Having mutltiple tabs in notepad is nice. But they murdered the startup time.
Before win11 notepad didn't have any perceivable startup time, it probably took a single digit millisecond amount.
I didn't measure it but now it feels like its somewhere in the hundreds of milliseconds. Absolutey disgusting.
The only reason vscode is doing good is because programming languages (other than C) are doing shit they shouldnt do, and casually vscode knows, somehown, how to go around.
Fuck this, there are other tools to program other than the IDE to use anyway, like code visualizers.
>Sending all my data to Microsoft and training their AI models
So where do you store your code? If it's github or gitlab theyre already doing that >I dont store my code
Ah so your opinion is worthless and you dont do shit but fizzbuzz
>What data does VS Code send to MSFT when you turn off telemetry?
you see the little "ms-" on those extensions? they send data too and there are many pre-installed.
I laugh at people who think they use codium but still install microsoft extensions.
What data does VS Code and/or MSFT extensions send to MSFT when you turn off telemetry?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know what data but it is doing it, you shouldn't trust extensions, no matter if they are from MS or not
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah and you should wear a tinfoil hat too right?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah and you should wear a tinfoil hat too right?
Also it says "third party extensions might not respect this setting". Microsoft isn't a third party. But if you can find evidence from a "specific extension's documentation" of telemetry, where the extension is from Microsoft, then fair enough. I think Microsoft would most likely allow you to disable telemetry in their extensions.
But in any case, even if they do collect crash reports or even usage data, it's not exactly the end of the world is it. If your time is worth nothing then you might want to dick around with this shit but most people just want to get their work done.
Like there would be a window for actual code but when you write a method, a graphical block with the name of the method will be generated in another window, which you can click to easily get back to the method when needed
>no line numbers >no syntax highlighting
you're a sociopath
>no line numbers
n >no syntax highlighting
just pipe it through source-highlight or pygmentize. I have this in my local bin/
rlwrap ed -v ${@:2} | source-highlight -s $1 -f esc
there isn't a single best one, but generally you should stick to: >vscode >jetbrains IDE for you language of choice >vim if you need to quickly edit some config file
If you put Notepad++ and Sublime in there, why not add in Notepad too? Some of those aren't IDEs. And Jetbrains does it best by far, you don't even have to try the others. Don't bother with VS Code, it is good and responsive, but it can't compare to IDEA's "intellisense" and other features that mark possible bugs in your code. Saved me a lot of time in my career.
the one you are comfortable using the most and you are most familiar with?, jesus it's just a fucking fancy text editor with shortcuts you stupid baby, clearly if your problem is WHICH one to use, i doubt you even program in the first place
been pretty happy with VSCode with the vscode-neovim extension, basically the best out of both worlds
I get all the neovim stuff without needing to bother getting debugging and just general comfy IDE stuff to work in Neovim (especially for multiple languages)
and on the side i still have neovim for normal text editing
VS code for project development.
Notepad++ for brief snippets/notes
Obsidian Notes for long term project documentation and journal.
Nano for system configuration.
VS Code.
vscode
Default notepad app
This was my choice until windows 11 fucked it up, now I use notepad++
Having mutltiple tabs in notepad is nice. But they murdered the startup time.
Before win11 notepad didn't have any perceivable startup time, it probably took a single digit millisecond amount.
I didn't measure it but now it feels like its somewhere in the hundreds of milliseconds. Absolutey disgusting.
Nano
VS Code can do 98% percent of what you would ever want. The other 2% can be done by jetbrains products
at some point you will relise taht there is 1% where jetbrains fails
The only reason vscode is doing good is because programming languages (other than C) are doing shit they shouldnt do, and casually vscode knows, somehown, how to go around.
Fuck this, there are other tools to program other than the IDE to use anyway, like code visualizers.
neovim or emacs for serious code, vscode to feel for poking around my react app
neovim
More like nu-age bullshit
Works beat for me:
QtCreator: C++
NetBeans: Java, HTML, CSS, php, js
Dexed: D
please just use vim
>vim
>can't do 1% vscode offers even with plugins
Such as?
Sending all my data to Microsoft and training their AI models
>for free
like a good naggercattle?
Yeah you can keep those “features”
>Sending all my data to Microsoft and training their AI models
So where do you store your code? If it's github or gitlab theyre already doing that
>I dont store my code
Ah so your opinion is worthless and you dont do shit but fizzbuzz
I self-host Gitea homie.
so your opinion is worthless and you dont do shit but fizzbuzz
>Sending all my data to Microsoft and training their AI models
Sounds like a you problem. Install VScodium - Insiders https://vscodium.com/
What data does VS Code send to MSFT when you turn off telemetry?
Also there's Codium like this guy says:
>What data does VS Code send to MSFT when you turn off telemetry?
you see the little "ms-" on those extensions? they send data too and there are many pre-installed.
I laugh at people who think they use codium but still install microsoft extensions.
schizophrenia
What data does VS Code and/or MSFT extensions send to MSFT when you turn off telemetry?
I don't know what data but it is doing it, you shouldn't trust extensions, no matter if they are from MS or not
Yeah and you should wear a tinfoil hat too right?
