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    • #225007
      Anonymous
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      Are the Japanese the most military gifted among the East Asians? They conquered Korea and eastern part of China. Have the greatest swordsman in Asia and even now their martial arts like karate and jiujutsu are practiced worldwide.

    • #225009
      Anonymous
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      >mongolian throat singing in the distance

      • #225011
        Anonymous
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        >Is unable to conquer Japan

        • #225013
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >due to a random weather event

          • #225014
            Anonymous
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            >beaten by the weather
            Kek

          • #225022
            Anonymous
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            >random

          • #225262
            Anonymous
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            >random

      • #225264
        Anonymous
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        >east asian

    • #225015
      Anonymous
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      >They conquered Korea and eastern part of China.
      Meanwhile chinese conquered ENTIRETY OF CHINA.
      >Now their martial arts like karate and jiujutsu are practiced worldwide.
      So are kung-fu and muay thai. Besides it has more to do with japanese cultural affiliation with the west making those more internationally renowned than any inherent quality of the sports.

      • #225018
        Anonymous
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        China
        >Conquers China
        lol ok

        Also gets conquered by Mongols, Manchurians, and their own peasants, rinse and repeat. "China" is a pathetically transient and abstract entity with no real continuity as a nation and/or culture

        • #225020
          Anonymous
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          holy freaking shit, have some self-awareness, Shart! What’s your culture? Fast food chains? A piece of parchment promising some abstract notion of libertarianism? Literally anyone can be American, a Somali nig fresh off the boat could be considered American as long as “duuuuhhh he comes here legally!” You are a decadent land twisted by corporation and immigration into a crude mockery of western perfection.

          All the "validation" you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your politicians are disgusted and ashamed of you, your "allies" laugh at your ghoulish population behind closed meeting doors.

          Western civilizations are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of culture have allowed civilizations to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even countries who "pass" look uncanny and unnatural to a real civilization. Your social structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a desperate ethnical group home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected negrified cities.

          You will never be free. You wrench out a growing GDP every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your society under the unbearable weight.

          Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll start a riot, burn a city, murder your citizen, and plunge into civil war. Europe will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll balkanize you in countries marked with native American names, and every civilization for the rest of eternity will know a degenerate society has failed there. Your pseudo-culture will be forgotten and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a history book that unmistakably showed you were unnatural ethnical patchwork.

          This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

          • #225021
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >giant wall of ad homin text
            Didn’t read, don’t care. Keep seething Chang.
            You will always be East Taiwan

            • #225024
              Anonymous
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              >east Taiwan
              mutt education system @ work, folks

          • #225025
            Anonymous
            Guest

            True but wrong. A Somali could step into Sweden and be considered Swedish, the same with France and other western countries, they are all going the same way as America, their essence has already been reduced to a bureaucrat’s signature.

            • #225261
              Anonymous
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              holy freaking shit, have some self-awareness, Shart! What’s your culture? Fast food chains? A piece of parchment promising some abstract notion of libertarianism? Literally anyone can be American, a Somali nig fresh off the boat could be considered American as long as “duuuuhhh he comes here legally!” You are a decadent land twisted by corporation and immigration into a crude mockery of western perfection.

              All the "validation" you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your politicians are disgusted and ashamed of you, your "allies" laugh at your ghoulish population behind closed meeting doors.

              Western civilizations are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of culture have allowed civilizations to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even countries who "pass" look uncanny and unnatural to a real civilization. Your social structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a desperate ethnical group home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected negrified cities.

              You will never be free. You wrench out a growing GDP every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your society under the unbearable weight.

              Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll start a riot, burn a city, murder your citizen, and plunge into civil war. Europe will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll balkanize you in countries marked with native American names, and every civilization for the rest of eternity will know a degenerate society has failed there. Your pseudo-culture will be forgotten and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a history book that unmistakably showed you were unnatural ethnical patchwork.

              This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

              >give ngubu citizenship so he can work at mcdo and get overtaxed to death
              >revoke his citizenship on the day of the rope
              I don’t see any problem with this strategy. it’s a smart implementation of modern slavery.

