60 thoughts on “Buying jeans for hundreds?

      • Anonymous says:

        >meme uses a picture of women’s levi’s 501’s
        hahhahahahahhahaha
        you’re making your own point. levi’s is such shit now. lvc too that’s why all the employees are leaving and starting their own brands.
        if you want a good pair of levi’s 501’s for a low price the cheapest and best place to get them is from TCB jeans, which is a japanese company stupid moron.

      • Anonymous says:

        these jeans cost exactly as much as 2 pairs of levi’s jeans and half as much as a pair of lvc jeans. they’re made by an autistic guy who sewed jeans for levi’s until he could afford to buy his own machines, and he now produces a far more accurate levi’s reproduction than even levi’s does, for half the price by hand.

      • Anonymous says:

        >japanese denim? i’d pay more
        >Denim, JAPAN!

        japan has all of america’s old looms so they’re still able to make vintage fabrics and small production runs of custom fabrics.

  1. Anonymous says:

    prices are that high because the cost of import fees and shipping are passed on to you when getting foreign made jeans, even if the company wants to pretend otherwise. you’re also paying for weird, experimental, or limited fabrics. if you just want decent quality jeans, you can find it much cheaper. even stuff made with japanese woven fabric. there are also proxy sellers who can japanese jeans for you for much cheaper if you really want it.

  2. Anonymous says:

    5-600 is extreme. What you posted is the most expensive I know and I don’t see anything go much over 300 I can think of. Assuming you’re talking US dollars and not Monopoly money or something. Anyways, for Japanese denim in general the advantage is a good source of material woven into a quality textile. Then onto the brands they are small operations under close scrutiny by their customer base that tends to put out quality garments and experiment more.

    • Anonymous says:

      Levi’s are around $75 and they’re not imported, they’re not made from as high quality of denim, and, arguably, they are constructed as well. Triple that price is high but not crazy. It’s in line with hecking free range eggs even.

      • Anonymous says:

        75 dollarinos is high for a hecking pair of pants. Especially in this day and age of mechanization and outsourcing. Half of the money you pay for a Levis jeans is for the brand name.

      • Anonymous says:

        >Levi’s are around $75 and they’re not imported
        What fantasy world do you live in? The majority of Levi’s are made in Pakistan and Vietnam. They make a very tiny amount of jeans domestically and they’re over $300. For their price mainline Levis are absolutely trash. Thin elastic blended cotton that falls apart within a year of regular wear. If you want cheap jeans that are made well Wrangler is the only option.

        • Anonymous says:

          I like Japanese denim. But there are Texas jeans and roundhouse jeans both are made in usa with American cotton and sell for under $100 a pair. Maybe even closer to $50 a pair. However, I notice an increase in quality when I moved to my naked and famous jeans and then again to my japan blue denim.

        • Anonymous says:

          Obviously I was talking about imported as in a consumer product from Japan, stupid, not third world manufacturing.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Should I pull the trigger? Japanese denim by a small local brand for 250 yurobucks. Or should I get a more tapered fit because I’ve been wearing only slim fit jeans for years.

    • Anonymous says:

      (OP)
      >what’s up with buying a single pair of jeans for up to 5-600 dollars?
      look at what the jeans are actually priced at in japan, and you will see the value.
      the prices you pay in usa, europe, etc are hugely inflated by your own government’s import tariffs.
      5-600 bucks isn’t a lot for a garment & selvedge jeans are more like 100-300 most cases especially if you use rakuten/proxy buy/go to japan/know someone. i think i paid 220 for picrel jeans in 2006, they’ve been worn easily 3-4000 times, i used to mix cement and dig stumps out of the ground with hand tools in them, and i haven’t even needed to do a single repair on them yet.. i think i got my money’s worth.

      that’s the way to go if you want value. jeans have enormous tariffs customs fees etc when imported from japan. the denim fabric itself doesn’t. companies that import the fabric to your country and sew them there are more economically competitive.

      • Anonymous says:

        >jeans have enormous tariffs customs fees etc when imported from japan
        You can get around this by ordering from sites like denimio, who declare your shipment a gift so you don’t have to pay the gubb’nmint. This is how I’ve bought all my japanese denim over the years. Sizing is hard at first, all you have to do is measure a cheapo pair that you already own and like the fit of.

  4. Anonymous says:

    It really just come down to them looking nicer and lasting longer. There is a point of diminishing returns that I would say starts at around $400. As far as top quality goes, even when paying more you’re not going to find anything nicer looking or better built than Iron Heart 21oz. Anything above that you’re paying for exotic fabrics or designer brand names.

