So say I am at a bar and see a girl I want to talk to, or she starts talking to me, can I leave my group and hangout with her?
That is what I'm supposed to do right?
That...makes more sense. I presume you know your brother well enough to know whether or not he'd be put off by you wandering away without saying anything?
In most groups, if it's not a special event, yes. But you don't leave the bar without letting your group know. Often just a quick text will do.
You don't want them wondering where you went or waiting on you.
With women, it's often the opposite where one can be singled off from the herd but the others will eventually come collect her, leaving no drunken barslut behind!
>Bad social skills >No close friends ever >Not extroverted enough for friends >3 years in college and still no friends >8 inch cock, but that's way too big for most girls, so no sex appeal whatsoever
Why should I have any motivation to do anything if my improvements are meaningless? I go to the gym and run 5 days and for what? So that I and only I know that I wasted my time and my youth maintaining health? Most Americans are fat asses and still have girlfriends and wives so what's the use? The only reason I even go is because I don't have any worthwhile hobbies and no friends to hang out with. It's borderline a bad habit and mental illness at this point. I literally don't have any reason to go but go anyway because I'm stupid. It's not fun anymore and no one's gonna noticed any gains I make since I'm so tall.
>"But but but you're tall they want tall guys"
Midwit, your hight and looks are meaningless if you have a stale personality. The chads you drool over usually have extroverted personalities that can entertain people. Most of those do not have that so please stop falling for the "just be tall" meme
What do you actually want out of life?
What is the one goal you have above all else?
Figure that out and devote your every action towards that goal, no matter how impossible it is.
Working towards failing to achieve your goal is infinitely more fulfilling than nothing.
Eh, fitness is good for your health and that, maybe you can tone it down a bit but you shouldn't stop completely. Maybe find some other hobbies too to give you more fulfilment. Also maybe see a therapist too cause sounds like you have some depression/defeatism and are isolated
How does this translate into being good enough to get a girl? What you should just seems like pointless distractions to force myself to forget how much of a shitty human I am. I guarantee both of you have either already been swimming in women or are already married or both. It's always THOSE guys that downplay how important getting a girl is.
You're like me when I used to get angry at the advice "you can't truly love someone else if you don't love yourself". You only understand the advice once you're out of the shitty mindset.
The girl part is irrelevant for now, fitness is just good for your health, if you care about that. >how much of a shitty human I am
Why do you think you're a shitty person? >both of you have either already been swimming in women or are already married or both
I'm kissless at 25 lol, all my dating attempts crashed and burned (actual swimming is a great hobby though, I miss it sometimes)
>The girl part is irrelevant for now,
For what? Because you say so? I'm 21 and not having a relationship ever is objectively fucking weird. My mom occasionally asked me why I don't have a goddamn girlfriend and it sends me into a depressive mood whenever she asks. I'm starting to think she does it as a sort of way to mock me because she knows she's the one who raised me to never be good enough for one and likes making other people miserable
>Why do you think you're a shitty person?
Not a single best friend since like second grade. Black, so that automatically knocks me down a few pegs in the attractiveness and desirability category (ESPECIALLY to western modern black women, funnily enough). Virgin, which means no experience and most women won't do it with experience. Imagine being so worthless that you can't even please your girlfriend correctly. Me liking experience might be appealing to another virgin female But what if she isn't? She will be accustomed to guys that already have experience and then she'll be stuck with me who Will probably be nervous. You should have gotten over being nervous by the time you were 18 at the very latest.
I don't give two shits about my measly little health if I'll be alone and constantly contemplating suicide. The fattest ugliest people alive can still have girlfriends. The people with ugly personalities can still get girlfriends. Me? I don't fucking have a personality. I'm sure this is the part where you ignore everything I say because you have no counter argument, or get needlessly angry at me, right? That's how it always goes
>I guarantee both of you have either already been swimming in women or are already married or both. It's always THOSE guys that downplay how important getting a girl is.
And what of those of us who never gave a shit about muh females, don't give a shit about muh females, fucked a female anyway to see what the fuss was about and still don't see why you give so much of a shit?
Why is your entire world comprised of excuses for your miserable worldview?
>It's always THOSE guys that downplay how important getting a girl is.
I ain't downplaying SHIT mothertrucker.
I was addressing the damn question: >Why should I have any motivation to do anything if my improvements are meaningless?
Why are they meaningless?
>How does this translate into being good enough to get a girl?
Why is getting a girl so damn important?
If you can't answer it, you have a problem.
Now you son of a bitch, answer the questions: >What do you actually want out of life? >What is the one goal you have above all else?
If you haven't figured yourself out, you aren't going to find motivation to do jack shit. You're just going to wonder why being healthy doesn't make you more charming and pick your navel as you sink into depression.
What do you want and why?
>inb4 Chad gets girls without self reflection!
Good for him. We're talking about you.
>Why are they meaningless?
What has it got in me? I don't even look that much stronger if at all. I'm still alone. Still friendless. It's a waste of time
>Why is getting a girl so damn important?
Is that important to you anymore because you've already had tons of girls. I've read enough of your posts to know that you were one of the "shy" guys that still got girls because he was charming. As to why I care, why the actual fuck shouldn't I care? YOU cared at some point or else you wouldn't have even bothered trying to get girls in the first place. You're supposed to want companionship, especially from females.
>>What do you actually want out of life?
Companionship (I thought I've made that abundantly clear). A job that can allow me to live comfortably, whether that be alone or with a wife. Friends. General happiness. You know, the sbit normies like you love and take for granted but get ass blasted when people like me want it.
>What has it got in me? I don't even look that much stronger if at all. I'm still alone. Still friendless.
So you believed that by doing it you would look much stronger and therefore not be alone and have friends? How dud you imagine that was going to work?
When we put energy into things, we should have an idea of what success will look like and how the effort could lead to it.
The plan should never be:
1. Work out
2. Look stronger
3. ????
4. Not be alone and have friends
For the record, being physically healthy pretty much facilitates any other life goal. It's always a good idea. But it's not sufficient. Being healthy helps you bang supermodels but won't achieve it on its own.
>you were one of the "shy" guys that still got girls because he was charming.
*Eventually* got girls because I taught myself social skills through practice and failure. Significant difference.
And why is getting a girl so damn important? >why the actual fuck shouldn't I care?
"Why not?" isn't a reason to care about something on this level.
>YOU cared
I know. I still do. What's more, I know WHY I care. I'm not saying that you shouldn't care. I'm asking: WHY DO YOU CARE?
Answer the question. Think about for more than a second.
>Companionship >job that can allow me to live comfortably >Friends
These are good answers. If you had to trade all of the rest but be guaranteed one, which one would it be and why?
>General happiness
What does this mean to you? Happiness is a moment of emotion, not an achievement.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Happiness is a moment of emotion, not an achievement.
Is it of you haven't felt it since you were a naive dumb child. That didn't realize how worthless he was.
>If you had to trade all of the rest but be guaranteed one, which one would it be and why?
Companionship. Lacking it eats away at my soul. I have an online friend who is acquainted with millionaires or even billionaires come up and he always tells me stories of how even rich people commit suicide for various reasons, with loneliness being one of the most common reasons, so before you tell me "dumb fuck you were supposed to pick the good job route", keep that in mind.
1 week ago
MKG
>not an achievement. >Is it of you haven't felt it since
I was worried that you would misunderstand that. I mean that happiness isn't a state that a person achieves and maintains, like "I am happy now." Happiness comes in moments and passes. It isn't a mat that sits on your doorstep or a trophy that sits on your shelf.
>Companionship
Okay. Excellent. Now what is involved in having companionship? Is it looking stronger? Is it having a good job? Is it cup stacking?
Those can help. But the primary element involved in having companionship is being enjoyable to be with by people you can be with. This means being near people and being perceived as enjoyable to be with by those people. Ideally, you'd want to be with people you enjoy being around.
The task becomes identifying the kinds (multiple) of people you enjoy being around and determining the traits that they enjoy being around. This might require experimentation and getting out of your comfort zone.
Do you you have any thoughts about that?
>inb4 all people only ever want to be around gorgeous and exciting billionaires
Sure. That's why they kill themselves.
People are not homogeneous and nobody just likes one thing. Think.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Do you you have any thoughts about that?
I don't know where to start. I tried reaching out more by trying new places to hang at but all 3 attempts (at three different environments) failed.
1 week ago
MKG
Failure is part of the process. Technically, I failed for a decade but I developed alcoholism and financial issues at the same time I learned *most* of this.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm 21. What else should I try? I tried a dnd shop, coding club, and the gaming room at my university. I feel like a fish out of water in all three places. ESPECIALLY the dnd place.
1 week ago
MKG
>I feel like a fish out of water in all three places. ESPECIALLY the dnd place.
I've literally "fit in" any place I have ever been. It's about the people. Spending time with people. Learning what you like and dislike about people and what they like and dislike about me.
I once met a girl who hated me because of my shoes and I thought was wonderful because I learned what a shallow thot was and was delighted that I repelled her. I learned which kinds of nerds I enjoy and which annoy me. I learned that I love to dance most people I meet dancing aren't don't share m as ny other interests with me so I am happy to dance alone.
I explore new interests when given a chance. I am hit and miss with cooking and with people who are into it.
I tried volunteering. It wasn't for me but I met a few cool people who invited me to Native American concert. I go to concerts with friends far more into the music than me.
Find and make excuses to spend time with people. And don't start by looking for your companion. Just learn about people, hope you get lucky, and expect disappointment.
I reached out repeatedly expecting rejection. Rejection was actually my goal because I spent so much time holding back.
Eventually, I reached out with the goal of getting rejected and got a gf instead. It was literally like walking forward, expecting to fall off the cliff, and just continuing forward. I was in brand new territory without a clue so I just kept trying and expecting failure only to be surprised.
Then I learned how much I never knew.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Failure is part of the process.
How am I supposed to use that to help me when im less of a human being fir bkt having something as simple as a girlfriend by 21? It's impossible for any sane man to not hate himself because of this.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>im less of a human being fir bkt having something as simple as a girlfriend by 21? It's impossible for any sane man to not hate himself because of this.
But you don't hate yourself because you don't have a gf, you just hate yourself. Maybe you don't admit it to yourself, but you really want a gf because you think if someone can love you, you'll be permitted to love yourself, but it doesn't work like that. People aren't attracted to misery, bitterness, or desperation. They want someone who can support themself. You have to work on yourself more man
I know because I'm like you, I just wish I made sense eof it sooner
1 week ago
Anonymous
>But you don't hate yourself because you don't have a gf, you just hate yourself.
What makes you certain of that?
1 week ago
Anonymous
OK, if you genuinely hate yourself solely because you don't have a girlfriend then that just makes you a whiny homosexual.
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's being unworthy of abt friends and companionship that causes it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
And who determines that worth?
>you just hate yourself.
And I hate myself becauuuuuse?
Idk, sounds like a question to ask yourself
1 week ago
Anonymous
>And who determines that worth?
No friends, gfs, likable qualies, status (you guys obsess over this even more that normies) = why the fuck do you even exist?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>No likable qualities/ status
Both are controlled by you, friends and relationships are derivative of being a pleasant or interesting person to be around. >(you guys obsess over this even more that normies)
Evidently not as much as you. Touch grass
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Touch grass >Nothing happens
>friends and relationships are derivative of being a pleasant or interesting person to be around.
I don't know how to do that
1 week ago
Anonymous
NTA, but 'touch grass' is a shitty way of saying you should go outside more, talk to people, get off the computer, etc.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Already did
>Do you you have any thoughts about that?
I don't know where to start. I tried reaching out more by trying new places to hang at but all 3 attempts (at three different environments) failed.
. It was a worthless effort and always will be because nothing I try leads to anything meaningful
1 week ago
Anonymous
>3 attempts
Come back after 300
1 week ago
Anonymous
>It was a worthless effort and always will be because nothing I try leads to anything meaningful
Well, yeah, it will be with that attitude.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Attitude is meaningless. Either it works or it doesn't
>I've touched grass, I swear! >21
Just stop. You're a terminally online college student with a limited scope of the world around himself. Go get a real job, do something cool. Anything other than the innate bullshit you're doing now, because clearly that's not good enough for you. Do peace corps, volunteer, find something and get passionate about it; do anything! Just stop crying on the internet like a baby because you're too lazy and unmotivated to better your life
>3 attempts
Come back after 300
The fact I bothered to go to new places is evidence I tried and wanted to try. A normie like you would've succeed on the first try with no effort. Why do people like me have to try hundreds of times while you just have to exist?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>normie like you
Bitch I have been depressed for 15 years and am diagnosed with a handful of shit including anxiety and a personality disorder. If I can do it so can you. I have learned how to make my oddness appealing to normies. It takes practice. More than 3 tries.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>If I can do it so can you. I have learned how to make my oddness appealing to normies.
Even with your hostility you underestimate my stupidity and social retardation. If it were anywhere near as easy as you say it is do you think I'd be here? I tried the dopey class clown thing in school and that just repelled people even more. Whatever you're doing I'm do dumb to figure out on my own. You may be a sperg but at least you're intelligent enough to somehow turn that into an attractive trait.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>A normie like you would've succeed on the first try with no effort
nagger I'm 24 and I've never had a gf.
I joined the military, I've finished school, I've gone to parties, go out with friends, and I have my own my own hobbies. It's a lot more than joining 3 shitty clubs in uni and calling it quits. You're just a bitch
1 week ago
Anonymous
>I've touched grass, I swear! >21
Just stop. You're a terminally online college student with a limited scope of the world around himself. Go get a real job, do something cool. Anything other than the innate bullshit you're doing now, because clearly that's not good enough for you. Do peace corps, volunteer, find something and get passionate about it; do anything! Just stop crying on the internet like a baby because you're too lazy and unmotivated to better your life
1 week ago
Anonymous
>go wageslave >better yet go actualslave for free
kys
1 week ago
Anonymous
Your refusal to express positive self esteem is part of why you're unworthy. You refuse to change. The fault lies partially with your stubborn addiction to feeling bad.
You aren't wrong - you genuinely are unlikeable. But only because you work really hard at being a beacon of misery.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Your refusal to express positive self esteem is part of why you're unworthy.
I have literally nothing to feel good about though. Friends have repeatedly asked me to list reasons why I should ~~*love myself*~~ and I cannot tell them for the life of me. THEY can't really list anything either or else they'd just flat out tell me why I'm supposedly not walking filth.
>You refuse to change.
Oh yes, going out of my way to hang out with complete strangers and force myself into a hobby I don't even like is The shining example of refusing to change. Working out to maintain my health knowing it will never get anyone to like me is not wanting to change and improve. Asking people how to unfuck the utter failure of a human I am is not wanting to change. Because people who ask for help NEVER wanna change. My bad.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You breathe
You eat
You sleep
You know English
You post opinions on LULZ
You agree with yourself
Having self esteem is ez if you want to. But you people legit refuse to be happy about having opinions that you like, and I don't know why.
1 week ago
Anonymous
What reason do I have to like myself?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>and I don't know why.
You have a relatively easy life for you naively speak to other people as if you think getting rid of negative thoughts it's just as easy as just not doing it. You've never struggled with anything in your life. You're like a rich fag teenager (that the parents that actually did shit to earn the wealth, the entitled child that did nothing) telling an impoverished person "just get a job and you'll be like me its that ez"
1 week ago
Anonymous
Bruh cmon my life has been constant conflict with idiots who refuse to become correct.
I choose to find worth and value in that, but you can't claim I get it for free.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>become correct.
Oh Lord you're the "just turn off your brain bro" idiot aren't you? You're the only dumbass that talks like this. I don't know to ignore anything you specifically say. Arrogant waist of life that lust to pretend he has everything figured out
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm more deserving than you are, homosexual. I actually have self esteem, unlike you.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Child fuckers have self esteem too, anon. Feeling good about yourself for being mediocre is nothing to brag about
You refuse to accept the reasons I listed. You are both insane and bigoted.
No one is obligated to accept anything you say just as you were not obligated to accept anything I say. The fact you keep saying they should implies you're more concerned with appearing correct and winning an argument than actually helping anybody. Typical dishonest sperg behavior.
Knowing how to tie shoes is a great reason to like yourself.
You refuse to. You LARP that you can't, but in reality you don't want to.
Why are you so content with mediocrity? Why not want more for yourself? "I like myself the way i am" is not always a good mindset. You're basically preaching " there's no point in change or improve. Being filth is ok I don't have to fix anything" with extra pseud steps.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Feeling good about yourself for being mediocre is nothing to brag about
In a vacuum I'd agree with you but the people here suck so much ass at happiness that my basic mid ass is the biggest fish in this small pond.
>
You refuse to accept the reasons I listed. You are both insane and bigoted.
(You) # >The fact you keep saying they should implies you're more concerned with appearing correct than actually helping anybody
I care about clashing with delusions. I know damn well I can't make you people show worth and value in the words I send you, so I don't try. I just accept you won't agree and I enjoy that clash. >Typical dishonest sperg behavior.
In what way is it dishonest to talk shit about your delusions because I enjoy talking shit about your delusions?
>Why are you so content with mediocrity?
I'm me and I like me. Plus, I don't judge myself as mediocre, I judge myself as awesome because I agree with all the stuff I agree with.
If I was gonna doubt my worth, it'd be because I don't murder people, or act on my animosity towards fools in a way that solves them. But eh, I'm too lazy or comfort-attached to be a murderer, and I'm cool with that.
I would NOT value social integration because I don't agree with you! >Why not want more for yourself?
Because I don't care. >You're basically preaching " there's no point in change or improve. Being filth is ok I don't have to fix anything"
Same thing you preach, except for a society as a whole.
Yeah I'm lazy, but if your peer group collectively has dumb emotions, then why the fuck would you conform and make yourself worse?
I know I'm mid.
But compared to some of the dumbfucks that make up your world, my only sin is that I'm not MORE oppositional.
1 week ago
Anonymous
But sure. I'm too autistic to believe in your feel sad excuses and that is a privilege you do not share.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>You know English
????
And?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Nta but it's pretty much the bar for living in a globally relevant country. It's a litmus test for living in a place people want to live in.
1 week ago
Anonymous
So he's an envious foreigner who thinks merely knowing English will somehow make his life a hundred times better?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Damn you're stupid.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You apparently think merely no one English is something to be proud of. It's the number one goddamn language on planet Earth. It's not exactly a big accomplishment. No foreign nation I've ever been to had a shortage of English speakers. That's like telling me I should feel good about knowing how to tie my shoes
1 week ago
Anonymous
Way to miss the point entirely, dipshit. Stay mad.
1 week ago
Anonymous
But sure. I'm too autistic to believe in your feel sad excuses and that is a privilege you do not share.
A meager accomplishment such as knowing English is nothing to be proud of unless you start at learning at a very late age or as a hobby. Most foreigners start learning and our fluent by the time they're like five. If you think you should be proud of that it's no wonder you have such a low standards for yourself and others.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>seething so hard he can't type and STILL missing the point
kek
1 week ago
Anonymous
Knowing how to tie shoes is a great reason to like yourself.
You refuse to. You LARP that you can't, but in reality you don't want to.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Like, are you going to be the second person I know to think
"Yeah, I have opinions I agree with. That's cool. I like that."?
Are you gonna like yourself for eating slerping and memeing because they feel good, and being cool with feeling good is based?
Are you going to value liking the things you like, disliking the things you like, because they're part of how you feel, and you support how you feel?
No, you're gonna be a dipshit and refuse to, because it doesn't meet your arbitrary made up standards of what "counts" for self esteem.
And that is how it's a choice. Rather than opting to feel good about yourself for any of the stuff you do, you decide that the only valid reasons to have self esteem are ~~*co-incidentally*~~ the things you lack.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>like yourself for eating slerping and memeing because they feel good,
You might as well say I should ~~*love myself*~~ and others should live me for breathing. Your standards for why people should love themselves are abysmally low. Do you have ANY standards for yourself or others?
>I'm alobe because of my unworthiness. I cannot fathom why that still hasn't clicked within your thick skull.
Because I disagree with you. Your lack of worth is an opinion that you choose to believe in.
It's obvious you're just a dishonest sperg. I'm talking to a brick wall
>Rather than opting to feel good about yourself for any of the stuff you do,
Nothing I do is worth feeling good about it I'm still a virgin loner.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Do you have ANY standards for yourself or others?
Yes, I don't copy your delusions of misery. I am not a part of your habitual lies. That is a standard.
1 week ago
Anonymous
But sure.
You notice that I choose my standards based on who I am and what I do?
If not, now you're aware.
You on the other hand choose your standards based on things you fail at and lack.
I understand why you make that choice, because misery is an excuse for laziness and denial of action.
But it's as much of a choice as my standards are. And if I choose standards that fit who I am, you could too.
I do not agree with your feel sad bullshit.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>you just hate yourself.
And I hate myself becauuuuuse?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Because misery gives you an excuse to not even try to change your situation. You can act like it's someone else's fault and get out of all the work that comes with being proud of yourself.
It's how it always is. Bad shit happens, and instead of replacing it with good shit (which takes effort), people just stay sad and use their sadness to be demotivated / defer to others.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>You can act like it's someone else's fault
That's how I know you're being a cunt because no one blamed other people. My ineptitude is my own failure as a human. I blamed no one else.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I made a shit assumption again didn't I.
Ah well such is life. Yes, I was wrong.
1 week ago
Anonymous
But if you don't like being inept you should git gud.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I don't have the skills to "git gud". You're supposed to learn that by your teenage years. Instead anyone I'll try to interact with will not want to be friends with me because I'm not a super extrovert and they'll know I'm behind developmentally just by looking at me. You've all seen and been around THAT guy before so you know what I'm talking about
>What was your excuse for being a failure then?
Nobody excused me nor called me a failure, Anon McLoadedquestion
I didn't obtain a gf because I lacked social skills and as I developed them, I had less time and opportunity to utilize them.
How do you not hate yourself for STILL being behind? You missed the school bus and had to run to school
1 week ago
MKG
>How do you not hate yourself for STILL being behind?
Don't waste your time on jealousy
Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind
The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself
Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't
Maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't
Maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the 'Funky Chicken'
On your 75th wedding anniversary
Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much
Or berate yourself either
Your choices are half chance, so are everybody else's.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I am that guy, I simply love myself because I want to.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You need a reason to or else you're insane
1 week ago
Anonymous
You refuse to accept the reasons I listed. You are both insane and bigoted.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Other people determine every single outcome in your life. The only thing you have control over are words you say to them, when you jerk off, and when and if you kill yourself.
1 week ago
Anonymous
They don't determine how I feel about myself and my life.
They don't determine which groups I care about associating with and how I opt to associate.
They don't control if I'm pleasant or defiant.
And when I'm defiant, I sometimes win.
Your loser bullshit is not real.
1 week ago
Anonymous
They dont control your attitude? Thats not pussy, money, shelter, food. Your attitude is immaterial and worth 0.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Your attitude is immaterial and worth 0.
Correct, so I choose to love myself and my life because ain't nothin' stopping me.
I get food and shelter from autismbux and I never saw the point in 3d pussy.
My basic needs are all met and I have progressed to self actualisation, which I do by telling you that you're a delusional shit cunt in ways you REALLY should be smart enough to learn from, but aren't.
And shit, if I had to live a life where I'm either mugging old people or in jail because money ain't free and people won't value the work I could do with them, so be it! It won't be the most comfortable life but I'll still like myself for living it, as brief as it would be.
Basically, all your feel sad crap? Doesn't apply.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Like, you are aware that you don't HAVE to value social integration, yes? You can value clashing with people too.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You aren't sane
Your standards for "real human" are an excuse you invented because you want to be sad
You are miserable because you choose to be
1 week ago
Anonymous
My lack of friends causes misery
1 week ago
Anonymous
Full of shit. You choose to be alone because you see yourself as unworthy. Loneliness exists because it feeds your biases.
1 week ago
MKG
>im less of a human being fir bkt having something as simple as a girlfriend by 21?
I'm less than a human? Cool beans! I get be a demihuman! Maybe a kobold!
1 week ago
Anonymous
8 >I'm less than a human?
IM the abnormal one. Why are y'all putting words in my mouth?
1 week ago
MKG
That was my cute little way of saying that I sure as fuck didn't have a gf before 21.
Eh, fitness is good for your health and that, maybe you can tone it down a bit but you shouldn't stop completely. Maybe find some other hobbies too to give you more fulfilment. Also maybe see a therapist too cause sounds like you have some depression/defeatism and are isolated
>Why should I have any motivation to do anything if my improvements are meaningless?
