I have no problem acknowledging hermaphrodites. In fact I think that the gender reassignment performed on them is gruesome, especially the dilation. We should let them be who they are, help them accept themselves, and if they wish to get cosmetic surgery once they are older I fully support that as well.
I don't see how this means I should join in the delusion of men who claim to nbe women, or women who claim to be men.
Or to relate to your shitty analogy:
No, Helium is not Hydrogen, even if it self-identifies as such, even if yet other elements exist.
Even if you are a hermaphrodite, you usually are still in most ways physically one or the other. That being said, if they literally have the sex organs of both (which from my understanding neither are usually functional for reproductive purposes) then yeah, sure, choose one if you want and I will respect your decision. Anything else I'll call you by whatever is supposed to be in your pants
No person has ever been born a true hermaphrodite with gametes of both sexes. All intersex people are male or female. Men and women can have the same intersex disorder and sex matters because it affects the progress of the disease.
Different elements fundamentally change molecules. He still has XY chromosomes in every cell of his body. Tell him to kill himself and hope he re-rolls as a bitch.
There is no such thing as a third or forth gender, no-one can explain what would even comprise such a thing. The fact is that there are two categories of behavior and two sexes - male and female. We do not categorize people based on what specific male and female behaviors they happen to display, we categorize them based on the predominant flavor of behavior they display.
The “gender spectrum” is completely artificial, just like the “elements” high up on the periodic table that decay instantly upon being “created”.
>There is no such thing as a third or forth gender, no-one can explain what would even comprise such a thing.
There's no such thing as a male or female gender, no-one can explain what would even comprise such a thing.
>The “gender spectrum” is completely artificial
Gender is artificial so you can make up the rules wherever you want
gender is made up but when i call you the "wrong one" you get upset? Don't you like being called "a fucking nagger"? It's a gender I just made up that you have to respect me calling you or else you're a bigot
If you aren't just posting this for the sake of letting anons know what these retards actually believe you should kys asap. Otherwise thanks for dragging this stupid bullshit out into the light.
Is her argument: "Look i found a thing that's not binary, therefore this other completely non related thing is obviously not binary as well... And im going to say it really sarcasticly signaling i think im very smart and you're very stupid for not realizing i found this non-binary thing once."
Cuz if it is i think we're in real trouble bros. We might have to quit the internet.
Fallacious argument.
That thing misinterpret one of our arguments into something that wouldn't apply, as is:
Sex (and gender) are binary, in which the common health trait (except defective people) is a penis or a vagina - so, binary.
About atoms, that thing comes up with a graph it probably made to pretend this is our argument. It's not, we know how atoms supposedly work and we know they're not only two. But I'll bite its bait in here: >atoms are binary >they are either intended to be hydrogen or helium
This is false by that abomination's own graph. Were it a binary logic, both elements would be closer to a 50/50 ratio, just like female/male, but I guess knowing how Mendel made his rules goes beyond their interest in Biology - especially if they know he was a Catholic friar.
Go read a book. A decent one, please, for your own good. >1PBTID
Yep, but it's always good to leave some replies like that for lurkers.
Her argument is literally i found a thing that's not binary, so other thing must not be binary as well, you're putting way to much effort into this bro.
No one is saying that there are 2 sexes because male and female sex are most frequent, they're saying there are 2 sexes because there ARE two sexes, everything else is a useless deformity. Humans have two legs even if some people are born with a useless "third one" which they can't use for walking.
Likewise, people can only have male or female repeoductive organs, everything else is a degeneration/mutilation of those
>Reproduction is a sperm fertilizing an egg >2 things needed from two different people >People who produce sperm are Male >People who produce eggs are Female
That is it, there are no other sexes. Genetic freaks still just have a combo of traits from this binary system.
Pangea broke up and is no longer contiguous. In order for a man to become a woman, you’d have to go back in time, reverse all the in utero hormone surges and rewrite every somatic cell in his body.
Genders arent atoms and the guy who coined the idea that gender was different from sex traumatized a child to the point of causing him to commit suicide. This is the data he used to call his experiment a success. The outcome was suicide, and he said it was a success. Think about that for a second. John Money was an abhorrent evil demon, and gender ideology is his cult.
Atoms aren't binary by design (obviously) therefore it's a stupid analogy
Human sex is binary (obviously) and intersex people are an anomaly and not a deliberate part of the design (evolutionary, metaphysical or otherwise). The existence of people with chromosomes that are not XX or XY doesn't refute the claim that humans are either male or female, it actually strengthens it, since these people are very often physically infertile and otherwise still genetic dead-ends.
