Hi /x/
How can I break religious conditioning/brainwashing?
I’ve been dabbling in occult/esoteric practice for a few months now, and every time I get close to achieving what seems like it would have been a major breakthrough, I’m overcome with terror and will earnestly pray and repent in the heat of the moment because it’s been so ingrained in me that this stuff is evil and satanic. The next day after the fear has passed, I’m back at it again basically starting from square one.
Does this mean I’m not ready?
I designed a ritual to sever myself from the church forever but when I even think about carrying it out I feel sick to my stomach.
U can just force it lol
Alternatively you can basically just do exposure therapy
tl;dr: Learning about religions prosecution enacted by abrahamic religions, as well as where basically all things associated with satanism come from, then learning about satanism and engaging in media that either treats satanism properly or is not limited to the confines of satanism/christianity (like how something like touhou liberally uses western symbols, like th good ol pentagram)
Just like. Conditioning it out of yourself
Also talk more non christians lol
Tl;dr just desensitize urself
Or do things like 'talk' to th christian god and ask that its presence leave and that it takes the indoctrination with it
Also share ur creativity with us anon, tell us about th ritual and ur other spiirtual pursuits
I love it when eople move onto crafting their practice :3
The ritual is basically a re-working of the mideval Excommunication by anathema. I’d hold a candle, ring a bell, recite the words but modified since I’d be talking about myself. Then instead of dashing the candle onto the ground I’d use it to light a small pyre containing a bible, an effigy of Christ, and some small trinket which I would keep after (still undecided as to the exact object).
So a Christian ritual to cast yourself out and damn yourself plus no longer be welcome at Mass anywhere in Christendom. No wonder it fills you with fear, that's what it's meant to do! Image search picrel for a fun historical story. You need a new reality tunnel.
*talk to more
You can also partake in hypnosis/similar or w/e to force it out, placing the responsbility of actually enacting the process onto an external force so you just have to worry about sitting through it
Also, I'm sure communities exist specifically for aiding people through deconditioning from a childhood/life of traumatic relationship with abrahamic religions, like support groups for people who've sufferred from really evil christian parents or people who're in a cult
They may have resources 4 u
> You can also partake in hypnosis/similar or w/e to force it out, placing the responsbility of actually enacting the process onto an external force so you just have to worry about sitting through it
Idk if that’s helpful. Sounds like changing employers, I’m looking to freelance.
Chaos anon here. Satanism is still Christianity. Don't think you've escaped their cult if you're still stuck in their mythology. Satanists' syncretism is the worst, too; they literally can't admit they're worshipping a Christo-israeli egregore developed in the middle ages to genocide the gods of Europe by hoovering up their attributes and symbols.
Instead of trying to break tradition, view your exploration as a means to enhance what you already know. Study other religions, apocrypha, etc. These will help to expand your understanding of God, yourself, and reality.
You are not blaspheming, you are simply pulling back the curtain of your conditioning to expand your understanding.
Stop fearing Hell and persecution; you must live as you are. To falsify your own experience is to falter from the divine reality laid out before you.
Thanks anon, that’s good advice and strongly mirrors my practice up to this point.
It feels sort of like I’m a baby bird crouched at the edge of the nest and ready to fly, but unable to jump. The fear is primal and triggers a “fight or flight” response, which causes me to revert to my ingrained conditioned response of “Repent and call upon the name of the lord”.
I’ve also noticed that it gets harder to retread my steps each time it happens, it’s like whatever is out there is less willing to be helpful since each time they’re met with the spiritual equivalent of autistic screeching.
The further you get in your studies, the more you will realize that all of the religions and seekers are talking about the same thing, just through different perspectives. You are working to develop your perspective.
I think you might enjoy "Not in His Image" by John Lamb Lash. It delves into the beliefs of the old mystery schools and shines a light on how the Roman Catholic religion absorbed all of the mystery schools and crushed the old belief systems of the Western world, amalgamating them into their version of a single religion (for use to control the masses). It is extremely interesting and will help you comprehend how Christianity is nothing more than a means of control.
Thanks anon very helpful I will check that book out.
I used to enjoy Lash's critiques until he admitted he wants a Nazi-style "final solution" on the Christian Whistleblower livestream. Even his anti-israeli gnosticism is very israeli which is ironic but sad. Real gnosticism is a nice loading ramp into wider inclusions but you can become a "gnostic" fundamentalist like Lash and call for violence which is frankly way too far and just retarded. Better to read the Nag Hammadi Library for yourself and skip the culty gatekeepers, and this take right here is coming from someone who did JLL's V.V. ritual too (iykyk)
>and crushed the old belief systems of the Western world
Better to read Sylvia Federici's "Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation." Then to dive into the earlier layers, R.A. Fletcher's "The Barbarian Conversion: From Paganism to Christianity." The only way out is the way in...
(remember something. remember something. the tiem is now.)
Ask any religion for an actual proof of their deity, like photos, recordings, measurements, etc. All will fail to provide it. Break the conditioning with cold logic - there is no higher meaning or purpose to anything we do or are, the Universe just keeps on rolling and stuff inside it is spinning, etc. That's all there is to it (doesn't make life any more or less valuable, though).
*tips fedora
pussy
Lmfao, this board is even more filled with scientologist scum than the rest. Op is a homosexual and a brainwashed child
> Op is a homosexual and a brainwashed child
No shit buddy that’s literally why I made the thread
What's the beef? You never studied the history of the freezone or listened to the free lectures on ao-gp.org or read the tech bulletins on stss.nl so what are you talking about? Some sort of tabloid understanding of Miscavige's glowie op? Read the Dane Tops interview and THEN come back and tell me who the "scum" are
Read the Sutta Pitaka bro
It’s pretty easy to break away from the church. Once you see that it’s all a sham and a mockery of what christianity is supposed to be. Pews full of hypocrites and the ignorant tongues of lustful men fumble through the writings of an ancient faith that does not evolve at the speed of the wise and intelligent. It is an entanglement and an anchor to be shed.
use logic and reason and most religion falls apart.
Lol but then logic and reason ends so people go back to the fucked mess religion turned into while they were gone
Breaking religious conditioning is simply a matter of returning to your base desires through practice. Watch lots of porn, even if you find it disgusting. Jack off at least 3 times a day to said porn, even if you have to force yourself. Eventually you will remap your brain.
Sounds to me like you've already broke it.