Be honest, are you only convinced that being gay is wrong for political reasons? Has anybody read this book?
Be honest, are you only convinced that being gay is wrong for political reasons? Has anybody read this book?
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>for political reasons
Why would early Christianity needed to have opposed homosexuality for political reasons when it was openly accepted in Roman society?
That's exactly why. You want something changed, say God agrees with you.
>You want something changed, say God agrees with you.
Why were they so opposed to homosexuality?
I agree that Christianity is a pro-LGBT religion and that is exactly one of the reason why I hate it.
You should stop being so hateful, friend.
I'm not a Christhomosexual so I'm under no obligation to follow the rules of your homo religion.
Homophobia is a social view that stems not from political reasoning, but because it is an unnatural state of being that is contrary to our morality and biology. No I haven't read the book.
It isn't though. It is being subverted by outsiders and insiders in the same ways Whites are.
If the israelites are making your people take it in the ass you deserve everything you get. You lost, and you will NEVER be israeli. Get over it.
>when other races fuck up it's their fault for being le inferior
>when I fuck up it's because I'm too special to do so on my own Accord and am being subverted
Whites deserve to be hated.
eh, sounds like a stretch. There are some things like Sodom and Gomorrah which don't neatly line up with the idea that they were destroyed purely for sodomy, they were trying to rape angels who were also guests in the town.
But this definitely wasn't a major issue for the Bible like Christians today make it to be. There's only sparse mentions of sodomy being condemned, and only one condemning women for it. They were far more interested in condemning doing work on the Sabbath, that's even in the 10 commandments. I'm pretty sure nearly all Christians break this rule based on what the Bible considers "work" on the Sabbath.
Actually the whole gay issue is one of the reasons that I finally left that religion. It's completely obvious to anybody objectively observing the things around them that being gay is not a choice.
>Society is pushing for tolerance of homosexualry and indoctrination into this category.
It isn't biological in the way that being Asian is though, only through developmental manipulation can homosexuality be passed off as "natural".
>only through developmental manipulation can homosexuality be passed off as "natural"
No, that's something you made up because as much of an asshole as you are, even you know that condemning somebody for something they were born with and can't control is a cruel thing to do. We're not sure why some people are gay and others are, and it could very well be a combination of genetic and environmental factors. At least be honest lol. And it's observed in nature as well so the idea that there's some scheme to indoctrinate people into homosexuality is rendered even more retarded.
>condemning somebody for something they were born with and can't control is a cruel thing to do.
They're condemned for acting out on their bad impulses like a person hearing voices in their head telling them to kill isn't going to burn but the one that acts out on it will. You have control over your actions.
>on their bad impulses
There's nothing making it "bad" besides a barbaric, contradictory old book saying an invisible man there is no evidence for doesn't like it. Only a moron takes that seriously.
All humans want sex and companionship, to deny that to gay people just because an old book says it's bad is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
> just live your entire life a sexless, romantically devoid husk or get with a woman who you aren't attracted to sexually and will never love!!! Problem solved bro!!!
If a person want to have sex he cant say he Is Christian cause thats one core belief of Christianity
You can be whatever you want. Make your own religion but you cant be a Christian
Now you want to change yourself to be Christian thats another thing
Murder and having consensual intercourse with a same-sex partner are the same thing?
Sure if that is what you got out of that post.
Having sex with men is a choice.
Ever heard of incels? Or how God designed man to live in partnership?
So what if someone has sex with men? "Ancient book says it's bad" is a moronic reason to think something is wrong, especially when that same book has no problem with slavery and mass child slaughter. If your book takes the time to ban mixed fabrics and shellfish but not slavery, it belongs in the dustbin of history.
Its your choice to believe whatever you want
Christian believe its wrong its their choice to accept whatever they want
That'd be fine if Christians weren't constantly trying to impose their dumb "morality" on everyone else. If they had their way, a lot of them would ban and even criminalize homosexual activity. That's the reason there's such a pushback, if they kept their barbaric beliefs to themselves and didn't try to legislate them, no one would care.
>If they had their way, a lot of them would ban and even criminalize homosexual activity.
No they wouldn't. Christianity is the world's most pro-LGBT religion. They don't just tolerate homosexuality, they actively promote both homosexuality and trannyism.
