Autogynephilia is a real fetish. Why are we encouraging people to ruin their lives over it?

It's known that autogynephilia is a real paraphilia, yet the modern trans agenda states that it is not. Why is it so hard for real transgender women to admit that some trans women are doing it purely for fetishistic reasons?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol the audacity of a psychologist diagnosing someone with AGP in 2020+X year is only matched by the boomerhon immediately texting his kids about it

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine doing this with dysmorphia or schizophrenia patients. Telling them that the doctors are wrong.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ones who are doing it for fetishistic reasons are the ones who don't want to admit it exists because having a fetish caries a stigma and is exceedingly malebrained.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Youre discounting male autism which is clearly present in OPs posr

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >real trans women
    No such thing. It's like saying Stallone was really Rambo in that movie, to be trans is to pretend to be something you aren't.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dilate

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ones who are doing it for fetishistic reasons are the ones who don't want to admit it exists because admitting that it is a fetish pricks the fantasy that they are real women somehow, thus defeating the object of the fetish.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically, I have no fucking clue what the fuck is going on with the LGBTQ community at this point. I feel like there's really only two options when approaching gender in a healthy, productive way. That's either to be so strictly-cis and anti-everything else that any sort of deviation from gender norms is taken and bent into a way that fits into ones assigned gender at birth - e.g. a man who has an aptness for feminine things like cooking is made into an artisan, or a woman who has an aptness for masculine things like general field work is made into a military nurse - or to be completely devoid of any true strictness with gender identity so that one's expression of themselves is entirely free and without bias.
    The modern-day trans community, *especially* all of you people here on /tttt/, fit in a weird middle ground where you accept ideas of the fluidity of gender, but deny that gender expression can go beyond stereotypical man or woman. It's quite odd, hypocritical, and just dumb.
    How I see your story in picrel is that it would benefit greatly from the latter example of gender-fluidity. The redditor's father, or parent altogether, is gender-fluid and has a feminine sexuality. He/she/they should be entirely comfortable expressing their gender. Just because they have a feminine sexuality, and enjoy expressing femininity in a sexual context - which is by all means a fetish - doesn't mean they need to transition nor fit strictly in with gender roles.
    Watch as this post is ignored because it's original.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gender critical is the final philosophy of transgender people. Anything else is pure cope. You know you've figured it out when you're taking exogenous hormones whilest being gender critical

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not even taking hormones at all. I just think I have a retarded amount of testosterone and estrogen at the same time
        >t. massive conetits with no hrt

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The modern-day trans community, *especially* all of you people here on /tttt/, fit in a weird middle ground where you accept ideas of the fluidity of gender, but deny that gender expression can go beyond stereotypical man or woman.
      life's not black and white you know. the reality is that our brains - and the brains of 99% of the population - recognize male and female and recognize separate norms for each. it's baked into our brains. people who develop dysphoria (who may or may not be GNC) have what can only be described as a mental illness tied to biological sex. people who present GNC often elicit various reflexive mental reactions mainly tied to our perception of their sex. it's impossible to extricate gender and gender presentation from sex.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        exactly binary trans people don’t have an inbetween identity (and would rather not have an inbetween body) so no surprise we stick to one side just like 99% of people

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And? We're not forcing you to have an in-between identity. The simple result of my viewpoints towards gender is that the perhaps 5% of people who can't really feel comfortable solidly in one side or the other, but can't feel comfortable being "non-binary", don't end up unhappily shoving themselves in one side or the other.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How I see your story in picrel is that it would benefit greatly from the latter example of gender-fluidity. The redditor's father, or parent altogether, is gender-fluid and has a feminine sexuality. He/she/they should be entirely comfortable expressing their gender. Just because they have a feminine sexuality, and enjoy expressing femininity in a sexual context - which is by all means a fetish - doesn't mean they need to transition nor fit strictly in with gender roles.

