4k honestly just seems like a huge meme

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    • #106274
      Anonymous
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      Honestly just seems like a huge meme.

    • #106275
      Anonymous
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      i haven’t given a fuck about any quality change after 1080. after that it’s like do i need to be able to count the actors’ pores? fuck no.

    • #106276
      Anonymous
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      It depends how bad your eyesight is which most people don’t even realize will deteriorate with age. A lot of people will still max the living fuck out of anti-aliasing at 1440 but obviously mostly the younger generation.

      • #106290
        Anonymous
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        https://i.imgur.com/Mhmtiw7.gif

        >confuses height with width
        state of this board

      • #106298
        Anonymous
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        To be fair you have to take into account deterioration of vision due to aging. It’s basically the same thing FLAC vs lossy, a 60 year old just isn’t going to have the same fresh hardware as he did when he was 20.

        It’s called glasses, an ancient technology used to correct for vision deterioration. I wasn’t aware zoomers didn’t know about this technology.

        • #106305
          Anonymous
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          I’m not talking about farsightedness, that’s obviously easy to correct but degradation to the optic nerve, brain, cornea, etc all eventually lead to 20/40 vision and worse (where it become illegal to drive) even with glasses/surgery. It’s not freaking rocket science, the body of a 60 year old is going to be a broken pile of smoldering dogshit compared to the body of a 20 year old.

          • #106314
            Anonymous
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            What the fuck are you talking about? A 20/40 vision is a measure of how well you can perceive objects at length, easily fixable with glasses, what does that have to do with the ridiculous statements you made?

            There are physical problems with eyes as you age, either fixable by glasses in terms of detail perception, coloration due to physical deterioration of the eye lense (fixable by relatively simple surgery). If you have problems with vision that you attribute to your brain function or going legally blind you are dealing with a problem far bigger than how many pixels you can resolve. It’s definitely not something the average 60 year old with corrected vision would experience, who would have the same vision capabilities as the 20 year old in your scenario.

            The analogy using hearing is scrotebrained for many reasons, hearing loss in both volume but more importantly tone happens as you age and there is very little you can do about to correct for it other than listening to higher volume, and your loss of sound range you can hear happens naturally so younger people have objectively better hearing capabilities.

            • #106319
              Anonymous
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              Eyes are like cameras. The lenses get scratched and the cmos sensor gets worse over time. Maybe one day we’ll be able to rip out eyeballs including the optic nerve and portion of the brain that deals with vision and replace it all with lab grown/synthetic parts to restore vision from when you were 20 but as of right now our vision just becomes complete freaking dogshit as we age and there’s not much we can really do about it.

              • #106326
                Anonymous
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                Again, these are issues you can correct with ancient technology and some relatively simple surgery. I don’t see how anything discussed in this thread has anything to do with theoretical decreases in vision from brain deterioration that you would have a hard time quantifying at any level, age related vision problems are mostly related to physical deterioration we can solve. A 60 year old shouldn’t have any problems seeing the same image quality as a 20 year old given correct vision.

      • #106304
        Anonymous
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        >1080 width
        >1920 height
        bait

        • #106306
          Anonymous
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          It doesn’t matter, 1080p no matter the orientation is still a pathetic 2 megapixels and laughable 82 PPI on a 27 inch display. God dam I never knew 1080p was that dogshit….

          • #106307
            Anonymous
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            1080p was fine 10 years ago when 23inch was the norm and >60hz was unheard of
            nowadays, buying a new 1080p is scrotebrained
            (unless professional FPS player and getting 360hz panel)
            i’d say even if you own a decent 1080p already its a good idea to upgrade
            4k is so much better for productivity and movies/shows/youtube/cinematic games if your GPU can hang
            for games, 1440p/144 is not a bad upgrade either, especially coming from a 1080p/60 panel

            • #106308
              Anonymous
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              >nowadays, buying a new 1080p is scrotebrained
              do i give you my paypal, btc address or some other method so you can pay for my 4k monitor ?