Sex doesn’t even come from chromosomes. Or, rather, it’s a developmental pathway and chromosomes are the most classic indicator. The chromosomes aren’t the sex in itself.
And intersex people are all male and female. The issue is that they have a deformity.
Sex actually is binary. It is a developmental path that humans have to go down or we die. There is no third sex. There is only male and female. No human has ever possessed both gametes - and even if they did, that wouldn’t mean there are three gamete types. Intersex people are easily sorted into sexed categories. Men and women can have the same intersex disorder (ex. Androgen insensitivity) but it will have different results based on their natal sex. There is no third option. There is not spectrum. Male and female. Every single sexually reproductive system follows this since time immemorial. Since before our species.
Elements, on the other hand, aren’t binary. A gold atom isn’t a helium atom. We don’t say male and female are the sex binary because they’re the most common, we say that because they’re the only options. Elements, by their nature, are vastly more numerous.
Elements also develop and spawn from each other. You start with helium and hydrogen but subsequent events can transform them into new elements. Male and female didn’t create one another. They are both two parts of sexual reproduction system that developed wholesale.
Jesus fucking Christ. Trannies are such insufferable liars and pseudo-scientific arrogant midwits. I want all of them to have the symbol of Mara branded on their face.
it's just a stupid false equivalence. i bet reddit would that shit up though because of the "i'm a genius because i know what the periodic table looks like" angle
We call this form of faulty argumentation: "false equivalence."
It takes the symbolic form:
A => B therefore C => D
It is a false equivalence because there is no established relationship between A/C and B/D, therefore a relationship between A & B affords us no ability to draw conclusions about C & D.
There is DISTINCT structure to the atoms, in the same way there is a DISTINCT ASSOCIATED structure with biology that mirrors with every other life form vast majority of the time, the ones where they have 2 sexes. The transexuals at best have altered brain chemistry/hormonal activity but that's it.
I find it amusing when leftoids try to use categorization when it pleases them, but it's not allowed whenever they don't like it. Think race in particular. If you say naggers have an average IQ of 70, they love to get their heckles up and say that they happen to know a very smart nagger, so that doesn't count.
>her
Discarded.
yeah. im not a fucking gas. i dont float like a fucking balloon you dumb nagger
Schrodinger's argument
>Her
Why would you listen to a woman?
>Him
Why would you listen to a man with a tranny flag in his profile?
Anything else is gaslighting
What argument?
why do women suck at sports?
Men's bodies are designed for sports. That's why women have their own chess league.
So bisexual don't exist? Bigot
I have no problem acknowledging hermaphrodites. In fact I think that the gender reassignment performed on them is gruesome, especially the dilation. We should let them be who they are, help them accept themselves, and if they wish to get cosmetic surgery once they are older I fully support that as well.
I don't see how this means I should join in the delusion of men who claim to nbe women, or women who claim to be men.
Or to relate to your shitty analogy:
No, Helium is not Hydrogen, even if it self-identifies as such, even if yet other elements exist.
Even if you are a hermaphrodite, you usually are still in most ways physically one or the other. That being said, if they literally have the sex organs of both (which from my understanding neither are usually functional for reproductive purposes) then yeah, sure, choose one if you want and I will respect your decision. Anything else I'll call you by whatever is supposed to be in your pants
No person has ever been born a true hermaphrodite with gametes of both sexes. All intersex people are male or female. Men and women can have the same intersex disorder and sex matters because it affects the progress of the disease.
There are no true human hermaphrodites. The treatment done on them gives them a chance at having functional genitalia in life.
Different elements fundamentally change molecules. He still has XY chromosomes in every cell of his body. Tell him to kill himself and hope he re-rolls as a bitch.
You see, when two hydrogens become a helium, they are identical to all other helium (this extends to all other transmutations).
When you chop off your genitals, you're just a eunuch.
Should parents be allowed to encourage their children to join a castrate choir?
are all trannies singing in choirs?
Excellent response.
Atoms are not people, kys together with the shitter poster.
Hydrogen has three naturally occurring isotopes. The first two are stable, the third kills itself within 12 years.
People are not atoms.
What this mental disease that equates metaphors with real things?
>Can /misc/ refute her argument?
Most of the matter in the universe actually seems to be Dark Matter.