>being trans is........ LE BAD
Yes, that's what I believe. Most Christians disagree and instead fully support trannyism.
>Most Christians disagree and instead fully support trannyism.
Ask one of the many atheists out there that are also homophobic. I am not an atheist so I cannot give you an atheist answer.
No, it is generally something forced onto low status males. Most self proclaimed gay males are just guys the women hated growing up so they are so fucked in the head they can't even imagine being with a woman. I would say a very minor fraction are gay from birth and most are just reacting to a dire situation they find themselves in where women would not approach them (prison gay).
Yeah, I am sure the five hundred pound dudes at gay baths with 1,000+ body counts would turn down 10/10 women if offered them.
Guys there are
1) prison gays
2) real gays, I mean holy fuck how could you fake such absurd mannerisms???
3) gays for pay
4) drug induced homosexuality, where you are completely straight but get horny enough to suck a dick when you're on your drug of choice
1 and 3 are by far the majority nowadays. I am talking places like Reddit or AGPs who transition.
I have a very active imagination and am quite capable of AGP but am definitely a straight normal man
That said visit Grindr and you will find no shortage of flamboyant gays that are afraid of loud noises and hand tools.
Being pro or anti gay is entirely political and isn't actually about people being gay or not.
Personally I think everyone should stop giving a shit either way and treat each other as individuals rather than generic units of [political entity] that can be put in a neat box based on [your side]
My church rabidly talks shit on trannies and fags every single sermon. I am a man and prolapse my anus and twerk on giant dildos on onlyfans for what is usually older men, life is odd.
If you actually read what the Bible says on issues of sex, you'll recognize that the problem with fornication was that you were sullying somebody's future wife. And with adultery, you are of course sullying somebody else's property. It's very likely they did not see homosexuality as sexuality at all. Just men helping each other masturbate. Also which is not pointed out of sinful in the Bible.
The idea of homosexuality being sinful is only a new age idea. The Bible only mentions sex with boys being wrong and men sexually gratifying each other in honor of pagan gods -- which was a very common ritual. Every single time it is brought up it is in a list or in reference to a pagan ritual ceremony.
I agree, Christianity is a fully and vocally pro-LGBTQ religion. Jesus would have said gay and trans rights matter.
My pastor threatens to take the word "baptist" off their sign out front and to then become their own christian missionary sect if degeneracy goes any further
? Do they know about your work?
Yes that is me and fuck no I live in rural america and always have, I just happen to like what I like. I am also red blooded as fuck, and think fags and trannies are pathetic. You would just think I'm some random redneck at a gas station if I'm not doing that dirty task. My ass is fucking nice, btw. I am also 100% straight, but my imagination is very strong.
Americans are fascinating.
As far as I can tell none of my peer group is degenerate like me but of course I suppose I would never know
>gay sex was actually good according to the Bible until a bunch of chuds brainwashed everyone into thinking it was bad for no reason other than evil
This is what modernists actually believe.
Furthermore, the view of sex in biblical times was akin to being hungry for a sandwich would be today. And of course if you are hungry, you are not going to go steal someone else's sandwich (adultery), nor would you take a sandwich that was prepared and yet to be assigned or bought by anybody (fornication).
If your buddy offered you his banana then it's not an issue. Sex issues in the Bible were about ownership. And they would see modern times' aversion to it as silly we would see banning eating sandwiches.
The Bible seems to heavily imply "if it feels wrong in your heart" then it's a sin, given that so much of it is up for interpretation. For example "sexual immorality" could mean fucking anything, but in your heart of hearts, you have an idea of what that means. The problem is, does what you think "sexual immortality" means matter? Surely not. Surely it's only God's will that matters. So why do we have this personal interpretation anyways? Well, if you possess enough "faith" you will have the answer revealed to you in your own head.
>The Bible seems to heavily imply "if it feels wrong in your heart" then it's a sin, given that so much of it is up for interpretation.
I don't know that that's true though. In fact it specifically declares the heart is deceitful among all things. For instance, a feminist might feel that she's doing a good deed by spreading feminism to impressionable young girls. I think the Bible more implies being led by the Holy Spirit then the heart.
