much later or it proved more difficult to exploit its resources or access the interior), it would have ended up sort of like Papua New Guinea in the 1970s.

    • #203719
      Anonymous
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      Even if there was never an official Scramble for Africa, Portugal would have kept exploring and claiming the interior to connect their colonies Angola and Mozambique. Without any British backstabbers in the mix, they could have actually accomplished their Pink Map plan.

      Liberia would have also become a lot larger. They originally claimed a lot of interior regions, but were pushed back by the British and French.

    • #203720
      Anonymous
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      Most of central Africa would have become Muslim. The western muslim african empires would have expanded slowly but surely.

      Western european colonialism , especially British colonialism. came at just that moment that halted a great deal of Mali’s expansion and were especially paranoid about Sudans Mahdist uprising hence their later intervention. European policy of christinization came hand in hand with colonial consolidation. In the european belief system faith is seperated beatween Abrahamic religions and weak heathen paganism. Europeans were in fact freaking out quite a lot about Islams rapid expansion in western Africa. But at the same time they didn’t undertand at all how many indigenous belief systems co-existed with Islam , and so they did their best to eraze it all. The Yoruba for example were prosperous , and infact more democratic than any european nation at the time.

    • #203721
      Anonymous
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      they’d continue being the same shithole they were before being colonized.

    • #203730
      Anonymous
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      I think you know white boi

    • #203734
      Anonymous
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      I’m not a historian but I do think some parts would be quite nice today is some areas. Most of it would probably still be poor but there would be a few decently successful states.
      Best areas would be Sahelian West Africa to an extent, Gulf of Guinea, and Swahili coast area. Honestly the Horn would probably still shoot itself in the foot in this timeline. Hard to say though because you can’t just pretend colonialism didn’t happen due to its massive global effects over centuries

      • #203736
        Anonymous
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        Unironically thinking that any Subsaharan country would be better off now if colonialims hadn’t happened is being uneducated or brainwawhsed.
        It brought shitons of advancement and had basically no negative effect besides hurting the pride of locals (or more accurately, of their descendents).
        At most a few states may have managed to eventually get as "successful" as some are now, but better most definitly not.

        • #203737
          Anonymous
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          >It brought shitons of advancement and had basically no negative effect
          freaking lol

        • #203743
          Anonymous
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          >Unironically thinking that any Subsaharan country would be better off now if colonialims hadn’t happened is being uneducated or brainwawhsed.
          Cope
          >It brought shitons of advancement
          This is possible without colonization you dimwit, have you never heard of trade? Treaties? Diplomacy?
          >had basically no negative effect besides hurting the pride of locals (or more accurately, of their descendents).
          Nevermind you’re actually scrotebrained
          >At most a few states may have managed to eventually get as "successful" as some are now, but better most definitly not.
          Literally what I said

    • #203735
      Anonymous
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      Morocco was bigger than this

    • #203738
      Anonymous
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      I would argue that the Ottomans, Moroccans, Hausa, Somalis, and Swahili/Zanzibaris were a form of colonialism from the Arab world

    • #203740
      Anonymous
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      There would be less guns, paved roads, books, buildings, and electricity. It would unironically be paradise.

      • #203746
        Anonymous
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        Guns arrived there before colonization.
        Nigs had been exchanging their siss for guns ever since the 16th century.
        16th-19th century West Africa was basically a bunch of neolithic apes killing each others with modern European guns despite being naked and living in prehistorical mudhuts.

    • #203742
      Anonymous
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      What is it with historians and calling every savage country bigger than New Jersey an “Empire”?

    • #203745
      Anonymous
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      illiterate subsistence farmers living in mud huts

    • #203747
      Anonymous
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      it would still suck, but not as much.

    • #203748
      Anonymous
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      Muslims would take longer but still conquer thye entire continent, maybe 50 years later than european christians did. scrotes would have been fully genocided or forced to convert. Their descendants in america would be grateful to the slave trade that saved them and fully assimilate.
      Mind you this is what should have happened in the current timeline too, if not for the slave trade they would be stuck in africa and trying to cross the atlantic themselves. They certainly wouldn’t get to use the internet to chimp out and colonize the humanities field with their grievance studies.

      • #203756
        Anonymous
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        North Africans never gave a shit about rest of Africa and they were busy getting raped by the French

      • #203768
        Anonymous
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        >Muslims would take longer but still conquer thye entire continent, maybe 50 years later than european christians did.
        Muslims were always zoned out form expanding further south.

    • #203750
      Anonymous
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      The same as it has always been. Possibly worse.

    • #203764
      Anonymous
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      3rd world

    • #203766
      Anonymous
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      Do you mean never colonized by Europeans in the Scramble for Africa, or like, colonized at all, by anybody? Because people were colonizing Africa for thousands of years.

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