>be most advanced and centralized empire of your time
>have a million standing soldiers
>have city walls that are highly defensible
>some how a handful of horse-nomads conquer your empire in few decades
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they were literally ruled by dickless homies
It was a ton of horse nomads plus chinese conscripts and korean allies
>be most advanced and centralized empire of your time
>have a million standing soldiers
>some how a handful of horse-nomads
The Mongol empire was ten times bigger than the Song dynasty, it had multiples tomes the population and a bigger army by multiple times.
>but Kublai only rul-
The different Khanates acknowled Kublai as supreme ruler and they exchanged personnel. Han Chinese like Shi Tianlin participated in the conquests of the Golden Horde and Guo Kan participated in Ilkhanate conquests.
The entire kingdom of Dali in Yunnan and other Tusi defected to the Mongol empire.
Koreans particpated in the Mongol invasions of Japan not southern Song.
Kublai Khan handed out Korean women to Southern Song soldiers who defected to the Yuan so if you count Korean women riding Han Chinese men as participation then they "participated".
>The Mongol empire was ten times bigger than the Song dynasty, it had multiples tomes the population and a bigger army by multiple times.
Was it? 90% of their conquest had a population density of 1
>90% of their conquest had a population density of 1
>Centra Asia
>Northern Pontus and Desh-i-Kipchack
>Iran
>Northern China
>population density of 1
>Centra Asia
small population density centered around the Tarim Basin oasis cities, Fergana valley, and transoxiana. Also Mongols killed a shit ton
>Northern Pontus and Desh-i-Kipchack
steppes.
>Iran
killed like 80% of the population
>Northern china
only thing you're right about
>small population
>Khwarezm's regular army (aka without calling the tribal, peasant and cities militias) were around 500k men
>steppes.
populated by 1kk people
>500k men
You just outed yourself as an idiot
>500k men
not reality for a field army of this size, even Ming could barely gather 100K
Well, they conquered northern China decades beforehand and it alone had a similar population to the southern Song along with comparable tech.
Kublai Khan gave Korean women to Han Chinese soldiers who defected.
This strategy works every time. In fact, Tsar Vladimir should resolve the Borderland rebellion by bribing the Borderland general with Chechen women.
you joke but I think it would actually work
They don't have a million men standing army. Maybe they could raise that many with conscription, but not as standing army
Also those are lots of horse nomads. The fact that they lasted decades where others got curbstomped was honestly impressive
>yuan dynasty under Kublai Khan
>>some how a handful of horse-nomads
The Mongols took over the Jin Dynasty by allying with the Song who attacked them at the same time and when they fought the Song and other foes they had the resources of the Jin Dynasty (Northern China) to draw upon
Why does every time some nomad start invading china, the first thing that happens is a half of million or so of soldiers switch to their side? Don't they realized they're fricking their own country?
Because china is big and a lot of people would disagree with politics. Also raiding is fun and if you win you can increase your wealth and political influence which is really hard to do under a Chinese emperor. If I were a medieval Chinese peasant, especially on the outskirts of the empire, I would much rather fight with the invader. Less likely to die and more gain for me if I win.
Northern Han defected to Genghis to rape and kill Jurchens and Tanguts, moron.
Shi Bingzhi, Shi Tianze, Shi Tianlin, Shi Gang,Zhang Rou,Liu Heima, Guo Baoyu and Guo Kan were all Han generals who helped rape and kill Jurchens and helped Genghis conquer Khwarezm in Central Asia (Guo Baoyu went with Genghis to Khwarezm) Guo Kan helped conquer and rape Baghdad and Shi Tianlin served as military judge under Batu Khan in the Golden Horde.
Shi Bingzhi and his son Shi Tianze both had Korean and Jurchen wives, Shi Tianze's son Shi Gang married a Mobg Kerait woman and Shi Tianlin married Mongol women.
>bragging about how the Han Chinese defected to prep the Mongol bulls as they raped their countrywomen
And I thought that the Chinese couldn't get more cucked. lmao.
Han Chinese and Mongol bulls raped millions of Jurchen and Tangut women.
Genghis Khan personally raped a Jurchen Wanyan princess while Kublai Khan gave his own daughter in marriage to Han Chinese southern Song Emperor Gong (Zhao Xian)
Why did the Mongols rape the Jurchen royal family but not the Han Chinese Song royal family?
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12163100/#q12163100
Xiongnu Qiedihou Chanyu gave his daughter to the Han Chinese General Li Ling to defect. Chedihou then appointed Li Ling as governor or ruler of Jiankun (Yenisei) were he built a Chinese Han dynasty style palace. Yenisei Kyrgyz (Kirghiz) Khagans (Khaghans) of the Are clan claimed descent from Li Ling
A Mongol Borjigin princess was married to the Han Chinese Southern Song Emperor Gong (Zhao Xian). Their son was Zhao Wanpu.