  5. Anonymous says:

    got you street cred as a cool dude in 2011. people have moved on, nobody thinks raw denim is cool anymore. ageing dadbod millennials are the only ones still wearing that shit

  6. Anonymous says:

    Raw Japanese denim is just a hobby. That being said, if you’re already really interested in that stuff, you’re going to justify paying $300 for jeans. Guys will do this shit with any other hobby where they reach a point at which they start spending more money on it. You can get away with buying a pair of Levi’s or wranglers, but at the end of the day the Japanese do undeniably put more effort into making their denim and constructing the jeans. This doesn’t mean that they are necessarily more durable jeans as some people like to claim, but they are absolutely nicer and look way better once you stay dedicated to one pair and fully wear it in and fade it. On top of that, you’re going to eventually become much more attached to a pair of raw denim than you would any prefaded pair of polyester jeans. The cotton starts to soften and form to your body the more you wear it in and fades replicate your movements. They become YOUR jeans. So are jeans worth $300-$400? I’d say that if you’re wearing them every day and you start loving them more and more over time, then yeah

    • Anonymous says:

      I see multiple mentions of it being a hobby, makes sense, it’s just another "I’m better because I have this one" hobby for the majority of people who spend money on such things.

  7. Anonymous says:

    >what’s up with buying a single pair of jeans for up to 5-600 dollars?
    The jeans sell for that much because some people are willing to pay that much. I know that’s a boring answer, but it’s true

    >What’s the incentive?
    That will change depending on who’s buying, but I’d wager things like fabric quality/uniqueness, craftsmanship, and exclusivity are the big ones. The most I’ve ever spent on a pair of jeans was a little more than $300. It was worth it to me, since I wear them almost every single day.

    Let’s assume you buy a pair for $300 and wear them for 300 out of the 365 days in a year. That comes out to $1 per day. That’s significantly less than what a lot of people spend on their coffee every morning. The price-per-wear only goes down as you wear them more.

    >Any true benefits of this?
    I first got into selvedge denim, because it’s typically thicker and more heavyweight than "standard" department store jeans. I have a problem with cheap jeans, since I get crotch blowout in only like 6-8 months of wear. Whereas, my Tanuki x Oni jeans have held up really well after nearly two years of almost everyday wear. 100% cotton jeans just hold up better over time, in my experience. A lot of guys (including myself) also just like the fading process. Once a pair of raw denim jeans are faded, it’s unique to you body, unlike the cheap department store jeans that have pre-distressing.

    At the end of the day, if you’re not willing to spend more than like $25 on a pair of jeans, that’s fine.

      • Anonymous says:

        i really wanna get a lee rider jacket for my bday but i can’t decide between the wool blanket lined one or the unlined. and i can’t decide if i want to get a nicer tcb reproduction, or cheap out and get a chinese repro from red tornado and get some 501 repro jeans from tcb with the money i save.

  8. Anonymous says:

    I buy expensive clothing like Iron Heart jeans because I have a low value of myself and I think having these nice things improves my self-value (it doesn’t)

  9. Anonymous says:

    >and get some 501 repro jeans from tcb with the money i save.
    or some overalls.
    should i wear overalls every single day for next year’s denim tuxedo?

  10. Anonymous says:

    One time I asked a guy where he got his denim jacket from. He told me it was really expensive and I probably couldn’t afford it. The guy was like 5’4, super chinky, and had a topknot.

  11. Anonymous says:

    As a person who has been into raw denims for 15 years….you’re mostly paying for niche and a sense of exclusivity.

    Standard Levi 501s are fine in terms of quality and will last for years. Most people who get into the expensive denim sit at a desk 99% of the time.

    I guarantee you that construction workers and laborors who wear jeans don’t spend hundreds of dollars on theirs and whatever brand they wear often lasts a fair amount of abuse.

    Even if a pair of $30 jeans had all the "features" and materials of a $300 pair, the denim heads would still find a reason to spend $300 on a pair just for the sake of it because they have the disposable income to do so. And there is nothing wrong with that really. Just stfu about them being anything more special than being simply a pair of pants

    • Anonymous says:

      >Most people who get into the expensive denim sit at a desk 99% of the time.

      >I guarantee you that construction workers and laborors who wear jeans don’t spend hundreds of dollars on theirs and whatever brand they wear often lasts a fair amount of abuse.

      This is only partly accurate. I live in an area that has a large amount of blue collar workers and I regularly see expensive denim being worn by tradies. Expensive denim lasts longer and when you’re working in an job that beats up your clothes, it makes sense to spend more money on something more durable. Id say the other 50% of the time I see someone wearing selvedge denim are basedboy office workers who have beards and wear flannels.

      • Anonymous says:

        i send to many Black folk to blueowl and self edge in the pnw. i don’t even like talking about pants irl i think its an awkward topic. they see them and ask.

    • Anonymous says:

      its mostly just because they don’t sell jap jeans in the kinds of brick and mortar stores they buy their clothes from. especially now days with mainline carhartt’s quality going in the shitter and tradies noticing it i’m pretty positive it’d be easy to sell $100-150 selvedge if you put it next to the carhartts on the rack. wait i know it would, cause i get asked about my jeans all the time on jobs then notice the guys who asked me are sporting n&fs a month later all the time. the utility aspect of good jeans is clearly recognized hence carhartt duck pants and wranglers+sub-brands being so ubiquitous. its really just a matter of most tradies not knowing a better option exists, and being fat.

  12. Anonymous says:

    tradies see their clothes like a tool. you give them a better tool they’ll probably buy it even if its really expensive. that’s how snap on stayed in business after their patents expired.

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