It's a literal screen slider? What retard thought that was a good idea? I thought it may have been like drive, reverse, and neutral buttons on the screen, but that's the worst possible thing. A million issues could arise from this, let alone inconveniences.
Musk is trolling his fanbase and seeing how far he can push the envelope
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Or he's just a retarded conman and always has been. Hyperloop/robotaxi/starship/solarcity/fsd/mars2024/lav Vegas loop hoaxes and scam 1 after another.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What baffles me is how SpaceX actually *works*, and it’s not just a successful scam like Tesla, it actually delivers.
Idk maybe this one is his actual passion projects while other companies are there just for the purpose of making him money.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It doesn't deliver on anything. Starship is a failure he promised launches to other planets in the 20teens kek and that thing can't even make it to space without exploding. The only success they have is launching bullshit into orbit in a raptor rocket with government money. Space X is always on the verge of bankruptcy because they can't come within 7 years of a deadline.
>Shifting modes by swiping a small scroll bar on the left of the touchscreen
Lol
Lmao even
How absolutely sterile and soulless. Meanwhile I get to shift into each gear with a physical gear stick and feel the satisfying mechanical click with every gear change every time.
It's true. I've been living a lie. My internal combustion engine vehicle has a electric starter motor fed by a battery. My ICEV is actually a BEV also. Where can I collect my government rebates for saving the planet?
>spilling my large Diet Coke
Do amerifats really? How about you go on a fucking diet you lardass instead of drinking stuff that metabolizes into formaldehyde in your liver.
It’s both fatties fault and shitlas fault, many such cases.
>muh “HAES” >so morbidly obese you bump into the screen and go into reverse while driving cause you just HAD to eat your slop.
>Steering wheel with the top cut off
What even is the point of that cringe design other than decreasing costs as much as possible. You aren't in a plane. You aren't in a cramped race car. You're in a passenger car. I thought it was just Tesla doing it but now Toyota is doing it too.
Not sure why they did this for the RZ either. If it was the RC-F or LC-F it would make more sense. Lexus also had that LF-LC concept but nope they had to stick this steering “wheel” into an electric crossover
Cut steering wheels can be used as driver correction as it prevents you from creating too much steering angle at speed which is easy to do with the over powered/numb steering in cars
what the fuck?
All these modern cars use electric power steering. The ECU limits torque depending on speed so you don't send yourself flying at 60mph, but can still parallel park.
>Steering wheel with the top cut off
What even is the point of that cringe design other than decreasing costs as much as possible. You aren't in a plane. You aren't in a cramped race car. You're in a passenger car. I thought it was just Tesla doing it but now Toyota is doing it too.
The Lexus steering is actually drive by wire and adjusts the ratio based on what speed you're going. The Tesla's steering is a normal rack and turning it hand over is a fucking nighmare
I mean planes have been drive by wire for decades, and so has car throttle. I think some car brakes are drive-by-wire as well now
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You know those fly by wire systems cost millions of dollars per unit, right?
Avionics overall make up some 70% of a modern aircraft’s unit cost.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I will do it for cheaper.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sure will pal.
All aircraft components are crazy expensive. A basic bitch air cooled piston engine making less than 200HP in a Cessna can cost as much as a new 911 engine
Some 135 hp engine on the aircraft I’ve last worked on costs ca. $40k.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Some 135 hp engine on the aircraft I’ve last worked on costs ca. $40k.
Why are they so expensive? Ive wondered the same thing with outboard motors for boats which are also insanely expensive.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Every single component has to be certified by a governing body
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because the FAA is tired of shitter airplanes falling out of the sky and crashing into houses, so they want every single part checked and traceable and the insurance, etc. for all of that makes it expensive as fuck. They also don't want regular joe's flying, they want airspace for their private jets and commercial airlines, not Cessnas clogging up the flight pattern.
You really wouldn’t want a car engine in a plane.
Even car-esque engine.
Pic rel, a racing plane, used two Nissan racing car engines. Despite of the plane itself being very promising, it underperformed and in the end crashed, killing its pilot - all because the engines couldn’t take continuous high loads required in an aircraft.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"Pic rel" >no Pic rel
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh fuck I forgot the pic kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
More like normal cars need to unite against EV trannys and get them the fuck off this board and onto Elon's exploding rocket to space.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because the FAA is tired of shitter airplanes falling out of the sky and crashing into houses, so they want every single part checked and traceable and the insurance, etc. for all of that makes it expensive as fuck. They also don't want regular joe's flying, they want airspace for their private jets and commercial airlines, not Cessnas clogging up the flight pattern.