              • #106309
                Anonymous
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                you can literally get 4k monitors for less than $300
                though, to be fair, given that most people on LULZ are nerds…
                and nerds tend to spend multiple hours per day looking at their monitor…
                and monitors tend to stick around for years and years…
                you should spend $400-500 at least for a actually decent panel
                imo it doesn’t make sense to cheap out on something you will use for thousands of hours…

                • #106310
                  Anonymous
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                  it doesn’t give me any real benefit over 1080p monitor. its just luxury product for people with too much spare money.

                  • #106311
                    Anonymous
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                    it does
                    see

                    on the left, a bunch of text on a 27inch 1080p screen
                    on the right, the same text on a 27inch 4k screen, with 200% scaling
                    the font is the same, hard as it is to believe
                    the physical size of the letters is the same on both screens, due to the scaling
                    do you understand now?

                    and

                    this is pretty accurate for a lot of people
                    see picrel by rtings for what distances/screen sizes make different resolutions worth it

                    • #106315
                      Anonymous
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                      text looks nicer but its not benefiting me any way

                      • #106317
                        Anonymous
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                        >text looks nicer
                        that’s a benefit?
                        and its not just prettier, its also easier to resolve
                        meaning less eye strain
                        especially if you’re looking at said text for multiple hours
                        and its not just text, everything looks nicer
                        a 4k movie/show/youtube vid will look nicer
                        a 4k game will look nicer
                        that’s the whole point of a better monitor, isn’t it?
                        for shit to look nicer
                        nobody claimed your dick will get bigger if you get a better screen

                      • #106320
                        Anonymous
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                        >and its not just prettier, its also easier to resolve
                        >meaning less eye strain
                        >especially if you’re looking at said text for multiple hours
                        show me researches about eye strain compared to 1080p monitor
                        >everything looks nicer
                        it doesn’t benefit me anyway. its a luxury product, just for aesthetics for things looking nicer than they look now. i will happily keep using my 150 euro 1080p monitor and consider 4k only when the prices drop to something reasonable. paying 500 euros to have nicer font, noty

            • #106312
              Anonymous
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              Found The Shill

              • #106313
                Anonymous
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                yes, you caught me
                the monitor industry has long been infiltrating LULZ for marketing reasons
                not any particular company, just, you know, the whole industry as a whole
                its clear that more pixels doesn’t make pictures better
                nor does more FPS make movement smoother and clearer
                go ahead, chad, keep using that 10 year old TN
                that $300-500 you save will make all the difference in your life
                you could probably buy a house with all that extra money

            • #106332
              Anonymous
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              >4k is so much better for movies
              That’s just the thing, isn’t it? Aren’t most "4K" Blu-Rays just upscaled 2K?

              • #106333
                Anonymous
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                don’t think so
                im sure they exist, but anything new will be real 4k
                and anything old that’s been "remastered" will also be real 4k

    • #106277
      Anonymous
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      It has never been empirically demonstrated that the human eye can perceive more than 1366×768.

      • #106334
        Anonymous
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        why was 768p chosen instead of 720p?

        • #106339
          Anonymous
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          Same height as 1024×768, but 16:9

    • #106278
      Anonymous
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      Negative 4 dioptria means even 720p is fine.

    • #106279
      Anonymous
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      As a general rule of thumb you should be 3 feet away from a 27 inch monitor and with good 20/20 vision it’s possible to discern up to 180 PPI with 0 anti-aliasing.

    • #106280
      Anonymous
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      It’s even worse that movies are more often filmed on digital high res cameras with ultra sharp lenses. There’s no smoothing of analog film, no soft focus. Actors tend to look worse
      Just like the other anon said, do you really want to see all the pores on an actors face?

    • #106281
      Anonymous
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      picrel is a very simple way to find out if a higher resolution monitor would benefit you or not. Nothing in picrel has any amount of anti-aliasing applied.

      Watching it at 1:1 scale/100% zoom on your monitor at 3 feet away, if you notice 0 anti-aliasing or very little of it then a higher resolution monitor is probably not worth it.