Because someone similar to you in this situation would change or mitigate the things that suck about them, formulate a successful strategy and act on it.
And evolution, being the blind watchmaker that she is, gave those same sensations to most people, since most of us can act on them and evolution doesn't care about unsuccessful outliers.
I'm trying my hardest to apply your incel mental gymnastics to it and I cannot for the life of me figure out how what she said and what she did is somehow even remotely cruel...... People like you give me hope 🙂
Why don't you explain to the class why she's being cruel?
>In B4 "nuh uhh if you can't figure it out yourself you're a retard" cop out
That's how women insult men like that
My nagger in Christ I'm pretty black-pilled and I genuinely cannot comprehend how that's cruel. Y'all are acting like she put him on blast on her Instagram or something.
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She's basically lowkey whining about how bad at sex he is and how it's frustrating to her that he's so inexperienced. She's never going to outright say it because that's "mean" but she also wouldn't be asking for "advice" if it wasn't bothering her. It's like when a girl starts asking her male friend for "relationship advice" when really she's just signalling she might be available.
It doesn't seem like she's regretting it, just probably feeling bad about being able to comfort him herself. You can feel a little lost without wanting to give up and ditch the person, most sane people are going to try to work through it before jumping ship.
>most sane people are going to try to work through it before jumping ship.
Most people aren't sane these days. It's already clearly a sore point and will probably get worse the more conscious she is of the experience gap. Complaining about it is the first sign of bad new.
You're missing a really important piece of context: lots of women get incredibly self conscious if their guy doesn't finish. I've had an ex start bawling because she couldn't get me off.
>lots of women get incredibly self conscious if their guy doesn't finish
Yet another reason she'll probably get sick of him
I think she's venting, not complaining. You're allowed to talk about your relationship troubles, especially if you intend to try to solve them like she is. Talking things out is how they get solved.
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>I think she's venting, not complaining
Venting, complaining, who cares. The minute she starts vocalizing her issues to a third party is the start of the countdown. She's going to get more and more fed up with this virgin loser until some girl she's friends with tells her she can do better and he's probably just a porn addict and she remembers "oh yeah, i've already fucked 6 guys! I CAN do better!" and she monkey branches away. Seen it happen a million times.
You're missing a really important piece of context: lots of women get incredibly self conscious if their guy doesn't finish. I've had an ex start bawling because she couldn't get me off.
Well because of all the jokes about men finishing too quickly, or cumming just by looking at you. We get it in our heads that if we can’t get a man to orgasm, it’s a failure within us. Even though that’s something fairly common and something that happens for infinite reasons
I've found guys tend to be more uncomfortable about it. My bf used to apologize so much when he couldn't finish, and my friends have shared similar stories about their men. But regardless of gender, it's not something to worry about. Sex is fun! Have fun!
>and my friends have shared similar stories about their men
why do women talk about their men's sex lives so much
men don't do this
1 week ago
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Within two days of knowing a guy, he shared with me that he had tried taking a video of his tinder date giving him head but she caught him and made him delete the video
Yes, men do this too
1 week ago
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he was probably just gonna jack off to it
I'm not talking about his sex life, I'm talking about mine. Which does include him, yeah, since he's who I'm fucking. But still, we're talking about our own sex lives. Maybe guys don't do that either - I wouldn't know what guys talk about with no girls around, would I?
girls tell their friends the make and model of their bf's cock and how long he lasts and what position he cums hardest in
i have never had sex-having friends bring up their gf's pussy
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Both men and women overshare about their sex lives and the sex lives of their partners. And the fact that you just dismissed filming a woman in a sexual act without her consent makes it really weird you’re trying to have the moral highground on anything relating to these issues, creep
1 week ago
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i'm not "dismissing" it i'm saying i doubt he was going to go show his mates that some thot was sucking his dick
1 week ago
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I'm not talking about his sex life, I'm talking about mine. Which does include him, yeah, since he's who I'm fucking. But still, we're talking about our own sex lives. Maybe guys don't do that either - I wouldn't know what guys talk about with no girls around, would I?
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Because your aversion to sex talk is not justified and your projected feelings of shame are not real.
I’m assuming it was a jab at her not being a virgin
As if the majority of the men here wouldn’t be a ran through diseased pest if they had enough women willing to sleep with them
They’re forgetting about the “in” part in incel
They have no reason to talk to me. Whenever I do talk to them they comment about how I'm sweet and kind and tall or some shit as if it actually matters.
>not because you're ugly.
No one mentioned being ugly. Stop projecting. The ugliest creatures imaginable can get relationships if they have the right personality and stuff to offer people.
>Could be anxiety. If you like her give her another chance.
She has always seemed socially anxious, but I've given her plenty of chances. Fuck it I'll tell her what's up because I do think she's very special
No. If you do something creepy I'll assume you're a creep until proven otherwise but if I see some guy on the sidewalk I don't automatically assume he's an awful person. He's just a guy.
Sorry kid I haven't been a teen in a decade I have no idea what people your age are up to. My sister that's your age spends most of her time playing videogames and watching tiktoks. I don't think most of them go out very much.
No.
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Second option. Just say hi and chitchat for a minute and let her make the call. She said she wants to take it slow so don't do anything that could be perceived as pushy. She'll get scared.
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Good luck out there
I got a girls number and we've been talking for almost a week. I asked her out a couple days ago and she said shes interested but wants to take it slow. I met her at her work and I go there occasionally to do remote work or study, but haven't since we've started texting. Should I visit and ask if she wants to hang on her break? Or just be there and say hi and hope she suggests it?
Second option. Just say hi and chitchat for a minute and let her make the call. She said she wants to take it slow so don't do anything that could be perceived as pushy. She'll get scared.
>Second option
Ok I'll do that, I was thinking tomorrow but maybe next week might be better. She's very inquisitive about me and we talk quite a bit so if imagine she's getting close to being comfortable.
Femanons, I slept with 3 prostitutes when I was 19 because I was a complete degenerate. Since then, I've changed a lot and I have deep regrets for what I did... Now I actually am very conservative about sex to compensate for what I did. I really really regret what I did and I hope that someday I can marry someone who will forgive me for what I did. I'm really ready to do anything to prove I'm very sorry for my mistake and that it won't happen ever again. I'm afraid I won't find a good woman to settle with if she knows I slept with prostitutes... Femanons, what do you think??
Did you catch anything? That would be my worry
Do girls feel void between legs when horny? Or need to be "filled"?
I'm just wondering here
Yeah it kinds feels like butterflies and an empty feeling
So my GF dumped me a couple weeks ago because she thought I was not good enough at reading her non verbal communication and was too clingy. She was weird about it though, she avoided eye contact a lot during this conversation and then she ditched a lot of obligations to create space between us. I got the feeling there was more to it. I haven't interacted with her since.
Recently however, she has started lightly interacting on social media (reacting to posts, group messages etc). Opinions on what I should do, should I just continue ignoring her? I don't deny that my heart wants her still, but I also am not sure I should wound myself further by trying.
I'd delete her from any social media and cut contact
To women
would you consider creepy if guy is training himself for sex? Most likely training for sex with you if you're dating.
What does this mean
So Femanons, I'm curious. What's y'all's hypothesis as to why the tabletop gaming scene is so male-dominated?
I actually think its in part because men and women struggle to be friends without any sexual undertone, and it's just easier for men to be friends and do activities together without feelings being involved making the situation weird.
I was more leaning towards a girl enters a group for dnd, one guy gets a crush and makes it weird so she has to leave.
Some men within the scene are attractive
No, I didn't, I got checked several times to make sure I was clean. Good to know that would be your worry (implying there aren't other ones)
If I liked you, it would be something that gives me pause but not enough to ditch you immediately
>Yes
haha... I was just joking...
You got your answer anyway
>Did you catch anything? That would be my worry
nta but sleeping with prozzies (at least where it's legal) is statistically safer than club thots
not that I advocate it
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I'm moving
$100 prostitute who doesn't have checks in place vs $1000 prostitute that has constant check ups
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>$1000 prostitute
christ, does she have gold encrusted boobs or something?
1 week ago
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She's probably 17.
NTA
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Depends on your area. They can be supermodel tier
Girls, you do use BPA-free dildoes, right?
I don't insert dildos, they're all too hard
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The US is one of the most expensive places in the world for prostitution outside of Dubai or something. Even fat disgusting uggos command $300+ an hour nowadays. An actual 10/10 who was a cheerleader or IG model or something? Yeah, $1000, actually more like $1500.
>Did you catch anything? That would be my worry
nta but sleeping with prozzies (at least where it's legal) is statistically safer than club thots
not that I advocate it
ta, yeah, I think the same way. At least a literal whore is aware of the danger she's in and takes some precautions. Sluts will fuck anything that moves while taking 0 care of themselves, so they're more dangerous health-wise than a literal prostitute. I have never fucked one of those, fortunately
I got a girls number and we've been talking for almost a week. I asked her out a couple days ago and she said shes interested but wants to take it slow. I met her at her work and I go there occasionally to do remote work or study, but haven't since we've started texting. Should I visit and ask if she wants to hang on her break? Or just be there and say hi and hope she suggests it?
>she said shes interested but wants to take it slow
That means "You're option B and I'm not actually going to like you but I'll string you along for attention".
Why is that men's apparent lack of empathy only important when guys don't want to listen to female sob stories. do you females really think charities and fundraising for the needy and so on is based on fairy dust ? kek
Femanons, I slept with 3 prostitutes when I was 19 because I was a complete degenerate. Since then, I've changed a lot and I have deep regrets for what I did... Now I actually am very conservative about sex to compensate for what I did. I really really regret what I did and I hope that someday I can marry someone who will forgive me for what I did. I'm really ready to do anything to prove I'm very sorry for my mistake and that it won't happen ever again. I'm afraid I won't find a good woman to settle with if she knows I slept with prostitutes... Femanons, what do you think??
>Femanons, what do you think?
You have severe mental illness
A refusal to be comfortable with yourself
Guilt out of sync with reality
And you're trying to use a woman as your comfort doll to cope with a problem that only exists because you refuse to solve it
I hope for the sake of that woman that you remain alone.
What problem? Yes, I feel guilty about the bad things I've done in my past, I think that's good. I don't think the amount of guilt I have is mental illness
So I was wondering how to become more assertive in sexual situations. Also How can I tell if a girl is into me outside of her kissing me? Also how do I be less passive when kissing?
I find it really hard to read body language and indications. I feel like I can't make a move on a girl because if she is talking to me I just think "Oh shes just being nice". I only realise that they like me by making out with me and even then I find it very difficult to go further like groping tits or whatever.
One time a girl started kissing me and I was extremely passive and she just started grabbing my neck, lightly choking me and grinding her knee against my crotch. She even started sucking my tongue as in grabbing my cheeks and saying for me to stick out my tongue and started sucking it and I just let her do it.
I am a virgin in my mid-20s if that helps
If you can't understand body language when you see it no advice through text is going to help you. >I just let her do it
That's far past when you should have been reciprocating. She was very bold. If I don't get a signal that he likes what I'm doing I back off. As a rule of thumb if she escalates you should escalate back. Example, if she's got her knee in your crotch and your tongue in her mouth I'd say it's fair to go for some under the shirt boob action.
I mean I did find it hot that she did that though I suppose it was also because she was taller than me and was a goth chick.
See its just when I do think they may be into me I have to ask her if she wants to kiss like I'm in kindergarten.
Like I dunno how to initiate kissing without getting the vibe wrong or asking her if she wants to kiss which I imagine a girl doesnt like to hear
>One time a girl started kissing me and I was extremely passive and she just started grabbing my neck, lightly choking me and grinding her knee against my crotch. She even started sucking my tongue as in grabbing my cheeks and saying for me to stick out my tongue and started sucking it and I just let her do it.
You're a natural sub. Don't take it as an insult, subby boys are cute
There's a difference between being inexperienced and literally letting a girl take total control by grinding her knee on your dick, grabbing your face and tellling you to stick out her tongue so she can suck it. Even instinctually you would have taken control of the makeout session.
You're a bottom and theres nothing wrong with that
I have a gf with a praise/degradation kink. What can I do to praise/degrade her?
Also what can I do physically/mentally to get her really horny and tease her about being horny?
Does it make you horny if i were to put my hand on your hips/thighs and slowly move my hands to your pussy, rubbing you through your panties and slowly escalate from there?
Not easily. But it can. If I tense my muscles (do a kegel) it can suck water in. Or if I was to jump into a pool doing a split it might be unpleasant lol.
Okay, prominent fa/tg/uy (but not actually fat) still in his teens. How do I make a move on a girl I'm interested in (I've gotten the whole making friends thing down)
Then there's nothing you can do to make her say yes
>do a kegel
Hot. >doing a split
Like, a real split? With legs apart? Not sure how it looks like.
I was thinking middle split. Middle split is legs out to the side, front split is one leg in front one behind.
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>Then there's nothing you can do to make her say yes
I'm aware. Am more worried about botching a potential friendship
1 week ago
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>Am more worried about botching a potential friendship
That has a lot more to do with whether or not she's comfortable still being friends with someone who has expressed romantic/sexual attraction to her than it does how you choose to reveal that information.
1 week ago
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Aight, that makes sense. Thanks!
1 week ago
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>I was thinking middle split. Middle split is legs out to the side, front split is one leg in front one behind
Ahhh... I get it now. Probably should watch more water sports during Olympics, lol.
Also another hot girl earlier in the day asked for my name and was like "you're so sweet... and cute haha"
It's only hot girls that ever do this and I'm a below-average dude so it just throws me for a loop. Do they just tend to be more confident and flirty, like what's the correlation I wonder??
>It's only hot girls that ever do this and I'm a below-average dude so it just throws me for a loop
So I can't say for sure and I know I'm going to get shit for this but as a girl who's been around the block a little...once you've gotten enough dick there's less pressure to get "the best" guy you can in terms of looks and you start appreciating other traits just as much as if not more than physical beauty. I've proven to myself I can get "Chad" so why not expand my palate? I suspect really attractive women go through something similar but they probably don't even need to fuck anyone to get it. They're used to turning down lots of men. They know they can have just about anyone in terms of looks so I think maybe they look for something else.
>dudebro classmates brought me into their friendgroup this year >first night out together a girl comes up to me and starts flirting with me before kissing me >dudebros think im a pussyslayer because of this >im still a virgin
Should I hype myself up as the pussyslayer they seem to think I am?
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Just act like it's normal, you don't have to pretend like you've done that a million times but you also don't have to denigrate yourself and say that it has never happened before and how no woman will ever love you or something lol.
>I need more information to decide how weird it is
Like, he does kegel's and stretching for long time, one might assume stretching is only for his workouts, but real motive is to be more flexible to try more sex positions. Has no particular woman in mind while pursuing this goal.
Also does strength training to be stronger for more advanced positions. So, basically works out for sex. >weird to mention
Not like, this non existent person, would mention it, but if he was asked what are his motives for stretching and working out... Should he lie instead?
>but if he was asked what are his motives for stretching and working out
Is that a question that generally gets asked? I've never questioned why a guy would work out.
It seems weird to me to say it. You could get away with it with a girlfriend and a joking tone but it seems odd that that's your ONLY motivation you don't care about your health or physical ability to do anything but sex.
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Wish you said it was OK to lie in this situation.
1 week ago
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Oh I mean you can. I'm sure lots of guys do when they say they lift solely for themselves rather than trying to impress anyone. It's probably mostly true but who doesn't like being more attractive?
1 week ago
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ahhh.. thanks. Now I can justify my other white lies.
1 week ago
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Eh, if it doesn't hurt anyone. I don't always need to admit I changed my pants because I got blood or food on them instead of just wanting to change.
1 week ago
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You sound too sane for this thread. Try being a bit schizo for the vibe.
1 week ago
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>too sane
No one has ever said this to me in my life. I'm stunned.
1 week ago
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Someone called you crazy? Let me guess, yes?
It's easier to judge people. I think we're better at noticing flaws.
I feel like saying it would only make them more likely to think you are desperate and miserable though "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" vibes.
So my GF dumped me a couple weeks ago because she thought I was not good enough at reading her non verbal communication and was too clingy. She was weird about it though, she avoided eye contact a lot during this conversation and then she ditched a lot of obligations to create space between us. I got the feeling there was more to it. I haven't interacted with her since.
Recently however, she has started lightly interacting on social media (reacting to posts, group messages etc). Opinions on what I should do, should I just continue ignoring her? I don't deny that my heart wants her still, but I also am not sure I should wound myself further by trying.
I broke it off with a woman I was dating because I fell in love with her. Our lifestyles and general wants from a partner just don't line up even though I was (still am) head over heels for her, in short, I would've made a bad long term partner for her. I told her to block my number on her phone and to not come by my house anymore, I really fucking love her and knew I wouldn't be strong enough to not try and talk to her again. She said she would but when I texted her one evening she responded and keeps telling me things like "oh I'll be near your neighborhood soon". I don't want to end up disappointing her or breaking her heart, I don't want to try to rearrange my life to integrate with hers. What the fuck do I do here?
I've been through some shit in the past few years. A parent dying in front of my eyes after a loooong battle with cancer, fights with family, instability at work, I've been feeling depressed and dissociative despite eating and exercising healthily.
I've been with my gf for almost a year, and despite being the first girl I've ever seriously considered marrying, I find myself looking at other girls, flirting with other girls. I feel like my moral compass left my mind and instead of drowning my sorrows in alcohol or drugs, I constantly try to cheat on my gf. I haven't been successful, but I want it to stop. Any other guy been in this situation?
>Any other guy been in this situation?
no lol I'm an incel who likes alcohol/drugs
don't be like me but also don't be a cheating manwhore, see a psych or anything if things are that fucked (sorry about your situation btw)
That's rough I'm sorry anon. Don't make any big decisions under duress. You're sad and stressed right now and not thinking like your healthy self would. Your healthy self would want to kick your ass right now. Have you been to a therapist? It doesn't help everyone but it can be nice to have someone to dump all of that on and not have to feel guilty about it.
i don't want to be an armchar psychologist, but do you think maybe you're struggling to accept how life could be like this when you expected it to be better? and because it's painful to even think about it, it's easier to just try and ignore the feelings as much as possible. it doesn't matter that you might have long term plans with your gf, because you're actively trying to avoid thinking about yourself or your situation in the larger sense, because it's painful to do so.
thinking about what life would be like without a parent, thinking about fighting again, thinking about finding a new job, it's a lot and it's stressful to deal with. so to make the feelings go away, it's either tackle the problems and solve them all, or try to avoid thinking about them.
so, maybe you're hyperfocusing on these low-level escapes to keep yourself occupied so you don't have to deal with coming to terms with the overall painful shit going on in your greater life.
maybe it's the same sort of reason people fall into self destructive habits like drinking or overeating or gambling or staying on the internet. it's distraction. you don't want to think about the long term, because it requires coming to terms with recent trauma, but also it means that you necessarily aren't seriously considering the long term consequences of your actions.
>ldr multiple states away >she's moving in later this year >we're meeting for a vacation in july >vacation is small but something she's wanted to do for years >want to propose out there but haven't met her dad, just her mom >tell her to invite her parents and we could meet them >they don't want to travel >next time i'll be over in her area is this fall
Should I wait till fall and talk with her father? Invite the parents out here for the holidays and propose then? It's not required to ask her dad, but I'd like to have a good rapport with future in-laws and meet him before my introduction is "I'm engaged to your daughter." We've already talked about marriage and ring ideas, etc. so it's not out of the blue for her.
Another one. How can I get her ring size without blatantly asking? I'd like to get the ring and surprise her but I'd like it to actually fit.
>How long have you been dating?
Year and a half. I know it's not very long compared to most but it's longer than others I know and we're both very comfortable and in agreement on future ideas and goals.
>You should meet her father?
I'm not sure why it's a question. Are you asking why should I or did you mean to make it a statement? I want to meet him, and the holiday thing would be good to get our families together to meet and stuff.
>You have to ask her ring size, it won't be a surprise
Hm. True. I have a good idea but yeah I want to know for sure.
I think it was originally marketed to boys, and I think girls who are interested often get turned off of it by weird sexual behavior from guys or annoying gatekeeping just like with videogames.
Went to a local MTG tournament a few years back with my boyfriend. By the time we left I wanted to throw up from the stank. A big portion of the dudes who play table top stuff don't shower. Plus most of that stuff is aimed at guys. Theres more reasons I'm sure but I can't get the words together atm
Men self describing themselves as being men but it's actually just them being disgusting humans.
Non deoderant, nor cologned, or even clean smelling... unshowered. Idc if you're allergic to water. Shower in 100% rubbing alcohol. Hell, even smelling of alcohol is better than dirty butthole.
female here who loves board games so much that ive gone to entire board game conventions, it seems a little self-fulfilling. i know board games =/= tabletop, but they are adjacent.
tabletop gaming was and still is marketed towards guys. its attractive to dudes who need escapism from reality, and those guys also tend to have trouble with women. so when a woman like me joins a group, we're immediately seen as 1) different and 2) potential dating partners. the one time i joined a dnd group, i was the only young female in a circle of like 5 other guys. i wasn't taken seriously but i sure as hell got looks. so of course women are driven away from the tabletop scene when they will never just fit in like the guys
sure, here are some that i've been playing for years
> Carcassonne > Wingspan > Winners Circle > Azule
I love games that rely on your logic skills to turn luck into a win. I really like playing to maximize chances
> Rising Sun
I'm not really one for war games but rising sun has fun mechanics with the seasons and the superpowers of the clans
> Dominion
Only deck builder I've enjoyed but also combines luck with skill
I think it's overpriced for what it is, but I enjoy the birds! If you win at the end, you can really feel like you're so smart for choosing the birds that you did. As engine-builders go, I think its a little restricting on what you can do in one game. But I just like the birds 🙂
This new girl works at a video game store I go to. She has extremely large boobs, way bigger than any other I've known. She's attempted to make small talk with me when I buy stuff but I think a lot of the times I just come across as a doofus that stares at her chest. I think she can probably tell. How do I avoid seeming like a creep and actually have a conversation with her when her tits kinda of intimidate me?
I've gotten used to people glancing. If you're gonna be really obvious and stare while I'm trying to talk to you or something, I'll say something, but I'm not really bothered by a little bit of it.
I have only kissed around 3 girls and everytime we kissed, we would kiss for more than 40 mins. Sometimes for around 2 hours. Does this indicate that I am a good kisser?
Femanons, how can women I date go from basically worshipping me to seemingly hating me over night? This has happened with 3 girls I’ve really cared about in the last few years and I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. One relationship lasted almost 3 years and even that girl went from treating me like I was a god among men to acting as if I was a stranger she wanted nothing to do with in a very short span of time. It’s like a switch was flipped. I know for a fact they weren’t seeing other men behind my back. The last girl and I broke up in September and mutuals have let me know she’s still not dating again yet. I never fought with any of these girls. They all told me they loved me frequently. But they all soured on me for seemingly no reason. And I know I didn’t change. Can any of you shed any light on this phenomenon?
penis-haver but you might be attracted to certain certain mentally ill women, like those with cluster B disorders. i find that a surprising amount of women i think are interesting, end up having BPD.
Well if it's not just run of the mill mental illness like bpd or something or if you're not leaving out important context, the main thing I think about is that there was probably something bothering them the whole time. It happens where something is initially easy to deal with but over time they're able to put up with it less and less.
So then you have them being mad at the thing but also having built up resentment.
penis-haver but you might be attracted to certain certain mentally ill women, like those with cluster B disorders. i find that a surprising amount of women i think are interesting, end up having BPD.
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It's called BPD.
I’ve considered it being BPD, but none of them ever showed any other signs of it throughout the entirety of the relationships. Could it only manifest itself in them breaking up with me for no reason?
Well I don't have enough context just from what you wrote. Think of the bpd as more of an honorable mention than a main contender >Could it only manifest itself in them breaking up with me for no reason?
It could. Not everyone with bpd is explosive. For some people it's very internal and the most visible part is cutting off relationships.
> that girl went from treating me like I was a god among men to acting as if I was a stranger she wanted nothing to do with in a very short span of time
Can’t really explain the rest of it, but this has to do with girls being embarrassed about how they let you see them at their most private and intimate. Not just seeing them naked, but being totally submissive to you and sharing their deepest fetishes. After a girl lets you have everything she has to offer, and then she gets tired of you for one reason or another, it makes the most since to her primal brain to simply pretend you no longer exist. So even if she loved you at one time all of those memories are cut off and diminished in her mind the second she loses attraction to you. She’s sickened by the thought of you. And it’s not really anything you’ve done (unless the guy proved himself to be a real asshole or something.) It’s that she opened herself up to you. Men don’t really do this. Their brains work very differently.
