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>A little over 9% of people are 80iq or under
What the FUCK?
Is picrel really true? Has anyone here interacted with low iq individuals? What can be done about this problem? -
>makes an entire post just to lie about how low IQ people really are cognitively speaking
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Are they not that way? I can’t say I’ve ever really interacted with an 80iq person.
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Ask me how I know you have a scrotebrained Down’s Syndrome freak as a sister or a cousin.
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I don’t
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>Has anyone here interacted with low iq individuals?
Yeah-
i kek’d
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3pbp
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OP utterly BTFO’d
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pretty accurate. I have met people like that, natives from northern canada, heavy alcoholics that have suffered head injuries.
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Brazilian here, half the country here is like that
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come to brazil
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Jair Bolsonaro is your president, STFU
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>autists can emulate theory of mind
Is the difference that it’s not as "intuitive" an understanding of other people? I’d argue it might not be genuinely different if it’s good enough "emulation".-
It think it’s totally different. Just emulating superficial differences doesn’t mean you actually understand it
Someone emulating empathy would just drop the pretense as soon as it’s not beneficial to do so anymore-
But we’re talking theory of mind, not empathy.
It can’t be that an approximation doesn’t count, since some animals are considered to have theory of mind despite having no comprehension of what a human is actually thinking.
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Well there’s at least one big difference, in how about you come to understand others and end up viewing them
If you naturally have the ability you don’t think about it
But if you have to use knowledge and experience to understand other people your relation to them will not be the same.
You see this with autistis on /r9k/ all the time, they just hate having to mingle with normies since it’s a considerable mental effort
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Basically everyone who posts online is above average intellect. Srs. We’re all like introvert nerds on the web.
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Nah sis lmao. Take a walk on twitter.
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yeah this used to be true but no longer
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>introvert
Introversion is a low IQ trait lol-
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That summary is literally saying "extraversion-intelligence" correlation is slightly lower than previously thought, but still observed. If your brain gets tired from the simple task of talking and thinking socially you are low IQ, so enfach ist das.
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Intelligence and personality traits are uncorrelated, or at least it is weaker than ending a sentence with lol.
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https://i.imgur.com/mFPmmlc.gif
Since the advent of phones, this is not the case.
This is still the case on LULZ though, since the mental effort required to sift through hundreds of posts, with no indication of their potential value ( names, voting, et cetera ) require probably at least 100+IQ.-
Even LULZ, presumably one of the handful of smartest boards, has people with <100 IQ. It’s pretty safe to say they’re not that uncommon on other boards.
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It may have a few under 100, but every LULZ board has spelling, grammar, vocabulary, and style way above the internet average.
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>way above the internet average
Above the twitter, youtube and facebook average at least, but yes LULZ is above average on average, however there are more ‘brainlets’ than you think. Do an archive search and you’ll find that most self admitted brainlets (at least on LULZ) have perfectly fine spelling, grammar and vocabulary.
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>/sci/, presumably one of the handful of smartest boards
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>/sci/, presumably
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This hasn’t been true in 3 decades. We are still living in the September that never ended.
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Milscrote here, I have seen the most unbelievably dumb shit
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story time?
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10x alligator death roll
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I assume he means that the color of the houses would go from yellow to green, but misworded it a bit. You’re probably meant to map the arrow on the houses rather than the street.
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nvm, didn’t read the "from yellow to green" sentence
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it’s okay anon, we can’t all be 100+ iq
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What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch.
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Cull/sterlize <100IQ. Include dual n-back in education for 100-130 IQ.
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That’s racist.
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Why dual n-back ? At best it should only be 10 minutes per day. You need actual learning about the world for the rest of the time like what is already done today. Perhaps using spaced repetitions software like anki to help with long term retention might help too.
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Dual (triple, quad, etc…) n-back has a glimmer of a chance to be actually effective in raising IQ. Anecdotal, but I have raised my IQ from ~134 to ~147 through a year and a half of doing it 30 minutes a day, 5 days a week; checked with decent online tests (different ones each time, obviously) and two actual psychologist administered ones. I do think it has made me think more clearly, and it did give me crazy dream recall.
Ofc it shouldn’t consume the entire school day. I do think kids should be doing it regularly for some short period in school. It’s fun to laugh at IQlets and feed genetic blackpills but I don’t think people should be doomed to midwittism if they could possibly help it. However there is a minimum trainability.-
thanks anon. this thread was kinda all over the place in general and although I disagree with your Thanos snap politics I really do appreciate you telling us about this dual n-back stuff. I’m gonna do it and try and join mensa or something idk
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>Thanos snap politics
I was half-joking, I am admittly to much of a lolbert to unironically support wholesale slaughter. Nothing overly coercive, the extent should be encouragement and nudging dummies to not have kids and the opposite for smart people.
