Civilisational spheres

Is it accurate?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Latin Americans and the Europeans they descended from are different enough to be separate spheres
    >but people in Morocco are basically the same as people in Indonesia
    absolute nonsense

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>but people in Morocco are basically the same as people in Indonesia
      They both belong to the Ummah, the Islamic commonwealth which transcends national boundaries. Among observant Muslims (which may or may not be majorities in these countries) nationalism is considered haram and a form of idolatory, so naturally many put the Islamic identity first.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Israel in western christendom
        Lol found the americuck kike worshipper.

        Functionally accurate, but there are a few changes to be made.
        Latin America and the Philippines should really be included in Western Christendom, Africa should be split into a Niger-Sahel group and a sub-Equatorial group, and Polynesia should be its own civilisation. Arguably, Tibet should be Buddhist, while SEA as a whole should be crosshatched with Hindu to represent the mixed cultural heritage of the area.

        While there is a great difference between a man from Jakarta and a man from Fez, the fact remains that the Jakartan would be far more comfortable living in Fez, and vice-versa, than a man from Lisbon would be in either city.

        You're both genuinely retarded.

        >Latin Americans and the Europeans they descended from are different enough to be separate spheres
        >but people in Morocco are basically the same as people in Indonesia
        absolute nonsense

        is right.

        >the fact remains that the Jakartan would be far more comfortable living in Fez, and vice-versa, than a man from Lisbon

        A man from Lisbon would feel much more at home in Brazil than an Indonesian in Fes you dumb cunt. It's a completely different language and culture for the Moroccan and Indonesian. It's not about where you feel at home, it's about whether the civilizations and cultures are different.

        If Ethiopia is its own thing, Iran should be its own thing as well. All mena and nafri arabs should have their own civ. South east asian muslims should and Turkic muslims should also have their own civ. See that's how easy it is.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why is West Africa not a part of the Ummah in this retarded map then?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't me who made it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Functionally accurate, but there are a few changes to be made.
      Latin America and the Philippines should really be included in Western Christendom, Africa should be split into a Niger-Sahel group and a sub-Equatorial group, and Polynesia should be its own civilisation. Arguably, Tibet should be Buddhist, while SEA as a whole should be crosshatched with Hindu to represent the mixed cultural heritage of the area.

      While there is a great difference between a man from Jakarta and a man from Fez, the fact remains that the Jakartan would be far more comfortable living in Fez, and vice-versa, than a man from Lisbon would be in either city.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about a man from Bangkok living in Jakarta?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Spain in a different Civilizational sphere than Latin America.
      Absolute mental illness.

      >Israel in western christendom
      Lol found the americuck kike worshipper.

      [...]
      You're both genuinely retarded. [...] is right.

      >the fact remains that the Jakartan would be far more comfortable living in Fez, and vice-versa, than a man from Lisbon

      A man from Lisbon would feel much more at home in Brazil than an Indonesian in Fes you dumb cunt. It's a completely different language and culture for the Moroccan and Indonesian. It's not about where you feel at home, it's about whether the civilizations and cultures are different.

      If Ethiopia is its own thing, Iran should be its own thing as well. All mena and nafri arabs should have their own civ. South east asian muslims should and Turkic muslims should also have their own civ. See that's how easy it is.

      I truly and honestly do not understand why Latin America is often treated as a separate civilization than the west. Economic differences aside their foundational tenants are all Western in conception and origin, from law to language to religion. Of course they have some differences at large but there are tons of cultural differences within the West too, they always just struck me as another cultural region like Germanic Europe or the Anglosphere. Obviously regions that are still overtly Native should be counted separately, but the mainstream culture that pervades Latin America really just feels like a subset of the West to me.

      Are you really saying that southern hemisphere iberian rape babies are part of western Christendom?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        More like a less successful spin off show that had food episodes and seasons here and there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You will never have a real ethnostate.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Spain in a different Civilizational sphere than Latin America.
    Absolute mental illness.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japan would not exist without sinic civilization

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What "Japan" should be?