>28 >no friends for over a decade >have social/conversational/listenimy skills due to job >volunteer and work around plenty of women >afraid of losing job or volunteer role or reputation if I ask any of them out >small industry for both so rumors travel fast
The stuff I do is all I have. I get along with people great but others somehow link up on social media, share memes, go out together etc.
Girls have asked me out in the past so I look normal enough but I never reciprocated. What happens when she finds out I got no friends? Wouldn't her parents hate me? God forbid a marriage where the only people who show up are people she knows. The last one is stupid but I worry about it.
Everything else is ok. I have a car, home, etc. I'm about to die alone at this rate. What do I do
>tfw secretary at work the other day kept blabbing about random shit and was then like "you're a quiet one, aren't you?"
No shit, I was trying to actually do some work. Why do extroverts feel the need to point out you're quiet if you're not constantly talking? (I do kinda like when she rambles though ngl, at least when it fades into background noise, but I wouldn't tell a soul)
Femanons, I slept with 3 prostitutes when I was 19 because I was a complete degenerate. Since then, I've changed a lot and I have deep regrets for what I did... Now I actually am very conservative about sex to compensate for what I did. I really really regret what I did and I hope that someday I can marry someone who will forgive me for what I did. I'm really ready to do anything to prove I'm very sorry for my mistake and that it won't happen ever again. I'm afraid I won't find a good woman to settle with if she knows I slept with prostitutes... Femanons, what do you think??
Yeah, I know, and that's a great relief... I know Christ forgives me, what I worry about is how will my future wife take it. What do you think? On the one hand, as a Christian woman, the right thing to do would be to forgive me, but any woman feels disgusted at the fact that her bf/hb slept with prostitutes
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Does she need to know?
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not really, I don't have any STI, so I live as it never happened. I can be the best boyfriend for her, that's all she will care about imo
If it helps, my bf was in a relationship with an ex prostitute (about a week tho) and I still love him.
close enough, thanks femanon
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Then if it doesn't bother your conscience too much, I wouldn't bother telling her unless she ever asks that specifically.
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If it helps, my bf was in a relationship with an ex prostitute (about a week tho) and I still love him.
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That doesn't seem like quite the same thing.
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I find it of equal ickness, it was only a few months between
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well if this really isnt larp, then yea. don't lie. frame it like "I made mistakes in my youth."
Wdym?
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I'm very dramatic so it seems like a larp, it's not. Yeah, I usually go with that one whenever the topic comes up
It's the middle of the night and I'm done with my workout. Shower time and sleepy time!
Good night anons!
(pls respond with sleep tight, so I have good sleep and feel like I have frens for once! I'll read all replies after shower!)
Saw a girl post something about wishing they didnt have to work so they didnt have to pay bills
All the replies were from girls talking about how its better than depending on a shitty husband.
Why cant girls just choose good guys? >inb4 you cant tell
bull fcking shit. You can always tell who is gonna end up bad/abusive. it's so fucking easy.
especially men. men are easier to read than dr. seuss
I mean working is better than depending on someone shitty, sure >men are easier to read than dr. seuss
1 fish 2 fish I call bullshit
Saw a girl post something about wishing they didnt have to work so they didnt have to pay bills
All the replies were from girls talking about how its better than depending on a shitty husband.
Why cant girls just choose good guys? >inb4 you cant tell
bull fcking shit. You can always tell who is gonna end up bad/abusive. it's so fucking easy.
especially men. men are easier to read than dr. seuss
Why at youtuber/influencer parties the people don't really "party" at all? A guy had a youtuber party at his Mansion and he was apparently the only one in the pool. Do zoomers not know how to party?
I’m good friends with a girl I met at college a few years ago. We have many similar interests, the same sense of humor, politics, and fwiw we’re both pretty good looking. Yet she seemingly has no interest in dating me. She spends most of her free time with me, hasn’t dated another guy in over a year, and we have mutual friends who have asked us both separately, “Why the fuck aren’t you two dating? You’re perfect for each other!” She says “because it would be disastrous.” And “it would ruin our friendship.” I asked her out once pretty early into our friendship and nicely turned me down. Haven’t brought it up again because I’m afraid of making it weird. She’s very comfortable around me, to the point where sometimes she’ll just hang out wearing only a robe when we’re at her place. She gets kind of snippy whenever she learns I’m going out with someone I met on Tinder. One time she tried to get me to change my plans and hang out with her instead
when she learned I was going on a date. This is truly maddening. I definitely have feelings for this girl and would like to date her. What the hell do I need to do?
You are highly unlikely to make the kind of money you think you will. Spoiler Alert: Most women on OnlyFans are actual prostitutes, they use the platform to vet potential clients and to offer a preview of the goods. Don't believe me? Check their instagram feed. That boat they took a selfie on? Not her boat. That posh hotel from some new city? She didn't pay for that hotel or airplane ticket.
OnlyFans and Instagram is essentially an E-brothel for the wealthy.
>Spoiler Alert: Most women on OnlyFans are actual prostitutes, they use the platform to vet potential clients and to offer a preview of the goods.
They may be whores, but they're not prostitutes. Unless you believe every instathot trading her pussy for fame is a prostitute.
IG DM any OF girl that isn't in the top percentage of subs with "$1500 fly u 2 me, all expenses paid" and see how they respond. or better yet up it to $5000. thats the kind of cash being thrown around in this space, how many of those girls making a couple hundred a month are going to consistently turn that down?
I buy hookers of OF all the time, thats how i know this stuff.
>IG DM any OF girl that isn't in the top percentage of subs with "$1500 fly u 2 me, all expenses paid" and see how they respond. or better yet up it to $5000. thats the kind of cash being thrown around in this space, how many of those girls making a couple hundred a month are going to consistently turn that down?
You could probably DM any young attractive thot with a social media presence that and they'd agree
No
no downsides other than every other possible downside to a realshipo
do realize too that every relationship is a marriage, choose wisely!
But I am a misogynistic simp, not sure if that matters..
a friend very nicely gifted me two free weeks of discord nitro randomly (i've nver been gifted that) however it asks for your real payment info bc after it'll charge you.. how do i avoid this? i really don't want to attach my financials to a free discord trial and i also don't want to hurt my friend's feelings. it expires after 48 hours
State gender: in a relationship, how often do you expect to have PIV sex? How about long-term (over 2+ years)? If you're in a relationship, did your expectations change?
4 times a week for the rest of your relationship? even 5, 10, 20 years down the line? i have never understood this mentality. then again, im guessing you've never been in something long term
I'm with my partner of 2 years
Intimacy is important to me in a relationship.
Maybe not full blown sex but sexual interactions leading to one or both cumming.
The likelihood of it staying at 4 times a week is low, but that's how much I'd expect/hope for. I dont want a partner where it's common we go weeks without any sex, assuming nothing like childbirth or illness is happening.
Female. I don't really EXPECT it. Like, I'm not gonna go to my BF with a line graph and be like "Your numbers are looking bad this quarter." Three or four times a week sound great, but as we get older ... once a week minimum, I think. I need him inside of me at least that often or I REALLY miss him, even if we're around each other. It's hard to explain.
Online Dating is marketing 101 and marketing is inherently dishonest. It's about getting you the date, getting you that first real life interaction. your profile is immediately disregarded the minute they meet you.
The realestate finally sent plumbers to fix the toilet. They replaced the back of it. Lmao look at it. Should I get some fake tiles and blutack over that horrendous part? Can't do anything more since it's a rental
I had more saved before being neet but I have 35k atm
Men, assuming these are your only two options, which are you picking? For the sake of the question assume their physical appearances and personalities are the same.
A. Virgin girl who does onlyfans, is waiting until marriage to have any sexual contact with a man
B. Girl with a body count of 5 but would never consider doing onlyfans
I need more information. Is this just what they've told me or do I somehow know both of those things to be true? Also, what sort of OnlyFans content does (A) make?
My girlfriend wants me to nurse from her daily for extended periods of time (think 20 minutes to an hour) while she watches TV, like I'm a baby (she didn't say this last bit herself but that's the vibe I'm getting).
She's always liked it when I play with her boobs but is she fucking with me? Do women actually like this?
I've heard of this before. I love it when my BF sucks my nipples, and if I had milk, I think I'd really like him to drink it. But for an hour? I'd get sore, for one thing!
see i like it when my boobs get played with, but i really dont like the feeling of sucking and i certainly would be so dead embarrassed if milk came out. pls fondle. no suck.
Fair enough. I asked my boyfriend once if he'd like to drink my milk if I had any. He snarked "Sure, you seem to love drinking from me!" Ugh. I mean, he's not wrong, but still.
see i like it when my boobs get played with, but i really dont like the feeling of sucking and i certainly would be so dead embarrassed if milk came out. pls fondle. no suck.
i had talked to my exgf about getting on some sort of supplement so we could see if she'd lactate and she was on board with it and i thought that was kind of hot but we broke up before anything came of it.
i need a guy with career ambitions. i dont give a damn where you're working as long as you have plans to grow from there. but dispensary boys arent generally my type
Yeah it doesn't have anything to do with my career path but I'm still trying to break into that, doing a degree for that still and trying to get internships in it for experience in the field where I can springboard to better things.
After class today I went to get food on campus and there was a girl sitting by herself eating and looking at her phone.
I got my food and I thought about asking her if she was busy and if she'd mind if I ate with her, but I didn't.
I didn't really have anything in mind to talk about if she said yes, and I was worried she would think it was weird.
So instead I ate by myself and looked at my phone.
Would it have been fine to ask her? Is that weird? I am a bit autistic, but outwardly normal. I've had friends and girlfriends.
Would you be fine with some normal looking person randomly approaching you, having lunch and talking with you?
i don't think it's necessarily weird but i am a man. i think it'd be fine if some random dude sat down next to me at a bar and started talking. i'd probably decline if i was at a restaurant alone. i dunno.
Nah, it would be fine. You were going to ask her if it was all right, right? So if she said 'no' and you left her alone, that's fine. And she might have enjoyed the company. It would be weird or creepy if you just sat there and joined her without asking.
Maybe I'll try and just give it a go the next time the opportunity comes up. I was somewhat concerned about making her feel pressured or weird or something. Maybe I shouldn't go in instantly disqualifying myself.
I was thinking like,
"Hey are you busy?" >Not really what's up?
"Is it alright if i sit here and have lunch with you?"
I mean fuck I could just as easily do it with dudes too, I eat lunch alone practically every day. It's just really out of my comfort zone. Worst case, they just say no. Best case, maybe they ask me for my number and we hang out again later.
Just wanted a sanity check really.
It's okay. I suffer from social anxiety too, and I know how little logic will make a dent in it when the situation comes up. My brain is all "Nah, you're a piece of human shit and should just stay away from everyone, lest you contaminate their lives with your stink." My brain fucking hates me.
"Sex is fun!"
me when i am an autistic virgin girl with a bf that plans on getting on pill birth control and making him use a condom as well every single time and i'll still be extremely paranoid and scared reading this information
Well, sex doesn't have to be penis in vagina. I'm bi, so my advice if you're scared of pregnancy is to get a girlfriend. But if that's no good, you could just not let him ejaculate inside of you. That said, I realize paranoia isn't defeated by logic. I'm sorry you get scared, sweetie.
>I think she's venting, not complaining
Venting, complaining, who cares. The minute she starts vocalizing her issues to a third party is the start of the countdown. She's going to get more and more fed up with this virgin loser until some girl she's friends with tells her she can do better and he's probably just a porn addict and she remembers "oh yeah, i've already fucked 6 guys! I CAN do better!" and she monkey branches away. Seen it happen a million times.
you miss out being that paranoid about it. when i was like 16/17 my first gf was on the pill, and i remember one time we bought these spermicidal films. put one in, and i nutted in her, and i swear to god i nearly had a panic attack "dude we can't do this again oh my god".
later on, another gf has an IUD, i'd cum in her all the time. the risk associated with pregnancy when you actually use hormones correctly is actually zero. the "chance" is from people skipping days or other stupid shit. but i get the feeling. i was deathly afraid at one point too. you get over it.
Ladies on Tinder, if you matched with a guy and he immediately offered to give you head would you accept or would you like some talk and build-up first?
We served a lawsuit on a guy today who tried to hide from the process server. Lmao. The process server did his job par excellence. Best $260 we ever spent.
I had to facilitate a meeting this morning, and pick out music for it, on a new computer. I almost messed up the whole thing, and failed to edit out a swear in one of the songs. Argh! But nobody minded. Other than that, typical day
>music in a meeting
Interesting >swear words
yikes! you should sue somebody! hostile work environment!
The music is before the meeting, for the ten minutes before it starts, just while people are coming in. And yeah, I forgot that "Highwayman" mentions 'the bastards' Oops.
If one were attacked by a homeowner's dog unprovoked and sued, what dictates the payout by the homeowner's insurance?
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Whether there's an exclusion that covers the dog (e.g., if it's a pitbull and the insurance policy has an express exclusion for pitbulls), and then the coverage limits. Those would be the two main issues I'd look for.
Bear in mind that an insurance company will still have a duty to defend—that is, they still have to provide an attorney for the homeowner, I think at least until there's a determination that the claim is excluded.
As to fixing the actual amount of the payout, it's something that would be determined based on the actual damage to the victim (like medical bills, future medical), plus an amount for pain and suffering, and maybe punitive damages? But punitives probably fall outside the insurance policy.
There's no easy way to tell you the value of a case by the way. It's going to be very dependent on what your damages are and comparable judgments from other juries in your venue. Then in terms of what the insurance company's settlement offer looks like, it'll be based off that figure.
That specific aspect of it I don't know a ton about.
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Would I be correct that a young child witnessing such an attack on their mother would be considered a second victim in this case?
Also, more generally, how are "intangible" injuries evaluated in a case like this? Psychological/emotional issues and similar.
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>Would I be correct that a young child witnessing such an attack on their mother would be considered a second victim in this case?
Probably. Being in the "zone of danger" is a thing. I forget if that falls under IIED or something. Of course having an animal also puts it under ultrahazardous acts.
>Also, more generally, how are "intangible" injuries evaluated in a case like this? Psychological/emotional issues and similar.
In terms of actual damages, there are two metrics you'd look at: (1) Treatment costs (both past and projected future based on expert testimony), and (2) A disability rating resulting in a calculation of what the impairment of your future earnings potential is. But as to the value of mental suffering, pain and suffering, etc., I don't know exactly how you put a price tag on it. In theory, what you do is you go to the jury and say, "My client was harmed this much. I think that's worth this amount of money because (reasons)." Now, part of how you arrive at that proposed figure is through knowledge and experience of what juries in that same venue have awarded in other injury cases to other victims. There are a LOT of factors that go into this: How sympathetic the plaintiff is, for example. If it was a pretty young mother who is horribly disfigured now, she will generally be very sympathetic. A kindly old man, same. A tattooed thug, not so much. Sort of the opposite with the defendant: The more sympathetic the less you can count on a victory.
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What if all parties involved are living under the same roof in a dysfunctional shitshow that'd make jerry springer blush, and this is the event that implodes the family?
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Probably same as any other homo insurance claim.
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>homo insurance
Is that for when you're making out with a chick and find a surprise in "her" skirt when you cop a feel?
1 week ago
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the insurance is the gun you press against "her" temple as you recommend that "she" leave the premises immediately
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Your inability to take a joke is why you will lose the culture war.
I had to facilitate a meeting this morning, and pick out music for it, on a new computer. I almost messed up the whole thing, and failed to edit out a swear in one of the songs. Argh! But nobody minded. Other than that, typical day
I get paid to enter data and do boring mail shit. Doing music for the meetings is just a fun thing my manager used to do, and then she got too busy and she asked me. I guess technically they pay me for about ... 15 minutes each week on it?
And that is ridiculous. Not that you should have to do it on your own time but like, why not just pick songs without swears. Or not edit them, you're all adults.
Because I forgot it had one, like I said? By the way, 'edit' means like, I hit the mute button for the one second the word is in. I'm not doing some sort of software wizardry.
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That's even sillier baka this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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>baka
Yeah. Clearly your opinion of what is and isn't stupid is very important!
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I forget the filters one time and it invalidates my opinion? Well damn.
I took my mom on vacation and then we both got Covid. We’re supposed to fly back home in the morning and we both feel like we’re on the brink of death, so idk what to do about that
My dad caught it on the last day of our trip to Universal Orlando. We had to drive twelve hours to get back, and he was so miserable in the backseat. Great trip otherwise though.
We have about 12 hours worth of flying to do tomorrow and I get winded just from walking a few minutes to go get water. I thought I had covid once last year but holy shit was I wrong, this is awful
Should you really be getting on a plane if it's that bad? For your sake and the sake of everyone else on the plane.
I don’t really have another choice, since I’m in another country that doesn’t let me stay past the date I originally listed on my paperwork
The last thing I want to be doing is getting on a plane. But I plan to wear a mask and keep my distance from people as much as possible
>I get winded just from walking a few minutes to go get water
I got sick like that too. When you have to summon all your strength to take a shower. It can be pretty rough.
Yeah I was sitting in the hotel’s shower floor earlier just holding the shower head against me with my eyes closed. The only moment of peace I had today lol
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Well that sucks. Would be nice if you could take 3 days to recover first.
>I get winded just from walking a few minutes to go get water
I got sick like that too. When you have to summon all your strength to take a shower. It can be pretty rough.
24 M, open to both.
I just started a seasonal job as a barback in a hotel today, during work a cute girl working as a busser caught my eye. Nothing happened asides from exchanging a few glances and a smile, but I'd like to talk with her, hopefully ask her out or something.
Looking for advice on how to approach this; were in different depts so I'd have to go a little out of my way to talk to her and even then it'd be brief
Yeah I've been to some small house parties with co workers, amd a few of my friends frat parties, they're OK I guess. I like hanging out with a 5-10 friends in someone's backyard or basement and some drinks more tho
Like someone else itt said, it falls off past your mid 20s
I'm 21. What else should I try? I tried a dnd shop, coding club, and the gaming room at my university. I feel like a fish out of water in all three places. ESPECIALLY the dnd place.
>21
Buddy you got time. Just keep searching, you'll find a niche
from like 17-24 i did. some fraternity parties at someone's house, sometimes they'd rent a bar out. sometimes some person would just host it and someone i knew would invite me. i remember once, sophomore year, they completey fucking trashed this house. like, people climbing on countertops, mud all over the furniture. it was fucked.
i've been to a lot. a good 20 or 30 where i'd consider it a party and not just a group of people hanging out and drinking. as in more than like, i dunno 15 people or so.
beer pong is a real thing, jungle juice is a real thing, chatting with people and getting their numbers is a real thing. it's fun i like them. but they definitely seem to taper off as you get older.
It seems like people that don't go to university miss out on some good times unless they find other places to party.
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You don't have to go yourself just have to have friends that do.
1 week ago
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Good tip. Thanks.
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not necessarily. i didn't discover the parties, i wasn't all that social. my high school gf was really outgoing and would always invite me to parties, so probably 5-10 were just from that. i was in a quiz bowl club on campus, and they hosted a party once. a couple friends from high school were in fraternities and they invited me to a couple. my roommate was in the powerlifting club and he invited me to some that he was going to. others were from people i'd met at parties just mentioning that another one was coming up.
they're out there. if you're college aged, maybe to about i dunno 25 or 26, you probably wouldn't stick out that much at them. as you get older, it's more maybe a half dozen people sitting around drinking, less intense. but people still do parties for stuff like the 4th of july or the super bowl or whatever. lower intensity, but the same sort of socializing.
Mine likes it, but I had to learn how. He stopped me the first time I said and was all "Whoa, whoa, gentle!!" He wants me to just baaaarely touch them, and then it really turns him on. I love doing it to him.
Yes! I run the tip of my finger from near his asshole all the way to the base of his dick, just right over the center of his sack. His dick pulses to life so quickly, and his breathing gets really hot. He'll pet my head and say things like 'fuck yes, baby' in that hoarse voice when he really likes something. If I just keep that up and don't touch anything else for long enough, he gets impatient, and that gets REALLY fun!
They don't call them huevos for nothing. Imagine them like an egg in a pan. Be gentle and don't break the yolk.
I ADORE gentle teasing and stroking. Sucking or gripping can get very painful very quickly.
I actually like cock torture. But ball torture is right out.
Uncharacteristically suggestive comments and thoughts from a character usually considered pure and innocent. Sometimes this is played straight and shows that a character is mature or smart enough to notice subtle themes their friends don't.
It's neither pure piss nor ejaculate. But the scientific studies into the phenomenon are relatively lacking as subjects are rare and scientists have better shit to do.
I try to! It's hard to say because I don't really pick up on my own scent? BF seems to think so. I know I love how he smells. That's why I steal his hoodies, but also give them back to him. If I keep them forever, they won't smell like him anymore.
So here's the situation. >My job used to be done by two people, me and another person >the other person retired so now it's just me >I can mostly do it myself, but there is one aspect of the job that takes up way too much time, and I can't do that and everything else as well >my boss has decided to give that aspect of my job to the guys who work at night, who spend hours just sitting back and reading the newspaper because they don't have enough to do >I have to stay late tomorrow to teach them how to do it >it's not miserable, it's just a little time consuming, but I know they're going to be pissed off about having this put on them and they're going to resent me
Femanons on dating sites - Are you just not on them often or for long? Are you just competing for internet dating clout, like "I can get x matches in y hours"? What gives? >X likes anon >Anon likes X >*10 hours later* >X messages anon >*2 minutes later* >anon messages X >*9 hours later and counting*
What the hell? Pretty sure it's rude most anywhere to dip right after starting a conversation. And this isn't an isolated incident, either. The overwhelming majority of conversations end with a ghosting at "hi". Tf do you want me to say? "I want to take you out back and ride you like a snowmobile on an avalanche"? >inb4 showing desperation at 2 min reply
I happened to be on my phone at the time.
not a woman but it's a game theory thing. men outnumber women on dating apps, for one. like, 4:1 or something. and men swipe right on everyone, but women are more selective. with women, almost every right-swipe is a match, and there's little pressure to be invested in any particular match because there's effectively a limitless pool if you're normal looking, let alone attractive.
that's just how it works, boss. dating apps are shit, meet people in real life.
>men outnumber women on dating apps, for one. like, 4:1 or something.
Kinda figured that. Still doesn't excuse the rudeness. If you're gonna ghost at the first message, it just makes it look like you're indecisive or vindictive and better off not matching at all. >dating apps are shit, meet people in real life.
If I could date in real life, I wouldn't be on the apps. As it is, I'm an isolated guy with no comms with the few high school or college friends I had and all my coworkers are male, in their late 30s and older, and/or already hitched. Been flying solo for nearly 4 years, now, and all I have to show for it is knowing a couple bartenders.
>If I could date in real life, I wouldn't be on the apps.
you give up when you decide to give up. the only people on dating apps are people who have no other option, if you understand what i am saying. you probably do not want to be with a woman who is relying on them, or at least, that shouldn't be your entire dating pool.
i don't know how old you are, i'm assuming early 30's. people meet people by doing things where people are. do bands ever play where you live, or maybe within a couple hours drive? you ever been to a concert? there are a lot of people at concerts who are absolutely open to meeting new people.
it doesn't get easier as you get older it gets harder. you need to be putting boots to asses now if you want things to change. go with the goal of making new friends. they introduce you to mutual friends. this can continue indefinitely. some of them are friends with single women. you can date those single women.
this is the trick. it's a slower game but the results are guaranteed if you keep up with it, and the outcomes are better.
that's it. you're lying to yourself if you don't think there are fuckloads of people your age, in your area, who aren't literally going to these fucking events to meet people like you that they can be friends with. that's the whole fucking point of them. it's not because they love this local comedian, it's because other humans are going to be at the bar.
I get what you're saying, but the current situation doesn't really allow for it. I don't really give a shit about doxing since I'm leaving the area, but I currently sleep, work, and play in the small commuter city that is Manassas, where most everyone here just sleeps, then goes 30 miles away to Arlington and DC for work and play. We have no concert venues, a shitty improv acting club, and not even recreational sports fields. All the bars are hole-in-the-wall as the entire "downtown" is 2 blocks by four blocks. We are the Gettysburg of VA, put on the map solely because of big open fields where a bunch of people died 150 years ago.