          • #225032
            Anonymous
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            I’m not even American, which makes the idea that you actually got so triggered that you actually had to type up an entire essay all the funnier.

            You know how objectively inferior and frail the Chinese ‘nation’ has been historically and are so confused by your own identity that you chimp out like this whenever someones calls it for how it is. God you chinks are truly pathetic.

          • #225034
            Anonymous
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            Yerrow hands typing this

          • #225260
            Anonymous
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            Ok, West Taiwan.

        • #225042
          Anonymous
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          Han Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia centuries before the Mongol empire was founded and Genghis Khan was born. If ruling over a place means everyone in it was raped, then all Mongols are raped cross bred descendants of Han Chinese raping their ancestors.

          If Mongols ruling an area makes everyone mixed with Mongols (the Mongols conquered and raped and ruled for centuries all the way to Baghdad and Iraq and conquered Turkey and raped Ukraine and Hungary and Korea as well), then all off Asia from Korea to Ukraine to Iraq and the Syrian cities of Damascus and Aleppo are Mongol hybrids.

          Arabs never conquered Mongolia. Iraq was raped to the ground by the Mongols and Arabs never conquered Mongols before or after

          […]

          […]

          >China wasn’t subjugated by foreigners. The non-Han dynasties were rebel subjects of preceding Han Chinese dynasties, not foreign invaders.

          >The region of Mongolia was raped and conquered by Tang dynasty China centuries before the Mongol empire existed.

          https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10403196

          https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/45518168

          https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/48235048

          […]

          >Steppe nomads like the southern Xiongnu, Jie, Di, Qiang, An lushan’s rebels and the non-nomadic sedentary farmer Jianzhou Jurchens were all conquered, subjugated and deported as slaves by Han Chinese BEFORE they revolted against they Han masters to establish their own dynasties. China was never conquered by an external political entity.

          Since conquest and rule = mass breeding and rape, all Mongols and Vietnamese are crossbred with Han Chinese genes since China ruled Vietnam for 1,000 years and ruled Mongolia for centuries under the Tang dynasty before the Mongol empire.

        • #225069
          Anonymous
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          https://i.imgur.com/pRXUa7Y.gif

          I’m not even American, which makes the idea that you actually got so triggered that you actually had to type up an entire essay all the funnier.

          You know how objectively inferior and frail the Chinese ‘nation’ has been historically and are so confused by your own identity that you chimp out like this whenever someones calls it for how it is. God you chinks are truly pathetic.

          Han Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia centuries before the Mongol empire was founded and Genghis Khan was born. If ruling over a place means everyone in it was raped, then all Mongols are raped cross bred descendants of Han Chinese raping their ancestors.

          If Mongols ruling an area makes everyone mixed with Mongols (the Mongols conquered and raped and ruled for centuries all the way to Baghdad and Iraq and conquered Turkey and raped Ukraine and Hungary and Korea as well), then all off Asia from Korea to Ukraine to Iraq and the Syrian cities of Damascus and Aleppo are Mongol hybrids.

          Arabs never conquered Mongolia. Iraq was raped to the ground by the Mongols and Arabs never conquered Mongols before or after

          […]

          […]
          >China wasn’t subjugated by foreigners. The non-Han dynasties were rebel subjects of preceding Han Chinese dynasties, not foreign invaders.

          >The region of Mongolia was raped and conquered by Tang dynasty China centuries before the Mongol empire existed.

          https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10403196

          https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/45518168

          https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/48235048

          […]

          >Steppe nomads like the southern Xiongnu, Jie, Di, Qiang, An lushan’s rebels and the non-nomadic sedentary farmer Jianzhou Jurchens were all conquered, subjugated and deported as slaves by Han Chinese BEFORE they revolted against they Han masters to establish their own dynasties. China was never conquered by an external political entity.

          Since conquest and rule = mass breeding and rape, all Mongols and Vietnamese are crossbred with Han Chinese genes since China ruled Vietnam for 1,000 years and ruled Mongolia for centuries under the Tang dynasty before the Mongol empire.

          https://archive.is/x42CE#p10107593

          Wrong again, liar.