      >"approaching gender in a healthy, productive way"
      >"you don't get to be a woman, just be a feminine man"

      "gender critical" people all reduce to the same thing

      it's fine if someone wants to be genderfluid or whatever, but to try to rigorously dictate that other people be genderfluid in some weird fusion of postmodern hierarchical authoritarianism is hilarious

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Project harder
        Here's what you suggest
        >You display feminine tendencies.
        >Your identity is clearly not perfectly cis.
        >Therefore, you are a trans woman, and must perfectly align in (at best, almost) every single mental and physical capacity with cis AFAB women.
        Here's what I suggest
        >You display feminine tendencies.
        >Your identity is clearly not perfectly cis.
        >Therefore, you are a trans woman - but maybe not. You are free to express whatever gender you feel like, male or female, without judgement.
        I'm not the one being an authoritative force here, you are. You only see it as such because you personally are guilty of the matter. I didn't believe either of us were trying to dictate other's gender identity until you brought it up, just by the way.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure if it's the time and place to say it but I'm (very probably) a tranny and just simply do not understand the differences between masculinity and femininity. Like it all seems mostly arbitrary to me. I get that T and E influence behavior that can lean one way or another, and THAT is what is classified as Masc or Fem. But it still seems so stupid to me because of lot what is masc or fem would benefit from perspectives of the other side. It seems like so much of the world is built to reinforce what is m or f to the point that it deludes any significance it might of had.

      I dunno, maybe I'm just confused on how masc and fem relate to me personally. I know I would prefer a female body and 100% have dysphoria and dissociation that's kept me mentally locked away for years. I have a cooming problem but I know its mostly because I feel unlovable and want to imagine intimacy + teenage habits of coping with dissociation. Really don't know where I'm going with this other than now I'm finally on the edge of transitioning I'm filled with so much anxiety on if I'll ever have a future or not. And not understanding the differences between masculinity and femininity, wanted to take everything I want from both and just be "myself" without being one or the another, it's left me feeling confused and jaded.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any other fetishes where a significant number of the people that have it adamantly declare that their fetish doesn't exist? Agp seems unique in this regard.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    never forget

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love when he gets mad the only people who like his theory don’t understand his theory

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How will husstoids ever recover?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        By being the only socially accepted, truly feminine trans women, while AGPpedomoids keep publicly embarass themsleves?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >embarass
          *embarrassing themselves

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you really think reppers posting about agp really give a fuck about what Blanchard actually wrote?
      Do you really think HSTS, if they existed, would browse r/asktransgender/ and post their findings on /tttt/?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but even in my deepest repression phase I didn't believe in such dumb and already debunked things

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does agp cause dysphoria?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, when you fall in love with your woman-self and are heartbroken that she doesn't exist yet. It's a very powerful force. Men sacrifice themselves so that she might have a chance to live. Allosexuals call it "romance."

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t get it

    I have an amputee fetish but I don’t want to chop off my arms

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but is it an amputee fetish or an auto-amputee fetish? that's the difference between gynephilia, which most humans have, and autogynephilia, which not many have

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think it's different in any meaningful way from autosexuality, which cis women will admit to having. Also a lot of the science around the typology comes off as pseud shit.

        https://www.healthline.com/health/autosexual

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I self insert as the amputee.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have agp too? Blanchard said that one erotica target location error can sometimes indicate the occurrence of another.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Blanchard said that one erotica target location error can sometimes indicate the occurrence of another.
            sounds like Freudian bullshit if you ask me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you sometimes think about how being an amputee would allow you to express yourself properly and feel even worse after cooming to your favorite amputee porn?
      Because it's totally different if you don't

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the amputee equivalent of a transbian? An amputee and auto-amputee fetishist who cuts his legs off to gain acess to amputee spaces and get better access to amputees. Do the real amputees regard him as a faker in some sense because he did it voluntarily?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That doesn't exist because the barrier of entry is much higher for surgical amputation. Taking estrogen doesn't (realistically) do much for agp males

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got my penis amputated

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how does everyone just ignore the fact that only agps have dysphoria (because dysphoria is just progressed agp)
    like i feel like having dysphoria means youre actually agp for literally every tranny just shows how glaringly bunk it is

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Husstusses can get dysphoria too, not having a straight man's dick in your butt can be super emotionally traumatic

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >who I still call "Dad" at her insistence
    Based boomerhon dad (female(male)).