I've tried meetup to avoid aimlessly wandering all over NoVa and read several local papers for upcoming events but most everything is aimed at families with kids, people obsessed with their careers, geriatrics, and homeowners. The events aimed at singles my age (26) are usually under-populated and the people who do come, come with their friends, never venturing from their friends. These people are also usually the advanced liberal arts variety, talking masters and doctorates in language study and underwater basket weaving, so my BS in electromechanical engineering sticks out like a sore thumb.
Coming back to Manassas, people my age who normally float around the area on friday nights are illiterate delinquents, a couple car shop guys, and an actual schizo who thinks AI has already assumed the NSAs favorite pastime of eavesdropping and location data collection through phones and and carries a deck of random yugioh, mtg, and pokemon cards in his accordion wallet.
So glad I am moving out of this place.
>and the people who do come, come with their friends, never venturing from their friends.
doesn't mean you couldn't approach them. what's the worst that could happen? they stick out their tongues and laugh at you? they're at the same fuckin event, dog. they're there to try and find new people to hang out with because they live in the same area.
>usually the advanced liberal arts variety
doesn't mean you can't be friends with them. who gives a shit. i'm CS and i've had plenty of stupid artsy friends. one of my best ones graduated in political science. don't disqualify people over dumb shit like that.
look, most people who have enough friends probably aren't the ones going to those events. they're either old people who like the thing regardless, or they're socially competent people who want more friends, or they're social retards who have zero other options.
so the way it works is, you engage with the most normal person at one of those things, and try to hang out with them outside of it. grow a friend group.
the socially competent ones aren't there to befriend the social retards, and if you're normal enough to stand out against the mouthbreathers dude it's so fucking easy. they're literally waiting for you to talk to them.
a thing i'm picking up is that you're pretty judgemental, and it took me a while to break through that, i'm about your same age. if you don't have anyone to hang out with, you kinda have to take what you can get, for now. have a beer with the least awful option. you'll build social skills, maybe they're friends with someone else, maybe they'll invite you to dinner with that person.
i guarantee you have had chances to put yourself out there and you disqualified yourself. just try. you even said that you're leaving, you have nothing to lose. try. build skills right now. Go to an event in DC this weekend. Talk to at least ONE person while you're there. do it.
Joining the monastery because "can't find a gf" is insincere. I already weighed this option. Loving God is fine and all, but I find living the scout oath, law, and motto to be more immediately beneficial to myself and my neighbors. The acceptance of homos and subsuming of girl scouts were major fuck-ups on the admin's part, though. GSA could have taken a few lessons from BSA, but BSA encroaching that heavily into GSA turf wrecked the reps of both orgs.
So you've done this 3 times and haven't been to a hospital? I tried with pills when I was a teen and was on a heart monitor for 3 days. You're playing a dangerous game here. Pills very rarely work. You're going to end up doing irreparable damage to your body but not enough to kill you.
Someone told me that unless I have more assets (a house, a car paid off, etc) then a stable healthy woman won’t want to date me. I’ve been thinking about this heavily. Are they right?
I am 27 and rent a decent house and I make payments on a car, as well as monitoring my credit, but I’m also trying to grow in my career and save so that I can buy a house. I’m working really hard to be the best version of myself and I feel like I’m a decent person.
Dating has been rough lately but the idea that a healthy woman won’t date me unless I own a house and have everything figured out makes me a little upset
"Unless you do this, women won't date you" is a stupid thing said by a stupid person. People have different criteria they look for in their partners. Now, the more assets you have, the wider your reach is - MORE women will want to date you, sure. But there's women out there who won't give a shit if you live in a cardboard box. Just not very many. Many people like to talk in extremes and black-and-white terms, especially when giving advice. But if someone tells you "You must do X, or you'll be ALONE FOREVER", they're full of shit.
Sounds nonsensical. As long as you aren't homeless or being crushed by debt I can't imagine it being a major factor to most people.
I can see his point like owning a house and having lots of financial security looks good to a lot of women but it’s also a huge insecurity of mine
I dunno. I have good qualities; like I said dating has just been rough lately and I am getting really tired of going through the motions over and over again
Well, having more assets doesn't fix insecurity. If anything it would just replace it with a new insecurity, that people ONLY like you for your assets. That's an issue you have to tackle directly, not try to play around it.
I'm not stable or healthy but I know a few women who are. If you're working on goals and have plans for your future that you're actually likely to achieve you're doing fine.
I guess you’re right
I feel that all of my goals are achievable and healthy realistic goals
I take very good care of myself and all of my goals are related to family and financial security / maintaining healthy relationships
I'm not stable or healthy but I know a few women who are. If you're working on goals and have plans for your future that you're actually likely to achieve you're doing fine.
I'm not sure. I'm convinced I don't truly understand what love is.
>If I can do it so can you. I have learned how to make my oddness appealing to normies.
Even with your hostility you underestimate my stupidity and social retardation. If it were anywhere near as easy as you say it is do you think I'd be here? I tried the dopey class clown thing in school and that just repelled people even more. Whatever you're doing I'm do dumb to figure out on my own. You may be a sperg but at least you're intelligent enough to somehow turn that into an attractive trait.
When did I say it was easy? It's torture and incredibly embarrassing. But you have to do it.
>I'm convinced I don't truly understand what love is.
i've always had trouble saying "I love you" to people because it seems disingenuous. it means a lot to me and i care about the person but "love" has a lot of baggage attached to it. it sounds like a promise. one girl i was dating, i talked to her about it. she said something like "if you care about me, and you like being around me, and you hope to still be around me in the future, that can be what love means".
i'm still weird about it, i mostly just say "love you" but i've started trying to say it more. even my best friend, i love the guy in a platonic way. it's sorta uncomfortable to squeeze it out but it means a certain thing and i think there's value in it.
I've said it and had a deep level of care and affection for another person but it's fickle, not like what people describe feeling for their partners. I'm concerned that having BPD makes me incapable of feeling actual love.
It's good that you're trying to get more comfortable with it.
Full of shit. You choose to be alone because you see yourself as unworthy. Loneliness exists because it feeds your biases.
>You choose to be alone because you see yourself as unworthy.
I'm alobe because of my unworthiness. I cannot fathom why that still hasn't clicked within your thick skull.
That was my cute little way of saying that I sure as fuck didn't have a gf before 21.
>What was your excuse for being a failure then?
Nobody excused me nor called me a failure, Anon McLoadedquestion
I didn't obtain a gf because I lacked social skills and as I developed them, I had less time and opportunity to utilize them.
>I'm alobe because of my unworthiness. I cannot fathom why that still hasn't clicked within your thick skull.
Because I disagree with you. Your lack of worth is an opinion that you choose to believe in.
Women what do you mean when you call a guy "cute"?
I get it when a girl is called "cute", but for a man masculinity is meant to be attractive, right? How can an attractive man be "cute"?
Cute is absolutely a type of attractive, in a good way
Cute is fluffy curly hair, a big dorky grin, dimples, freckles. Cute can be masculine, all masculinity doesn’t have to look the same
I hate this because women just toss this word around and make men feel worse. Everything to them is cute. Imagine being called cute left and right but no one ever wants to take it a step further.
Girls, if you lived with your boyfriend, would you still give him plenty of alone time if he needed that? He still enjoyed being together with you, but sometimes he values being by himself.
Its so bad
I don't even know what it means
I just know
YJK
Do it to spite the world which makes you not want to.
I don't wanna clean my room!
I know you're just joking but that's actually an interesting question. My mom talked about it a little bit and would always say "if you touch a penis you will get pregnant and die" which is a botched quote from mean girls but it definitely contributed to me not having sex until I was 19.
Secondary question, did you have sex Ed in health class?
based and ifyoutouchapenisyouwillgetpregnantanddie-pilled
I did not have sex ed. This is why I fear 50% of the human race.
Women are scary, it makes my penis twitch!
Joining the monastery because "can't find a gf" is insincere. I already weighed this option. Loving God is fine and all, but I find living the scout oath, law, and motto to be more immediately beneficial to myself and my neighbors. The acceptance of homos and subsuming of girl scouts were major fuck-ups on the admin's part, though. GSA could have taken a few lessons from BSA, but BSA encroaching that heavily into GSA turf wrecked the reps of both orgs.
God is a troll
He trolls outside of /b/
He gives his funniest battles to his silliest clowns
Male and I can't, I'm probably ending it tomorrow night.
Think about it from the other angle, I guess: do you really want to die? Do you see yourself ever being truly happy in the future? If the answers are no and then yes, then don't die. Pain is fine, provided it's temporary.
>pain is not real
I'm saying in the context of "if you think your life sucks right now but will be fine later, don't kill yourself, even if things are horrendous now". When you have lost all hope and all options, then death is fine.
I know you're just joking but that's actually an interesting question. My mom talked about it a little bit and would always say "if you touch a penis you will get pregnant and die" which is a botched quote from mean girls but it definitely contributed to me not having sex until I was 19.
Secondary question, did you have sex Ed in health class?
>complete joke
Well damn I feel lucky now. Mine was decent. We got some of it in 8th grade like the more medical side of things but the putting condoms on a banana part didn't come until 10th.
>putting condoms on a banana part didn't come until 10th
Is that a thing that actually happens? I'm not sure we ever had anything like that. Probably hard to do when you have 14yos dunking on you like my health teachers did though.
Male and I can't, I'm probably ending it tomorrow night.
Think about it from the other angle, I guess: do you really want to die? Do you see yourself ever being truly happy in the future? If the answers are no and then yes, then don't die. Pain is fine, provided it's temporary.
How many dates does it take for a relationship to start? The guy I like is going on a third date with the same girl this weekend and I'm worried it means I've missed my chance.
Depends on several factors, but mostly "going exclusive" and what that means to both parties. I once went on 6 dates before she asked to go exclusive. My lonely ass thought we were already exclusive at the first date because she was the first person to actively chat with me in nearly a year.
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Depends on the party. I think 23 is too old for nightclubs, but that might just be the culture of where I live (it's something people in uni do, not people with jobs). Loud house parties, maybe 30ish, but that's mostly just because past that age parties become less appealing.
This isn't really a question towards either gender but is hatefucking a real thing? How does that occur? What's it even like? I like giving my partner a lot of pleasure during sex and I can't imagine doing that for someone I despise.
I think it's just a porn fantasy but I hear about it a lot.
Hatefucking is just make up sex that starts when you're still mad at each other. The movie version where you have sex with someone you actually despise or find distasteful isn't real.
Women, how would you react to me giving a surprise chiropractic session, implying we're in a relationship? I just pounce on you and start clicking your joints then give you a massage.
>surprise
Not well. You'd probably hurt me because I tensed up.
>putting condoms on a banana part didn't come until 10th
Is that a thing that actually happens? I'm not sure we ever had anything like that. Probably hard to do when you have 14yos dunking on you like my health teachers did though.
Yep. We passed the condom around the room and took turns putting it on the banana with proper procedure. We also learned a lot about STDs. We were 16 at that point.
>passed the condom around the room and took turns putting it on the banana with proper procedure.
Wait, they did this (frankly, stupid) demo and only shelled out for one condom?
Christ I'm so happy I self taught sex ed.
>passed the condom around the room and took turns putting it on the banana with proper procedure.
Wait, they did this (frankly, stupid) demo and only shelled out for one condom?
Christ I'm so happy I self taught sex ed.
I had never touched a condom before I got enough out of it to figure it out when the real deal happened. I'm glad I had the experience vs having none at all. I don't have a dick to practice on.
>got enough out of it to figure it out when the real deal happened.
...it's a condom. It's so incredibly simple. How did you not feel insulted by being given instructions on how to use one?
for the weird type of women who post here, what sort of places do you go to where men could meet you?
i don't think i like the "normal" women i run into at bars and clubs.
we all log off and go normie >I'm not the man you think I am!
might be age, idk
might be your scene, idk
the girls ITT are the same girls IRL :0
NOT FEMALE
NOT CUTE!!!
I don't hate men I hate the shitty way some of them have treated me and the vile things some of them have done to people. I'm wary of men, not hateful.
Horrendous. My life was going fairly well, better than ever before, up until recently. Today I made my mind up, I can't handle falling from this, so I'm just going to end it. I'm tired, living is painful, and yes, I will take the easy way out.
I had my entire life organized for a specific future which is no longer accessible. This is after my life got significantly better. If I were like I were when I was a kid, my life would already suck so it'd be fine, but now I've known joy and love so it's worse.
Don't wanna give too many details bc it could come around to others and they'd know it's me
Woke up early for once, got a few things done, calls made, good breakfast of scrambled eggs with fishsticks and Skittles, still managed to be late, got a crippling headache out of nowhere, spent my break lying in the grass outside, ate lunch alone, hustled to get work done, went home with my feet aching and my thighs sore from kettlebells on Monday. I still have to put the trash out and destress so I csn sleep tonight and do it all again tomorrow.
A bit of a mix.
i just started riding my bike again recently and i bunnyhopped a curb but i didn't bring the back wheel up high enough so it slammed into the curb and popped the back wheel. i had to walk my bike back to my car after class and a girl walking next to me made some comment about the wheels being dryrotted or some shit i dunno and i told her what happened and she was like "oh man sorry i didn't realize your tire was actually flat!" and we talked for like two minutes and then we parted ways and she was like "sorry about the bike good luck!" and i was like "no worries have a good one" and that made me feel good.
Went to the internship fair and there was nothing related to my major.
The interviews I was guaranteed haven't materialized and I probably wouldn't have gotten the internship in the first place.
I mean "they" as in the doctor dummy. They don't let you get your tubes tied unless you're over 30 and have kids already unless it's medically necessary. And you used to have to get your husband's permission I don't know if that's still a thing. My mom got hers tied almost 20 years ago.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Say you're trans and they'll cut your whole womb out by the next day.
1 week ago
Anonymous
No one is doing entire hysterectomies for trans men. That's a hugely invasive procedure.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they do though.
foids:
does your bf ever "resend" nudes you sent him earlier back to you while sexting? both of the men I've sexted have sent me back my nudes as to say"this is you" or something and I think it's kind of funny/awkward to see those embarrassing photos of myself again after I deleted them off my device
moids:
do you ever do this? send previous nudes back to your girl? why?
>do you ever do this? send previous nudes back to your girl? why?
No but I have thought of doing it.
Not so much do be like this is you, more like this is so sexy I want you to do this again.
But I never have because it seems really strange and she might even think I meant to send it to someone else.
>But I never have because it seems really strange and she might even think I meant to send it to someone else.
that's never crossed my mind, I just assume you're being a horny weirdo lol
I always get a little embarrassed when it happens though
male
yes i've done it because i think it's funny.
especially if it's out of the blue. like she's at the grocery store and goes "you want anything?" and i send her a picture of her spreading her butthole.
the worst is when they pop back with me gripping my dick like a caveman. i prefer when she just goes "omg im at target what the fuck" and i send the sunglasses emoji
I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they do though.
Getting your tubes tied is not the same as getting your uterus removed. A tubal ligation is pretty easy you can leave the hospital the same day, with a hysterectomy you're there for several days.
>I don't want him to jerk off to porn, only to me
i don't think this is necessarily a reasonable request. the last girl i was seeing literally did not say no to anything sexual. i mean, nothing was off the table. understand what i mean when i say that.
and still, sometimes i want to beat off to a big huge fat woman. sometimes i want to beat off to some asian woman getting groped on a subway. it doesn't mean i want to actually fuck the big fat woman, it doesn't mean i want to fuck the asian woman. it doesn't mean i want to fuck anyone else, it's just a thing i do.
doesn't mean the nudes aren't appreciated either. it's more the act of getting them rather than the content itself, like "hey check THIS out", like a little gift that shows she was thinking about me.
It also makes me feel old. That sounds like a distinctly zoomer thing to do.
Then maybe date someone decent? I mean I consider porn just as bad as cheating.
Was it your initiative to start sending nudes or did your bf ask you to?
Fuck, I really wish I didn't stumble upon her twitter.
Not only did she like something about 6'4 guys, but also a lot of things about men, like 'why as a guy would you play hard to get when its hard to even like you guys anyways'. Like we're boyfriend and girlfriend, why is she liking stuff like this?
I think I need to bring this up to her next time I see her. I'll listen and not accuse her of anything but I need to tell her I found her twitter and some of it seemed a little weird to me. I'll probably look insecure but idfk. I feel like shit right now.
Is this incel shit I'm posting? Should I not care that she liked a joke about 6'4 guys being hung?
I'm trying to think about one of my old friends, he is also my height at like 5'8 but was cool as fuck and probably wouldn't give a shit about this, so i'm trying to channel that energy
interesting lol. i haven't looked at it like that.
um... i guess no? lol.
she's just prettier than most girls i've dated. i want to make it work, femcel or not. but interesting perspective.
>She's femcelposting
Seems like the kind of posting 99% of women do on social media to me
says it seems somewhat typical? but yeah. she clearly was burned buy a guy in the past (she told me as much).. a lot of posts about like 'the only man i like is my dad' - this was from months before we met though.. so idk. i'd be happy to be the guy to turn her opinion around, but maybe i'm not doing that as well as i thought i was. blah.
whatever - i'm meeting her first family this weekend (cousin) and will meet her parents next month. she seems serious about me. so i'll try to ignore this stuff for now i guess but its hard
Eh yea fair enough. I think I'll bring it up to her and be like 'soo you like tall guys huh?' or something and sort of keep it light, and hope she responds all like 'its a joke babe relax!' in which case i won't care. but if she gets all defensive and uppity, that will seem like a red flag to me.
I'm not sure about the best way to go about it, but if she gets defensive then I (personally) would end things then and there as she doesn't seem to respect you
I think that makes sense... yeah
I mean it is a little weird maybe that I snooped around and found her twitter but I don't think its THAT weird. We did talk about looking for each others social media and stuff before and she said like 'well follow each other soon' so its only natural I would be curious. Anyways idk, if I see her next time and she's all sweet and great, I'll maybe just drop it. But I just get upset too because on days I don't see her, she barely messages/calls me and I do more of the reaching out... so idk... I'm really just in my head a lot here lol. Haven't felt for a girl in a long time so... its tough for me... I'm needy too I guess..
Been dating for like 5 weeks now, but we went past the dating stage to being official about 1 week ago now. So, pretty early still. I want to get past this early stage. Yesterday though, she had a work event at night that fell through and so she asked me to meet her for a happy hour... and it was one of the best times we've had yet. She was all over me and very sweet and cute. She's amazing in person. But then when I don't see her I get weird vibes
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>being official about 1 week
alright lets cool it on the stalking her twitter one week into being together. you're at like a 8 or 9 right now crank it back to maybe a 3 or 4. take it easy, let it ride for a couple weeks, see if anything changes, then consider going "uh the stuff u say on twitter kinda makes me upset"
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Anonymous
5 Weeks, isn't alot of time. However her going out of her way to invite you for drinks is a good sign. I would play it by ear and see if it's appropriate to bring it up at all. You could wait and see if similar posts continue since even if she does like you, 5 weeks isn't much. If you're official for any substantial period of time and she's still posting these behind your back that's pretty fishy to me specially if something feels off
Oh Jesus the way you were talking about it I assumed you had been together for months. Slow your roll bud.
Hah, alright, thank you all, I appreciate that. That makes me feel better actually. Yeah, I guess I'm pretty crazy. I'll just fuckin relax lol.
1 week ago
Anonymous
5 Weeks, isn't alot of time. However her going out of her way to invite you for drinks is a good sign. I would play it by ear and see if it's appropriate to bring it up at all. You could wait and see if similar posts continue since even if she does like you, 5 weeks isn't much. If you're official for any substantial period of time and she's still posting these behind your back that's pretty fishy to me specially if something feels off
1 week ago
Anonymous
Oh Jesus the way you were talking about it I assumed you had been together for months. Slow your roll bud.
What do men think of female cucks?
What would you think of your girlfriend telling you she watches female cuck porn (her bf/husband has sex with other women) or has this fetish?
>What do men think of female cucks?
I don't think they exist >What would you think of your girlfriend telling you she watches female cuck porn (her bf/husband has sex with other women) or has this fetish?
I don't believe her
"Female cucks" are just girls who unwillingly share Chad because they'd rather be his sidepiece than an average man's gf
what are your thoughts on men who get cosmetic surgery? It seems like the general view of society is that it "just screams insecurity" and admittedly I used to buy into that, but if technology gives you the means with little side effects why not? I ask because I've been thinking of getting lazer treatment for a pesky acne scar.
even for something simple like an acne scar? It's not like I'm considering bone lengthening surgery. My dermatologist even said I may be able to do the treatment and consultation the same day as little as a couple hundred bucks.
I'm not a fan of the invasive ones that come with risks but laser hair removal or what you want to do seems pretty tame. I have a gross scar on my neck I wouldn't mind doing that to.
yeah I guess I should have clarified which kind since there's such a broad range, from benign cosmetic surgeries to pretty extreme ones.
male, i had braces. that's a "cosmetic surgery". and it made me a lot happier and more confident.
i had a mole on my cheek that i didn't like, got it removed. did it matter? no, but i didn't like it.
dude if you don't like a thing about you, fix it. yes, it's a rabbit hole, don't inject fillers or get implants to change your eye color. but if you don't like a spot on your nose, or that you're crosseyed, just fuckin do it if it bothers you. no one will give a shit one way or the other, so if it makes you feel better, go for it.
>i had braces. that's a "cosmetic surgery"
same. Don't know why I'm being so neurotic about this in particular. No I don't like having a crater in my face from a massive zit I had when I was a teenager. Fuck it, if it's cheap enough, and 90% sure it will be, I'll just do it.
I'm not a fan of the invasive ones that come with risks but laser hair removal or what you want to do seems pretty tame. I have a gross scar on my neck I wouldn't mind doing that to.
It's a great idea. Never understood why ugly men who make good money don't just get surgery instead of whining constantly that women don't want them. If you can afford it, do it
>the men at work have always been ugly or old dudes so they're basically invisible to me >never understood how anyone could feel attracted to coworkers >new guy started this week >young and handsome
Oh fuck. I whipped my head around every time he walked by like "damn, he really looks like that?" How do I keep myself from being distracted by him further, ugh
Imagine for a moment that you're playing paintball. You've spent a ton of money on gear, literally thousands of dollars. Then some giggling asshole wearing a lime green sports bra and jeans pops out of the bushes and rekts you.
I would like to be that giggling asshole.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Still not getting why it has to be a sports bra but I respect your vision
1 week ago
Anonymous
>why it has to be a sports bra
Because it's funny.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Can't argue with that. I think it'd be funnier with a bodycon mini dress though. Still wear a cup of course.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>bodycon mini dress
Not bad, but I'm not sure I'll be able to maintain mobility in one.
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's easy to be mobile in one! They ride up though so your ass might be out but that could be to your benefit if you're going for shock factor.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>bodycon mini dress
Not bad, but I'm not sure I'll be able to maintain mobility in one.
Actually, the dress might be a better shitpost:exposed skin ratio.
I got into drugs and stopped caring about school, I skateboarded a lot and got black out drunk at local metal shows that my friends put on almost every weekend.
I grew from being an awkward, cross country running, late bloomer, to homecoming king. It was fun; life was finally good until Covid took away my last 3 months of school.
>Covid denied you the one almost enjoyable part of highschool
I'm genuinely sorry anon I still can't fathom how much the pandemic must have fucking SUCKED for kids
nta but yeah covid started at the end of my HS senior year and then totally ruined my freshman year of college because everything was online. to be honest I should have taken a gap year in-between to let things go at least a little bit back to normal instead of having to do basically all online classes freshman year. I don't have any friends at college because I wasn't able to establish myself really (or I hope that's why lol)
>to be honest I should have taken a gap year in-between
basically what i did. when they started doing zoom courses i was in my sophomore year, and i just thought "if i wanted to do online school i would have done it". i didn't enroll the next semester. i did some remote work, got into different hobbies, visited friends and family in other states. it was fun. finally going back this fall. maybe took a bit of a longer break than i wanted but i'm glad i did it and i grew a lot.
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I played wow all days with the boys and was in marching band and was on the drumline.
I missed so much school in 4 years that I actually missed an entire school year by the end
Still passed with a 3.7 gpa
Nta. Not sure what 3rd worlders are doing but the primary goal of the US education system is to churn out obedient workers/consumers who follow orders and don't ask questions.