Pro tip make sure your sessions are at least 20 minutes and do it consistently. Don’t worry about plateauing on levels; a lot of people get stuck on 4-back and the max I’ve heard someone doing is 12-back. Keep at it regardless.-
all good and yeah I’m gonna use this:
https://brainscale.net/dual-n-back
and their suggestions sound like what you’re talking about. is this the one you use/used?-
That one is fine but after a while it makes you wait a minute between each round so that you’ll pay for their shit. I use http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net
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cool I’ll save this one too
this is now an IQ raising thread
anyone try racetams or other nootropics? I think they’re pretty sweet
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That doesn’t fry your brain? Maybe n-back uncovers the reason why I can’t live up to my higher IQ, because 15-20 minutes of n-back exhausts my brain and fucks up any other intellectual endeavors for hours. It’s why I’ve never stuck with n-back for more than a few weeks, it just feels like my mental energy could be better used on something that I know well provide some eventual benefit.
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Really n-back probably just reels in adhd without meds which lets you concentrate to your full potential instead of having a song playing in your head, thinking about dinner, worrying about bills next week, thinking about that last show you watched/game you played, all at the same time. Probably knocks off a few IQ points because the tests are timed. I always find myself trying to stop thinking about those things but then the meta act of thinking about thinking only makes it worse.
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>9% of people are 80iq or under
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It won’t be that obvious because there are other factors at play and all people most of the time are just on socially-determined autopilot.
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I grew up in Africa where that’s about 60% of the population.
>What can be done about this problem?
Why is it a "problem", they lead happy productive lives. The only problem is trying to force them into modern Western economic structures. There are plenty of jobs that low IQs can do that pay enough to feed themselves. Not everyone needs to work in the high tech or finance sectors.Watson was right about that. Instead of cruelly trying to push them through Western education and watered down university, you should instead focus on creating jobs catering to them. Literal downies can work in a coffee shop. But most people can work on a manufacturing line or pick produce.
I short you need to generate more manufacturing jobs using manual labour since agri is saturated.
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If suspect that the Chinese have every interest in that not happening.
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if you’re nice, charming, and attractive people may overestimate you by like 30 pts
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Remember guys, you share democratic vote with these people.
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>is picrel true
yes
>has anyone interacted with these people
several times as i work in neuropsychiatrics
>what can be done
why should something be done? is low intelligence automatically a handicap? are people with 150+ IQ whose only mission in life is spreading autistic war slogans on incel forums contributing more to society than a 75IQ sandwich maker?-
I think we’d be a lot better off if everyone could at least handle hypotheticals.
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We’re really still animals who managed to make basic concepts abstract for whatever reason and form complex societies. The only thing that separates our complex societies from a pod of dolphins is that we’ve been blessed with bipedalism and hands and turning death into a subconscious abstract concept has led us to form civilizations and destroy them.
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>A little over 9% of people are 80iq or under
no that’s wrong.
The global average IQ is around 83 and falling every year so the reality is that it’s actually much much higher-
>The global average IQ is around 83
the average score on IQ tests is 100 anon-
So europeans are actually 117IQ?
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Do you think anime lovers are lower or higher IQ on average?
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They’re more autistic.
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You have to be able to use a computer and read subtitles to consume most anime outside of Japan so yes. Same as with any other category that automatically filters the sub-85s
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as a geniuine concern, woke af on how some behavioral conditions (borderline) do have exposure to one listed on the handbook (diagnostic manual) so going on this basis,is exposure to low iqs possible? it is of severe concern and can be used as a false flag to keep the brainlets out of LULZ mandated IQ test and etc
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meant exposure to low IQ’s being a possible factor in lowering it ? just like exposure to narcisiccim is a real thing
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It’s normalized, you miserable disgusting little midwit. 50% of people are below 100 IQ.
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What does that have to do with a little over 9% of people being under 80 iq?
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If IQ is statistically normalized, 9% of people are always going to be under 80 IQ. Even if the world’s intelligence increases massively, if you re-normalize it, 9% of people are still going to be under 80IQ
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Did you read op’s image?
The issue here is not that a certain amount of people are under an arbitrary number, it’s that a large chunk of people (seemingly) cannot handle basic human functions.
>Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80’s
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It’s normalized to 1960s white Americans. The planet’s average IQ is below 100.
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My IQ was professionally tested at 88 and I have no problem with any of those tasks, so I’m either one of the ‘lucky’ 5% or it’s just bullshit made up by /poo/ so that they can talk about how black people should be euthanized some more. The ‘hacked by nazis’ line makes me think it’s the latter.
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This post is pretty funny to read. At first, you come of as a fairly articulate person. Then in the second sentence you show a weakness in modeling the identities/motivations of the people in and/or writing the greentext conversation that corresponds to the kind of thing this would predict.
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Guys like him have their IQ lowered because of the overhead of being in a perpetual state of seething.
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>tested at 88
>hacked by nazis
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Irony? On my LULZ? -
according to your assumption, you’re not the lucky 5%, you’re exactly like the type described in OPs image
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Dunno, just looked up the thread it was posted in and it looks like my assumption was pretty accurate.
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Reminder.
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That image assumes you interact with a group of people representative of the population. It’s simply not true if you live in a decent neighborhood, have a decent job, and are decently educated.
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Correct, there are exceptions to the rule. Not everybody lives in a white suburban neighborhood.
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The average for American whites is very close to 100. Adjusting to middle class income only brings it up a couple of points.
So even in the suburbs close to half the population are below 100.
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You can look up the National assessment of adult literacy, look at the question levels and see how many people get them right to get a good judgment of how smart different segments of the population are.
https://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/sample_items.asp-
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>Percent who answered correctly – 59.6%
Jesus Christ help us.-
Amerilards factoring in linner and dunch, the 5th and 6th most important meals of the day.
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>unless otherwise directed by your doctor
Very sneaky trick question. The answer is actually 12:00 as long as your doctor says it’s ok.-
Nice troll.
There’s no indication that the patient has been otherwise directed by his doctor.
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3:35
t. 88 IQ
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Wrong. It’s 2:57
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Technically, yes, practically, no. Why would you ride from where you are already at to downtown, just to ride back on the same 3:35 bus and arrive at the same time?
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>arrive at the same time
You’d actually arrive half an hour later.
Anyway, very weaselly if it is a trick question.
But maybe that explains why correct answers were only 36%.
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>Math
>You know what I mean
I don’t. I have a freaking bachelors in math, aced most of my senior level math courses, and would still be described as sub 90 IQ by that guy.-
The speaks more to the deterioration of university standards than it does to your competency I’m afraid.
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Well I got published in JHEP three times, each with 20+ citations. Is that also deteriorating in quality? It appears you failed to consider the hypothetical that maybe I’m dyslexic.
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>Is that also deteriorating in quality?
Yes.
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>17.6% answered correctly
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Makes sense, I have no idea what the foot to yard conversion is.
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3ft = 1 yard
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Sure, I used google to check afterwards what it was. But I’m assuming that wasn’t an option for the test takers.
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What the fuck? I can understand not being able to read a bus table if you don’t live in a city or something, but not being able to calculate the area of a rectangle? Maybe it’s the carpet being sold in terms of square yards that tripped some people up.
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How about this?
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What the fuck? There’s no way that this is a representative sample of the US. I refuse to believe it.
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And that’s in 2003.
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I think the dotted lines threw them off. They probably drew the dot above the dotted line, ending the "trend" of being below the dotted line. Or something.
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They better mark the people who places marks lower than the very first point as correct, or the researches are actual brainlets.
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Looks like they marked it right to me.
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You could place a dot between two dots, just below the previous dots, no?
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Yeesh, that’s grim.
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>40% answered correctly
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In this case, not getting an accurate answer may correlate having a higher IQ to some extent.
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How so?
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By not being a burger
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you don’t need to know what an ounce actually is to solve that problem
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Mine.
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oh no no no
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So what are your thoughts on the OP image?
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I can visualize things fairly well in my head, so I’m pretty sure my iq is not that low, but english is not my native language + my fluid intelligence is crap, after years of sedentarism, passivity, isolation, cooming and not producing 1 single original thought. I feel like i fried my brain over the years and i’m only 16. Wouldn’t be surprised if i get diagnosed with some form of ADHD, autism or any shit like that. And is such an irony that as a kid i was considered extremely inteligent and one of my best in every school i went to
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>and i’m only 16.
Sorry kid, you must be 18 or older to go on this ride-
blueboard, safe for kids
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MODSSSSSSS
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>gets himself banned
IQ checks out
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LOL
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>Has anyone here interacted with low iq individuals?