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's frustrating being someone who has read Blanchard's studies to see people throw around his terminology without knowing what it actually means

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this fetish is a bit heartbraking. i unironically become jealous when see attractive girls or trans-girls, also somewhat irritated when treated like a man too much :/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I threw away a perfectly good male life for this fetish. This fetish killed a man.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        please don't tell me that you pass well
        also idk, maybe you're dysphoric who uses agp as a copium. anecdotally speaking, some people are like this. they develop both agp and dyspho

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I had both agp and dysphoria. Trooning made both go away, the agp entirely and the dysphoria partially.

          I won't tell you that i pass but I live in a western European city so my efforts to appear female are respected and I am generally treated as such.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then you shouldn't talk like you threw away your male life solely for a fetish. this is simply not true

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I wouldn't have if it weren't for agp though. I could have just been a normal man and not spent all this time and effort and money turning myself into a simulacrum of something else.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it even ruining your life tbh?
    >it’s just a paraphilia!!
    Like, this is just saying it’s just sex. And to someone like me with a low drive for sexual or romantic relationships, okay I can feel that, but for most people, sex and the surrounding partnership are probably some of the most important things in their lives. If someone wants to present female or whatever, because the only way they can imagine themselves happy in a romantic relationship is to feel like a woman and the only way they can get off is to wear female clothes, idk, is it like really that much more effort than what some cishet guys do to get gfs? idk lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're forgetting that most AGPs are simply just cis men who will always have an impediment on their sexual relationships with women
      There are many stories of cis men who have to imagine themselves as being their sexual partner during sex in order to get hard
      It's a fucking disease
      You, simple, naive, innocent AGP got cursed with this burden as a child and you did nothing to deserve it
      For the rest of your life you have to deal with your sexuality being malformed and there's nothing you can do to truly cure yourself
      Yes you can displace it temporarily, allow your heterosexuality to come through but only momentarily
      Eventually it will come back meanwhile you're risking the development of gender dysphoria

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doesn’t that agree with what I’m saying lol, feels like this is a weird chat bot now

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly I only read a small part of long posts before I reply...
          tfw retarded

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh wait actually I did read your post but I misinterpreted it
            I thought you were saying that having AGP wasn't a big deal because you could just transition
            But upon reading it again it seems more you're saying that an AGP can just cross dress to 'feel like a woman'
            That's stupid still, I don't take back my reply

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That’s not what I’m saying at all. You need to work on this whole reading thing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for reading my post and telling me I didn't read your post right
                I'm too lazy to read your post again, hope you have a nice day

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                tldr sex matters a lot to most people, so people with a paraphilia finding an outlet for it doesn’t seem like a “life ruining” action nor a surprising one like the OP suggests

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            making long autism posts and not reading the long autism posts of others, the greatest sin

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sadism is a real sexual disorder. Why are we encouraging people to ruin others lives over it?
    fMRI reveals sadists experience increased sexual arousal when observing individuals in pain.
    So not only sadists are happy from your suffering, but also they're aroused by it. Hideous perverts.
    Sadists are responsible for the most despicable crimes. Sadists intentionally traumatize, even their own, children. Sadists rape and brutally murder. Without sadists, the world would be undeniably better, it's such a simple trick to vastly improve our life. Psychopaths show some usefulness for society, but you, sadists, are completely useless, you're just an ulcer. You're completely deranged perverts, /misc/ and kiwi.
    Sadism is NOT valid. Kids showing sadistic behavior should be promptly institutionalized.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if i crossdress or troon as agp i'd feel like pervert, not woman

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crossdressing is enough for me. It feels really good to wear a bra and panties under androgynous clothes and get away with it, especially while standing really close to people. I enjoy pushing the boundaries of what I can get away with around my friends. If there's a difference between AGP and fetishistic crossdressing, I guess I am it.

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