India for example, total shithole but they take education extremely seriously, have long schooldays filled with intense work and high expectations. No "inclusion" bullshit and zero tolerance for laziness. Hence they churn out engineers and doctors like crazy.
Nta. Not sure what 3rd worlders are doing but the primary goal of the US education system is to churn out obedient workers/consumers who follow orders and don't ask questions.
Actually the primary goal is to dumb everything down to retard levels, then continuing passing kids to the next grade even if they failed everything anyway. No holding anyone back or accountability for actually meeting standards because it might hurt the poor baby's feelings uwu So you end up with high school graduates who can't speak English, or can't read, or can't do mental math, and we have to constantly import foreign workers for STEM jobs.
After all the shit I've had to deal with on dating apps, once I actually find a bf I gonna appreciate him so much and never let him go. I cannot go back to this shit ever again once I get out. Anyone else feel like this? Why does online dating have to be so awful goddamn
Idk, dating apps were okay, but too many creeps and mentally unwell people. I was social at the same time so got to keep my sanity.
When I did meet my gf I didn’t let go
It makes me jealous, like what am I doing wrong? Then I start feeling misogynistic, like she probably just likes him for his money or thinks he won't cheat because he's so fuck ugly
Have you considered that that attitude right there is why nobody likes you?
1 week ago
Anonymous
My therapist and my mom think I'm cool
1 week ago
Anonymous
Your mom has to love you unless you're a pedo or a murderer and your therapist is paid to listen to you. Might want to raise the bar for yourself a little.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Is it bad that I know what you mean and this just makes me want to murder someone
my therapist wants my cock I'm pretty sure
Because attraction is a lot more than looks. It can get you in the door or make people more likely to perceive you positively but they're obviously doing something right
they're probably charming or smart or nice or fun to hang out with. I'll start to see you as charming
that can make me perceive you as attractive even if you are not considered conventionally attractive
i started dating this short fat girl and originally it was just about having someone to have sex with regularly because i was lonely. she was fun to talk to and all but definitely not long term material. i even wrote something similar in my journal. well, time moved on and she lost some weight and i ended up not really caring about that stuff. i liked her a lot. we dated for about 5 years.
in a weird twist of fate, the fact that i'd sort of built the relationship on being initially aloof and distant bit me in the ass because i'd carved those grooves so deep that it felt like i couldn't change my behavior later on, and we broke up.
Currently, during times of inflation, might as well go somewhere with actually good food because it seems like the shit garbage chains always puff up their prices first . buying from them is a rip off
That is the top dummy. The first diners were literally the dining cars of trains. It's a specific kind of restaurant. Applebee's themselves say they're a "grill and bar".
I want to approach one qt at gym but shes kinda young.
She does glance at me very often, and last time i think she was trying to get my attention.
Yesterday she was doing some exercise and we had brief eye contact in mirror, and then she tried extra hard during exercise, and then sat down on a floor exhausted with face red.
Cute!
Should i walk up some day and say i see her often and she has nice technique on exercises.
Repressing your attraction to her is unhealthy but also don't sexually harass her. Just strike up a normal conversation and gauge the tone of her reaction. If she's too young for you chances are she'll see you as a mentor figure honestly. Sad but true. Gone are the greek days where it was socially acceptable to rape one's pupils
just go talk to her, you know how to start a conversation right?
Women don't go to the gym to have conversations with random creeps, they go there to work out. Why do men feel entitled to women's attention even when it's in a place like a gym or grocery store where she's just trying to get things done?
Ladies
if your date took you on a dinner date, but you had to wait outside the restaurant in a line, does this change your opinion of him and the date.
I try really hard to look interesting. That makes me happy. Shit talkers (male) say I look like a clown and a serial killer . Women look at me a lot
>ahhhh it's the demoralization squad
Look up the average number of sexual partners if you don't want to believe that people are having sex.
my bodycount is 20 and apparently the average is 4. Over the years I've had luck on tinder but I tend to make women insecure during conversation somehow. I don't know how to stop . I feel elitist
>Shit talkers (male) say I look like a clown and a serial killer . Women look at me a lot
if there was a clown serial killer sitting across from me in a waiting room i would probably look at them a lot.
Only "ironically". And weirdly it's more concentrated in the lgbtqia+ community.
I try really hard to look interesting. That makes me happy. Shit talkers (male) say I look like a clown and a serial killer . Women look at me a lot
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my bodycount is 20 and apparently the average is 4. Over the years I've had luck on tinder but I tend to make women insecure during conversation somehow. I don't know how to stop . I feel elitist
Well this shit talker (female) thinks your main problem is probably being annoying.
It's not in my perception. The guy I know was short but he was decidedly hot and not in a gay way.
I drink it about a month, and I still tired of being.
Why I should be alive?
[...]
Well, I was on a therapy and it doesn't work.
drink? And if you mean you've only been taking it for a month that's not long enough to get the full effect and you're not on your maintenance dose yet. Wait it out.
Strong people are like big dogs, weak people are like little dogs. The aggressive, angry, loud ones are the small ones because the big ones don't feel threatened or like they have to prove anything.
Femanons did you do a bunch of lesbian stuff at sleep overs?
All this talk about Devin being a gay name reminded me of my friend Devin and other friends in middle school and they'd do gay shit every time there was a sleepover.
>What gay shit did you do?
I mean I didn't engage in it, but they would spoon with each other while sleeping and I believe they were touching each others cocks, they tried to get me to join them but I really wasn't interested, the next morning I spooned with a female friend that was there too, but in a different room so I think I got the better hand.
Only once. Practice kissing. And it was weird. Looking back I think that friend had a crush on me.
Ah no wait that's not completely true there was another friend I had who insisted on wearing nothing but a t-shirt to bed and always tried to get me to touch her boobs.
So say I am at a bar and see a girl I want to talk to, or she starts talking to me, can I leave my group and hangout with her?
That is what I'm supposed to do right?
What do you mean can you? You got legs don't you? Or wheels I guess.
Should I say something to them first before I walk away?
They're your friends man not mine. Not trying to be mean but how do you have friends if you're so unsure of how to socially interact with others?
I don't actually have friends, I'm just talking about going to the bar with my brother.
That...makes more sense. I presume you know your brother well enough to know whether or not he'd be put off by you wandering away without saying anything?
In most groups, if it's not a special event, yes. But you don't leave the bar without letting your group know. Often just a quick text will do.
You don't want them wondering where you went or waiting on you.
With women, it's often the opposite where one can be singled off from the herd but the others will eventually come collect her, leaving no drunken barslut behind!
>Bad social skills
>No close friends ever
>Not extroverted enough for friends
>3 years in college and still no friends
>8 inch cock, but that's way too big for most girls, so no sex appeal whatsoever
Why should I have any motivation to do anything if my improvements are meaningless? I go to the gym and run 5 days and for what? So that I and only I know that I wasted my time and my youth maintaining health? Most Americans are fat asses and still have girlfriends and wives so what's the use? The only reason I even go is because I don't have any worthwhile hobbies and no friends to hang out with. It's borderline a bad habit and mental illness at this point. I literally don't have any reason to go but go anyway because I'm stupid. It's not fun anymore and no one's gonna noticed any gains I make since I'm so tall.
>"But but but you're tall they want tall guys"
Midwit, your hight and looks are meaningless if you have a stale personality. The chads you drool over usually have extroverted personalities that can entertain people. Most of those do not have that so please stop falling for the "just be tall" meme
What do you actually want out of life?
What is the one goal you have above all else?
Figure that out and devote your every action towards that goal, no matter how impossible it is.
Working towards failing to achieve your goal is infinitely more fulfilling than nothing.
How does this translate into being good enough to get a girl? What you should just seems like pointless distractions to force myself to forget how much of a shitty human I am. I guarantee both of you have either already been swimming in women or are already married or both. It's always THOSE guys that downplay how important getting a girl is.
You're like me when I used to get angry at the advice "you can't truly love someone else if you don't love yourself". You only understand the advice once you're out of the shitty mindset.
The girl part is irrelevant for now, fitness is just good for your health, if you care about that.
>how much of a shitty human I am
Why do you think you're a shitty person?
>both of you have either already been swimming in women or are already married or both
I'm kissless at 25 lol, all my dating attempts crashed and burned (actual swimming is a great hobby though, I miss it sometimes)
>The girl part is irrelevant for now,
For what? Because you say so? I'm 21 and not having a relationship ever is objectively fucking weird. My mom occasionally asked me why I don't have a goddamn girlfriend and it sends me into a depressive mood whenever she asks. I'm starting to think she does it as a sort of way to mock me because she knows she's the one who raised me to never be good enough for one and likes making other people miserable
>Why do you think you're a shitty person?
Not a single best friend since like second grade. Black, so that automatically knocks me down a few pegs in the attractiveness and desirability category (ESPECIALLY to western modern black women, funnily enough). Virgin, which means no experience and most women won't do it with experience. Imagine being so worthless that you can't even please your girlfriend correctly. Me liking experience might be appealing to another virgin female But what if she isn't? She will be accustomed to guys that already have experience and then she'll be stuck with me who Will probably be nervous. You should have gotten over being nervous by the time you were 18 at the very latest.
I don't give two shits about my measly little health if I'll be alone and constantly contemplating suicide. The fattest ugliest people alive can still have girlfriends. The people with ugly personalities can still get girlfriends. Me? I don't fucking have a personality. I'm sure this is the part where you ignore everything I say because you have no counter argument, or get needlessly angry at me, right? That's how it always goes
take the enlightenment pill anon, you can learn to be content alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ucev7Ry1QM
If this does not remove my boringness and get girls, I will not even entertain it. I'm not clicking on it. Be useful for once in your life
>I guarantee both of you have either already been swimming in women or are already married or both. It's always THOSE guys that downplay how important getting a girl is.
And what of those of us who never gave a shit about muh females, don't give a shit about muh females, fucked a female anyway to see what the fuss was about and still don't see why you give so much of a shit?
Why is your entire world comprised of excuses for your miserable worldview?
>It's always THOSE guys that downplay how important getting a girl is.
I ain't downplaying SHIT mothertrucker.
I was addressing the damn question:
>Why should I have any motivation to do anything if my improvements are meaningless?
Why are they meaningless?
>How does this translate into being good enough to get a girl?
Why is getting a girl so damn important?
If you can't answer it, you have a problem.
Now you son of a bitch, answer the questions:
>What do you actually want out of life?
>What is the one goal you have above all else?
If you haven't figured yourself out, you aren't going to find motivation to do jack shit. You're just going to wonder why being healthy doesn't make you more charming and pick your navel as you sink into depression.
What do you want and why?
>inb4 Chad gets girls without self reflection!
Good for him. We're talking about you.
>Why are they meaningless?
What has it got in me? I don't even look that much stronger if at all. I'm still alone. Still friendless. It's a waste of time
>Why is getting a girl so damn important?
Is that important to you anymore because you've already had tons of girls. I've read enough of your posts to know that you were one of the "shy" guys that still got girls because he was charming. As to why I care, why the actual fuck shouldn't I care? YOU cared at some point or else you wouldn't have even bothered trying to get girls in the first place. You're supposed to want companionship, especially from females.
>>What do you actually want out of life?
Companionship (I thought I've made that abundantly clear). A job that can allow me to live comfortably, whether that be alone or with a wife. Friends. General happiness. You know, the sbit normies like you love and take for granted but get ass blasted when people like me want it.
>What has it got in me? I don't even look that much stronger if at all. I'm still alone. Still friendless.
So you believed that by doing it you would look much stronger and therefore not be alone and have friends? How dud you imagine that was going to work?
When we put energy into things, we should have an idea of what success will look like and how the effort could lead to it.
The plan should never be:
1. Work out
2. Look stronger
3. ????
4. Not be alone and have friends
For the record, being physically healthy pretty much facilitates any other life goal. It's always a good idea. But it's not sufficient. Being healthy helps you bang supermodels but won't achieve it on its own.
>you were one of the "shy" guys that still got girls because he was charming.
*Eventually* got girls because I taught myself social skills through practice and failure. Significant difference.
And why is getting a girl so damn important?
>why the actual fuck shouldn't I care?
"Why not?" isn't a reason to care about something on this level.
>YOU cared
I know. I still do. What's more, I know WHY I care. I'm not saying that you shouldn't care. I'm asking: WHY DO YOU CARE?
Answer the question. Think about for more than a second.
>Companionship
>job that can allow me to live comfortably
>Friends
These are good answers. If you had to trade all of the rest but be guaranteed one, which one would it be and why?
>General happiness
What does this mean to you? Happiness is a moment of emotion, not an achievement.
>Happiness is a moment of emotion, not an achievement.
Is it of you haven't felt it since you were a naive dumb child. That didn't realize how worthless he was.
>If you had to trade all of the rest but be guaranteed one, which one would it be and why?
Companionship. Lacking it eats away at my soul. I have an online friend who is acquainted with millionaires or even billionaires come up and he always tells me stories of how even rich people commit suicide for various reasons, with loneliness being one of the most common reasons, so before you tell me "dumb fuck you were supposed to pick the good job route", keep that in mind.
>not an achievement.
>Is it of you haven't felt it since
I was worried that you would misunderstand that. I mean that happiness isn't a state that a person achieves and maintains, like "I am happy now." Happiness comes in moments and passes. It isn't a mat that sits on your doorstep or a trophy that sits on your shelf.
>Companionship
Okay. Excellent. Now what is involved in having companionship? Is it looking stronger? Is it having a good job? Is it cup stacking?
Those can help. But the primary element involved in having companionship is being enjoyable to be with by people you can be with. This means being near people and being perceived as enjoyable to be with by those people. Ideally, you'd want to be with people you enjoy being around.
The task becomes identifying the kinds (multiple) of people you enjoy being around and determining the traits that they enjoy being around. This might require experimentation and getting out of your comfort zone.
Do you you have any thoughts about that?
>inb4 all people only ever want to be around gorgeous and exciting billionaires
Sure. That's why they kill themselves.
People are not homogeneous and nobody just likes one thing. Think.
>Do you you have any thoughts about that?
I don't know where to start. I tried reaching out more by trying new places to hang at but all 3 attempts (at three different environments) failed.
Failure is part of the process. Technically, I failed for a decade but I developed alcoholism and financial issues at the same time I learned *most* of this.
I'm 21. What else should I try? I tried a dnd shop, coding club, and the gaming room at my university. I feel like a fish out of water in all three places. ESPECIALLY the dnd place.
>I feel like a fish out of water in all three places. ESPECIALLY the dnd place.
I've literally "fit in" any place I have ever been. It's about the people. Spending time with people. Learning what you like and dislike about people and what they like and dislike about me.
I once met a girl who hated me because of my shoes and I thought was wonderful because I learned what a shallow thot was and was delighted that I repelled her. I learned which kinds of nerds I enjoy and which annoy me. I learned that I love to dance most people I meet dancing aren't don't share m as ny other interests with me so I am happy to dance alone.
I explore new interests when given a chance. I am hit and miss with cooking and with people who are into it.
I tried volunteering. It wasn't for me but I met a few cool people who invited me to Native American concert. I go to concerts with friends far more into the music than me.
Find and make excuses to spend time with people. And don't start by looking for your companion. Just learn about people, hope you get lucky, and expect disappointment.
I reached out repeatedly expecting rejection. Rejection was actually my goal because I spent so much time holding back.
Eventually, I reached out with the goal of getting rejected and got a gf instead. It was literally like walking forward, expecting to fall off the cliff, and just continuing forward. I was in brand new territory without a clue so I just kept trying and expecting failure only to be surprised.
Then I learned how much I never knew.
>Failure is part of the process.
How am I supposed to use that to help me when im less of a human being fir bkt having something as simple as a girlfriend by 21? It's impossible for any sane man to not hate himself because of this.
>im less of a human being fir bkt having something as simple as a girlfriend by 21? It's impossible for any sane man to not hate himself because of this.
But you don't hate yourself because you don't have a gf, you just hate yourself. Maybe you don't admit it to yourself, but you really want a gf because you think if someone can love you, you'll be permitted to love yourself, but it doesn't work like that. People aren't attracted to misery, bitterness, or desperation. They want someone who can support themself. You have to work on yourself more man
I know because I'm like you, I just wish I made sense eof it sooner
>But you don't hate yourself because you don't have a gf, you just hate yourself.
What makes you certain of that?
OK, if you genuinely hate yourself solely because you don't have a girlfriend then that just makes you a whiny homosexual.
It's being unworthy of abt friends and companionship that causes it.
And who determines that worth?
Idk, sounds like a question to ask yourself
>And who determines that worth?
No friends, gfs, likable qualies, status (you guys obsess over this even more that normies) = why the fuck do you even exist?
>No likable qualities/ status
Both are controlled by you, friends and relationships are derivative of being a pleasant or interesting person to be around.
>(you guys obsess over this even more that normies)
Evidently not as much as you. Touch grass
>Touch grass
>Nothing happens
>friends and relationships are derivative of being a pleasant or interesting person to be around.
I don't know how to do that
NTA, but 'touch grass' is a shitty way of saying you should go outside more, talk to people, get off the computer, etc.
Already did
. It was a worthless effort and always will be because nothing I try leads to anything meaningful
>3 attempts
Come back after 300
>It was a worthless effort and always will be because nothing I try leads to anything meaningful
Well, yeah, it will be with that attitude.
Attitude is meaningless. Either it works or it doesn't
The fact I bothered to go to new places is evidence I tried and wanted to try. A normie like you would've succeed on the first try with no effort. Why do people like me have to try hundreds of times while you just have to exist?
>normie like you
Bitch I have been depressed for 15 years and am diagnosed with a handful of shit including anxiety and a personality disorder. If I can do it so can you. I have learned how to make my oddness appealing to normies. It takes practice. More than 3 tries.
>If I can do it so can you. I have learned how to make my oddness appealing to normies.
Even with your hostility you underestimate my stupidity and social retardation. If it were anywhere near as easy as you say it is do you think I'd be here? I tried the dopey class clown thing in school and that just repelled people even more. Whatever you're doing I'm do dumb to figure out on my own. You may be a sperg but at least you're intelligent enough to somehow turn that into an attractive trait.
>A normie like you would've succeed on the first try with no effort
nagger I'm 24 and I've never had a gf.
I joined the military, I've finished school, I've gone to parties, go out with friends, and I have my own my own hobbies. It's a lot more than joining 3 shitty clubs in uni and calling it quits. You're just a bitch
>I've touched grass, I swear!
>21
Just stop. You're a terminally online college student with a limited scope of the world around himself. Go get a real job, do something cool. Anything other than the innate bullshit you're doing now, because clearly that's not good enough for you. Do peace corps, volunteer, find something and get passionate about it; do anything! Just stop crying on the internet like a baby because you're too lazy and unmotivated to better your life
>go wageslave
>better yet go actualslave for free
kys
Your refusal to express positive self esteem is part of why you're unworthy. You refuse to change. The fault lies partially with your stubborn addiction to feeling bad.
You aren't wrong - you genuinely are unlikeable. But only because you work really hard at being a beacon of misery.
>Your refusal to express positive self esteem is part of why you're unworthy.
I have literally nothing to feel good about though. Friends have repeatedly asked me to list reasons why I should ~~*love myself*~~ and I cannot tell them for the life of me. THEY can't really list anything either or else they'd just flat out tell me why I'm supposedly not walking filth.
>You refuse to change.
Oh yes, going out of my way to hang out with complete strangers and force myself into a hobby I don't even like is The shining example of refusing to change. Working out to maintain my health knowing it will never get anyone to like me is not wanting to change and improve. Asking people how to unfuck the utter failure of a human I am is not wanting to change. Because people who ask for help NEVER wanna change. My bad.
You breathe
You eat
You sleep
You know English
You post opinions on LULZ
You agree with yourself
Having self esteem is ez if you want to. But you people legit refuse to be happy about having opinions that you like, and I don't know why.
What reason do I have to like myself?
>and I don't know why.
You have a relatively easy life for you naively speak to other people as if you think getting rid of negative thoughts it's just as easy as just not doing it. You've never struggled with anything in your life. You're like a rich fag teenager (that the parents that actually did shit to earn the wealth, the entitled child that did nothing) telling an impoverished person "just get a job and you'll be like me its that ez"
Bruh cmon my life has been constant conflict with idiots who refuse to become correct.
I choose to find worth and value in that, but you can't claim I get it for free.
>become correct.
Oh Lord you're the "just turn off your brain bro" idiot aren't you? You're the only dumbass that talks like this. I don't know to ignore anything you specifically say. Arrogant waist of life that lust to pretend he has everything figured out
I'm more deserving than you are, homosexual. I actually have self esteem, unlike you.
Child fuckers have self esteem too, anon. Feeling good about yourself for being mediocre is nothing to brag about
No one is obligated to accept anything you say just as you were not obligated to accept anything I say. The fact you keep saying they should implies you're more concerned with appearing correct and winning an argument than actually helping anybody. Typical dishonest sperg behavior.
Why are you so content with mediocrity? Why not want more for yourself? "I like myself the way i am" is not always a good mindset. You're basically preaching " there's no point in change or improve. Being filth is ok I don't have to fix anything" with extra pseud steps.
>Feeling good about yourself for being mediocre is nothing to brag about
In a vacuum I'd agree with you but the people here suck so much ass at happiness that my basic mid ass is the biggest fish in this small pond.
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>The fact you keep saying they should implies you're more concerned with appearing correct than actually helping anybody
I care about clashing with delusions. I know damn well I can't make you people show worth and value in the words I send you, so I don't try. I just accept you won't agree and I enjoy that clash.
>Typical dishonest sperg behavior.
In what way is it dishonest to talk shit about your delusions because I enjoy talking shit about your delusions?
>Why are you so content with mediocrity?
I'm me and I like me. Plus, I don't judge myself as mediocre, I judge myself as awesome because I agree with all the stuff I agree with.
If I was gonna doubt my worth, it'd be because I don't murder people, or act on my animosity towards fools in a way that solves them. But eh, I'm too lazy or comfort-attached to be a murderer, and I'm cool with that.
I would NOT value social integration because I don't agree with you!
>Why not want more for yourself?
Because I don't care.
>You're basically preaching " there's no point in change or improve. Being filth is ok I don't have to fix anything"
Same thing you preach, except for a society as a whole.
Yeah I'm lazy, but if your peer group collectively has dumb emotions, then why the fuck would you conform and make yourself worse?
I know I'm mid.
But compared to some of the dumbfucks that make up your world, my only sin is that I'm not MORE oppositional.
But sure. I'm too autistic to believe in your feel sad excuses and that is a privilege you do not share.
>You know English
????
And?
Nta but it's pretty much the bar for living in a globally relevant country. It's a litmus test for living in a place people want to live in.
So he's an envious foreigner who thinks merely knowing English will somehow make his life a hundred times better?
Damn you're stupid.
You apparently think merely no one English is something to be proud of. It's the number one goddamn language on planet Earth. It's not exactly a big accomplishment. No foreign nation I've ever been to had a shortage of English speakers. That's like telling me I should feel good about knowing how to tie my shoes
Way to miss the point entirely, dipshit. Stay mad.
A meager accomplishment such as knowing English is nothing to be proud of unless you start at learning at a very late age or as a hobby. Most foreigners start learning and our fluent by the time they're like five. If you think you should be proud of that it's no wonder you have such a low standards for yourself and others.
>seething so hard he can't type and STILL missing the point
kek
Knowing how to tie shoes is a great reason to like yourself.
You refuse to. You LARP that you can't, but in reality you don't want to.
Like, are you going to be the second person I know to think
"Yeah, I have opinions I agree with. That's cool. I like that."?
Are you gonna like yourself for eating slerping and memeing because they feel good, and being cool with feeling good is based?
Are you going to value liking the things you like, disliking the things you like, because they're part of how you feel, and you support how you feel?
No, you're gonna be a dipshit and refuse to, because it doesn't meet your arbitrary made up standards of what "counts" for self esteem.
And that is how it's a choice. Rather than opting to feel good about yourself for any of the stuff you do, you decide that the only valid reasons to have self esteem are ~~*co-incidentally*~~ the things you lack.
>like yourself for eating slerping and memeing because they feel good,
You might as well say I should ~~*love myself*~~ and others should live me for breathing. Your standards for why people should love themselves are abysmally low. Do you have ANY standards for yourself or others?