      • #106338
        Anonymous
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        Interdasting, although since most shit is AA idk why you’d test your monitor without it.

    • #106282
      Anonymous
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      obligatory
      https://4kmedia.org/real-or-fake-4k/
      basically only an handful of movies are well rendered in 4K or HDR (2001 A Space Odyssey, Avatar, Apollo 11, Hunt for Red October, Blade runner 1 & 2019, Your Name, LOTR and the Hobbit series, wreck it ralph), for the rest high-bitrate 1080p are more than fine

    • #106283
      Anonymous
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      ITT: "I’m poor and could only recently move to 1080p60 via hdmi so everything better is a meme"

      • #106284
        Anonymous
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        To be fair you have to take into account deterioration of vision due to aging. It’s basically the same thing FLAC vs lossy, a 60 year old just isn’t going to have the same fresh hardware as he did when he was 20.

      • #106295
        Anonymous
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        This. You coping poorscrotes always crack me up.

    • #106285
      Anonymous
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      on the left, a bunch of text on a 27inch 1080p screen
      on the right, the same text on a 27inch 4k screen, with 200% scaling
      the font is the same, hard as it is to believe
      the physical size of the letters is the same on both screens, due to the scaling
      do you understand now?

      • #106288
        Anonymous
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        Not him but I was never bothered by it.

      • #106291
        Anonymous
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        yeah of course looking at it with a microscope it will look better, but will it matter from viewing distance ?

        • #106293
          Anonymous
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          it seems to me the difference is clearly visible
          and no microscope was used

      • #106294
        Anonymous
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        I thought 1080p was enough for everyone until I got a new job that supplied me with one of those Mac 5k monitors. The difference is day and night and my 27" 1080 monitors look like pixelated shit next to it.
        That’s for computing, for movies I’ve switched to 4k a long time ago and 4k movies for most part just feel crispier and cleaner. 1917 is a recent one I watched and it looked fantastic. Haven’t done direct side by side comparison to the 1080 Blu-ray disc, but thinking of other movies that I’ve watched from 1080p BD only, 4k generally stands out (even on a 55" TV).

        • #106300
          Anonymous
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          Most people have seen the bluray copy of Lord of the rings, so pick up a UHD bluray copy and see the difference.

          • #106301
            Anonymous
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            I haven’t seen any Lord of the Rings at all lmao

    • #106286
      Anonymous
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      bumperino for the editfication of LULZtards on the benefits of 4k

    • #106287
      Anonymous
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      Moved to 4k years ago
      I ain’t never been more immersed
      Having a screen that is 49" and still crisp is just awesome.

      Games like elite dangerous makes me feel I’m somewhat in a cockpit

      I know VR can even be better but VR also requires your full undivided attention

    • #106289
      Anonymous
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      It’s meme until you see one in real life and then it’s not a meme anymore.

    • #106292
      Anonymous
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      4K is whatever, but HDR is cool, I’m not aware of any 1080p HDR movies though

    • #106296
      Anonymous
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      Definitely not for computer monitors as you sit so close that pretty much any jump in resolution is going to be easily seen as being much sharper, and of course the added screen real estate is obvious.

      For TVs the distance at 55" 4K most people have their TV too far away to be able to tell the difference, at 65" it depends but in some cases you might be close enough but most people have their TVs beyond 2,5+ meters. Problem is the comparison is typically done from people with faulty logic or understanding, where every improvement in TV image processing, wider color gamuts, HDR etc gets thrown into the 1080p vs 4K argument. Any 1080p TV you can buy is going to be dogshit compared to say a LG C1 for other reasons than just resolutions.

      • #106297
        Anonymous
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        this is pretty accurate for a lot of people
        see picrel by rtings for what distances/screen sizes make different resolutions worth it

    • #106299
      Anonymous
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      i use my 4k monitor for production and watching media shit
      i dont like using it for gayming though and i just use my 1440p one

    • #106302
      Anonymous
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      is your eyesight failing or can you just not afford to run it

    • #106303
      Anonymous
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      poorscrote cope thread?