Idk about boats but for aircraft: >reliability
In a car if an engine fails, you just stop on the side of the road. You’ll be angry but there’s not much danger coming from it. In an aircraft it’s an emergency that might very well end up in an accident. >load
Car engines operate at a fraction of their maximum power for most of the time. In planes, you use much of the available power even in cruise. Takeoff and climb is just constantly squeezing every hip out of it; for takeoff specifically engine goes above its nominal power rating. See how this point combines with the first one. >operating conditions
Aircraft are subject to more varying (and more quickly) conditions than cars. >regulations
To guarantee first point is satisfied despite the following, there are very strict certification procedures.
for boats >reliability
yeah, you aren't going to sink if your fuel pump goes out but I don't know anyone that wants to be at the whims of the tide while they wait for rescue >load
same with a boat, 90% of use is at full rated power but for an arbitrary amount of time >operating conditions
constant salt water conditions will completely fuck the best designed marine products and most boats are subject to uncontrolled outdoor conditions their entire lifespan >regulations
actually fairly relaxed in boating, there's plenty of small cheap outboards out there that have a 2stroke exhaust straight into the water
personally I own a 70hp 2 stroke yamaha that's 20 years old and has only ever needed 1 set of plugs and a jug of oil
Makes sense. TY for the explanations.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because the FAA is tired of shitter airplanes falling out of the sky and crashing into houses, so they want every single part checked and traceable and the insurance, etc. for all of that makes it expensive as fuck. They also don't want regular joe's flying, they want airspace for their private jets and commercial airlines, not Cessnas clogging up the flight pattern.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>not Cessnas clogging up the flight pattern.
GA may be hard to get access to due to cost, but that is definitely not the case
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
[...]
You really wouldn’t want a car engine in a plane.
Even car-esque engine.
Pic rel, a racing plane, used two Nissan racing car engines. Despite of the plane itself being very promising, it underperformed and in the end crashed, killing its pilot - all because the engines couldn’t take continuous high loads required in an aircraft.
FAA is probably actually gay and cringe these days, but keep in mind 90% of GA airplanes is 4 to 6 cylinder, air-cooled, normally aspirated boxer engines with 6 litres or more displacement.
Probably 40% of those without fuel injection but carburetor instead. With manual mixture controls and manual priming.
Couple those engines with the magneto system that keeps the engines running even if you lose alternator and battery and you have a stupidly reliable system.
The irony is that the one contender of recent years is a "high-tech" fadec controlled turbodiesel that will shit the bed if you lose electric power. It even famously produced double-engine failures at low battery SoC as the landing gear motor pulled too much power during retraction.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
to make a slight addon: engines in planes are actually super cool because a supercharger makes a lot of sense as you go up into less dense air.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Idk about boats but for aircraft: >reliability
In a car if an engine fails, you just stop on the side of the road. You’ll be angry but there’s not much danger coming from it. In an aircraft it’s an emergency that might very well end up in an accident. >load
Car engines operate at a fraction of their maximum power for most of the time. In planes, you use much of the available power even in cruise. Takeoff and climb is just constantly squeezing every hip out of it; for takeoff specifically engine goes above its nominal power rating. See how this point combines with the first one. >operating conditions
Aircraft are subject to more varying (and more quickly) conditions than cars. >regulations
To guarantee first point is satisfied despite the following, there are very strict certification procedures.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
for boats >reliability
yeah, you aren't going to sink if your fuel pump goes out but I don't know anyone that wants to be at the whims of the tide while they wait for rescue >load
same with a boat, 90% of use is at full rated power but for an arbitrary amount of time >operating conditions
constant salt water conditions will completely fuck the best designed marine products and most boats are subject to uncontrolled outdoor conditions their entire lifespan >regulations
actually fairly relaxed in boating, there's plenty of small cheap outboards out there that have a 2stroke exhaust straight into the water
personally I own a 70hp 2 stroke yamaha that's 20 years old and has only ever needed 1 set of plugs and a jug of oil
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice to know.
So I guess except for regulations, we are in very much the same *boat*.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There is a basically tax for luxury items. Shit like boats, SxS, sports cars, etc. All cost well over what they should. Niche market, smaller volumes, less competition.