It's obvious you're just a dishonest sperg. I'm talking to a brick wall
>Rather than opting to feel good about yourself for any of the stuff you do,
Nothing I do is worth feeling good about it I'm still a virgin loner.
>Do you have ANY standards for yourself or others?
Yes, I don't copy your delusions of misery. I am not a part of your habitual lies. That is a standard.
But sure.
You notice that I choose my standards based on who I am and what I do?
If not, now you're aware.
You on the other hand choose your standards based on things you fail at and lack.
I understand why you make that choice, because misery is an excuse for laziness and denial of action.
But it's as much of a choice as my standards are. And if I choose standards that fit who I am, you could too.
I do not agree with your feel sad bullshit.
>you just hate yourself.
And I hate myself becauuuuuse?
Because misery gives you an excuse to not even try to change your situation. You can act like it's someone else's fault and get out of all the work that comes with being proud of yourself.
It's how it always is. Bad shit happens, and instead of replacing it with good shit (which takes effort), people just stay sad and use their sadness to be demotivated / defer to others.
>You can act like it's someone else's fault
That's how I know you're being a cunt because no one blamed other people. My ineptitude is my own failure as a human. I blamed no one else.
I made a shit assumption again didn't I.
Ah well such is life. Yes, I was wrong.
But if you don't like being inept you should git gud.
I don't have the skills to "git gud". You're supposed to learn that by your teenage years. Instead anyone I'll try to interact with will not want to be friends with me because I'm not a super extrovert and they'll know I'm behind developmentally just by looking at me. You've all seen and been around THAT guy before so you know what I'm talking about
How do you not hate yourself for STILL being behind? You missed the school bus and had to run to school
>How do you not hate yourself for STILL being behind?
Don't waste your time on jealousy
Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind
The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself
Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't
Maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't
Maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the 'Funky Chicken'
On your 75th wedding anniversary
Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much
Or berate yourself either
Your choices are half chance, so are everybody else's.
I am that guy, I simply love myself because I want to.
You need a reason to or else you're insane
You refuse to accept the reasons I listed. You are both insane and bigoted.
Other people determine every single outcome in your life. The only thing you have control over are words you say to them, when you jerk off, and when and if you kill yourself.
They don't determine how I feel about myself and my life.
They don't determine which groups I care about associating with and how I opt to associate.
They don't control if I'm pleasant or defiant.
And when I'm defiant, I sometimes win.
Your loser bullshit is not real.
They dont control your attitude? Thats not pussy, money, shelter, food. Your attitude is immaterial and worth 0.
>Your attitude is immaterial and worth 0.
Correct, so I choose to love myself and my life because ain't nothin' stopping me.
I get food and shelter from autismbux and I never saw the point in 3d pussy.
My basic needs are all met and I have progressed to self actualisation, which I do by telling you that you're a delusional shit cunt in ways you REALLY should be smart enough to learn from, but aren't.
And shit, if I had to live a life where I'm either mugging old people or in jail because money ain't free and people won't value the work I could do with them, so be it! It won't be the most comfortable life but I'll still like myself for living it, as brief as it would be.
Basically, all your feel sad crap? Doesn't apply.
Like, you are aware that you don't HAVE to value social integration, yes? You can value clashing with people too.
You aren't sane
Your standards for "real human" are an excuse you invented because you want to be sad
You are miserable because you choose to be
My lack of friends causes misery
Full of shit. You choose to be alone because you see yourself as unworthy. Loneliness exists because it feeds your biases.
>im less of a human being fir bkt having something as simple as a girlfriend by 21?
I'm less than a human? Cool beans! I get be a demihuman! Maybe a kobold!
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>I'm less than a human?
IM the abnormal one. Why are y'all putting words in my mouth?
That was my cute little way of saying that I sure as fuck didn't have a gf before 21.
Eh, fitness is good for your health and that, maybe you can tone it down a bit but you shouldn't stop completely. Maybe find some other hobbies too to give you more fulfilment. Also maybe see a therapist too cause sounds like you have some depression/defeatism and are isolated
>Why should I have any motivation to do anything if my improvements are meaningless?
Because someone similar to you in this situation would change or mitigate the things that suck about them, formulate a successful strategy and act on it.
And evolution, being the blind watchmaker that she is, gave those same sensations to most people, since most of us can act on them and evolution doesn't care about unsuccessful outliers.
Why are women so cruel to virgins?
How is pic rel being cruel?
Is it really not obvious?
Maybe you posted the wrong picture or something?
I'm trying my hardest to apply your incel mental gymnastics to it and I cannot for the life of me figure out how what she said and what she did is somehow even remotely cruel...... People like you give me hope 🙂
Seriously, am I being gaslit?
Why don't you explain to the class why she's being cruel?
>In B4 "nuh uhh if you can't figure it out yourself you're a retard" cop out
My nagger in Christ I'm pretty black-pilled and I genuinely cannot comprehend how that's cruel. Y'all are acting like she put him on blast on her Instagram or something.
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She's basically lowkey whining about how bad at sex he is and how it's frustrating to her that he's so inexperienced. She's never going to outright say it because that's "mean" but she also wouldn't be asking for "advice" if it wasn't bothering her. It's like when a girl starts asking her male friend for "relationship advice" when really she's just signalling she might be available.
It's not he's just being an incel
nagger she's literally asking how she can help him out lol.
holy shit that pic
That's how women insult men like that
Guy's just anxious. Happened to me once, when I was at girl's place and her parents were away and she told me she's not sure when they be back.
>fourth boyfriend at 18
think the girl is the one with the issues lel
Pic unrelated?
>Why are women so cruel to virgins?
The story posted depicts neither cruelty nor a virgin.
You are out of reality.
Grats man.
>Woman literally gives virgin a chance, trying her best to make him comfortable
>WHY ARE WOMEN SO CRUEL?!?!?!?!?
Sounds like she's already regretting it tbh
It doesn't seem like she's regretting it, just probably feeling bad about being able to comfort him herself. You can feel a little lost without wanting to give up and ditch the person, most sane people are going to try to work through it before jumping ship.
>most sane people are going to try to work through it before jumping ship.
Most people aren't sane these days. It's already clearly a sore point and will probably get worse the more conscious she is of the experience gap. Complaining about it is the first sign of bad new.
>lots of women get incredibly self conscious if their guy doesn't finish
Yet another reason she'll probably get sick of him
I think she's venting, not complaining. You're allowed to talk about your relationship troubles, especially if you intend to try to solve them like she is. Talking things out is how they get solved.
>I think she's venting, not complaining
Venting, complaining, who cares. The minute she starts vocalizing her issues to a third party is the start of the countdown. She's going to get more and more fed up with this virgin loser until some girl she's friends with tells her she can do better and he's probably just a porn addict and she remembers "oh yeah, i've already fucked 6 guys! I CAN do better!" and she monkey branches away. Seen it happen a million times.
You're missing a really important piece of context: lots of women get incredibly self conscious if their guy doesn't finish. I've had an ex start bawling because she couldn't get me off.
Well because of all the jokes about men finishing too quickly, or cumming just by looking at you. We get it in our heads that if we can’t get a man to orgasm, it’s a failure within us. Even though that’s something fairly common and something that happens for infinite reasons
Yes, I'm aware.
I've found guys tend to be more uncomfortable about it. My bf used to apologize so much when he couldn't finish, and my friends have shared similar stories about their men. But regardless of gender, it's not something to worry about. Sex is fun! Have fun!
>and my friends have shared similar stories about their men
why do women talk about their men's sex lives so much
men don't do this
Within two days of knowing a guy, he shared with me that he had tried taking a video of his tinder date giving him head but she caught him and made him delete the video
Yes, men do this too
he was probably just gonna jack off to it
girls tell their friends the make and model of their bf's cock and how long he lasts and what position he cums hardest in
i have never had sex-having friends bring up their gf's pussy
Both men and women overshare about their sex lives and the sex lives of their partners. And the fact that you just dismissed filming a woman in a sexual act without her consent makes it really weird you’re trying to have the moral highground on anything relating to these issues, creep
i'm not "dismissing" it i'm saying i doubt he was going to go show his mates that some thot was sucking his dick
I'm not talking about his sex life, I'm talking about mine. Which does include him, yeah, since he's who I'm fucking. But still, we're talking about our own sex lives. Maybe guys don't do that either - I wouldn't know what guys talk about with no girls around, would I?
Because your aversion to sex talk is not justified and your projected feelings of shame are not real.
I’m assuming it was a jab at her not being a virgin
As if the majority of the men here wouldn’t be a ran through diseased pest if they had enough women willing to sleep with them
They’re forgetting about the “in” part in incel
They have no reason to talk to me. Whenever I do talk to them they comment about how I'm sweet and kind and tall or some shit as if it actually matters.
>not because you're ugly.
No one mentioned being ugly. Stop projecting. The ugliest creatures imaginable can get relationships if they have the right personality and stuff to offer people.
>Could be anxiety. If you like her give her another chance.
She has always seemed socially anxious, but I've given her plenty of chances. Fuck it I'll tell her what's up because I do think she's very special
Do you like albinos?
Sometimes, I worry that girls will think that guys are creeps until proven otherwise. Is this an accurate belief?
No. If you do something creepy I'll assume you're a creep until proven otherwise but if I see some guy on the sidewalk I don't automatically assume he's an awful person. He's just a guy.
Yay. Unrelated, but how does a teen anon make friends and meet people outside school
Sorry kid I haven't been a teen in a decade I have no idea what people your age are up to. My sister that's your age spends most of her time playing videogames and watching tiktoks. I don't think most of them go out very much.
No worries <3
I assume this is true and then prove otherwise.
Wise
gender
reasons why you hate women
Male, because they don't give me sex but they have sex as much as they want
Biologically male, identifies as nonbinary. I don't; if anything, I prefer the company of girls to guys
There's nothing to hate but there is also nothing to admire in the grand scheme.
except true Queens like ada Lovelace.
I hate how much I love them!!! Misogynistic simp I am. Perky little child-bearing bums SHOULD BE IN THE KITCHEN MAKING OnlyFans CONTENT.
Does your phone's autocorrect know the the word "OnlyFans" or did you do that on purpose?
I'm an artisanal baker, I bake good
>>>[s4s]
Girls have you ever fantasized about guy following you in the street to your place and grabbing you unexpectedly for sexual pleasures?
eww
surely at least one did
No.
Second option. Just say hi and chitchat for a minute and let her make the call. She said she wants to take it slow so don't do anything that could be perceived as pushy. She'll get scared.
Good luck out there
Thanks!
>Second option
Ok I'll do that, I was thinking tomorrow but maybe next week might be better. She's very inquisitive about me and we talk quite a bit so if imagine she's getting close to being comfortable.
Yes
Did you catch anything? That would be my worry
Yeah it kinds feels like butterflies and an empty feeling
I'd delete her from any social media and cut contact
What does this mean
I actually think its in part because men and women struggle to be friends without any sexual undertone, and it's just easier for men to be friends and do activities together without feelings being involved making the situation weird.
>sexual undertone
bruh you really gonna be catching feels for some fat yugioh neckbeard
I was more leaning towards a girl enters a group for dnd, one guy gets a crush and makes it weird so she has to leave.
Some men within the scene are attractive
If I liked you, it would be something that gives me pause but not enough to ditch you immediately
You got your answer anyway
Depends on the sort of prostitute
>Depends on the sort of prostitute
Expand on that.
$100 prostitute who doesn't have checks in place vs $1000 prostitute that has constant check ups
>$1000 prostitute
christ, does she have gold encrusted boobs or something?
She's probably 17.
NTA
Depends on your area. They can be supermodel tier
I don't insert dildos, they're all too hard
The US is one of the most expensive places in the world for prostitution outside of Dubai or something. Even fat disgusting uggos command $300+ an hour nowadays. An actual 10/10 who was a cheerleader or IG model or something? Yeah, $1000, actually more like $1500.
realistic answer, thanks femanon
No, I didn't, I got checked several times to make sure I was clean. Good to know that would be your worry (implying there aren't other ones)
>Yes
haha... I was just joking...
>Did you catch anything? That would be my worry
nta but sleeping with prozzies (at least where it's legal) is statistically safer than club thots
not that I advocate it
I'm moving
ta, yeah, I think the same way. At least a literal whore is aware of the danger she's in and takes some precautions. Sluts will fuck anything that moves while taking 0 care of themselves, so they're more dangerous health-wise than a literal prostitute. I have never fucked one of those, fortunately
No, but I have for the inverse~
I want to grab a guy in a dark alley, choke him out, and peg his butthole.
I got a girls number and we've been talking for almost a week. I asked her out a couple days ago and she said shes interested but wants to take it slow. I met her at her work and I go there occasionally to do remote work or study, but haven't since we've started texting. Should I visit and ask if she wants to hang on her break? Or just be there and say hi and hope she suggests it?
>she said shes interested but wants to take it slow
That means "You're option B and I'm not actually going to like you but I'll string you along for attention".
Even if she's a hardcore Christian? She's older than me, too. She said she said no to the lady guy who asked her out. I just imagine she's very wary.
>Lady guy
Last guy, nice typo
Why is that men's apparent lack of empathy only important when guys don't want to listen to female sob stories. do you females really think charities and fundraising for the needy and so on is based on fairy dust ? kek
Femanons, I slept with 3 prostitutes when I was 19 because I was a complete degenerate. Since then, I've changed a lot and I have deep regrets for what I did... Now I actually am very conservative about sex to compensate for what I did. I really really regret what I did and I hope that someday I can marry someone who will forgive me for what I did. I'm really ready to do anything to prove I'm very sorry for my mistake and that it won't happen ever again. I'm afraid I won't find a good woman to settle with if she knows I slept with prostitutes... Femanons, what do you think??
If you regret it and changed your ways there shouldn't be an issue anon. t.f22
thanks femanon
>Femanons, what do you think?
You have severe mental illness
A refusal to be comfortable with yourself
Guilt out of sync with reality
And you're trying to use a woman as your comfort doll to cope with a problem that only exists because you refuse to solve it
I hope for the sake of that woman that you remain alone.
What problem? Yes, I feel guilty about the bad things I've done in my past, I think that's good. I don't think the amount of guilt I have is mental illness
>I don't think the amount of guilt I have is mental illness
You're wrong.
elaborate
So I was wondering how to become more assertive in sexual situations. Also How can I tell if a girl is into me outside of her kissing me? Also how do I be less passive when kissing?
I find it really hard to read body language and indications. I feel like I can't make a move on a girl because if she is talking to me I just think "Oh shes just being nice". I only realise that they like me by making out with me and even then I find it very difficult to go further like groping tits or whatever.
One time a girl started kissing me and I was extremely passive and she just started grabbing my neck, lightly choking me and grinding her knee against my crotch. She even started sucking my tongue as in grabbing my cheeks and saying for me to stick out my tongue and started sucking it and I just let her do it.
I am a virgin in my mid-20s if that helps
If you can't understand body language when you see it no advice through text is going to help you.
>I just let her do it
That's far past when you should have been reciprocating. She was very bold. If I don't get a signal that he likes what I'm doing I back off. As a rule of thumb if she escalates you should escalate back. Example, if she's got her knee in your crotch and your tongue in her mouth I'd say it's fair to go for some under the shirt boob action.
I mean I did find it hot that she did that though I suppose it was also because she was taller than me and was a goth chick.
See its just when I do think they may be into me I have to ask her if she wants to kiss like I'm in kindergarten.
Like I dunno how to initiate kissing without getting the vibe wrong or asking her if she wants to kiss which I imagine a girl doesnt like to hear
>One time a girl started kissing me and I was extremely passive and she just started grabbing my neck, lightly choking me and grinding her knee against my crotch. She even started sucking my tongue as in grabbing my cheeks and saying for me to stick out my tongue and started sucking it and I just let her do it.
You're a natural sub. Don't take it as an insult, subby boys are cute
>Don't take it as an insult, subby boys are cute
doesn't mean girls want to have sex with them
Speak for yourself
pretty sure i "speak" for the overwhelming majority of women
I dont think im a sub, I think I'm just inexperienced though
>"inexperienced"
>had a girl grinding on and trying to make out with him
There's a difference between being inexperienced and literally letting a girl take total control by grinding her knee on your dick, grabbing your face and tellling you to stick out her tongue so she can suck it. Even instinctually you would have taken control of the makeout session.
You're a bottom and theres nothing wrong with that
What do you mean how?
Just be more assertive.
Match her enthusiasm, push for a little more, gauge her comfort, repeat.
I have a gf with a praise/degradation kink. What can I do to praise/degrade her?
Also what can I do physically/mentally to get her really horny and tease her about being horny?
Does it make you horny if i were to put my hand on your hips/thighs and slowly move my hands to your pussy, rubbing you through your panties and slowly escalate from there?
By praise/degradation you mean she's into both at the same time, or what?
Make liberal use of "good girl"
Ask her "You want to be fucked like a good girl or a bad girl?" Works pretty well on a woman I'm seeing.
I'm thinking cringe.. idk
Today I learned I'm getting my first intern next week. What do I, as a 28yo boomer, need to know about interacting with zoomer girls?
Don't.
I am required to, at least to an extent.
Joking answer, have Subway Surfers gameplay in the background whenever talking to her
Serious answer, just don't be too harsh. Lot of us zoomers are fresh out of hope
Do girls feel void between legs when horny? Or need to be "filled"?
I'm just wondering here
yes, they need to be filled up like a gas tank at the gas station
Sort of? I'm most conscious of there being an actual hole there when I'm submerged in water.
Why? Does water easily get inside?
Not easily. But it can. If I tense my muscles (do a kegel) it can suck water in. Or if I was to jump into a pool doing a split it might be unpleasant lol.
>do a kegel
Hot.
>doing a split
Like, a real split? With legs apart? Not sure how it looks like.
whats the consensus like being a anime nerd in regards to being attractive towards women ?
>
If anything, it's a plus, as you'll have common ground. Just don't be a total neckbeard and you should be fine
Okay, prominent fa/tg/uy (but not actually fat) still in his teens. How do I make a move on a girl I'm interested in (I've gotten the whole making friends thing down)
ask her out
You've probably heard this before, but I'm worried about screwing it up
If she likes you and wants to go out with you you'd have to REALLY fuck up for her to say no
And if she doesn't?
Then there's nothing you can do to make her say yes
I was thinking middle split. Middle split is legs out to the side, front split is one leg in front one behind.
>Then there's nothing you can do to make her say yes
I'm aware. Am more worried about botching a potential friendship
>Am more worried about botching a potential friendship
That has a lot more to do with whether or not she's comfortable still being friends with someone who has expressed romantic/sexual attraction to her than it does how you choose to reveal that information.
Aight, that makes sense. Thanks!
>I was thinking middle split. Middle split is legs out to the side, front split is one leg in front one behind
Ahhh... I get it now. Probably should watch more water sports during Olympics, lol.
Same anon, how much do y'all care about moustaches?
She's only saying that to be nice, but you have a good attitude so keep learning what gets her going and you will become her best in due time.
>tfw hot patient waved bye to me earlier and blew a kiss
>tfw I responded with a fucking thumbs up
am I doomed to die a virgin
I would think you're a dork but that's kind of endearing. Don't sweat it. If she thinks you're cute she probably found it funny.
thanks anon I will bluepill myself with this possibility
Also another hot girl earlier in the day asked for my name and was like "you're so sweet... and cute haha"
It's only hot girls that ever do this and I'm a below-average dude so it just throws me for a loop. Do they just tend to be more confident and flirty, like what's the correlation I wonder??
>It's only hot girls that ever do this and I'm a below-average dude so it just throws me for a loop
So I can't say for sure and I know I'm going to get shit for this but as a girl who's been around the block a little...once you've gotten enough dick there's less pressure to get "the best" guy you can in terms of looks and you start appreciating other traits just as much as if not more than physical beauty. I've proven to myself I can get "Chad" so why not expand my palate? I suspect really attractive women go through something similar but they probably don't even need to fuck anyone to get it. They're used to turning down lots of men. They know they can have just about anyone in terms of looks so I think maybe they look for something else.
Thanks for the thoughtful response anon, very good points actually, I think you're onto something...
>dudebro classmates brought me into their friendgroup this year
>first night out together a girl comes up to me and starts flirting with me before kissing me
>dudebros think im a pussyslayer because of this
>im still a virgin
Should I hype myself up as the pussyslayer they seem to think I am?
M
Just act like it's normal, you don't have to pretend like you've done that a million times but you also don't have to denigrate yourself and say that it has never happened before and how no woman will ever love you or something lol.
Femanons, what's the best way to tell women on dating apps that I'm not crippling insecure about the fact I'm single?
The best way is to not be on a dating app
I tried that and got no GF
Does this need to be said?
I need more information to decide how weird it is. Definitely sounds weird though. Probably best not to mention it.
>I need more information to decide how weird it is
Like, he does kegel's and stretching for long time, one might assume stretching is only for his workouts, but real motive is to be more flexible to try more sex positions. Has no particular woman in mind while pursuing this goal.
Not weird to do but definitely weird to mention
Also does strength training to be stronger for more advanced positions. So, basically works out for sex.
>weird to mention
Not like, this non existent person, would mention it, but if he was asked what are his motives for stretching and working out... Should he lie instead?
>but if he was asked what are his motives for stretching and working out
Is that a question that generally gets asked? I've never questioned why a guy would work out.
It seems weird to me to say it. You could get away with it with a girlfriend and a joking tone but it seems odd that that's your ONLY motivation you don't care about your health or physical ability to do anything but sex.
Wish you said it was OK to lie in this situation.
Oh I mean you can. I'm sure lots of guys do when they say they lift solely for themselves rather than trying to impress anyone. It's probably mostly true but who doesn't like being more attractive?
ahhh.. thanks. Now I can justify my other white lies.
Eh, if it doesn't hurt anyone. I don't always need to admit I changed my pants because I got blood or food on them instead of just wanting to change.
You sound too sane for this thread. Try being a bit schizo for the vibe.
>too sane
No one has ever said this to me in my life. I'm stunned.
Someone called you crazy? Let me guess, yes?
It's easier to judge people. I think we're better at noticing flaws.
>Does this need to be said?
On dating apps? Yes.
I feel like saying it would only make them more likely to think you are desperate and miserable though "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" vibes.
Well what should I say to convey the fact I'm not a redditcel
It's more about vibes than giving a specific disclaimer. What you SHOULDN'T say is what you should be worried about.
Just don't mention it
Ez
Problems only exist if you have them
So my GF dumped me a couple weeks ago because she thought I was not good enough at reading her non verbal communication and was too clingy. She was weird about it though, she avoided eye contact a lot during this conversation and then she ditched a lot of obligations to create space between us. I got the feeling there was more to it. I haven't interacted with her since.
Recently however, she has started lightly interacting on social media (reacting to posts, group messages etc). Opinions on what I should do, should I just continue ignoring her? I don't deny that my heart wants her still, but I also am not sure I should wound myself further by trying.
>she thought I was not good enough at reading her non verbal communication
sounds like you dodged a bullet kek
just ignore her
Move on. Don't lower yourself to groveling for someone who doesn't enthusiastically want you.
Good luck!
To women
would you consider creepy if guy is training himself for sex? Most likely training for sex with you if you're dating.
Ain't that normal?
your insecurity makes it creepy
clopping, are we?
NOT FEMALE
I broke it off with a woman I was dating because I fell in love with her. Our lifestyles and general wants from a partner just don't line up even though I was (still am) head over heels for her, in short, I would've made a bad long term partner for her. I told her to block my number on her phone and to not come by my house anymore, I really fucking love her and knew I wouldn't be strong enough to not try and talk to her again. She said she would but when I texted her one evening she responded and keeps telling me things like "oh I'll be near your neighborhood soon". I don't want to end up disappointing her or breaking her heart, I don't want to try to rearrange my life to integrate with hers. What the fuck do I do here?
Your own fault. Stop engaging with her
I've been through some shit in the past few years. A parent dying in front of my eyes after a loooong battle with cancer, fights with family, instability at work, I've been feeling depressed and dissociative despite eating and exercising healthily.
I've been with my gf for almost a year, and despite being the first girl I've ever seriously considered marrying, I find myself looking at other girls, flirting with other girls. I feel like my moral compass left my mind and instead of drowning my sorrows in alcohol or drugs, I constantly try to cheat on my gf. I haven't been successful, but I want it to stop. Any other guy been in this situation?