          China maintained the same official offices, government organs and noble peerages which were transferred through each dynasty. The oldest example is the noble peerage and fief of Confucius family. The Kong family who were descended from Confucius paternally held the continuous peerage noble title of Lord, Marquis and Duke for 2,200 years from the Qin dynasty to the Qing dynasty in the paternal lineage, every dynasty recognized the peerage, fief which was transferred seamlessly and continuously to the next dynasty. No other country has an office this old and continuous. A lot of government organs and military offices were just transferred. The Qing aquired entire Ming government organs, their original staff and entire Ming military units, provincial and city government organs and staff. The founders of the Qing originated entirely from Ming military guard units (Weisuo), the Aisin Gioro were Ming appointed chiefs of the Jianzhou Jurchens since the late 1400s.

          The name Zhongguo (China for the country Hua for the ethnicity and culture existed since the Zhou dynasty 3,000 years ago, and continuously used by succeeding dynasties to refer to the state and the ethnic majority. Each dynasties declared itself the legal successor to the previous in a linear chain stretching to the Zhou and Shang dynasties. When China was divided, the uniting dynasty used it’s chain while the other states which failed were not.

          Same official language (Classical Chinese) for 3,000 years, same writing system (Chinese characters), same state name (Zhongguo) and same name for the people (Hua), same nobility.

          • #225076
            Anonymous
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            Chinese still has the oldest hereditary noble and religious priestly lineages. The Kong (Confucius), Meng (Mencius), Zeng (Zengzi), Yan (Yan Hui) and Zhang (Zhang Daoling) families. They do noble investitures, the Kong and Zhang did it last in 2008.

            The Kong, Meng, Yan and Zeng families all have longer continuously held hereditary titles than the monarchs of Japan. The Kong family’s continuously held title is older than the first verified Japanese monarch of the current family by 1,000 years.

            The Confucius Kong family are descended in the male line from the Dukes of Song and the Shang dynasty Kings and held noble titles of Duke of Song, Marquis and Duke Yansheng for 3,000 years. The Mencius Meng and Dongye families in the male line are descendants of the Duke of Zhou of the Zhou dynasty Kings and also held various noble titles 3,000 years. The Zengzi Zeng family are descended from the Xia dynasty Kings.

            The Zhang family in the male line continously served as Daoist Celestial Masters of the Daoist Tianshi sect for over 2,000 years since Zhang Daoling in.the Han dynasty and are descended from the noble Marquis Zhang Liang 2,200 years ago. They perform the same religious rituals passed down in the male line in the Zhang family and were recognized by all dynasties as religious leaders of the Celestial Master Daoist sect. They lived in the same mansion at Longhu mountain for that time.

            Their descendants are all male line descendants and still hold offices and titles today and held noble titles throughout all dynasties in China and they perform the same sacrifices and rituals at their temples. Their male line descendants still live around their home cities and temples and mansions. They are all as old as China’s existence.

          • #225079
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Chinese still has the oldest hereditary noble and religious priestly lineages. The Kong (Confucius), Meng (Mencius), Zeng (Zengzi), Yan (Yan Hui) and Zhang (Zhang Daoling) families. They do noble investitures, the Kong and Zhang did it last in 2008.

            The Kong, Meng, Yan and Zeng families all have longer continuously held hereditary titles than the monarchs of Japan. The Kong family’s continuously held title is older than the first verified Japanese monarch of the current family by 1,000 years.

            The Confucius Kong family are descended in the male line from the Dukes of Song and the Shang dynasty Kings and held noble titles of Duke of Song, Marquis and Duke Yansheng for 3,000 years. The Mencius Meng and Dongye families in the male line are descendants of the Duke of Zhou of the Zhou dynasty Kings and also held various noble titles 3,000 years. The Zengzi Zeng family are descended from the Xia dynasty Kings.

            The Zhang family in the male line continously served as Daoist Celestial Masters of the Daoist Tianshi sect for over 2,000 years since Zhang Daoling in.the Han dynasty and are descended from the noble Marquis Zhang Liang 2,200 years ago. They perform the same religious rituals passed down in the male line in the Zhang family and were recognized by all dynasties as religious leaders of the Celestial Master Daoist sect. They lived in the same mansion at Longhu mountain for that time.