      Which one?
      - Iranic
      - Egyptian
      - Latin
      - Mongolic
      - Koreanic
      - Turkic
      - Arabic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Japan and Korea are the same people
        But Japan are mixed with ainu

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Northern Nigeria, Gambia, Senegal, and a bunch of other regions of sub-Saharan Africa are not part of the Muslim world

    who's the retard who made this map lol

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Christian states in northeast india somehow Buddhist

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll add to the list of complaints and say that classifying PNG and the various pacific islands as Sinic seems pretty retarded

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I truly and honestly do not understand why Latin America is often treated as a separate civilization than the west. Economic differences aside their foundational tenants are all Western in conception and origin, from law to language to religion. Of course they have some differences at large but there are tons of cultural differences within the West too, they always just struck me as another cultural region like Germanic Europe or the Anglosphere. Obviously regions that are still overtly Native should be counted separately, but the mainstream culture that pervades Latin America really just feels like a subset of the West to me.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agree

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically racism + imperialist liberal mindset because Latin America kept the old ways and didn't fully accept all the new bullshit liberals have been inventing since the XIXth century assault on tradition.
      They'll say shit that would apply to Spain and Portugal until the 80s, that applied to most of Europe in the 30s and to some European countries today, etc are disqualifying (poverty, corruption, not libcuck enough, not secular globohomo enough, not a full democracy according to this or that NGO, not child-hating enough to have a shrinking population due to no births, etc). In their minds west = globohomo as manifested between London, Paris and Frankfurt

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >child-hating enough to have a shrinking population due to no births
        Their fertility rates are dropping hard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Latin America kept the old ways

        Where does this meme come from

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          All of it forced down people's throats by the judiciary. And I'm not talking laws, I'm talking culture. Latin America is the greatest example of pais real vs pais legal in the world. Legal elites act like they're European and try to copy every woke fad that comes out of Europe while the people get increasingly religious and have as their main concerns not bringing in more immigrants and making languages gender neutral but sanitation and crime.
          Outside Argentina and Uruguay and some big cities, all of latin America is effectively pre-liberal. Its people has a dominant culture of pre-modern familialism. No wonder it is filled with political dinasties only rivaled by asian ones.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sao Paulo’s pride parade had over 5 million people so it can’t be *that* conservative

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is a more accurate way of explaining

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oops I meant to say

                Latin America is relatively more conservative than Anglo America and retards not versed in the region think that makes them ultra traditional. They're basically somewhere between Eastern and Western Europe in terms of their attitudes, not anywhere close to being super traditional.

                explained it well

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Brazil's congress voted against gay marriage for decades until the supreme court decided that they were in violation of the constitution for "failing to take action" when it comes to this theme and made it legal by judicial fiat.
              They also "banned homophobia" by saying that "well racism is illegal and homophobia is kinda like racism so it should be illegal too?"
              Outside Argentina and Uruguay, that's what happened in every other country in the region.
              São Paulo has 12 million people, 20 in it's metropolitan area and 34 immediately close to it.
              homosexuals from the entire country join together and release inflated numbers (always larger than what the official police estimate is) and that becomes gospel.
              And this is the largest city on the continent on the richest part of one of its wealthiest and cosmopolitan regions.
              Latin America is in no way shape or form less conservative than eastern Europe. Eastern Europe doesn't have a Christian right with any relevancy outside Poland and barely 20% of people go to church on weekends.
              If anything eastern Europe is LESS conservative than Americans think (based! Russia has the largest abortion rate in the world for example) and they don't know much about Latin America (like for example that it's not tradcaths that are the most conservative demographics there, but protestants).
              If anything the greatest difference between both is that eastern Europe has less of a representative democratic crisis and it's elite is less pozzed.
              But in any way, that's not even what I meant by old ways. It's not social conservatism i was talking about but the way society is organized, familial bonds of loyalty, mix of personal and public interest in politics and self-interested voting, vs western European modern (post WW2) liberal atomization, ideological loyalties, soulless technocratic bureaucracy and the complete dominion of ideology over concepts like national interest, common good, etc, which are at the root of their virtue signaling

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Latin America is relatively more conservative than Anglo America and retards not versed in the region think that makes them ultra traditional. They're basically somewhere between Eastern and Western Europe in terms of their attitudes, not anywhere close to being super traditional.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Latin America inherited a semi-feudal pseudo aristocracy from the Spanish that was more in-line with the Middle Ages than the early modern. These families still run Latin-America even now, even the ones that use socialist rhetoric.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because these maps are usually made by germoids who (until recently in the case of the US) don't know shit about the region and assume it's just indians living in forests.
      But Latin America isn't real anyway, it was just french propaganda made up to justify their Mexican intervention.
      Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Bolivia and Haiti are not the same civilization. Haiti is closer to the likes of Jamaica, Argentina and Uruguay are just supplanted europoids with minimal native influence, the Spanish equivalent of the US and Canada, Mexico is a truly hybrid society, with significant indigenous influence, Bolivia is increasingly a native society with mestizos losing influence, closer to something like Angola or India (where most people are native but strongly influenced by Europe) than your typical Latin American country (which are settler states), while Brazil is completely isolated geographically and linguistically, with your average monkey knowing as much about Hispanic america as your average American or Canadian, i.e. memes and stereotypes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Latin America is a descendant of Classical Civilization much in the same way Orthodox Civilization is, while Western means "mixed Protestant and Catholic" not just Catholic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Mixed protestant and catholic
        Literally Latin America then. Most countries there have a large protestant minority now, with some having more protestants than Catholics.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dude Latin America's always had a Protestant minority and Protestant churches have recently been exploding there, there are multiple countries in Latin America now where Protestants are either a majority or near-majority.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you get a seat on the racism council, but you are denied the title of white