Also though boat engines, even though, their failure isn't necessarily as consequential, are still overbuilt compared to a car. Boats often run pretty much flat out for long periods of times. Offshore fishing boats often run flat out for an hour. Even a pretty hard run track car isn't pushed like that, there are throttle off seconds entering turns etc whereas the boat is just pegged running 70miles out to a fishing hole.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All aircraft components are crazy expensive. A basic bitch air cooled piston engine making less than 200HP in a Cessna can cost as much as a new 911 engine
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Planes do completely different things than cars.
Fly-by-wire only makes sense in planes because you can program the flight envelope to prevent the pilot from making inputs the computer doesn't want.
A car doesn't disintegrate itself if it goes too fast. It also doesn't fall out of the sky if it goes too slow.
Meanwhile the benefit of feel transducers is apparent in a plane because of the whole "flying" part. If you lose power steering you can just stop your car.
Coupled with mobile internet modems in your car and if you're lucky a SecOC secured CAN bus, you're basically 5 years away from 1337 hax0rs wrapping your car around a tree all the way from russia.
>Audi
The future is AIDS. My car gets more special by the year. I think the days of manufacturers producing good cars are over. We've hit the peak and if you want a good one these are the last years to get them before the industry gets the iphone treatment.
Hilarious reading boomers in this thread upset at new thing. I don't need to shift gears during 99% of my drive. Why the fuck should there be a dedicated stick or button for it?
From the EV owners I know up here in Vermont, you dont drive your EV in the winter. The range is depleted and the car runs horribly. Winters are for subaru driving up here.
>engorging myself with my third big mac for the day >accidentally spill my double extra large mega gulp bloatmaxx from 7-11 >swing my arm to try and catch it >load shift due to my massive arm causes me to lose traction >slam into the car next to me and cause an 18 car pileup >semi truck couldn't react in time and plows into the pileup, causing an explosion
FUCKING GAMESTOP
Touchscreen controls. That's a no-go. No matter what another EVtranny ever types on this board about the environment or some shitbox plaid 1/4 time the answer will be touchscreen controls. Pathetic. Retards. Ywnbaw.
>bumping my shifter with my elbow while eating my triple cheese burger and shifts the car into reverse
I fucking hate stupid people
What's the point of self driving cars if your hands aren't freed up?
America is all about the freedom after all.
It's like they don't know lockout buttons on the shift levers exist
>tw@ter
Ain't clickin' that shit nigga. Greentext or kys.
>they moved their equivalent of a shifter knob to the touchscreen
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS CAN'T BE TRUE
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It is, lol.
Jesus
It's a literal screen slider? What retard thought that was a good idea? I thought it may have been like drive, reverse, and neutral buttons on the screen, but that's the worst possible thing. A million issues could arise from this, let alone inconveniences.
Musk is trolling his fanbase and seeing how far he can push the envelope
Or he's just a retarded conman and always has been. Hyperloop/robotaxi/starship/solarcity/fsd/mars2024/lav Vegas loop hoaxes and scam 1 after another.
What baffles me is how SpaceX actually *works*, and it’s not just a successful scam like Tesla, it actually delivers.
Idk maybe this one is his actual passion projects while other companies are there just for the purpose of making him money.
It doesn't deliver on anything. Starship is a failure he promised launches to other planets in the 20teens kek and that thing can't even make it to space without exploding. The only success they have is launching bullshit into orbit in a raptor rocket with government money. Space X is always on the verge of bankruptcy because they can't come within 7 years of a deadline.
Grim.
The nissan leaf just has a little knob shaped joystick for shifting, was there some reason they couldn't have done that? This is just retarded.
Boomers aren't going to be able to use this car
>Shifting modes by swiping a small scroll bar on the left of the touchscreen
Lol
Lmao even
How absolutely sterile and soulless. Meanwhile I get to shift into each gear with a physical gear stick and feel the satisfying mechanical click with every gear change every time.
>he says this while using an electric starter to start the engine instead of hand cranking it.
It's true. I've been living a lie. My internal combustion engine vehicle has a electric starter motor fed by a battery. My ICEV is actually a BEV also. Where can I collect my government rebates for saving the planet?
It doesn't feel satisfying in most cars. It just feels like plastic.
*twists my Cheeto and cum stained bowtie*
UM… ACKTUALLY! This is the future of cars because my good man Elon is such a chad geniush!
How can I see replies on Tw*tter without an account?