This is actually a correct way for Hydrogen and Helium atoms to describe their universe.
Yes.
Atoms don't exist.
There is no such thing as a third or forth gender, no-one can explain what would even comprise such a thing. The fact is that there are two categories of behavior and two sexes - male and female. We do not categorize people based on what specific male and female behaviors they happen to display, we categorize them based on the predominant flavor of behavior they display.
The “gender spectrum” is completely artificial, just like the “elements” high up on the periodic table that decay instantly upon being “created”.
This
Gender is different to sex but it's not whatever pedo money says. It's very much on the background of biology.
Also, are you saying the elements that decay very quickly aren't real? Uhhh...?
>There is no such thing as a third or forth gender, no-one can explain what would even comprise such a thing.
There's no such thing as a male or female gender, no-one can explain what would even comprise such a thing.
>The “gender spectrum” is completely artificial
Gender is artificial so you can make up the rules wherever you want
gender is made up but when i call you the "wrong one" you get upset? Don't you like being called "a fucking nagger"? It's a gender I just made up that you have to respect me calling you or else you're a bigot
That gender would be a social sciences class, not biology.
If you aren't just posting this for the sake of letting anons know what these retards actually believe you should kys asap. Otherwise thanks for dragging this stupid bullshit out into the light.
it's not an argument. it's an idiotic analogy made my an idiot to be applauded by other idiots.
Is her argument: "Look i found a thing that's not binary, therefore this other completely non related thing is obviously not binary as well... And im going to say it really sarcasticly signaling i think im very smart and you're very stupid for not realizing i found this non-binary thing once."
Cuz if it is i think we're in real trouble bros. We might have to quit the internet.
Fallacious argument.
That thing misinterpret one of our arguments into something that wouldn't apply, as is:
Sex (and gender) are binary, in which the common health trait (except defective people) is a penis or a vagina - so, binary.
About atoms, that thing comes up with a graph it probably made to pretend this is our argument. It's not, we know how atoms supposedly work and we know they're not only two. But I'll bite its bait in here:
>atoms are binary
>they are either intended to be hydrogen or helium
This is false by that abomination's own graph. Were it a binary logic, both elements would be closer to a 50/50 ratio, just like female/male, but I guess knowing how Mendel made his rules goes beyond their interest in Biology - especially if they know he was a Catholic friar.
Go read a book. A decent one, please, for your own good.
>1PBTID
Yep, but it's always good to leave some replies like that for lurkers.
Her argument is literally i found a thing that's not binary, so other thing must not be binary as well, you're putting way to much effort into this bro.
Yup... Sometimes I get too carried away.
Anyway, fuck israelite, fuck their pet naggers, and fuck the abominations they're putting into our lands.
Imagine the smell.
This is the type of retardation born from letting women pretend play science.
It’s a man, you absolute retard.
I'm still not sure what this is trying to prove
No one is saying that there are 2 sexes because male and female sex are most frequent, they're saying there are 2 sexes because there ARE two sexes, everything else is a useless deformity. Humans have two legs even if some people are born with a useless "third one" which they can't use for walking.
Likewise, people can only have male or female repeoductive organs, everything else is a degeneration/mutilation of those
IT'S MA'AM
>Reproduction is a sperm fertilizing an egg
>2 things needed from two different people
>People who produce sperm are Male
>People who produce eggs are Female
That is it, there are no other sexes. Genetic freaks still just have a combo of traits from this binary system.
But what about hydrogen?
Hydrogen with additional neutron might be called Deuter but it is still hydrogen though.
Earth Mass moving over millions of years is practically a gender in my opinion.
Pangea broke up and is no longer contiguous. In order for a man to become a woman, you’d have to go back in time, reverse all the in utero hormone surges and rewrite every somatic cell in his body.
Genders arent atoms and the guy who coined the idea that gender was different from sex traumatized a child to the point of causing him to commit suicide. This is the data he used to call his experiment a success. The outcome was suicide, and he said it was a success. Think about that for a second. John Money was an abhorrent evil demon, and gender ideology is his cult.
Atoms aren't binary by design (obviously) therefore it's a stupid analogy
Human sex is binary (obviously) and intersex people are an anomaly and not a deliberate part of the design (evolutionary, metaphysical or otherwise). The existence of people with chromosomes that are not XX or XY doesn't refute the claim that humans are either male or female, it actually strengthens it, since these people are very often physically infertile and otherwise still genetic dead-ends.