How have you not???
>What can be done about this problem?
Vote Democrat and/or eugenic purges.-
>Vote Democrat
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>Vote
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it’s more like 13%
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Thinly veiled brave shill thread
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>dual nback
I’m unimpressed
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Sure I’ve known plenty of people like that, but I self-segregate myself so I talk to people who are usually at least of middling intelligence.
They’re a combination of less prepared for the real world but simultaneously naive enough to be unconcerned by the fact that they’re completely bonked. Also they actually reproduce so they’re always going to be more plentiful than the kind of people who jerk off to their gigabrains.
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>In this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
I kind of wonder if most people being tested were actually too stupid to understand these concepts or if they are the types whose eyes just glaze over when they’re explained those concepts in ‘technical’ sounding language.
A child in school might be easily able to tell such a story and do so all the time to his friends. But sit the child down in a room with a sheet of paper using boring ‘adult’ sound language and tell him YOU MUST COMPLETE THIS TASK and you can see the spark kind of die in his eyes.>How do you think that man felt when you beat him?
>Dunno.
Just sounds like an evasive, unengaged answer. Yeah, they may be stupid and emotionally undeveloped but again, think of a child.
If they’re asked how another person felt and they say "I don’t know…." it’s not necessarily because they actually can’t conceive of others having feelings. It’s because they’re becoming withdrawn and inarticulate because they’re overwhelmed with shame.RE: the thing about meals at the beginning, I wonder if most of them might demonstrate understanding that they’d feel hungry and maybe unwell if they missed a meal and probably would even complain and discuss it with other inmates if it ever happened to them. They’d probably feel anxiety if someone told them that their meals might be taken away as punishment. And they’d probably even be able to understand a scenario in which you were saying it might happen but it might not, we’re not sure yet.
What they don’t understand is the POINT of the hypotheticals and being asked these questions. They don’t have any concept of these sorts of experiments. I don’t think most people with average IQs do either. They’re just aware that they’re a ‘thing’ and vaguely think of them as being helpful to some section of society.-
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I’m not saying these people aren’t stupid.
I just question whether they’re quite as stupid as that poster had concluded.
Yeah, it’s dumb to find the concept and utility of hypotheticals (and others’ interest in them) so difficult and incomprehensible but that’s a different thing from having no concept of hypotheticals at all.I’m reminded of Clive Wearing, a man with perpetual amnesia and almost no working memory who isn’t able to learn anything new. He gets distressed if you take things head on or try to actually discuss new subjects.
But somewhere it was noted that he actually did absorb new info, just in an extremely passive way.
He grew accustomed to the care home he was placed in could perform his daily routines on autopilot and he also would ask occasionally about major world news events that had occurred years after his brain damage.For all intents and purposes, you can say he has no memory and can learn anything new but there’s a chasm of difference between that glib interpretation and the more complicated reality.
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>a thoughtful, informed post on LULZ
/tg/ is down the hall
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I’m reminded of Clive Wearing, a man with perpetual amnesia and almost no working memory who isn’t able to learn anything new. He gets distressed if you take things head on or try to actually discuss new subjects.
But somewhere it was noted that he actually did absorb new info, just in an extremely passive way.
He grew accustomed to the care home he was placed in could perform his daily routines on autopilot and he also would ask occasionally about major world news events that had occurred years after his brain damage.For all intents and purposes, you can say he has no memory and can learn anything new but there’s a chasm of difference between that glib interpretation and the more complicated reality.
Assuming the ‘study’ is real, the sample population was prisoners who don’t exactly live in an intellectually stimulating environment, plus they probably had much worse levels of education compared to regular <90 IQ people. I doubt many of them even know what a gradient is, or what ascending means. Ask employed people of <90 IQ the same questions and I doubt the results would be the same.
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I had to read this comment on another board a few times to get it. How high does that make my IQ?
>Goofing with your friends will never not be something people wont enjoy.-
Honestly I’m still not entirely sure I understand it.
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some university in my country once discovered that one in four new law students didn’t even know the rule of three
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Wow, that’s really racist and antisemite.
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Sounds like larp to me
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Describes blacks perfectly. Weird.
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High-IQ psychopath here. So you’re saying that if I didn’t have to constantly expend brain power brute-force modeling the people around me, I wouldn’t be mentally exhausted all the time?
So the normies are literally killing me with their mere presence. I freaking knew it.-
No, you’re just mentally deficient and waste brain power on things that normal people’s brains handle no problem subconsciously.
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