Kublai Khan also married off a Mongol Borjigin Princess to the third last Song dyansty Han Chinese child Emperor Gong, named Zhao Xian in exchange for him capitulating and surrendering Hangzhou without a fight. they had one son, Zhao Wanpu
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7358719#p7359328
Genghis Khan took the Jurchen Wanyan Jin Princess of Qi (or Princess Qiguo) as his concubine. She was the daughter of Jurchen Jin emperor Wanyan Yongji also known as Prince Shao of Wei.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7358719#p7359375
>Another Mongol Borjigin Princess A Gai (Agai or Agai Zhu) married King Duan Gong of Dali who was also of Han Chinese descent and they had two children. She was daughter of Basalawarmi, Mongol Yuan Prince of Liang in Yunnan. Dali was a vassal kingdom in Yunnan and the Duan family were paternally Han Chinese who originated from Wuwei in Gansu according to Yuan dynasty records but ruled over a Bai majority population in the kingdom of Dali and intermarried with Bai. After false rumours circulated that Duan Gong plotted to seize power from Basalawarmi as the Yuan dynasty was falling apart and Ming Yuzhen was planning to attack from Sichuan, Basalawarmi asked his daughter to poison him. His daughter refused and warned her husband but he did not believe it. One of Basalawarmi's officers later killed him and she was put on suicide watch by her father. Duan Gong's daughter Duan Sengnu or Qiangna or Qiangnu raised her younger brother Duan Bao to avenge his death. Basalawarmi committed suicide when the Ming dynasty invaded
The Mongols literally sent a Han Chinese military officers with Batu Khan to invade Europe.
Shi Tianlin was a Han military judge in Batu Khan's army during his Golden Horde campaign.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12011702/#q12012885
https://web.archive.org/web/20210729212530/https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/eprint/201778/1/10.1515_asia-2017-0013.pdf|archive-url1=https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-Judge-at-the-Crossroads-of-Cultures%3A-Shi-Tianlin-Hodous/c34fd61bf20d50ee741bf73fcea42939efee0214
Genghis Khan raped Jurchen girls like Princess Qiguo while Kublai Khan married his own daughter off to Han Chinese Song Emperor Gong (Zhao Xian).
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12163100/#q12163100
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/8113884/#q8113884
Han Chinese generals like Shi Gang abd Shi Tianlin who helped Genghis destroy the Jurchens and invade Europe were given Mongol wives.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12011702/#q12012914
Genghis Khan's family married their own daughter off to Han Chinese men while they raped Jurchen (Manchu) women.
Han Chinese Shi family married Mongol women after defecting. Shi Tianlin's wives all had Korean and Mongol names and his sons and daughters were given Mongol names.
https://www.proquest.com/openview/5bacfdb8352c877c9235a34eaea87d2c/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=2038875
https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/asia-2017-0013/html
Shi Tianze's son Shi Gang married a Mongol Kerait woman.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10403196/#q10403203
https://archive.is/4TAGC#p10106849
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9505389/#q9532845
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9469475/#q9469637
The Mongols killed 8 million Jurchens and millions of Tanguts in northern China.
Han soldiers were doing most of the fighting by slaughtering Jurchen cucks and Tanguts. The Mongols, Han and Khitan defectors raped entire Jurchen majority cities while sparing Han parts like Kaifeng where only Jurchens got raped since Han opened the gates to the cities. Eight million Jurchens reduced to 100,000, Tanguts nearly wiped out.
The Mongols called on Han and Khitan to join then, open the gates of the Jin walls and cities and slaughter the Jurchen and that those who opened the gates would not be slaughtered, raped or pillaged. The majority of the "Mongol army" attacking Jin were Han Chinese tumens who slaughtered Jurchen armies. Shi Tianze slaughtered 80,000 Jurchen led by Jurchen Prince Wanyan Chengyi at Pucheng to open the war to Kaifeng. Han officer Cui Li opened Kaifeng's gates from the inside. The Han civilians were spared but all the Jurchen were slaughtered. The Mongols sacked and raped Tangut majority Xingqing and Jurchen majority Zhongdu.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7515576/#q7517915
Manchus/Jurchens have Mongol haplogroups, Han don't
The Southern Song capital Lin'an (Hangzhou) was also never sacked by the Yuan or Mongol empire. The Southern Song Han Chinese emperor Gong (Zhao Xian) submitted at Hangzhou and was then married off to Kublai Khan's daughter in Beijing (Khanbaliq).
Mongols gave women to Han Chinese defectors. Mongol women were married to Han officers and captured Korean women were distributed to Han footsoldiers who defected.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7515576/#q7518011
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7515576/#q7517861
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7452921/#q7460338
Over half the Mongol empire's army against the Jin Han Chinese from the Han Chinese tumen armies of Shi Tianze, Zhang Hongfan, Zhang Rou.
The Mongols only occupied Beijing and other points in the north and demanded Korea pay tribute in Korean women as states in the Korean history book Goryeosa which was never been written or edited in China. Direct quotes from Goryeosa and Robinson's book, neither of them Chinese.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7358719#p7359369
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7358719#p7359270
The Persian Rashid Al-din also wrote the Song Emperor Gong was son in law to Kublai Khan after marrying the Mongol princes.
The Han tumen General Shi Tianze's son Shi Gang married a Mongol Kerait woman.
Han officers like Shi Gang and Han royals like Zhao Xian (Emperor Gong of Song) and Duan Gong who defected were married to Mongol women while Han soldiers who defected were given Korean women en masse by the Mongols after the Mongols extracted the women from Goryeo (Korea) as tribute. The Mongols also gave Korean women to Central Asian soldiers and Tibetan officials like Sengge.
Would you die for Israel anon?
Genghis Khan and the Mongol elite were white bulls. The Chinese were scrawny rice-eating yellow manlets.
Do you need more of an explanation?
Genghis Khan was a Mongoloid who raped and killed millions of Jurchens (Manchus) and Indo-Europeans in Central Asia and replaced Indo European Y DNA all over Kazakhstan and Hazarajat with his own C2a* while native O3a Y DNA remains the majority in Han people.
There were 8 million Jurchens in the Jin dynasty and millions of Tanguts in Western Xia in 1211 when Genghis attacked.
There were barely 100,000 Jurchens in 1600.
Jurchens (Manchus) were raped like dogs by Genghis and the later Jurchens worshipped him after he raped and killed millions of them like cattle.