LULZ gold pass works with twitter
wait till they add voice controls
>"TESLA, TURN RIGHT"
>"TESLA, TURN LEFT"
>tesla, turn off
>spilling my large Diet Coke
Do amerifats really? How about you go on a fucking diet you lardass instead of drinking stuff that metabolizes into formaldehyde in your liver.
It’s both fatties fault and shitlas fault, many such cases.
>muh “HAES”
>so morbidly obese you bump into the screen and go into reverse while driving cause you just HAD to eat your slop.
I fucking hate America jesus
pudding person is british
stop letting the USA live rent free in your head
This, nobody wants to ride in my car anymore because I will literally leave them on the side of the road if they try to eat anything in it.
Looking at this dude account, this dude is either the biggest Elon dicksucker or an elaborate troll.
Ergo, his opinion is invalid.
Lexus did the interior better. Less dull and the infotainment screen doesn’t stick out like an iPad. Too bad its in another shitty EV
>Steering wheel with the top cut off
What even is the point of that cringe design other than decreasing costs as much as possible. You aren't in a plane. You aren't in a cramped race car. You're in a passenger car. I thought it was just Tesla doing it but now Toyota is doing it too.
Not sure why they did this for the RZ either. If it was the RC-F or LC-F it would make more sense. Lexus also had that LF-LC concept but nope they had to stick this steering “wheel” into an electric crossover
Cut steering wheels can be used as driver correction as it prevents you from creating too much steering angle at speed which is easy to do with the over powered/numb steering in cars
Leaned this from a team at lemons.
what the fuck?
All these modern cars use electric power steering. The ECU limits torque depending on speed so you don't send yourself flying at 60mph, but can still parallel park.
The Lexus steering is actually drive by wire and adjusts the ratio based on what speed you're going. The Tesla's steering is a normal rack and turning it hand over is a fucking nighmare
>drive by wire
>normal rack and turning it hand over is a fucking nighmare
I don't even know which is worse
I mean planes have been drive by wire for decades, and so has car throttle. I think some car brakes are drive-by-wire as well now
You know those fly by wire systems cost millions of dollars per unit, right?
Avionics overall make up some 70% of a modern aircraft’s unit cost.
I will do it for cheaper.
Sure will pal.
Some 135 hp engine on the aircraft I’ve last worked on costs ca. $40k.
>Some 135 hp engine on the aircraft I’ve last worked on costs ca. $40k.
Why are they so expensive? Ive wondered the same thing with outboard motors for boats which are also insanely expensive.
Every single component has to be certified by a governing body
You really wouldn’t want a car engine in a plane.
Even car-esque engine.
Pic rel, a racing plane, used two Nissan racing car engines. Despite of the plane itself being very promising, it underperformed and in the end crashed, killing its pilot - all because the engines couldn’t take continuous high loads required in an aircraft.
>"Pic rel"
>no Pic rel
Oh fuck I forgot the pic kek
More like normal cars need to unite against EV trannys and get them the fuck off this board and onto Elon's exploding rocket to space.
Makes sense. TY for the explanations.
Because the FAA is tired of shitter airplanes falling out of the sky and crashing into houses, so they want every single part checked and traceable and the insurance, etc. for all of that makes it expensive as fuck. They also don't want regular joe's flying, they want airspace for their private jets and commercial airlines, not Cessnas clogging up the flight pattern.
>not Cessnas clogging up the flight pattern.
GA may be hard to get access to due to cost, but that is definitely not the case
FAA is probably actually gay and cringe these days, but keep in mind 90% of GA airplanes is 4 to 6 cylinder, air-cooled, normally aspirated boxer engines with 6 litres or more displacement.
Probably 40% of those without fuel injection but carburetor instead. With manual mixture controls and manual priming.
Couple those engines with the magneto system that keeps the engines running even if you lose alternator and battery and you have a stupidly reliable system.
The irony is that the one contender of recent years is a "high-tech" fadec controlled turbodiesel that will shit the bed if you lose electric power. It even famously produced double-engine failures at low battery SoC as the landing gear motor pulled too much power during retraction.
to make a slight addon: engines in planes are actually super cool because a supercharger makes a lot of sense as you go up into less dense air.
Idk about boats but for aircraft:
>reliability
In a car if an engine fails, you just stop on the side of the road. You’ll be angry but there’s not much danger coming from it. In an aircraft it’s an emergency that might very well end up in an accident.
>load
Car engines operate at a fraction of their maximum power for most of the time. In planes, you use much of the available power even in cruise. Takeoff and climb is just constantly squeezing every hip out of it; for takeoff specifically engine goes above its nominal power rating. See how this point combines with the first one.