            Their descendants are all male line descendants and still hold offices and titles today and held noble titles throughout all dynasties in China and they perform the same sacrifices and rituals at their temples. Their male line descendants still live around their home cities and temples and mansions. They are all as old as China’s existence.

            https://www.academia.edu/6188373/The_Ritual_Formation_of_Confucian_Orthodoxy_and_the_Descendants_of_the_Sage

            https://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/handle/1903/12285/Zhou_umd_0117E_12730.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

            https://www.academia.edu/11897175/Rebuilding_Confucian_Ideology_Ethnicity_and_Biography_in_the_Appropriation_of_Tradition

            http://www.chinaknowledge.de/History/Terms/hanlinyuan.html

            The archive.is won’t display the page, just copy paste the url the archive.is shows you and paste it into your address bar since LULZ is blocking the pdf link as "spam"

            http://archive.is/Iz0Vb

            http://archive.is/SgG5M

            Japanese wear western clothing in their daily lives and for work after the Meiji restoration forced them to wear western clothing and uniforms. Japanese clothes are mostly worn by shinto priests during ceremonies. If that’s a living tradition then Hanfu is living in China.

            Guess what? Daoist priests in China still wear and wore Hanfu Daoist robes as a living tradition for 2,000 years dyring their ceremonies passed down from father to son in priestly lineages, through the Qing dynasty and down through the present day.

            Traditional Daoist Hanfu is worn by Daoist clergy when they are performing their rituals.

          • #225147
            Anonymous
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            https://i.imgur.com/cqS7DYc.gif

            Chinese still has the oldest hereditary noble and religious priestly lineages. The Kong (Confucius), Meng (Mencius), Zeng (Zengzi), Yan (Yan Hui) and Zhang (Zhang Daoling) families. They do noble investitures, the Kong and Zhang did it last in 2008.

            The Kong, Meng, Yan and Zeng families all have longer continuously held hereditary titles than the monarchs of Japan. The Kong family’s continuously held title is older than the first verified Japanese monarch of the current family by 1,000 years.

            The Confucius Kong family are descended in the male line from the Dukes of Song and the Shang dynasty Kings and held noble titles of Duke of Song, Marquis and Duke Yansheng for 3,000 years. The Mencius Meng and Dongye families in the male line are descendants of the Duke of Zhou of the Zhou dynasty Kings and also held various noble titles 3,000 years. The Zengzi Zeng family are descended from the Xia dynasty Kings.

            The Zhang family in the male line continously served as Daoist Celestial Masters of the Daoist Tianshi sect for over 2,000 years since Zhang Daoling in.the Han dynasty and are descended from the noble Marquis Zhang Liang 2,200 years ago. They perform the same religious rituals passed down in the male line in the Zhang family and were recognized by all dynasties as religious leaders of the Celestial Master Daoist sect. They lived in the same mansion at Longhu mountain for that time.

            Their descendants are all male line descendants and still hold offices and titles today and held noble titles throughout all dynasties in China and they perform the same sacrifices and rituals at their temples. Their male line descendants still live around their home cities and temples and mansions. They are all as old as China’s existence.

            […]
            https://www.academia.edu/6188373/The_Ritual_Formation_of_Confucian_Orthodoxy_and_the_Descendants_of_the_Sage

            https://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/handle/1903/12285/Zhou_umd_0117E_12730.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

            https://www.academia.edu/11897175/Rebuilding_Confucian_Ideology_Ethnicity_and_Biography_in_the_Appropriation_of_Tradition

            http://www.chinaknowledge.de/History/Terms/hanlinyuan.html

            The archive.is won’t display the page, just copy paste the url the archive.is shows you and paste it into your address bar since LULZ is blocking the pdf link as "spam"

            http://archive.is/Iz0Vb

            http://archive.is/SgG5M

            Japanese wear western clothing in their daily lives and for work after the Meiji restoration forced them to wear western clothing and uniforms. Japanese clothes are mostly worn by shinto priests during ceremonies. If that’s a living tradition then Hanfu is living in China.

            Guess what? Daoist priests in China still wear and wore Hanfu Daoist robes as a living tradition for 2,000 years dyring their ceremonies passed down from father to son in priestly lineages, through the Qing dynasty and down through the present day.

