Buddhism is the best religion because its aim is to liberate creatures rather than chain them to deities or abject materialism

Buddhism is the best religion because its aim is to liberate creatures rather than chain them to deities or abject materialism

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you cant address divinity if its not derived from, or addressed to, the physis, buddhism, and other dharmaic organized religions fail to fulfill this requirement because they started to counteract west-eurasian hellenistic philosophy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that doesn't make any sense

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ontology of buddhism is extremely interesting but its moralitt is ehh, less so

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If there is no soul what gets reincarnated?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one gets reincarnated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A stream of mental states streams from life to life, the same thing that is from moment to moment happening. Reincarnation is fundamentally not the truth, rebirth is.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry that's what I was meaning, rebirth?

        What gets rebirthed?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nta but
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prat%C4%ABtyasamutp%C4%81da

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So there is no free will?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing gets reborn, theres only an uninterrupted series of mental states and sense impressions. There is no discontinuity or transmigration, nor is there any "thing" going from body to body. Its identical to whats "going" from moment to moment, whats going to sleep at night and waking up in the morning.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So it's ontological materialism?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, how did you come to that conclusion? Are you deliberately trying to misunderstand?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just trying to understand. I keep getting contradicting answers from different Buddhists.

                The doctrine of anatman (Sanskrit; anatta in Pali) is the core teaching of Buddhism. According to this doctrine, there is no "self" in the sense of a permanent, integral, autonomous being within an individual existence. What we think of as our self, the "me" that inhabits our body, is just an ephemeral experience.

                Thus if your experience of self only arises from material causality, then it's ontological materialism and there is no free will?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is free will, it is the buddha-dhatu, or otherwise, the nature within that is the foundation of buddhahood, removed from conditioned existence. Therefore, it is wrong to say there is no free will, but it is correct to say that real free will is not present in conditioned existence.

                In mundane, provisional existence, there still is the ability to make choices, hence why karma exists.

                Thirdly, in order for will to not be free, some "thing" must determine it. But since no "things" as such exist, the question of "free will" is often malformed. Nothing determines anything. In this way, everything is "no-will", not free will or determinism.

                If there WERE an atman, then surely determinism must be true, as a Real Self can only obey its own Real Nature.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nothing determines anything. In this way, everything is "no-will", not free will or determinism

                Can you please elaborate on nothing determines anything?

                Could you address my question regarding self as an ephemeral phenomena arising from material causality?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Could you address my question regarding self as an ephemeral phenomena arising from material causality?

                Material causality and the provisional self, or the "everyday self" are the same. This is why there cannot be any will OR determinism.
                Neither material nor self are anymore reified than the other, neither have a real self in them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What is the non-material self that you refer to?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never referred to any "non-material self" because no self can be found in anything, material or immaterial. You're trying to squeeze it into a dualistic mode. What are your own beliefs here, because clearly you are questioning from a position.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok but there is an immaterial realm? What exactly is that?

                Well, the book I read that was given to me by a Theravada Buddhist is where all my questions come from, after reading I concluded it's ontologically materialistic, among over things, but when I asked others they seemed to disagree and even have different views from the author of the book.

                I'm lookinf for ultimate truth of reality, I care not about managing my suffering etc. Is my desire for truth causing me suffering?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The entire point of Buddhism is to only care about yourself and nothing else so you can escape the cycle. It is the most self-centered religion I know of.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thervada maybe(not really though.) Mahayana is all about postponing buddhahood so that you can save as many as possible from life and death.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    until you get on the path and become attached to being on the path.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what is the parable of the raft

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is a great 1h video on on all the topics people have been discussing here by a Theravada monk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuAcXuxFXf4

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buddhism is the best religion because its aim is to liberate creatures rather than chain them to deities or abject materialism

    >YOUR PARTICULAR BUDDHIST TEACHINGS ARE WRONG AND YOU MUST DIIEEEEEE BTW IM JUST DEFENDING MYSELF.
    t. Warring Tibetan Monasteries
    t. Jap Warrior Monks
    t. Thai Buddhist State-Clergy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mynamar genocidal fundamnetalists.
      Mongolian steppe hordes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you resist me killing you/your family/your friends/your neighbors, then you're not a buddhist

      YIKES

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    christianity:
    >do this and live in paradise forever
    Buddhism:
    >do this and live in paradise forever

    could these con artists at least come up with somthing original? the religion brain worm must be purged.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buddhism
      >Do this and cease to exist

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks any thing "exists"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The world and people do exist, however the inner core of things don't exist, inner essence, inner soul, inner substance, that which is unchanging, has permanance, survives death, reincarnates, etc. That doesn't exist. People exist. Cars exists. The world exists. Just not the ghost inside the body.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how can I possibly be having a "thought" if things don't exist?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >being willfully ignorant
        https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.015.than.html

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least they don't worship a magic israelite so I'll give them that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but dude, he turned water into wine! he must like totally be the creator of the universe!

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >liberate creatures

    Yeah, nihilism is epic liberation lol.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buddhism is retarded, I am not a Buddhist, but here is how I see it:

    Rebirth is, essentially, the observation that as your supposed "self" is completely impermanent and irrelevant, and your experience is not tied to it or anything in particular, it does not end conditional to it. Your cells are constantly being regenerated, and after some years none of the substance of your body is as before, but experience was uninterrupted. You could lose all your memories through some medical event, and life would continue. There is no unchanging fixed property to your personality or existence, it is a chain of perceptions, and there is, apparently, no reason to suppose this chain is ever interrupted. I think that last point is a leap, but not indefensible in light of matter being mostly indestructible under most circumstances.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buddhism is delusional, you will either never escape the cycle of being or escaping it is trivial

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of Buddhist chains people to the false dogma of "no-self"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true, no-self is one of the views buddha rejected, not-self would be the correct one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly, the dogma-less true self from God is the real truth. Buddhists are worse than atheists, atleast atheists believe in a true self. How can Buddhist believe in dogma of no self? I don't understand.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like an awful lot of effort just to kill yourself.

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