Also it says "third party extensions might not respect this setting". Microsoft isn't a third party. But if you can find evidence from a "specific extension's documentation" of telemetry, where the extension is from Microsoft, then fair enough. I think Microsoft would most likely allow you to disable telemetry in their extensions.
But in any case, even if they do collect crash reports or even usage data, it's not exactly the end of the world is it. If your time is worth nothing then you might want to dick around with this shit but most people just want to get their work done.
Vim
Helix
atom may be eol but it will forever be the best uwu
It's been continued under the pulsar name.
https://pulsar-edit.dev
Why just one?
Emacs can be extended to behave like any of the others in the list.
>C++
Visual Studio, Codeblocks if it's a toy project.
>C
Any text editor in Linux.
>C#
Visual Studio.
>Python
PyCharm.
>Java
Netbeans.
>Haskell
GHCi.
>Netbeans over IDEA
Why? The rest are perfect.
Is there any IDE that has a graphical user interface? For C++ in particular. I always hate looking through header files, would rather click on blocks.
There are quite a few block programming languages. They're all aimed towards beginners though.
What do you mean by blocks?
Isn't jump to definition in visual studio good enough?
Like there would be a window for actual code but when you write a method, a graphical block with the name of the method will be generated in another window, which you can click to easily get back to the method when needed
one word for you
homosexual
It would be super convenient
See, I told you guys that drag and drop coding rots brains.
What do you even mean by this? How would you actually program anything.
there are lots of ides that have toolbar sections that will show the outline of header files
Visual Studio (not Code) and JetBrains Rider are both vastly superior to anything on this list.
emacs
ed
>no line numbers
>no syntax highlighting
you're a sociopath
>no line numbers
>no syntax highlighting
this is bloat
>this is bloat
you'd probably be happy writing your code with a pen and paper
I make my students do this for exams
how is Mumbai these days?
I only have one Indian in my class. The rest are all Chinese and white
it always starts with one, in a month you'll be eating naan bread for lunch
okay NEETsche
zoz newfag doesn't know
based
>no line numbers
n
>no syntax highlighting
just pipe it through source-highlight or pygmentize. I have this in my local bin/
rlwrap ed -v ${@:2} | source-highlight -s $1 -f esc
with rlwrap you get command history too.
oh and if you pipe it to pygmentize, use pygmentize -s -l
intellij for complicated IDE stuff like refactoring, emacs for everything else
For me it's emacs. I also use sam if I just need to edit a config file quickly on the cli.
emac
vscode, but i love jupyter for somethings. definitely the side chick.
there isn't a single best one, but generally you should stick to:
>vscode
>jetbrains IDE for you language of choice
>vim if you need to quickly edit some config file
IDE for you language of choice
I am using vscode for javascript, why should I use webstorm for it?
vscode is good enough for JS / TS
you should use PyCharm for Python and Intellij for JVM
>you should use PyCharm for Python and Intellij for JVM
I use vscode even for java and python in uni, never had problems with following the lessons.
because what you do in uni is babby shit
get a job and than you'll be allowed to have an opinion, retard
Intellij Idea for large projects
Vim for small scripts
emac sir
just a few dozen hours of config, and writing lisp is fun anyway, even if it's a slightly retarded lisp
I like Kdevelop.
If you put Notepad++ and Sublime in there, why not add in Notepad too? Some of those aren't IDEs. And Jetbrains does it best by far, you don't even have to try the others. Don't bother with VS Code, it is good and responsive, but it can't compare to IDEA's "intellisense" and other features that mark possible bugs in your code. Saved me a lot of time in my career.
Neatvi
the one you are comfortable using the most and you are most familiar with?, jesus it's just a fucking fancy text editor with shortcuts you stupid baby, clearly if your problem is WHICH one to use, i doubt you even program in the first place
(also for the protocol, maybe 2 out of these pictures are IDEs, homosexual.)
Vim 99% of the time
VSCodium with vim bindings if I need something more than a text editor, which is rare tbh
It was Atom before microsoft killed it
See
Why are there 2 jetbrains IDEs in the picture?
Anyways, yeah, it's jetbrains in general for me. They're so damn good.
Pen and paper.
OP here - this was the right answer. you can all go home now
nano
vscode with copilot voice. just say what you want and touch the keyboard a handful of times an hour.
It's subjective. The best one for me is the one I like.
Jetbrains IDEs are a giant cope. Most of the features don' work/and are useless.
Jetbrains products if your project uses only 1 language, and VSCode if your project uses more than 1 language.
Use Vim as your default text editor.
been pretty happy with VSCode with the vscode-neovim extension, basically the best out of both worlds
I get all the neovim stuff without needing to bother getting debugging and just general comfy IDE stuff to work in Neovim (especially for multiple languages)
and on the side i still have neovim for normal text editing
I use micro. Works for me and that's good enough.
emac
I've been using the JetBrains stuff mostly, though I did dabble a bit in vscode, as my colleagues seem to prefer it.
kate
>Java, C#, Go, PHP, JS, TS
IntelliJ Idea Ultimate.
>C, C++
CLion.
Lite-XL, super light, easily customizable and plugin development is very easy. Also, config and plugins are written in Lua
VS code for project development.
Notepad++ for brief snippets/notes
Obsidian Notes for long term project documentation and journal.
Nano for system configuration.
Jetbrains IDEs are the best
Easy, it's Neovim