            Traditional Daoist Hanfu is worn by Daoist clergy when they are performing their rituals.

            Japan only has the oldest 2,600 old imperial family according to their mythical accounts. It is total bullshit because they have no proof of the emperors they claim existed before the 6th century AD. The Chinese wrote Records of the Three Kingdoms, guess what, the names of the Japanese chiefs or kings in the Records of the three kingdoms do not match up with the names of fake Japanese emperors claimed to have existed in that era by the 8th century Nihon Shoki and Kojiki which were the first books written in Japan. The Japanese did not use the title of Emperor (tenno) before the 6th century AD, they only used the title of King to refer to their fake kings since their first fake Emperor Jimmu but after borrowing the title of Emperor from China, they retroactively applied Emperor to all of their fake kings since Emperor Jimmy. The title Tenno (Tianddi) was derived from Daoist influence in Tang dynasty China.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_of_the_Three_Kingdoms#Legacy

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_Shoki

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kojiki

            Japan had no literacy or writing before the 5th centuy AD. The only written objects they had were Chinese seals given to them by the Han Emperor like the seal where the Han Emperor of China called the Japanese tribal chief a King of the midget (dwarf) slaves. This is not trolling that’s what it says. The Japanese chief accepted this seal as a sign he was a vassal of Han China.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Na_gold_seal

            漢委奴國王

        • #225200
          Anonymous
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          https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634432981338.gif

          Han dynasty China and Tang dynasty China conquered and raped the entire steppe from Mongolia to Central Asia.

          China routinely destroyed and slaughtered nomadic empires.

          China wrecked nomadic empires multiple times from the Xiongnu (Mongolia and Central Asia), Jie, Western Turkic Khaghanate (Central Asia), Eastern Turkic Khaghanate (Mongolia), Xueyantuo and Uyghur Khaghanate (Mongolia). All of them destroyed and massacred by the Qin dynasty, Han dynasty and Tang dynasty. The Jianzhou Jurchen (Manchus) were under Ming rule and a part of the Ming Weisuo system before rebelling. They were rebels inside the Ming.

          Almost all non-Han dynasties were founded by barbarians who were subjugated and conquered by Han before rebelling. The Wu Hu barbarians were slaves of Han Chinese who had been deported into northern China and revolted after a civil war.

          Han Chinese dynasties like the Han Dynasty and Tang dynasty defeated, wrecked and destroyed over eight giant steppe nomad empires, the Xiongnu empire in 215 BC and 89 AD, Wuhuan in 207 AD, Jie in 350 AD, the Di in 383 AD, the Eastern Turkic Khaghanate in 630, Western Turkic Khaghanate in 657, Xueyantuo Khaghanate in 646 , Uyghur Khaghanate in 840 and committee genocide in the entire Jie steppe nomad people.

          The Qin dynasty defeated the Xiongnu in it’s very first battle.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin%27s_campaign_against_the_Xiongnu
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zhizhi
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han–Xiongnu_War
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Heavenly_Horses
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_Chao#Control_of_the_Tarim_Basin
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jie_people#History

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectorate_of_the_Western_Regions
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loulan_Kingdom#Early_Han_Dynasty
          https://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.5702
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kucha
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaochang
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jushi_Kingdom

          • #225221
            Anonymous
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            https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634433085434.gif

            The very institute of dynasty and concept of naming them Yuan, Qing is a Chinese political institution.

            https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/6967358#p6969614

            No Italian can trace their paternal ancestry and title to Rome.

            Italy doesn’t have noble families who held continuous hereditary noble titles for 2,000 years since the Roman Empire unlike China.

            China has permanent noble families like Confucius Kong family who were Duke Yansheng, Marquis and Lord in a continous straight line since the Qin dynasty in the 200s BC and Celestial Master in Zhang Daoling’s family.

            Every dynasty absorbed the institutions and government organs including the permanent nobility of the former dynasties. All dynasties recongized those noble families and titles. Han, Jin, Sui, Tang,Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing, Republic of China.

            Where is the 2,000 year old Roman nobility on Italy?