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      because that map was made for an american, that's why he thinks than a mexican, a bolivian and an uruguayan have the same culture

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They do tho
        In the great scheme of things

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bastard children of the west. Hence the separate category from the dominions and europe.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Orthodox World
    >Latin America
    >Japan
    >Ethiopia
    >Buddhist Sri Lanka
    >Buddhists in the Black Sea
    >Sinic Korea
    >Sinic New Guinea
    >Muslim Indonesia
    >Muslim Seychelles
    And, oh yeah
    >~~*ISRAEL*~~
    >WESTERN CHRISTENDOM
    Seriously, what the fuck is this? Wiki-brain? Bait? Nobody takes this seriously, right?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Latin American, Orthodox and Christian sub-Saharan Africa spheres are all Western. All those are at best subdivisions of the greater Western sphere

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Orthodox Europe integrates with the West almost immediately whenever the barriers come down between the two, I feel like the divide there is artificial.
      Latin America is literally just "What if the West was poorer and more brown". I don't even count them separately.
      I'm torn on SSA, on the one hand they have a shitload of Western influence, on the other hand a ton of native influence is still there. Governments are moving more towards promoting the Western line of things for the sake of national cohesion though so maybe they're Wesernizing? Kind of an oddball case.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >China, Korea Sinic
    >but not Japan
    Civilisation = 😐
    Civilisation, Japan = :0

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >israel as part of western christendom
    you can even smelkl the grease fat american hands who made that map

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >relogion=civilization
    Honestly, it's one of the shittest concepts in modern humanities.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No it isn't. You don't even have to be religious to admit that. It's a perfectly valid concept. Religion is fundamental to civilization so it is logical that a certain type of religion will adapt to and/or generate a certain type of civilization.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Religion is fundamental to civilization
        So-o-o, Constantine created new civilization? Seriously?
        Soviets/maoists created new civlizations too?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If japan isn’t a part of sinitic civilization, nobody is

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ethiopia is a special snowflake but Eritrea isn’t
    >Japan is a special snowflake
    >Mongols and Indochinks are the same cuz Buddhism despite widely different material culture and Buddhist denominations
    >Indonesians, Albanians, and Kazakhs are the same because Islam
    >Nepal is India 2.0 despite being extremely Buddhist but Bhutan isn’t
    >Latin America isn’t the most Catholic region on earth
    >Greece and Belarus having anything in common whatsoever
    >Sub-Saharan Africa isn’t divided at all by religion or culture

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nepal isn't Buddhist

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely brazen how Whatifalthist copies this shit 1:1 and makes a 30-minute video on each

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Could Mongolia and Tibet be part of the same "civilization"?
    Read me out. They share the same sect of Buddhism, and they're both (semi) nomadic. The main difference is the terrain.
    I don't know, I could be wrong.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, if you consider them the same on basis of religion then Mongols are completely different civilization pre 16th century before Altan Khan forced shamanists to be Buddhists. Only ruling Emperors patronized Buddhists before that, not commoners.

      Mongol script is also different, their architecture is from China etc.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So? Tibetans are Shamanic too

        They both believe in Tengris like Gesar Khan

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tibetan Buddhist Lamas brutally persecuted Mongol Tengrist shamans.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. They both even has the same system of government with lamas ruling their countries as the only non-hierarchical lifelong monarchs ever, basically sortition monarchy

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paraguay is more conservative than any country in Europe.
    European "conservatives" are just 90s liberals at best.
    The only countries that come close to having socially conservative people are Poland, Ulster and (to a way lesser degree) Hungary.
    They're more nationalist and woke, sure, but only when it comes to immigration and the most radical homosexualry
    Peruvian commies are more trad than European reactionaries. Fuck, most progressives in Latin America are anti-liberal socialists who suck Stalin's dick while being woke.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Madegascar is closer to SEA cultures then African cultures

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. Especially when both mixed a lot and Madagascan coastal cultures had more exposure to both African and Indian ocean cultures.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Armenia and Ethiopia are both Oriental Orthodox. Armenia is not Eastern Orthodox.

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