>Any other guy been in this situation?
no lol I'm an incel who likes alcohol/drugs
don't be like me but also don't be a cheating manwhore, see a psych or anything if things are that fucked (sorry about your situation btw)
That's rough I'm sorry anon. Don't make any big decisions under duress. You're sad and stressed right now and not thinking like your healthy self would. Your healthy self would want to kick your ass right now. Have you been to a therapist? It doesn't help everyone but it can be nice to have someone to dump all of that on and not have to feel guilty about it.
i don't want to be an armchar psychologist, but do you think maybe you're struggling to accept how life could be like this when you expected it to be better? and because it's painful to even think about it, it's easier to just try and ignore the feelings as much as possible. it doesn't matter that you might have long term plans with your gf, because you're actively trying to avoid thinking about yourself or your situation in the larger sense, because it's painful to do so.
thinking about what life would be like without a parent, thinking about fighting again, thinking about finding a new job, it's a lot and it's stressful to deal with. so to make the feelings go away, it's either tackle the problems and solve them all, or try to avoid thinking about them.
so, maybe you're hyperfocusing on these low-level escapes to keep yourself occupied so you don't have to deal with coming to terms with the overall painful shit going on in your greater life.
maybe it's the same sort of reason people fall into self destructive habits like drinking or overeating or gambling or staying on the internet. it's distraction. you don't want to think about the long term, because it requires coming to terms with recent trauma, but also it means that you necessarily aren't seriously considering the long term consequences of your actions.
i dunno man just spitballin
>ldr multiple states away
>she's moving in later this year
>we're meeting for a vacation in july
>vacation is small but something she's wanted to do for years
>want to propose out there but haven't met her dad, just her mom
>tell her to invite her parents and we could meet them
>they don't want to travel
>next time i'll be over in her area is this fall
Should I wait till fall and talk with her father? Invite the parents out here for the holidays and propose then? It's not required to ask her dad, but I'd like to have a good rapport with future in-laws and meet him before my introduction is "I'm engaged to your daughter." We've already talked about marriage and ring ideas, etc. so it's not out of the blue for her.
Another one. How can I get her ring size without blatantly asking? I'd like to get the ring and surprise her but I'd like it to actually fit.
How long have you been dating?
You should meet her father?
You have to ask her ring size, it won't be a surprise
>How long have you been dating?
Year and a half. I know it's not very long compared to most but it's longer than others I know and we're both very comfortable and in agreement on future ideas and goals.
>You should meet her father?
I'm not sure why it's a question. Are you asking why should I or did you mean to make it a statement? I want to meet him, and the holiday thing would be good to get our families together to meet and stuff.
>You have to ask her ring size, it won't be a surprise
Hm. True. I have a good idea but yeah I want to know for sure.
So Femanons, I'm curious. What's y'all's hypothesis as to why the tabletop gaming scene is so male-dominated?
Moid here but I found it gatekeepy and autistic enough even as a geeky guy, I suspect it's even harder for the average girl to "fit in"
I think it was originally marketed to boys, and I think girls who are interested often get turned off of it by weird sexual behavior from guys or annoying gatekeeping just like with videogames.
Went to a local MTG tournament a few years back with my boyfriend. By the time we left I wanted to throw up from the stank. A big portion of the dudes who play table top stuff don't shower. Plus most of that stuff is aimed at guys. Theres more reasons I'm sure but I can't get the words together atm
Men self describing themselves as being men but it's actually just them being disgusting humans.
Non deoderant, nor cologned, or even clean smelling... unshowered. Idc if you're allergic to water. Shower in 100% rubbing alcohol. Hell, even smelling of alcohol is better than dirty butthole.
female here who loves board games so much that ive gone to entire board game conventions, it seems a little self-fulfilling. i know board games =/= tabletop, but they are adjacent.
tabletop gaming was and still is marketed towards guys. its attractive to dudes who need escapism from reality, and those guys also tend to have trouble with women. so when a woman like me joins a group, we're immediately seen as 1) different and 2) potential dating partners. the one time i joined a dnd group, i was the only young female in a circle of like 5 other guys. i wasn't taken seriously but i sure as hell got looks. so of course women are driven away from the tabletop scene when they will never just fit in like the guys
Yeah, this. I'll only play online via text anymore. The last time I was in a group I literally got my ass groped, and nobody gave a shit.
What are some favorite board games of yours and what would you rec to atogans?
sure, here are some that i've been playing for years
> Carcassonne
> Wingspan
> Winners Circle
> Azule
I love games that rely on your logic skills to turn luck into a win. I really like playing to maximize chances
> Rising Sun
I'm not really one for war games but rising sun has fun mechanics with the seasons and the superpowers of the clans
> Dominion
Only deck builder I've enjoyed but also combines luck with skill
I've heard it said that wingspan is a below average game.
I think it's overpriced for what it is, but I enjoy the birds! If you win at the end, you can really feel like you're so smart for choosing the birds that you did. As engine-builders go, I think its a little restricting on what you can do in one game. But I just like the birds 🙂
This new girl works at a video game store I go to. She has extremely large boobs, way bigger than any other I've known. She's attempted to make small talk with me when I buy stuff but I think a lot of the times I just come across as a doofus that stares at her chest. I think she can probably tell. How do I avoid seeming like a creep and actually have a conversation with her when her tits kinda of intimidate me?
Intitmidated
heh
also if they're that big probably everyone gawks at them
Women get used to people staring at their chests?
If something happens almost every time you leave the house you get used to it.
I've gotten used to people glancing. If you're gonna be really obvious and stare while I'm trying to talk to you or something, I'll say something, but I'm not really bothered by a little bit of it.
This seems really mortifying to me. What do you even say?
If they're that big she's probably used to it. Make an effort not to be a doofus and just talk to her.
She's probably used to stares, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Sounds like you guys have a common interest of video games, try to focus on that.
Wear a speedo next time to show off your dong and you can both stare at each other so its not awkward.
I have only kissed around 3 girls and everytime we kissed, we would kiss for more than 40 mins. Sometimes for around 2 hours. Does this indicate that I am a good kisser?
It at least indicates you're not a bad one
Femanons, how can women I date go from basically worshipping me to seemingly hating me over night? This has happened with 3 girls I’ve really cared about in the last few years and I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. One relationship lasted almost 3 years and even that girl went from treating me like I was a god among men to acting as if I was a stranger she wanted nothing to do with in a very short span of time. It’s like a switch was flipped. I know for a fact they weren’t seeing other men behind my back. The last girl and I broke up in September and mutuals have let me know she’s still not dating again yet. I never fought with any of these girls. They all told me they loved me frequently. But they all soured on me for seemingly no reason. And I know I didn’t change. Can any of you shed any light on this phenomenon?
M
It's called BPD.
penis-haver but you might be attracted to certain certain mentally ill women, like those with cluster B disorders. i find that a surprising amount of women i think are interesting, end up having BPD.
Well if it's not just run of the mill mental illness like bpd or something or if you're not leaving out important context, the main thing I think about is that there was probably something bothering them the whole time. It happens where something is initially easy to deal with but over time they're able to put up with it less and less.
So then you have them being mad at the thing but also having built up resentment.
I’ve considered it being BPD, but none of them ever showed any other signs of it throughout the entirety of the relationships. Could it only manifest itself in them breaking up with me for no reason?
Well I don't have enough context just from what you wrote. Think of the bpd as more of an honorable mention than a main contender
>Could it only manifest itself in them breaking up with me for no reason?
It could. Not everyone with bpd is explosive. For some people it's very internal and the most visible part is cutting off relationships.
I’ll be goddamned. I’m researching it more thoroughly now and it does seem like it could be the root cause.
> that girl went from treating me like I was a god among men to acting as if I was a stranger she wanted nothing to do with in a very short span of time
Can’t really explain the rest of it, but this has to do with girls being embarrassed about how they let you see them at their most private and intimate. Not just seeing them naked, but being totally submissive to you and sharing their deepest fetishes. After a girl lets you have everything she has to offer, and then she gets tired of you for one reason or another, it makes the most since to her primal brain to simply pretend you no longer exist. So even if she loved you at one time all of those memories are cut off and diminished in her mind the second she loses attraction to you. She’s sickened by the thought of you. And it’s not really anything you’ve done (unless the guy proved himself to be a real asshole or something.) It’s that she opened herself up to you. Men don’t really do this. Their brains work very differently.
Amazons walk among us...
they do
Dutch moment.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's just a tranny.
I saw a tall fat girl today, I was DEBUNKED
Girls, how would you solve this situation?
Guys, what would you do if it was you on the right (male you)?
>what would you do if it was you on the right
run, her breath prolly smells too
Brother, I havent been shorter than a woman in two lifetimes
Captcha: 222222
>28
>no friends for over a decade
>have social/conversational/listenimy skills due to job
>volunteer and work around plenty of women
>afraid of losing job or volunteer role or reputation if I ask any of them out
>small industry for both so rumors travel fast
The stuff I do is all I have. I get along with people great but others somehow link up on social media, share memes, go out together etc.
Girls have asked me out in the past so I look normal enough but I never reciprocated. What happens when she finds out I got no friends? Wouldn't her parents hate me? God forbid a marriage where the only people who show up are people she knows. The last one is stupid but I worry about it.
Everything else is ok. I have a car, home, etc. I'm about to die alone at this rate. What do I do
>What do I do
double down. get rid of the job, car, and home and go help accelerate san fran's death spiral.
I ask again.
>everything is sex
And why is that sad, exactly? Cope and seethe, but don't project insecurity about your deviousness onto me!
>tfw secretary at work the other day kept blabbing about random shit and was then like "you're a quiet one, aren't you?"
No shit, I was trying to actually do some work. Why do extroverts feel the need to point out you're quiet if you're not constantly talking? (I do kinda like when she rambles though ngl, at least when it fades into background noise, but I wouldn't tell a soul)
Girls, you do use BPA-free dildoes, right?
most autistic question here so far
I get that a lot
what are your thoughts on my post anon
I had a chance to sex with a whore when I was 17, but not my cup of té
Christ absolves you, brother, you know this.
Yeah, I know, and that's a great relief... I know Christ forgives me, what I worry about is how will my future wife take it. What do you think? On the one hand, as a Christian woman, the right thing to do would be to forgive me, but any woman feels disgusted at the fact that her bf/hb slept with prostitutes
Does she need to know?
not really, I don't have any STI, so I live as it never happened. I can be the best boyfriend for her, that's all she will care about imo
close enough, thanks femanon
Then if it doesn't bother your conscience too much, I wouldn't bother telling her unless she ever asks that specifically.
If it helps, my bf was in a relationship with an ex prostitute (about a week tho) and I still love him.
That doesn't seem like quite the same thing.
I find it of equal ickness, it was only a few months between
well if this really isnt larp, then yea. don't lie. frame it like "I made mistakes in my youth."
I'm very dramatic so it seems like a larp, it's not. Yeah, I usually go with that one whenever the topic comes up
It's the middle of the night and I'm done with my workout. Shower time and sleepy time!
Good night anons!
(pls respond with sleep tight, so I have good sleep and feel like I have frens for once! I'll read all replies after shower!)
sleep tight frog bitch
I mean working is better than depending on someone shitty, sure
>men are easier to read than dr. seuss
1 fish 2 fish I call bullshit
what do you think is hard to read?
I think its super easy to tell if someone is shitty or not.
Sleep tight, anon! Don't let the bed bugs bite.
Aw, I haven't heard that in years.
sleep tight fren
sleep tight fren
Sleep tight dude
Saw a girl post something about wishing they didnt have to work so they didnt have to pay bills
All the replies were from girls talking about how its better than depending on a shitty husband.
Why cant girls just choose good guys?
>inb4 you cant tell
bull fcking shit. You can always tell who is gonna end up bad/abusive. it's so fucking easy.
especially men. men are easier to read than dr. seuss
Qt, I wanna ruin our friendship
We should be lovers instead
who dis????
Why at youtuber/influencer parties the people don't really "party" at all? A guy had a youtuber party at his Mansion and he was apparently the only one in the pool. Do zoomers not know how to party?
Josh? You read the book, josh
Wdym?
I’m good friends with a girl I met at college a few years ago. We have many similar interests, the same sense of humor, politics, and fwiw we’re both pretty good looking. Yet she seemingly has no interest in dating me. She spends most of her free time with me, hasn’t dated another guy in over a year, and we have mutual friends who have asked us both separately, “Why the fuck aren’t you two dating? You’re perfect for each other!” She says “because it would be disastrous.” And “it would ruin our friendship.” I asked her out once pretty early into our friendship and nicely turned me down. Haven’t brought it up again because I’m afraid of making it weird. She’s very comfortable around me, to the point where sometimes she’ll just hang out wearing only a robe when we’re at her place. She gets kind of snippy whenever she learns I’m going out with someone I met on Tinder. One time she tried to get me to change my plans and hang out with her instead
when she learned I was going on a date. This is truly maddening. I definitely have feelings for this girl and would like to date her. What the hell do I need to do?
Thanks, frens! Your the best!
You need better frens.
take lots of care anon!!
good advice, thank you
If you’re married, is there a downside to starting an onlyfans with your partner?
She'll inevitably have guys richers and more attractive than you propositioning her
You are highly unlikely to make the kind of money you think you will. Spoiler Alert: Most women on OnlyFans are actual prostitutes, they use the platform to vet potential clients and to offer a preview of the goods. Don't believe me? Check their instagram feed. That boat they took a selfie on? Not her boat. That posh hotel from some new city? She didn't pay for that hotel or airplane ticket.
OnlyFans and Instagram is essentially an E-brothel for the wealthy.
>Spoiler Alert: Most women on OnlyFans are actual prostitutes, they use the platform to vet potential clients and to offer a preview of the goods.
They may be whores, but they're not prostitutes. Unless you believe every instathot trading her pussy for fame is a prostitute.
>but they're not prostitutes
IG DM any OF girl that isn't in the top percentage of subs with "$1500 fly u 2 me, all expenses paid" and see how they respond. or better yet up it to $5000. thats the kind of cash being thrown around in this space, how many of those girls making a couple hundred a month are going to consistently turn that down?
I buy hookers of OF all the time, thats how i know this stuff.
>IG DM any OF girl that isn't in the top percentage of subs with "$1500 fly u 2 me, all expenses paid" and see how they respond. or better yet up it to $5000. thats the kind of cash being thrown around in this space, how many of those girls making a couple hundred a month are going to consistently turn that down?
You could probably DM any young attractive thot with a social media presence that and they'd agree
No
no downsides other than every other possible downside to a realshipo
do realize too that every relationship is a marriage, choose wisely!
But I am a misogynistic simp, not sure if that matters..
Can you deal with them getting nasty comments from simps?
Your children will be bullied for it.
The bullies will literally show you child videos of their mother being fucked.
a friend very nicely gifted me two free weeks of discord nitro randomly (i've nver been gifted that) however it asks for your real payment info bc after it'll charge you.. how do i avoid this? i really don't want to attach my financials to a free discord trial and i also don't want to hurt my friend's feelings. it expires after 48 hours
This is cute. DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS
Do you have a gift card you can use? Does google have a better answer?
Use privacy.com to make a secure temporary debit card.
thanks for the advice!
there are various online services which can generate a prepaid card - you could use something like that instead.
Men can you please have sons and teach them how to not be you crabby shit heads, and instead to romance?
>can you please have sons
Never having children lol
Also modern women don't want romance with men
Teaching men to believe in romance is how we ended up with incels
We should have been taught how to be selfish cads instead
>selfish cads
when you SolidWorks into that pussy
I worship women who don't hate themselves, simple as
cringing IRL thinking about her hating herself..
This is what my single mom taught me and it was disasterous for my dating life.
State gender: in a relationship, how often do you expect to have PIV sex? How about long-term (over 2+ years)? If you're in a relationship, did your expectations change?
Female
4 times a week
Ideally everyday
I am always horny
4 times a week for the rest of your relationship? even 5, 10, 20 years down the line? i have never understood this mentality. then again, im guessing you've never been in something long term
I'm with my partner of 2 years
Intimacy is important to me in a relationship.
Maybe not full blown sex but sexual interactions leading to one or both cumming.
The likelihood of it staying at 4 times a week is low, but that's how much I'd expect/hope for. I dont want a partner where it's common we go weeks without any sex, assuming nothing like childbirth or illness is happening.
Female. I don't really EXPECT it. Like, I'm not gonna go to my BF with a line graph and be like "Your numbers are looking bad this quarter." Three or four times a week sound great, but as we get older ... once a week minimum, I think. I need him inside of me at least that often or I REALLY miss him, even if we're around each other. It's hard to explain.
I'm afraid my dating profile makes me look boring
This is gonna sound corny as hell but it works.
1 Chad Strut photo of you in some nice clothes walking towards the camera with like a briefcase or duffle bag or something
1 "Adventure" photo of you in an outdoorsy place doing something that looks fun
1 photo of you in a group setting to show you have friends
1 picture of you with a dog.
That's not really honest to the type of person I am though
The dog is, but the rest makes me seem like an extrovert when I'm not.
NTA, but they constructed a profile that will get you dates. It's like a political campaign - it has nothing to do with honesty.
Online Dating is marketing 101 and marketing is inherently dishonest. It's about getting you the date, getting you that first real life interaction. your profile is immediately disregarded the minute they meet you.
No
confusion and sadness yea, but anger no
very human <3
What sex-based inquisitions should I be expounding upon?
Is Visara worth including in my deck just for the gorgon titties?
it is like sex!
how much will it cost you?
I kill gorgons in my sleep
~$2
The foil doesn't have a head on shot of her tits on it thou...
You can just have her on the table anon, you don't need her in your deck. I hope you have the OG foil though...
femanons
how's your archery?
Femanons have you ever dated someone you met at a bar?
I wouldn't say dated exactly but I had a fwb thing with a guy I met at a bar once.
no, but I don't go to bars. I've only dated through finding people on the outskirts of my social circle
state gender + age
how much have you saved up?
f20
about $16.5k
M. 28. ~50k. Not sure.
Female, 38
I've got about 50k saved up. That might be going very up or very down soon ... mortgage + inheritance issues.
The realestate finally sent plumbers to fix the toilet. They replaced the back of it. Lmao look at it. Should I get some fake tiles and blutack over that horrendous part? Can't do anything more since it's a rental
I had more saved before being neet but I have 35k atm
Are you in Denver?
No, does it look like a Denver toilet
Apparently.
no, the styling of the tile and the tub is whats in a bunch of the mid 50's apartment buildings there.
Yeah it's just a shithole apartment
M, 21, $15k liquid and about $4k in stocks.
Men, assuming these are your only two options, which are you picking? For the sake of the question assume their physical appearances and personalities are the same.
A. Virgin girl who does onlyfans, is waiting until marriage to have any sexual contact with a man
B. Girl with a body count of 5 but would never consider doing onlyfans
I need more information. Is this just what they've told me or do I somehow know both of those things to be true? Also, what sort of OnlyFans content does (A) make?
Girl not interested in Onlyfans because she fucks.
Let me guess, you are B and you want me to say yeah I guess a body count of 5 isn't "that bad" if you put it that way.
My girlfriend wants me to nurse from her daily for extended periods of time (think 20 minutes to an hour) while she watches TV, like I'm a baby (she didn't say this last bit herself but that's the vibe I'm getting).
She's always liked it when I play with her boobs but is she fucking with me? Do women actually like this?
I've heard of this before. I love it when my BF sucks my nipples, and if I had milk, I think I'd really like him to drink it. But for an hour? I'd get sore, for one thing!
see i like it when my boobs get played with, but i really dont like the feeling of sucking and i certainly would be so dead embarrassed if milk came out. pls fondle. no suck.
Fair enough. I asked my boyfriend once if he'd like to drink my milk if I had any. He snarked "Sure, you seem to love drinking from me!" Ugh. I mean, he's not wrong, but still.
Semen or pee?
Semen. We tried piss once, but both of us kind of had the same reaction. "Ehh ... shrug. Whatever."
>i really dont like the feeling of sucking
🙁
i had talked to my exgf about getting on some sort of supplement so we could see if she'd lactate and she was on board with it and i thought that was kind of hot but we broke up before anything came of it.
I read this as "but we broke up before anything came out of it"
>I'd get sore, for one thing!
Maybe his gf gets off on that
I do like having my nipples sucked but that sounds like a bit much.
Femanons would you date a guy who works at a dispensary but doesn't smoke weed?
what kind of stupid fucking question is this
I'm bored
Why so hostile?
Is this a thing that happens?
Well I got offered a job at one, haven't smoked weed since I was 19.
More important question, do you get an employee discount and can I use it lol
>do you get an employee discount and can I use it lol
Yeah
Works for me then
i need a guy with career ambitions. i dont give a damn where you're working as long as you have plans to grow from there. but dispensary boys arent generally my type
Yeah it doesn't have anything to do with my career path but I'm still trying to break into that, doing a degree for that still and trying to get internships in it for experience in the field where I can springboard to better things.
do you guys make a new thread or just run it until it dies? i had a stupid question but i've been holding off
We don't until page 9 or 10. Whoever does gets in trouble if they try. Also /adv/ is a pretty slow board.
It's not uncommon for these threads to go well past 1000 posts.
After class today I went to get food on campus and there was a girl sitting by herself eating and looking at her phone.
I got my food and I thought about asking her if she was busy and if she'd mind if I ate with her, but I didn't.
I didn't really have anything in mind to talk about if she said yes, and I was worried she would think it was weird.
So instead I ate by myself and looked at my phone.
Would it have been fine to ask her? Is that weird? I am a bit autistic, but outwardly normal. I've had friends and girlfriends.
Would you be fine with some normal looking person randomly approaching you, having lunch and talking with you?
i don't think it's necessarily weird but i am a man. i think it'd be fine if some random dude sat down next to me at a bar and started talking. i'd probably decline if i was at a restaurant alone. i dunno.
Nah, it would be fine. You were going to ask her if it was all right, right? So if she said 'no' and you left her alone, that's fine. And she might have enjoyed the company. It would be weird or creepy if you just sat there and joined her without asking.
Maybe I'll try and just give it a go the next time the opportunity comes up. I was somewhat concerned about making her feel pressured or weird or something. Maybe I shouldn't go in instantly disqualifying myself.
I was thinking like,
"Hey are you busy?"
>Not really what's up?
"Is it alright if i sit here and have lunch with you?"
I mean fuck I could just as easily do it with dudes too, I eat lunch alone practically every day. It's just really out of my comfort zone. Worst case, they just say no. Best case, maybe they ask me for my number and we hang out again later.
Just wanted a sanity check really.
It's okay. I suffer from social anxiety too, and I know how little logic will make a dent in it when the situation comes up. My brain is all "Nah, you're a piece of human shit and should just stay away from everyone, lest you contaminate their lives with your stink." My brain fucking hates me.
Women do you prefer subtle or more prominent dick heads?
prominent
(for the women)
how does a girl go from being all over me to completely ghosting me?
the reason being something as stupid as me rescheduling a date to the next day
if it helps, she used to cut herself before we met so she's prob not stable
Sometimes people don't stabilise their emotions. As a result, what they want changes from day to day.
"Sex is fun!"
me when i am an autistic virgin girl with a bf that plans on getting on pill birth control and making him use a condom as well every single time and i'll still be extremely paranoid and scared reading this information
Well, sex doesn't have to be penis in vagina. I'm bi, so my advice if you're scared of pregnancy is to get a girlfriend. But if that's no good, you could just not let him ejaculate inside of you. That said, I realize paranoia isn't defeated by logic. I'm sorry you get scared, sweetie.
Tbf porn addicts do not deserve love so
Mb wrong reply
you miss out being that paranoid about it. when i was like 16/17 my first gf was on the pill, and i remember one time we bought these spermicidal films. put one in, and i nutted in her, and i swear to god i nearly had a panic attack "dude we can't do this again oh my god".
later on, another gf has an IUD, i'd cum in her all the time. the risk associated with pregnancy when you actually use hormones correctly is actually zero. the "chance" is from people skipping days or other stupid shit. but i get the feeling. i was deathly afraid at one point too. you get over it.
Ladies on Tinder, if you matched with a guy and he immediately offered to give you head would you accept or would you like some talk and build-up first?
Those guys are usually weirdos. Just ask to hook up/hang out don't be so specific.
Hi /atoga/, how was work today?
We served a lawsuit on a guy today who tried to hide from the process server. Lmao. The process server did his job par excellence. Best $260 we ever spent.
We're fucking drowning in supplier issues, thanks for asking.
>supplier issues
RIP. You should sue somebody.