    • #106316
      Anonymous
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      I have a 4k monitor and I think it is worthwhile. I feel more productive, its like having two monitors in one.

    • #106318
      Anonymous
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      some more hidpi porn for the 4k chads
      again, comparing native 1080p with 4k at 200%

      • #106322
        Anonymous
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        >again, comparing native 1080p with 4k at 200%
        tfw basic shit still doesn’t support scaling properly, including microsoft’s own shit

        • #106327
          Anonymous
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          in 2021, most programs will support it
          especially the ones you’re likely to spend hours on
          browsers do, IDE’s do, obviously images/videos will work fine, games also
          sure, the old win32api settings menu or whatever might miss a beat
          but you will get the benefits the vast majority of the time

          • #106335
            Anonymous
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            A lot of stuff does, a lot of mission critical stuff doesn’t. That’s the issue. Changing back is easy, but annoying.

      • #106324
        Anonymous
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        >.py

        • #106329
          Anonymous
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          What scrote, you’re gonna write it in C# or .NET instead?

          • #106331
            Anonymous
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            Why not in Bash?

            • #106341
              Anonymous
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              How about I Bash your skull in?

    • #106321
      Anonymous
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      4k is meme created by the marketing department
      1440p is woke af

    • #106323
      Anonymous
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      wait for 16K unironically

      • #106325
        Anonymous
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        per

        this is pretty accurate for a lot of people
        see picrel by rtings for what distances/screen sizes make different resolutions worth it

        , 16k is unnecessary
        8k is kinda worth it, only for a 32inch monitor at standard monitor distances
        maybe also a huge TV up close, like a home theater setup
        16k is only needed for VR

        • #106328
          Anonymous
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          screen clarity goes beyond ppi and viewing distance for stuff like 3D images that are drawn and then displayed to the screen 90% of aliasing is removed at that resolution and clarity of textures and models goes way up you can check this with stuff like DSR also pixel presentation is better for movies during close up shots at the same screen size and distance
          I hope to see one day 16K replace 1080p as the new baseline

          • #106330
            Anonymous
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            i believe that graph is woke af the "you cant distinguish pixels anymore" limits
            probably woke af on whatever ppd the best eyes can achieve
            if you say there are benefits beyond that, ok, great, ill take your word for it
            but it would surely be diminishing returns, wouldn’t it?

            at any rate, right now 4k is pretty much the limit for video content
            i know you can find example 8k vids and such
            but in practice 4k is as good as it gets for 99% of everything out there
            ditto for games. even 3090s struggle with 4k high refresh on AAA games
            so its going to be a while before 8k is a thing for anything other than super crisp text

            4k/60hz is cheap now. not for 3rd worlders or whatever, but anyone in western EU or US can afford a $300 panel
            even 4k/144hz has gotten reasonable, there’s decent sub-$1k panels nowadays
            so i think its definitely the sweetspot for productivity and movies/shows
            probably for games too, given the new cheap(ish) 144hz panel
            even if you can’t afford the required GPU now, i expect within 1-2 GPU gens it will be doable with midrange cards

    • #106336
      Anonymous
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      it is

    • #106337
      Anonymous
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      It is a meme on TVs but not monitors

    • #106340
      Anonymous
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      I have a 27 in 4k monitor and it’s awesome. Lot of poorscrote cope in this thread.

      • #106343
        Anonymous
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        Recently got a 27 inch 1440p monitor and I wish I went with 2160p, but a good monitor leg and good colors were also important to me and a 4K monitor with these would be excessively expensive.
        A 1440p was reasonably priced for me though.
        With resolution more = better and it’s inarguable. I don’t understand why it’s up to a debate

        on the left, a bunch of text on a 27inch 1080p screen
        on the right, the same text on a 27inch 4k screen, with 200% scaling
        the font is the same, hard as it is to believe
        the physical size of the letters is the same on both screens, due to the scaling
        do you understand now?

        Just admit you’re poor like myself.

    • #106342
      Anonymous
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      Hdr and 4k are a big step up but 144hz and even 60hz for movies and vidya matter more

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