            • #225233
              Anonymous
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              https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634433167906.gif

              All dynasties in China from the Zhou to the Qing also called themselves Zhongguo 中國.

              The Qing dynasty even translated Zhongguo into Manchu as Dulimbai Gurun to use as the official name of the Qing in treaties.

              The Manchu versions of the Treaty of Nerchinsk and Kyakhta refer to the Qing as Dulimbai Gurun 中國, where the Russian and Latin versions say China. They do not use the name Daicing Gurun in those treaties.

              In the History of Yuan, when the the son of the Mongol official Toqtoa was talking about Japanese spies, he referred to the Yuan state as 中國 and boasted on how powerful it is so the spies could see.

              The Zhou, Han, Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing all called their state Zhongguo along with the dynastic name.

              >different ruling class!

              As an example of Zhongguo’s permanence, it had the same permanent civilian nobility. The descendants of Confucius held the title of Lord, Marquis and Duke Yansheng since the Qin dynasty down to the Republic of China for 2,200 years.

              The descendants of Zhang Daoling held the title Celestial Master for 2,200 years since the Han dynasty and were recognized by the Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing, Republic of China.

              This also includes the descendants of Confucius disciples, Mencius, Zengzi, Yan Hui, and the dozens of Tusi chieftains in southwestern China.

              China’s civilian nobility and it’s families stays the same, always, for thousands of years.

              The military nobility of China changes in each dynasty. The Qing military nobility included Han like the families of Shi Lang, Li Yongfang, etc.

              • #225234
                Anonymous
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                https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634433255158.gif

                And all dynasties in China recognize themselves as successor of the previous dynasty, commissioning an official history of the previous dynasty (24 histories) and giving a noble title to a member of the overthrown dynasty. Theu absorn the government organs, institutions and civilian nobility (Duke Yansheng, Celestial Master) of the previous dynasty.

                The Zhou dynasty gave the title Duke of Song to a Shang dynasty royal. The Yuan dynasty gave the title Duke of Ying to a Song dynasty royal. The Qing dynasty gave the title Marquis of Extended Grace to a member of the Ming dynasty royal family.

                These acts symbolize the chain of succession through dynasties.

                The very concept of dynasty (chao) as a political entity is from China. Han bannerman Fan Wencheng told Hongtaiji he was building the instutions of Zhongguo (China) in 1636 when advising him to declare the Qing dynasty and Fan was creating the Qing six boards with himseld as Grand Secretary copied after the Ming government.

                The concept of China 中國 is older than the Qing dynasty and the Qing called itself 中國 and recongized itself as the successor of a chain of previous dynasties of 中國 (dynasties of the 24 histories). There’s a reason why dynasties like Yuan, Ming and Qing didn’t compose dynastic histories for Gojoseon, Goguryeo, Dai Viet (Vietnam), Silla (Korea) despite ruling former Goguryeo land and the royal families of Gojoseon and several Dai Viet dynasties descending from Chinese. Because they are not part of the dynasties of 中國.

                The Qing also called all it’s subjects 中國之人, Dulimbai Gurun i Niyalma in Manchu. Mongols under Qing rule were called Dulimbai gurun i niyalma in the Treaty of Kyakhta and Manchus called themselves Dulimbai Gurun i Niyalma.

                • #225235
                  Anonymous
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                  https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634433324161.gif

                  The Republic of China is the legal successor of the Qing and the Qing is the legal successor of the Ming, per treaties and leases with western nations. The Ming’s official lease on Macau to Portugal in exchange for Portugal paying rent of 500 silver taels every year was continued with the Qing. The last de facto head of state of the Southern Ming, Zheng Keshuang signed over the transition of power and titles in 1683 with the Qing. The Qing abdicated in 1912 and legally recognized the Republic of China as the succesor state. The third last Song Emperor Gong legally abdicated to the Yuan (and was given a noble title in the Yuan and married into the Yuan royal family) and the last Northern Yuan emperor abdicated to the Qing.

                  And to add to this, the noble institutions and titles,

                  https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634433085434.gif

                  The very institute of dynasty and concept of naming them Yuan, Qing is a Chinese political institution.

                  https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/6967358#p6969614

                  No Italian can trace their paternal ancestry and title to Rome.