Formation of every element was an accident.
1+3=4 so gender is non binary
Unless 4-2=2 in which case we are clearly back to being binary.
But then 2-1=1 and so its just all male now.
Im sleepy an my chromosomes are ZZZ
Sex doesn’t even come from chromosomes. Or, rather, it’s a developmental pathway and chromosomes are the most classic indicator. The chromosomes aren’t the sex in itself.
And intersex people are all male and female. The issue is that they have a deformity.
>anons itt actually replying to non-argument made by a hole
shameful
If my job was to make atoms happy I'd sure as shit focus on helium and hydrogen
There are three subatomic particles
No, actually. This is probably the best argument I’ve seen tbh
One of those things where the words and the picture really spell it out for you.
Good luck with your transition, homosexual.
This isn’t an argument.
Sex actually is binary. It is a developmental path that humans have to go down or we die. There is no third sex. There is only male and female. No human has ever possessed both gametes - and even if they did, that wouldn’t mean there are three gamete types. Intersex people are easily sorted into sexed categories. Men and women can have the same intersex disorder (ex. Androgen insensitivity) but it will have different results based on their natal sex. There is no third option. There is not spectrum. Male and female. Every single sexually reproductive system follows this since time immemorial. Since before our species.
Elements, on the other hand, aren’t binary. A gold atom isn’t a helium atom. We don’t say male and female are the sex binary because they’re the most common, we say that because they’re the only options. Elements, by their nature, are vastly more numerous.
Elements also develop and spawn from each other. You start with helium and hydrogen but subsequent events can transform them into new elements. Male and female didn’t create one another. They are both two parts of sexual reproduction system that developed wholesale.
Jesus fucking Christ. Trannies are such insufferable liars and pseudo-scientific arrogant midwits. I want all of them to have the symbol of Mara branded on their face.
i dont refute painful retarded arguments, the people proposing them are too retarded to ever understand why their argument is so fucking retarded
Atoms are 99% empty
Just like your head.
Trans people aren't useful, unlike atoms.
Atoms can be objectively observed. Gender ideology is completely subjective.
Fucking nonsense. Nothing outside of the Earth (it's flat) exist. Space is fake.
>the universe
Scientists making shit up, it's literally impossible to verify any ~~*theoretical physics*~~
i dont know about physics, I dont care about homosexuals and troons, just came to shit in this thread, thankyou thats all
it's just a stupid false equivalence. i bet reddit would that shit up though because of the "i'm a genius because i know what the periodic table looks like" angle
We call this form of faulty argumentation: "false equivalence."
It takes the symbolic form:
A => B therefore C => D
It is a false equivalence because there is no established relationship between A/C and B/D, therefore a relationship between A & B affords us no ability to draw conclusions about C & D.
Really simple, people arent atoms.
Adress your actual arguments rather than constantly engaging in bizzare narratives.
Yeah, it's even worse than a food analogy
Thats like comparing cars and planes because they both have wheels
Science(real): there are other atomic elements
Alchemy(magic): elements can be changed from one to another
>Alchemy(magic): elements can be changed from one to another
Thats just nuclear physics
Atoms can be Objectively defined in a way that can be proven.
If atoms changed properties based on what they were subjectively defined as this analogy would hold up.
It doesn't.
We can Objectively prove and element is lithium or carbon,oxygen or nitrogen.
You can't Objectively prove non binary genders exist because they are defined subjectively.
This. It struggles with distinctness and establishing boundaries of what the thing is and what the thing isn't.
It's too wishy washy the idea of "non-binary" when it comes to you know, the empirical study of biology.
There is DISTINCT structure to the atoms, in the same way there is a DISTINCT ASSOCIATED structure with biology that mirrors with every other life form vast majority of the time, the ones where they have 2 sexes. The transexuals at best have altered brain chemistry/hormonal activity but that's it.
It's perfectly fair to say that not everyone is a man or a woman because some people are intersex
He's a fucking idiot and so are you. If I was trans I'd kill myself based on knowing this is what estrogen does to the male brain alone
I find it amusing when leftoids try to use categorization when it pleases them, but it's not allowed whenever they don't like it. Think race in particular. If you say naggers have an average IQ of 70, they love to get their heckles up and say that they happen to know a very smart nagger, so that doesn't count.
I'm just not gonna engage in any conversation with mentally ill homosexual men who wear women's clothing.