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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    BASE

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Orthodox are heretics. Tradcaths are where it's at.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    BECOME LARPER

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Which one?

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Join someone else's ethnoreligion where you will stick out like a sore thumb.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't know that once your congregation gets big enough, you will eventually have a autocephalous church set up that is literally for your ethnicity.
      You will never get to the point until you are willing to drink vodka or eat baklava.

      • 1 year ago
        sage

        Where has this happened? Why is the American church still Russian?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          America still has the problem of not having enough Orthodox in its population to warrant one. Then you also have the fact that Constantinople and Moscow both claim America as the "Barbarian Lands" that they are both in charge of.
          >Constantinople as being in charge of Barbarian Lands prior to granting them independence.
          >Moscow colonized Alaska, and thus claims all of the new world.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Copts are orthodox

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The Copts were Orthodox before the Eastern Orthodox even existed moron

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They aren't you moron

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is a new CIVILIZATION in a making. Join us or perish!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I might consider if once your glorious leader proves that Russia isn't an incompetent shithole by taking Keev.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't know that once your congregation gets big enough, you will eventually have a autocephalous church set up that is literally for your ethnicity.
      You will never get to the point until you are willing to drink vodka or eat baklava.

      racism is idolatry
      both of you are NGMI

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Orthodox
      >ethnoreligion
      Lmao

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Orthodox churches are full on state churches at this point. You mind as well worship your president or whatever you've got.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >posting a literal ex-KGB agent involved in multiple criminal activities

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is where I've landed..
    I take a pretty rational approach to faith, having grown up protestant and then was agnostic for many years, slowly came back. But even when agnostic I knew there's a higher something, I just don't know what the nature of it is
    Christianity is tough for me because approaching it dogmatically is difficult to maintain by reason. But yet there's something there, intuitively. And when I practice it, I feel better. So my approach has been, even if it doesn't quite make sense theologically, I have to suspend disbelief and overuse of reason, in order to practice it. Otherwise I could spend the rest of my life searching and live degenerately

    Theologically however, I take issue with the eternal conscious torment interpretation of hell, which I don't think was intended originally anyway. I know there are Orthodox universalists, so I still fit in.

    But where I depart on one issue is the nature of the soul. I believe in something more like Plato's theory of the soul, where it's pre-existent. While immortality may not be the same as eternal, it seems too willy nilly that immortal beings get created from a night of horniness usually, and are many times not even sought, but an unintended consequence. I'm aware that puts me at odds with the Orthodox

    Which brings me to my biggest conundrum, I have a hard time believing the Bible is the infallible word of God, just when you look at it all historically. I'm not even positive Jesus was co-equal with God, but I do believe he was at least divine in some way. The level of divinity might be irrelevant, just that he's above us and our lord and savior. I think it's possible though he can be lord and savior without having created the universe, but I'm agnostic on it and didn't form a conclusion. I don't see the problem with just saying he's God though, for matters of simplicity/practicality

    My thinking of the most likely reality of what happened is that Jesus (1/2)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      (2/2)
      That Jesus was the most divine human ever, and the Bible captures a good bit of what he taught, with some inaccuracies here and there. The early church leaders after him were bestowed some level of holiness in the early days after Jesus' death, but over time the level of holiness given (Holy Spirit?) had degraded to some degree, allowing for an incomplete, yet sufficiently essential Bible and traditions/church.

      So my view is I'm skeptical on infallibly of the Bible or traditions, but I see it still containing the essentials needed to convey the truth.

      What I like most about Orthodoxy is the focus on mysticism and theosis; they get it where the other branches of Christianity fail. I think this was the point from the beginning, and for me there is more grace given in the non-essential areas of the Bible/teachings, because this is what really matters

      Would I still be considered Orthodox?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The trinity is non-negotiable. Jesus is part of the trinity, it's one Godhead. It's lucidly stated in the Bible.

        Now afaik the Bible was written with the help of the Holy Spirit, so it's not a literal word of God and likely does contain some human error.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Where does this meme that the non-Protestant churches believe the scriptures can contain human error come from? The Catholic Church is very clear that due to divine inspiration the Bible is the literal Word of God and can't possibly be erroneous. I imagine it's the same for the Orthodox.

          Really goes to show how driven by stereotypes posts here are.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            like how do you expect any church to say "oops uh yeah divine inspiration fricked up here, just ignore this lol"

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            like how do you expect any church to say "oops uh yeah divine inspiration fricked up here, just ignore this lol"

            here's a source, i better not read this meme here again

            >136 God is the author of Sacred Scripture because he inspired its human authors; he acts in them and by means of them. He thus gives assurance that their writings teach without error his saving truth (cf. DV 11).
            http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a3.htm#136

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      (2/2)
      That Jesus was the most divine human ever, and the Bible captures a good bit of what he taught, with some inaccuracies here and there. The early church leaders after him were bestowed some level of holiness in the early days after Jesus' death, but over time the level of holiness given (Holy Spirit?) had degraded to some degree, allowing for an incomplete, yet sufficiently essential Bible and traditions/church.

      So my view is I'm skeptical on infallibly of the Bible or traditions, but I see it still containing the essentials needed to convey the truth.

      What I like most about Orthodoxy is the focus on mysticism and theosis; they get it where the other branches of Christianity fail. I think this was the point from the beginning, and for me there is more grace given in the non-essential areas of the Bible/teachings, because this is what really matters

      Would I still be considered Orthodox?

      no you interpret scripture like a protestant

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You're saying I interpret it literally?
        But literal ideas of hell are still the default in Orthodox. It might be seen a little differently, in that we experience God's love as a form of hell, but it's still conveying eternal torment/separation from God. Eternal conscious torment, as I framed it originally

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ecumenical councils were done to end actual heresies, localized problems can be solved with local councils. Doing an Ecumenical council just to prove that we can would be pointless since the Latin Church has proven its illegitimacy by introducing doctrine that directly contradict scripture.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you stopped having heresies, that just means heresy triumphed among you. The devil will never attack a house that belongs to him lmao

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