Can the afro asiatic world be initiated to pagan spirituality?

Europeans have this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_folk_beliefs#History
Iranics have this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assianism
Turkics have this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tengrist_movements
Bantus have this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_mythology
Sino-tibetans have this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_folk_religion
Indians have this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism

Now these are all original, authentic traditions, so they all have access to non-dogmatism which can adapt and evolve to fluctuating culture, but what about afro asiatics? Sure culturally speaking its nice to have a monopoly on spirituality, but beyond that, what else is there to work with really? I've read about the berber religion being still be around, but I'm not sure how authentic these claims are, or how complete that particular tradition is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Berber_religion

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We know a fair bit about ancient Egyptians and early Semites, but already by that time their religions were so different that there's really no point in classifying them as the same thing. There could be a Semitic Pagan revival, but not an Afro-Asiatic Pagan revival. It's too far back.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not talking about a revival, I'm talking about living, breathing traditions: rural albanians are swearing oaths to zoyzat to this day, everything I've listed has uninterrupted continuity

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >rural albanians are swearing oaths to zoyzat to this day, everything I've listed has uninterrupted continuity

        It's monotheism with some angels/emanations, and some quirky countryside traditions.

        Don't know why your western asses think you can build le epic pagan revival off people bringing a bear costume to sing Christmas carols, aad some folk beliefs about God.

        t. balkaner

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No youre just uneducated on the topic, theres a lot of literature about it and its way deeper than that, there are hundreds and hundreds of recorded oral traditions that testify to this, written down its twice the size of the bible, and scholastic commentaries are even more extensive than that, you should really look into it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, i know it has a surprising amount of deepness, but it's just anthropology.

            It's cool af, but as

            Itherther and his.... Very weird and somewhat unsettling story is in fact a very small part of Berber mythology. It's basically about how cows became subservient to man.
            To explain it to you, no, nobody actually called himself a pagan. These beliefs just survived as folklore, although Kabyles did practice some paganistic rituals (like rain dances to the god Anzar) they were muslim and they saw these as nothing but folklore and superstitions. It didn't survive as a religion.
            If you want to learn more on this surviving folklore go read the article i sent you (use google autotranslate if needed)

            says, we don't consider ourselves thracians because people born with cawls were considered magical, or steppehomosexuals because some horse blessing ceremony still exists somwhere.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            meant thracian polytheists and tengrist steppehomosexuals.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            meant thracian polytheists and tengrist steppehomosexuals.

            You could have a lot of fun with it if you knew a thing or two about metaphysics, just sayin... youre in a pretty fortunate position, you should consider yourself lucky

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You could have a lot of fun with it if you knew a thing or two about metaphysics

            Oh, the symbolism is fascinating.

            But i'm not building a fricking belief system out of the fact that mirrors are covered at a funeral and single women put basil under the pillow during a certain night and whatnot, even if that's followed religiously.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe thats what its like in slavic countries or in romania but in albania its already a complete religion with a canonic law, parables, prayers etc., not a joke

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Can you provide a link to this book.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >LE EVIL WESTERNERS
          Seethe fricking eastoid sissy troony

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm not talking about a revival, I'm talking about living, breathing traditions
        Here is an interesting article on surviving Kabyle folk beliefs, although it's in French, but they don't include much on actual deities of ancient Berbers because obviously politheistic beliefs were erased. Ancient gods can only be tracked back from ancient sources (with a few exceptions who still persist somehwat like Settut and Anzar).
        http://tadukli.free.fr/pages/culture/histoire_01_elements_de_mythologie_kabyle.htm

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They are already are. Islam is the ethnic religion of the Arabs and Judaism is the ethnic religion of the israelites, and there are living Cushitic and Chadic pagans rn.

    Although North African paganism is dead, Ancient Egyptians have left us several complete daily offering rituals (P. Berlin 3055, Berlin 3014 & 3053) as well as various secret rituals such as the "Felling of Seth" (P. BM 10252) and the "Overthrowing of Apophis" (Bremmer-Rhind) so it could be revived by anyone with enough will and wealth.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it could be revived by anyone with enough will and wealth
      It'll never be popular religion again, but it's alive in esoteric tradition. Not kemetism though, that shit is cringe beyond cringe.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, resurrecting an intellectual Atenism movement with all the glory of Ancient Egypt would be pretty based.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The Heresy is possibly the worst thing to have ever happened to humanity, get that shit right out of here

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Atenism
          Spiritual poison

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wish there was a synchronism between natural religion (pagan spirituality) and all sects/branches of Christianity except fricking Mormons and etc and that we converge as a single people. I also wish that this single people is redpilled on race and the JQ.

    It's not too much to ask for. Think about it.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >berber religion still around
    No

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >do larpagans really
    this cope only works if your society abandoned its religion and is in the middle of a societal collapse, islam is still in full force so what need would larpaganism fulfill?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >this cope only works if your society abandoned its religion and is in the middle of a societal collapse
      Yea thats definitely not happening

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The English Wikipedia article on Berber religions is shit. There are hundreds of Berber mythical beings, gods, and belief systems not mentioned.
    Ancient deities like Sinifer or the various Dii Maurii known from Roman-era inscriptions (Macurgam, Matilam, Iunam, etc.) not even mentioned in it, and modern still surviving knowledge on Berber deities and folk beliefs such as Anzar, Settut, Teryel, Iassasen, waghzniwen etc. (these are part of Kabyle mythology) are completely left out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think the berber religion is still alive? Where could one learn about it? This article here implies its still around
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itherther

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Itherther and his.... Very weird and somewhat unsettling story is in fact a very small part of Berber mythology. It's basically about how cows became subservient to man.
        To explain it to you, no, nobody actually called himself a pagan. These beliefs just survived as folklore, although Kabyles did practice some paganistic rituals (like rain dances to the god Anzar) they were muslim and they saw these as nothing but folklore and superstitions. It didn't survive as a religion.
        If you want to learn more on this surviving folklore go read the article i sent you (use google autotranslate if needed)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The English Wikipedia article on Berber religions is shit.
      Welcome to western knowledge on any fricking African faith (yes even the Orthodox churches too). good luck trying to tell people that many traditional African faiths were in fact monotheistic or don't have devil figure/analogue.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They probablt had evil spirits anyway. Once read a relatively short article on some subse of west african magic that dealt with things possesed of bad energy or something similar slowly moving towards their targets inanimately until they kill them.
        Really interesting honestly.
        Don't remember where now. Frick.
        But sorry, you seem knowledgable in this.
        Is what I said accurate to any culture in west africa roughly. Still kino as frick and I will be stealing the idea whatever the veracity.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why use Assianism for Iranics when Zoroastrianism exists and theologically anyone can concert to it?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because OP is a larping osset gay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Zoroastrianism is dogmatic and not heterodox, youre too stupid to understand my motives

      because OP is a larping osset gay

      I wish

      Can you provide a link to this book.

      Theyre listed in the wiki link

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