>operating conditions
Aircraft are subject to more varying (and more quickly) conditions than cars.
>regulations
To guarantee first point is satisfied despite the following, there are very strict certification procedures.
for boats
>reliability
yeah, you aren't going to sink if your fuel pump goes out but I don't know anyone that wants to be at the whims of the tide while they wait for rescue
>load
same with a boat, 90% of use is at full rated power but for an arbitrary amount of time
>operating conditions
constant salt water conditions will completely fuck the best designed marine products and most boats are subject to uncontrolled outdoor conditions their entire lifespan
>regulations
actually fairly relaxed in boating, there's plenty of small cheap outboards out there that have a 2stroke exhaust straight into the water
personally I own a 70hp 2 stroke yamaha that's 20 years old and has only ever needed 1 set of plugs and a jug of oil
Nice to know.
So I guess except for regulations, we are in very much the same *boat*.
There is a basically tax for luxury items. Shit like boats, SxS, sports cars, etc. All cost well over what they should. Niche market, smaller volumes, less competition.
Also though boat engines, even though, their failure isn't necessarily as consequential, are still overbuilt compared to a car. Boats often run pretty much flat out for long periods of times. Offshore fishing boats often run flat out for an hour. Even a pretty hard run track car isn't pushed like that, there are throttle off seconds entering turns etc whereas the boat is just pegged running 70miles out to a fishing hole.
All aircraft components are crazy expensive. A basic bitch air cooled piston engine making less than 200HP in a Cessna can cost as much as a new 911 engine
Planes do completely different things than cars.
Fly-by-wire only makes sense in planes because you can program the flight envelope to prevent the pilot from making inputs the computer doesn't want.
A car doesn't disintegrate itself if it goes too fast. It also doesn't fall out of the sky if it goes too slow.
Meanwhile the benefit of feel transducers is apparent in a plane because of the whole "flying" part. If you lose power steering you can just stop your car.
Coupled with mobile internet modems in your car and if you're lucky a SecOC secured CAN bus, you're basically 5 years away from 1337 hax0rs wrapping your car around a tree all the way from russia.
> Dude is that a NOT ROUND STEERING WHEEL? IT'S LIKE I'M LIVING IN ONE OF MY SCI FI VIDEO GAMES!
Tesla is fucking cringe and so is Musk
teslas don’t have steer by wire so the driver still has to spin that thing if they need to turn the tires fully
i wish i was this feminine.
:3
Is it the same guy? That's a Model 3 and the one posted earlier is an S/X
The one on the right would look pretty good if he lifted for a bit and got into ottermode
If this is how his thighs look like when they are squished down by sitting, how do they look like when he's standing?
so thin the sex appeal is gone. this must be like fucking a plastic straw hes so frail.
i rather have Land Rover Santana 86 interior than this fucking homosexual shit
Do you get a random loot chest every 100 swipes?
>you've unlocked heated seats!
almost reality
>Audi
The future is AIDS. My car gets more special by the year. I think the days of manufacturers producing good cars are over. We've hit the peak and if you want a good one these are the last years to get them before the industry gets the iphone treatment.
Hilarious reading boomers in this thread upset at new thing. I don't need to shift gears during 99% of my drive. Why the fuck should there be a dedicated stick or button for it?
This should be really fun in New England during snow season.
From the EV owners I know up here in Vermont, you dont drive your EV in the winter. The range is depleted and the car runs horribly. Winters are for subaru driving up here.
>engorging myself with my third big mac for the day
>accidentally spill my double extra large mega gulp bloatmaxx from 7-11
>swing my arm to try and catch it
>load shift due to my massive arm causes me to lose traction
>slam into the car next to me and cause an 18 car pileup
>semi truck couldn't react in time and plows into the pileup, causing an explosion
FUCKING GAMESTOP
>ad supported features
>swipe the Pepsi can to park your thirst
The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades (to confuse the in-car camera)
>Juniper
It’s a fucking twitter tranny
Americans will do ANYTHING to avoid shifting gears. Subhumans.
Touchscreen controls. That's a no-go. No matter what another EVtranny ever types on this board about the environment or some shitbox plaid 1/4 time the answer will be touchscreen controls. Pathetic. Retards. Ywnbaw.
how do you tow the car if the battery is flat?
With a flatbed
Manual and automatic drivers need to unite against this homosexualry.