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Celtiberian thread
Any good books on these guys?
theres not much but ruins and artifacts they were a weak celtic race that was invaded and wiped out by both carthage and rome
both carthage and rome adopted their style of war though
A celts idea of victory is when the people who murdered them use their stuff lmao
who hurted you, anon
what culture is still around in the world?
certainly not the celts lmfao
holy cope, pure celts are still around as is their languages and religion unlike the romans whose descendants are all mutts and moor rape babies
>pure celts
cope
I actually live in a "celtic" nation unless its the football team of the same name nobody cares about your celtic larp cringe.
sure you do moor rape baby
>2
>PROOOOOOOH :DDDDDDD
those swords are Greek style, right? I know they had them in Iberia, but was it from Greek or Phoenician influence?
Leaf-bladed shortswords were common all over the Mediterranean and middle east since the middle bronze age anon
Yeah obviously, but what do you think , they all invented them at once, aliens brought them? For fuck's sake anon...
checked my google oracle, at first sight they don't seem to be phoenician.
Checked it again, they seem to be from greek origin. Or at least the same used by greeks.
They're rather similar to the swords originally used by the Caucasus kingdoms. They likely long predate Greek influence and go back to the Helleno-Armenians.
Unironically the caucasus kingdoms were also called Iberia. Maybe it's not fun to hear but it's true anons
fun to play in europa barbarorum 2
Celtiberian Cataphracts
Vasci shock spearmen
why did vascones attack roland? what the fuck was their problem?
They've always been gigaspergs
The oldest swords in the world look rather similar to a Gladius Hispanicus. Also like the master sword. They go back to the kingdom of Colchis or whatever.
But yes, the Greek Xiphos does seem identical to the Iberian Falcata.
the xiphos was leaf balde shaped, you`re talking about the kopis or makheira
Yes thank you for the correction, I was very tired when I posted that. The Kopis/Machaira look like the Falcata.
>look rather similar to a Gladius Hispanicus.
They look absolutely nothing like them.They are competely the the wrong size and length and are constructed completely differently.Unless you've decided that anything long sharp and pointy looks all the same they really dont.
Well the handle and pommel are integrated in the bronze age designs. Obviously this changes later on.
An integrated grip and pommel is not necessarily a worse design, although a tang sword would help conserve material.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanjali
Their later swords look the same too.
Yeah their italic bronze age blades looked pretty similar
I want to talk about it but the thing is I don't actually know shit besides browsing swords from different IE cultures.
There's some kind of proto IE sword many swords are derived from, anyone care to shed some light on this? Include the Celtic Sowords in there if you can just to keep it on topic with the thread.
>proto IE
what?
Yeah the Scythian shortsword.
Did bell beakers had a similar sword? Or Post Corded Ware migrations to the west?
According to Scythians themselves, or at least what they told or was told to Herodotus about them they exist aprox since the first millenia BC or so. Something tells me this sword would predate even that. But off course I don't know.
I already posted the proto swords forged by the Helleno-Armenians.
It is indeed very similar. Iirc, the swords used by scythians were very short though, which is weird, almost as if they didn't use it while mounted or used it in a very specific way that I can't imagine. Something super metal is the scythian war pikes, now that shit's metal, skull piercer 420 noscope
A curved Akinakes and a Falcata
Yep these are very different to the ones I'm talking about. They're very similar to the Greek ones however. I'm talking about the stereotypical Celtic sword that many celts used also similar to the one many IE cultures used.
You mistake your inability to distinguish short swords.With them having a shared cultural orgin.
I've been on threads with people well versed on ancient swords, and there were peopke with your exact opinion. They got BTFO'd severely. I'm not well versed in this subject. Maybe ask an expert ;^)
>I'm not well versed in this subject.
I noticed.
Yeah, I also noticed someone with your exact opinion getting BTFO'd by people that actually know about ancient swords ;^)
Ask an expert sweety.
Okay I wont ask you.
Oh shit we have sherlock in here, but the downie verssion, kek.
Anon I'm not sure what you're talking about. Try to figure out the details you can't remember and get back to us. Also here's a picture of some Nordic Bronze Age scimitars.
These are beautiful.
Hittites used something similar too iirc. But why are you posting these those arent celtic or iberian.
The Nordic swords are more advanced
top kek
It is, but they probably didn't have them before corded ware
Yeah the Atlantean shortsword.
>Xiphos
Is the guy from the right Ronaldinho?
The island skirmishers were the real chads in my opinion.
Then again, the Celtiberi were wiped out
The Romans probably would not have spared them even if they surrendered.
my ancestors 🙂
Pirates sailing out of Swansea and Cardiff taking women from Spanish colonies unironically.
based pirate ancestors
In celtic folklore raiders are a common theme, I found it super cool