                  Italy doesn’t have noble families who held continuous hereditary noble titles for 2,000 years since the Roman Empire unlike China.

                  China has permanent noble families like Confucius Kong family who were Duke Yansheng, Marquis and Lord in a continous straight line since the Qin dynasty in the 200s BC and Celestial Master in Zhang Daoling’s family.

                  Every dynasty absorbed the institutions and government organs including the permanent nobility of the former dynasties. All dynasties recongized those noble families and titles. Han, Jin, Sui, Tang,Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing, Republic of China.

                  Where is the 2,000 year old Roman nobility on Italy?

                  https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634433167906.gif

                  All dynasties in China from the Zhou to the Qing also called themselves Zhongguo 中國.

                  The Qing dynasty even translated Zhongguo into Manchu as Dulimbai Gurun to use as the official name of the Qing in treaties.

                  The Manchu versions of the Treaty of Nerchinsk and Kyakhta refer to the Qing as Dulimbai Gurun 中國, where the Russian and Latin versions say China. They do not use the name Daicing Gurun in those treaties.

                  In the History of Yuan, when the the son of the Mongol official Toqtoa was talking about Japanese spies, he referred to the Yuan state as 中國 and boasted on how powerful it is so the spies could see.

                  The Zhou, Han, Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing all called their state Zhongguo along with the dynastic name.

                  >different ruling class!

                  As an example of Zhongguo’s permanence, it had the same permanent civilian nobility. The descendants of Confucius held the title of Lord, Marquis and Duke Yansheng since the Qin dynasty down to the Republic of China for 2,200 years.

                  The descendants of Zhang Daoling held the title Celestial Master for 2,200 years since the Han dynasty and were recognized by the Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing, Republic of China.

                  This also includes the descendants of Confucius disciples, Mencius, Zengzi, Yan Hui, and the dozens of Tusi chieftains in southwestern China.

                  China’s civilian nobility and it’s families stays the same, always, for thousands of years.

                  The military nobility of China changes in each dynasty. The Qing military nobility included Han like the families of Shi Lang, Li Yongfang, etc.

                  the Confucius Duke Yansheng and Celestial Masters of the Zhang family recognized and were recognized by all those dynasties for millenia. The same noble peerages and families were in those dynasties for over 2,000 years recognizing each as the successor to the previous. And they still exist today, both in Taiwan and on the mainland.

                  Manchu Jurchen history

                  https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/8477456#p8479888

                  You can read more about Jurchens and Manchus here.

                  http://archive.is/Vh8Bb

                  http://archive.is/vEObP

                  http://archive.is/oiZID

          • #225252
            Anonymous
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            https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634434591961.png

            China
            >Conquers China
            lol ok

            Also gets conquered by Mongols, Manchurians, and their own peasants, rinse and repeat. "China" is a pathetically transient and abstract entity with no real continuity as a nation and/or culture

            I’m not even American, which makes the idea that you actually got so triggered that you actually had to type up an entire essay all the funnier.

            You know how objectively inferior and frail the Chinese ‘nation’ has been historically and are so confused by your own identity that you chimp out like this whenever someones calls it for how it is. God you chinks are truly pathetic.

            The Han Chinese conquered Mongolia and Central Asia (including Shiwei who were ancestors of Mongols). China conquered the Gokturks and Gokturk girls became slaves.

            The Turkic Orkhon stele say nomad Gokturk girls became slaves to the Chinese.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkhon_inscriptions#Relations_with_the_Chinese

            >The inscriptions even describe the Turks being enslaved by the Chinese.