And just like the feminist believes that she is doing a good deed by spreading feminism, the person declaring gay men sinful thinks they are also spreading a holy and good message. But that also is not supported by scripture so it should be at least tempered. Of course we feel that having gay sex is bad because we were raised in a society that told us such a thing was bad. We were not born knowing this. And had it never been mentioned to us, we might find as disgusting as someone eating a food that disgusts us -- if we are straight. But just as we don't find it evil to eat something we find disgusting, we would not declare it evil, naturally.
My church leans toward "any thought that is not bible-tier holiness" is a demon trying to fuck with you. I know that many sinful acts in my life have brought me joy and zero guilt. I don't know how I'm supposed to frame this in order to properly be Christian. Is it worse to pretend to have guilt but actually feel none? The Bible is very far from clear enough on any subject. There is a very strong degree of willingness involved with interpretation.
>There is a very strong degree of willingness involved with interpretation.
That's fair enough. It seems to rely on the Holy Spirit to guide you more than it does the words on the page, for sure. Of course how do we know it is our deceitful heart talking or the Holy Spirit? I suppose that can't be explained.
Yeah so for me once you get to this point, it seems trying to conceptualize your sin becomes a total waste of time because you could just be self-flagellating for no purpose when God is actually cool with you. So instead, I just focus on joy and whatnot. I figure I'll just put all my energy into goodness and yeah I'll have some sins along the way but I'm not a fucking sin accountant and life would be awful trying to keep track of all of it so I don't. Meanwhile lots of my friends are constantly feeling awful because they are worried about things being sins.
I had a legitimate encounter with God and am a Christian at the age of 28. Was a life long atheist. I have little knowledge of Christianity and want to do it right, because that is the God I encountered. Every time I do even a little bit of thinking about theology though, I just end up with 100 unanswered questions when I initially just had 1 question.
From my point of view, and what you're saying makes a lot of sense to me, I think all we need is the sermon on the mount. And in fact that's pretty much all Christians had for decades. Whenever I'm confused by something I simply go back to the sermon on the mount and everything becomes clear. These are the laws God wrote on every man's heart.
Yeah but maybe I'm a fucking idiot maybe you're supposed to cry and beg for forgiveness 24/7 I don't fucking know I need answers
I don't think so. Check out the Oera Linda.
Man I am almost 100% norwegian with some scottish, the nordic shit appeals very heavily to me. I died and was out of my body and met God and was put back into my body. It was a very unsettling experience that is very difficult to put into words. I am not even happy about it. I thin religion is fucking stupid. I however cannot go my entire life denying what I encountered. So I'm a christian now and literally mad that God exists. I was baptized like 6 weeks ago.
Were you sick, or was it just a dream?
Drank so much alcohol that my organs failed, kidneys stopped processing water had a fuckton of water on the brain, lungs stopped working, heart stopped, this was all from the hangover I actually survived the drinking part but died while sobering up. I was not on the ceiling or anything, I was just above my body. Then I saw the light and there was an entity within it, it wasn't hot or cold, it was a stern judgement type of feel to it. I communicated with this entity, was more of a 1 way conversation because I was being instructed to never fuck up again pretty much. I went back into my body and I have not had a drink since.
I have no organ damage after 10 years of black out drinking every single day of my life. In fact, I was perfectly healthy the next day. An utter fucking miracle. My liver/gallbladder has been in pain for YEARS.
It was wild too, when I left my body, my "self" was immediately separate from my senses which I cannot even put into words but wow fuck I truly thought your "self" was just your senses and memories but the way my "self" was separated screams to me that souls are real.
It was an immediate "Oh fuck God is real, I have massively fucked up" situation.
I'd go farther and say Paul hijacked Christianity and nothing Paul ever wrote was remotely "divinely inspired."
He wrote half the fucking Bible and all of it sucks, not just the handlful of "controversial" lines people point to nowadays to vilify fags or whatever.
Moids really do be clawing to defend their hatred of gay people
Pathetic death throes of an institutional injustice on the same level as slavery
"I am a brown muslim raised in a shithole that loves hating gay people due to my subhuman nature" is all I'm hearing from you
you can't act better and then be racist
Sorry Sahid, didn't mean to upset you
I am atheist so I don't have to subscribe to Christian morality which tells me I must love homosexuals and that getting my children's genitalia cut off is a virtuous act.
Atheists aren't exactly known for being notorious transphobes
Ah, so you're just plain stupid then
That wasn't the same person, but certainly not a question that should result in such an answer.