            > "Because of want of harmony between the begs and the people, and because of the Chinese people’s cunning and craft and its intrigues, and because the younger and the elder siss chose to take counsel against one another and bring discord between begs and people, they brought the old realm of the Turkic people to dissolution, and brought destruction on its lawful kagans. The sons of the nobles became the bondsmen of the Chinese people, their unsullied daughters became its slaves. The Turkic begs gave up their Turkic names, and bearing the Chinese names of Chinese begs they obeyed the Chinese Emperor, and served him during fifty years. For him they waged war in the East towards the sun’s rising, as far as Bokli kagan, in the West they made expeditions as far as Taimirkapig; for the Chinese Emperor they conquered kingdoms and power. The whole of the common Turkic people said thus: ‘I have been a nation that had its own kingdom; where is now my kingdom? For whom do I win the kingdoms? said they. I have been a people that had its own kagan; where is my kagan? Which kagan is it I serve?’"

            https://www.jstor.org/stable/607024

            It says it right here.

            https://archive.org/details/Ross1930BSOASOrkhon/page/n4

            On the next page 865

            https://archive.org/details/Ross1930BSOASOrkhon/page/n5

            Tang China resettled Sogdian subjects of the Gokturks after defeating and conquering the Gokturks in Mongolia like how Han China raped and conquered the Xiongnu centuries before.

    • #225017
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes, what German/Prussians are to Europe the Japanese are to Asia

      pic related

    • #225026
      Anonymous
      Guest

      We know you are a takahashi leaping as a weeb. since you forgot about the Mongols or Manchus

    • #225028
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Oh no no no

      • #225029
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Pretty small potatoes compared to how the USSR essentially steamrolled right through Manchuria and obliterated an entire army group effortlessly in 1945

    • #225030
      Anonymous
      Guest

      No, they expanded in the 19th century thanks to technological advances and foreign army advisors.

      Karate comes from Okinawa and before that from China, like most of the other martial arts.

      • #225033
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Also they’re longstanding tradition with a warrior ruling class and a resulting militaristic outlook

    • #225035
      Anonymous
      Guest

      they were the only country to have their cities nuked so no.

    • #225036
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes, but what of it?

    • #225082
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Raped, shaved and enslaved.

      • #225257
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Chinamen doing what they do best

      • #225259
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Hey, schizospammer, by any chance would you be circumcised?

    • #225150
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Jap monkeys never successfully conquered China unlike steppe peoples multiple times with far numerically inferior forces.

      They were on the initiative to attack each time, but they were always equally balanced with China, with China holding out at the very end.

      so they are not as proficient as steppe regimes , but do better than Chinese per capita

    • #225241
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Lying Chinese shill.

      Lies blatantly about his identity and therefore cannot trust it (“him”) with anything else.

      you are a literal it.

    • #225253
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.4cdn.org/his/1634436454283.png

      History of Chinese males in Japan

      China-Japan relations in the Tang dynasty

      https://desuarchive.org/his/8101383

      https://desuarchive.org/his/8078561#q8118828

      Han sex tourism of Yamato women. Chinese men from Nanjing were breeding Japanese women over 200 years before the Nanjing massacre in 1937. Japanese soldiers in Nanjing had Chinese male ancestors in their lineage freaking their great great grandmothers

      http://www.eastasianhistory.org/39/vos-foibles

      >As a matter of fact many Chinese seem to have worried about the education and future of such children. Huang Chê-ch’ing,12 a captain from Nanking, had a liaison with Yakumo,13 a girl from the Iwataya, and fathered a boy Kimpachi,14 his only child. In 1723, when he was 71, he returned to Nagasaki to meet his son. He then brought goods with him sufficient to take care of his son for the rest of his life and asked the Chief Administrator’s Office for a special permit to barter them.[55]

      Han Chinese men left massive sperm deposits in Japanese women in Japan since the Middle Ages

      […]

      […]

      . The Japanese government even forced Chinese men to leave sons they fathered with Japanese women in Japan

      […]

      while infanticiding Japanese boys

      […]

      , expanding Chinese paternal genes among Japanese

      Chinese sex tourists regularly visited Japan since the late middle ages and fathered children in temporary relationships with Japanese women. Japanese designated Japanese girls as karayuki san for sleeping with Chinese men and oranda yuki san for sleeping with Dutch men

      The Chinese men were very emotional with their Japanese hooker lovers and left them sentimental gifts, formed suicide pacts with them and taught them how to make sweets, leaving behind funds for their bastard illegitimate children together

      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/35207620_The_karayuki-san_of_Asia_1868-1938_the_role_of_prostitutes_overseas_in_Japanese_economic_and_social_development

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karayuki-san

    • #225258
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The chinkspammer never fails to show up in these threads lmao

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