>music in a meeting
Interesting
>swear words
yikes! you should sue somebody! hostile work environment!
The music is before the meeting, for the ten minutes before it starts, just while people are coming in. And yeah, I forgot that "Highwayman" mentions 'the bastards' Oops.
I object. Bastards isn't a swear. It's just the technical term for a child of unwed parents. Questions of bastardy was once a major area of law.
You don't happen to have any knowledge of insurance law, do you?
I have a little knowledge.
If one were attacked by a homeowner's dog unprovoked and sued, what dictates the payout by the homeowner's insurance?
Whether there's an exclusion that covers the dog (e.g., if it's a pitbull and the insurance policy has an express exclusion for pitbulls), and then the coverage limits. Those would be the two main issues I'd look for.
Bear in mind that an insurance company will still have a duty to defend—that is, they still have to provide an attorney for the homeowner, I think at least until there's a determination that the claim is excluded.
As to fixing the actual amount of the payout, it's something that would be determined based on the actual damage to the victim (like medical bills, future medical), plus an amount for pain and suffering, and maybe punitive damages? But punitives probably fall outside the insurance policy.
There's no easy way to tell you the value of a case by the way. It's going to be very dependent on what your damages are and comparable judgments from other juries in your venue. Then in terms of what the insurance company's settlement offer looks like, it'll be based off that figure.
That specific aspect of it I don't know a ton about.
Would I be correct that a young child witnessing such an attack on their mother would be considered a second victim in this case?
Also, more generally, how are "intangible" injuries evaluated in a case like this? Psychological/emotional issues and similar.
>Would I be correct that a young child witnessing such an attack on their mother would be considered a second victim in this case?
Probably. Being in the "zone of danger" is a thing. I forget if that falls under IIED or something. Of course having an animal also puts it under ultrahazardous acts.
>Also, more generally, how are "intangible" injuries evaluated in a case like this? Psychological/emotional issues and similar.
In terms of actual damages, there are two metrics you'd look at: (1) Treatment costs (both past and projected future based on expert testimony), and (2) A disability rating resulting in a calculation of what the impairment of your future earnings potential is. But as to the value of mental suffering, pain and suffering, etc., I don't know exactly how you put a price tag on it. In theory, what you do is you go to the jury and say, "My client was harmed this much. I think that's worth this amount of money because (reasons)." Now, part of how you arrive at that proposed figure is through knowledge and experience of what juries in that same venue have awarded in other injury cases to other victims. There are a LOT of factors that go into this: How sympathetic the plaintiff is, for example. If it was a pretty young mother who is horribly disfigured now, she will generally be very sympathetic. A kindly old man, same. A tattooed thug, not so much. Sort of the opposite with the defendant: The more sympathetic the less you can count on a victory.
What if all parties involved are living under the same roof in a dysfunctional shitshow that'd make jerry springer blush, and this is the event that implodes the family?
Probably same as any other homo insurance claim.
>homo insurance
Is that for when you're making out with a chick and find a surprise in "her" skirt when you cop a feel?
the insurance is the gun you press against "her" temple as you recommend that "she" leave the premises immediately
Your inability to take a joke is why you will lose the culture war.
I had to facilitate a meeting this morning, and pick out music for it, on a new computer. I almost messed up the whole thing, and failed to edit out a swear in one of the songs. Argh! But nobody minded. Other than that, typical day
>edit out a swear in one of the songs
And you get paid to do this. Life is a fucking joke.
I get paid to enter data and do boring mail shit. Doing music for the meetings is just a fun thing my manager used to do, and then she got too busy and she asked me. I guess technically they pay me for about ... 15 minutes each week on it?
And that is ridiculous. Not that you should have to do it on your own time but like, why not just pick songs without swears. Or not edit them, you're all adults.
Because I forgot it had one, like I said? By the way, 'edit' means like, I hit the mute button for the one second the word is in. I'm not doing some sort of software wizardry.
That's even sillier baka this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
>baka
Yeah. Clearly your opinion of what is and isn't stupid is very important!
I forget the filters one time and it invalidates my opinion? Well damn.
I regularly get paid to sit at my desk and shitpost while I wait for something that needs my attention. Deal with it.
JH moment
There's a LOT of office jobs that are like that.
That I don't mind. It's specifically the unnecessary editing of swear words from songs for a bunch of grown ass adults that I find ludicrous.
i work remote and did absolutely nothing today. i'm having trouble bullshitting my timecard with the amount of downtime i have.
I was sick so i got to rot at home all day instead of working
I took my mom on vacation and then we both got Covid. We’re supposed to fly back home in the morning and we both feel like we’re on the brink of death, so idk what to do about that
My dad caught it on the last day of our trip to Universal Orlando. We had to drive twelve hours to get back, and he was so miserable in the backseat. Great trip otherwise though.
We have about 12 hours worth of flying to do tomorrow and I get winded just from walking a few minutes to go get water. I thought I had covid once last year but holy shit was I wrong, this is awful
It's not coofid, even if the tests say it, they're inaccurate, you got spring fever. Stop stressing over being sick, you'll be okay
You’re retarded
I don’t really have another choice, since I’m in another country that doesn’t let me stay past the date I originally listed on my paperwork
The last thing I want to be doing is getting on a plane. But I plan to wear a mask and keep my distance from people as much as possible
Yeah I was sitting in the hotel’s shower floor earlier just holding the shower head against me with my eyes closed. The only moment of peace I had today lol
Well that sucks. Would be nice if you could take 3 days to recover first.
Should you really be getting on a plane if it's that bad? For your sake and the sake of everyone else on the plane.
>I get winded just from walking a few minutes to go get water
I got sick like that too. When you have to summon all your strength to take a shower. It can be pretty rough.
24 M, open to both.
I just started a seasonal job as a barback in a hotel today, during work a cute girl working as a busser caught my eye. Nothing happened asides from exchanging a few glances and a smile, but I'd like to talk with her, hopefully ask her out or something.
Looking for advice on how to approach this; were in different depts so I'd have to go a little out of my way to talk to her and even then it'd be brief
buddy, if you are working a bar you are going to have tons of pussy opportunities.
Not really, it's a boogie hotel/resort frequented by boomers and wedding parties.
I'm not into hook ups either
Depends what you mean by party, but yeah
I mean house parties you see in movies and similar
Yeah I've been to some small house parties with co workers, amd a few of my friends frat parties, they're OK I guess. I like hanging out with a 5-10 friends in someone's backyard or basement and some drinks more tho
Like someone else itt said, it falls off past your mid 20s
>21
Buddy you got time. Just keep searching, you'll find a niche
from like 17-24 i did. some fraternity parties at someone's house, sometimes they'd rent a bar out. sometimes some person would just host it and someone i knew would invite me. i remember once, sophomore year, they completey fucking trashed this house. like, people climbing on countertops, mud all over the furniture. it was fucked.
i've been to a lot. a good 20 or 30 where i'd consider it a party and not just a group of people hanging out and drinking. as in more than like, i dunno 15 people or so.
beer pong is a real thing, jungle juice is a real thing, chatting with people and getting their numbers is a real thing. it's fun i like them. but they definitely seem to taper off as you get older.
It seems like people that don't go to university miss out on some good times unless they find other places to party.
You don't have to go yourself just have to have friends that do.
Good tip. Thanks.
not necessarily. i didn't discover the parties, i wasn't all that social. my high school gf was really outgoing and would always invite me to parties, so probably 5-10 were just from that. i was in a quiz bowl club on campus, and they hosted a party once. a couple friends from high school were in fraternities and they invited me to a couple. my roommate was in the powerlifting club and he invited me to some that he was going to. others were from people i'd met at parties just mentioning that another one was coming up.
they're out there. if you're college aged, maybe to about i dunno 25 or 26, you probably wouldn't stick out that much at them. as you get older, it's more maybe a half dozen people sitting around drinking, less intense. but people still do parties for stuff like the 4th of july or the super bowl or whatever. lower intensity, but the same sort of socializing.
Does the average person go to parties?
There are a lot of people at parties, so I'd say yes. I think it declines a lot past age 25, though.
Do guys like having their balls played with? I tried with my bf but he said it hurt a little.
Mine likes it, but I had to learn how. He stopped me the first time I said and was all "Whoa, whoa, gentle!!" He wants me to just baaaarely touch them, and then it really turns him on. I love doing it to him.
Ah, okay. I was treating them like clacker balls lol. Have you ever played with just his balls? How does he react?
Yes! I run the tip of my finger from near his asshole all the way to the base of his dick, just right over the center of his sack. His dick pulses to life so quickly, and his breathing gets really hot. He'll pet my head and say things like 'fuck yes, baby' in that hoarse voice when he really likes something. If I just keep that up and don't touch anything else for long enough, he gets impatient, and that gets REALLY fun!
Nta but girl WHY lmao
Who made you think that was okay??
They don't call them huevos for nothing. Imagine them like an egg in a pan. Be gentle and don't break the yolk.
I ADORE gentle teasing and stroking. Sucking or gripping can get very painful very quickly.
I actually like cock torture. But ball torture is right out.
YMMV
Fondling doesn't do anything for me, but a little tongue action can be a nice addition to a bj occasionally.
>I was treating them like clacker balls lol
>he said it hurt a little
kek
Who is this "Gary" individual and why does he have beef with the janitors?
He's based
>why does he have beef with the janitors?
Because he's based.
Some people's brains don't work right. They spam gibberish and do weird shit, since they can't tell what they're doing is unwell.
He is one such.
How can you tell if someone is a covert pervert?
Uncharacteristically suggestive comments and thoughts from a character usually considered pure and innocent. Sometimes this is played straight and shows that a character is mature or smart enough to notice subtle themes their friends don't.
>character
Wut
If they are cute girls I assume it's true and if they aren't cute girls I don't care.
In my experience, absolutely nobody can tell. I'm barely rated PG irl.
so is squirting piss or not?
No, but it comes from the same hole so there is probably some piss mixed in.
It's partially piss. A little bit.
99.99% of porn squirting is 100% piss.
It's entirely piss. Women lack a physiological means of ejaculating.
This is what I hoped they meant the frist time I heard the phrase "gender fluid"
It's neither pure piss nor ejaculate. But the scientific studies into the phenomenon are relatively lacking as subjects are rare and scientists have better shit to do.
Women do you smell good?
I just showered so I hope so. Most of the time I probably stink of cigarettes and weed.
I try to! It's hard to say because I don't really pick up on my own scent? BF seems to think so. I know I love how he smells. That's why I steal his hoodies, but also give them back to him. If I keep them forever, they won't smell like him anymore.
So here's the situation.
>My job used to be done by two people, me and another person
>the other person retired so now it's just me
>I can mostly do it myself, but there is one aspect of the job that takes up way too much time, and I can't do that and everything else as well
>my boss has decided to give that aspect of my job to the guys who work at night, who spend hours just sitting back and reading the newspaper because they don't have enough to do
>I have to stay late tomorrow to teach them how to do it
>it's not miserable, it's just a little time consuming, but I know they're going to be pissed off about having this put on them and they're going to resent me
How do I get through this?
If they're mad at you and not your boss they're idiots.
Sympathize with them. Suggest that management should have just hired another day guy but they're saddling the night crew with this instead. Etc
Just do it, their feelings aren't real because they're meant to want to do their jobs.
Femanons on dating sites - Are you just not on them often or for long? Are you just competing for internet dating clout, like "I can get x matches in y hours"? What gives?
>X likes anon
>Anon likes X
>*10 hours later*
>X messages anon
>*2 minutes later*
>anon messages X
>*9 hours later and counting*
What the hell? Pretty sure it's rude most anywhere to dip right after starting a conversation. And this isn't an isolated incident, either. The overwhelming majority of conversations end with a ghosting at "hi". Tf do you want me to say? "I want to take you out back and ride you like a snowmobile on an avalanche"?
>inb4 showing desperation at 2 min reply
I happened to be on my phone at the time.
not a woman but it's a game theory thing. men outnumber women on dating apps, for one. like, 4:1 or something. and men swipe right on everyone, but women are more selective. with women, almost every right-swipe is a match, and there's little pressure to be invested in any particular match because there's effectively a limitless pool if you're normal looking, let alone attractive.
that's just how it works, boss. dating apps are shit, meet people in real life.
>men outnumber women on dating apps, for one. like, 4:1 or something.
Kinda figured that. Still doesn't excuse the rudeness. If you're gonna ghost at the first message, it just makes it look like you're indecisive or vindictive and better off not matching at all.
>dating apps are shit, meet people in real life.
If I could date in real life, I wouldn't be on the apps. As it is, I'm an isolated guy with no comms with the few high school or college friends I had and all my coworkers are male, in their late 30s and older, and/or already hitched. Been flying solo for nearly 4 years, now, and all I have to show for it is knowing a couple bartenders.
>If I could date in real life, I wouldn't be on the apps.
you give up when you decide to give up. the only people on dating apps are people who have no other option, if you understand what i am saying. you probably do not want to be with a woman who is relying on them, or at least, that shouldn't be your entire dating pool.
i don't know how old you are, i'm assuming early 30's. people meet people by doing things where people are. do bands ever play where you live, or maybe within a couple hours drive? you ever been to a concert? there are a lot of people at concerts who are absolutely open to meeting new people.
it doesn't get easier as you get older it gets harder. you need to be putting boots to asses now if you want things to change. go with the goal of making new friends. they introduce you to mutual friends. this can continue indefinitely. some of them are friends with single women. you can date those single women.
this is the trick. it's a slower game but the results are guaranteed if you keep up with it, and the outcomes are better.
that's it. you're lying to yourself if you don't think there are fuckloads of people your age, in your area, who aren't literally going to these fucking events to meet people like you that they can be friends with. that's the whole fucking point of them. it's not because they love this local comedian, it's because other humans are going to be at the bar.
I get what you're saying, but the current situation doesn't really allow for it. I don't really give a shit about doxing since I'm leaving the area, but I currently sleep, work, and play in the small commuter city that is Manassas, where most everyone here just sleeps, then goes 30 miles away to Arlington and DC for work and play. We have no concert venues, a shitty improv acting club, and not even recreational sports fields. All the bars are hole-in-the-wall as the entire "downtown" is 2 blocks by four blocks. We are the Gettysburg of VA, put on the map solely because of big open fields where a bunch of people died 150 years ago.
I've tried meetup to avoid aimlessly wandering all over NoVa and read several local papers for upcoming events but most everything is aimed at families with kids, people obsessed with their careers, geriatrics, and homeowners. The events aimed at singles my age (26) are usually under-populated and the people who do come, come with their friends, never venturing from their friends. These people are also usually the advanced liberal arts variety, talking masters and doctorates in language study and underwater basket weaving, so my BS in electromechanical engineering sticks out like a sore thumb.
Coming back to Manassas, people my age who normally float around the area on friday nights are illiterate delinquents, a couple car shop guys, and an actual schizo who thinks AI has already assumed the NSAs favorite pastime of eavesdropping and location data collection through phones and and carries a deck of random yugioh, mtg, and pokemon cards in his accordion wallet.
So glad I am moving out of this place.
>and the people who do come, come with their friends, never venturing from their friends.
doesn't mean you couldn't approach them. what's the worst that could happen? they stick out their tongues and laugh at you? they're at the same fuckin event, dog. they're there to try and find new people to hang out with because they live in the same area.
>usually the advanced liberal arts variety
doesn't mean you can't be friends with them. who gives a shit. i'm CS and i've had plenty of stupid artsy friends. one of my best ones graduated in political science. don't disqualify people over dumb shit like that.
look, most people who have enough friends probably aren't the ones going to those events. they're either old people who like the thing regardless, or they're socially competent people who want more friends, or they're social retards who have zero other options.
so the way it works is, you engage with the most normal person at one of those things, and try to hang out with them outside of it. grow a friend group.
the socially competent ones aren't there to befriend the social retards, and if you're normal enough to stand out against the mouthbreathers dude it's so fucking easy. they're literally waiting for you to talk to them.
a thing i'm picking up is that you're pretty judgemental, and it took me a while to break through that, i'm about your same age. if you don't have anyone to hang out with, you kinda have to take what you can get, for now. have a beer with the least awful option. you'll build social skills, maybe they're friends with someone else, maybe they'll invite you to dinner with that person.
i guarantee you have had chances to put yourself out there and you disqualified yourself. just try. you even said that you're leaving, you have nothing to lose. try. build skills right now. Go to an event in DC this weekend. Talk to at least ONE person while you're there. do it.
you have an ejector seat button too, ya know?
The final redpiLL: HAVE FUN AND LOVE GOD
have fun
Joining the monastery because "can't find a gf" is insincere. I already weighed this option. Loving God is fine and all, but I find living the scout oath, law, and motto to be more immediately beneficial to myself and my neighbors. The acceptance of homos and subsuming of girl scouts were major fuck-ups on the admin's part, though. GSA could have taken a few lessons from BSA, but BSA encroaching that heavily into GSA turf wrecked the reps of both orgs.
is it a sign if i tried to kill myself three times this past two weeks and failed?
go ask the suicide hotline, your bullshit isn't welcome here
What methods did you try? Gonna try and hopefully succeed myself soon
taking a bunch of sleeping pills and mixing it with rum
So you've done this 3 times and haven't been to a hospital? I tried with pills when I was a teen and was on a heart monitor for 3 days. You're playing a dangerous game here. Pills very rarely work. You're going to end up doing irreparable damage to your body but not enough to kill you.
Yup
It's definitely a sign. No question.
Cap.
You didn't try.
Both genders
Someone told me that unless I have more assets (a house, a car paid off, etc) then a stable healthy woman won’t want to date me. I’ve been thinking about this heavily. Are they right?
I am 27 and rent a decent house and I make payments on a car, as well as monitoring my credit, but I’m also trying to grow in my career and save so that I can buy a house. I’m working really hard to be the best version of myself and I feel like I’m a decent person.
Dating has been rough lately but the idea that a healthy woman won’t date me unless I own a house and have everything figured out makes me a little upset
"Unless you do this, women won't date you" is a stupid thing said by a stupid person. People have different criteria they look for in their partners. Now, the more assets you have, the wider your reach is - MORE women will want to date you, sure. But there's women out there who won't give a shit if you live in a cardboard box. Just not very many. Many people like to talk in extremes and black-and-white terms, especially when giving advice. But if someone tells you "You must do X, or you'll be ALONE FOREVER", they're full of shit.
I can see his point like owning a house and having lots of financial security looks good to a lot of women but it’s also a huge insecurity of mine
I dunno. I have good qualities; like I said dating has just been rough lately and I am getting really tired of going through the motions over and over again
Well, having more assets doesn't fix insecurity. If anything it would just replace it with a new insecurity, that people ONLY like you for your assets. That's an issue you have to tackle directly, not try to play around it.
I guess you’re right
I feel that all of my goals are achievable and healthy realistic goals
I take very good care of myself and all of my goals are related to family and financial security / maintaining healthy relationships
I really want a partner though
Sounds nonsensical. As long as you aren't homeless or being crushed by debt I can't imagine it being a major factor to most people.
I'm not stable or healthy but I know a few women who are. If you're working on goals and have plans for your future that you're actually likely to achieve you're doing fine.
I downloaded Boo and it's the first app that hasn't been showing me just gigastacies. What's the catch?
>What's the catch?
Crabs.
watch for long-con tactics. if someone tries to rotate communication to a secure/encrypted messenger you are talking to a catfish.
You haven't tried Hinge, have you?
Hinge is the app that's been showing me the gigastacies
Are we using the same app? They are usually few and far between for me, separated by gulfs of landwhales and basket cases.
women do you believe in love?
I'm not sure. I'm convinced I don't truly understand what love is.
When did I say it was easy? It's torture and incredibly embarrassing. But you have to do it.
>I'm convinced I don't truly understand what love is.
i've always had trouble saying "I love you" to people because it seems disingenuous. it means a lot to me and i care about the person but "love" has a lot of baggage attached to it. it sounds like a promise. one girl i was dating, i talked to her about it. she said something like "if you care about me, and you like being around me, and you hope to still be around me in the future, that can be what love means".
i'm still weird about it, i mostly just say "love you" but i've started trying to say it more. even my best friend, i love the guy in a platonic way. it's sorta uncomfortable to squeeze it out but it means a certain thing and i think there's value in it.
I've said it and had a deep level of care and affection for another person but it's fickle, not like what people describe feeling for their partners. I'm concerned that having BPD makes me incapable of feeling actual love.
It's good that you're trying to get more comfortable with it.
Uhhh Americans explain this???
?t=40
What's to explain?
What has you so perplexed, anon?
Go back
>You choose to be alone because you see yourself as unworthy.
I'm alobe because of my unworthiness. I cannot fathom why that still hasn't clicked within your thick skull.
What was your excuse for being a failure then?
>What was your excuse for being a failure then?
Nobody excused me nor called me a failure, Anon McLoadedquestion
I didn't obtain a gf because I lacked social skills and as I developed them, I had less time and opportunity to utilize them.
>I'm alobe because of my unworthiness. I cannot fathom why that still hasn't clicked within your thick skull.
Because I disagree with you. Your lack of worth is an opinion that you choose to believe in.
Women what do you mean when you call a guy "cute"?
I get it when a girl is called "cute", but for a man masculinity is meant to be attractive, right? How can an attractive man be "cute"?
Man
I think it has two contexts; charming, or silly. As in "that guy is a goober!"
it's not that complicated. it's a low stakes way of calling you attractive
That's underwhelming but I guess it makes sense. When I call a girl cute I mean it as a genuine descriptor.
I have only ever heard a girl call a guy cute when they're trying to make him think she's into him when she's not.
t. male
I say cute because handsome and hot sound cringe to me when I say them.
What about "good-looking" or just "attractive"? They're a little dull but straightforward and not cringe.
I'd still rather say cute. I'll say something like "your hair looks good today" though.
Cute is absolutely a type of attractive, in a good way
Cute is fluffy curly hair, a big dorky grin, dimples, freckles. Cute can be masculine, all masculinity doesn’t have to look the same
I hate this because women just toss this word around and make men feel worse. Everything to them is cute. Imagine being called cute left and right but no one ever wants to take it a step further.
Girls, are there certain words that turn you on? I mean the words themselves, even if not in a sexual context?
no
The word "no" turns you on? I could see that being troublesome.
get higher effort jokes before you respond to my posts
Bitch or hoe
You a hoe and a slut and a metaphor!
If I heard two girls talking about whether I'm more like Sam or Dean from Supernatural, is that a good thing? And which is better?
What is this 2012? Dean is the himbo and Sam is the smarter more sensitive one. Take that how you will.
JOHN WAYNE WAS NOT CUTE
How dare you, women? How dare you question my masculinity and call me "cute? Why are you so insecure? I'm not insecure!
you are pure sex, brother
girls do be talkin tho, fr!
Girls, if you lived with your boyfriend, would you still give him plenty of alone time if he needed that? He still enjoyed being together with you, but sometimes he values being by himself.
I think any girl that wouldn't is a psycho.
Of course. I need time by myself to do my own shit that you're not interested in and decompress too.
I would but the people who don't communicate this clearly and all of a sudden get distant and pissy are a no.
>posts something
>deletes it
Why does this thread attract such a special breed of complete schizo?
did ur parents ever talk about sex? mine did not. now I am a misogynistic simp!
same
Its so bad
I don't even know what it means
I just know
YJK
I don't wanna clean my room!
based and ifyoutouchapenisyouwillgetpregnantanddie-pilled
I did not have sex ed. This is why I fear 50% of the human race.
Women are scary, it makes my penis twitch!
God is a troll
He trolls outside of /b/
He gives his funniest battles to his silliest clowns
pain is not real
i was JK don't an hero
I am
you're famous!
>pain is not real
I'm saying in the context of "if you think your life sucks right now but will be fine later, don't kill yourself, even if things are horrendous now". When you have lost all hope and all options, then death is fine.
options end when your heart no longer is magnetized, and when you are no longer breathing
>what's your rush now?
>everyone will have his day to die
Love is real, bro
Captcha: G0D
I know you're just joking but that's actually an interesting question. My mom talked about it a little bit and would always say "if you touch a penis you will get pregnant and die" which is a botched quote from mean girls but it definitely contributed to me not having sex until I was 19.
Secondary question, did you have sex Ed in health class?
>did you have sex Ed in health class?
Yes, but it was a complete joke. Much like health class in general.
>complete joke
Well damn I feel lucky now. Mine was decent. We got some of it in 8th grade like the more medical side of things but the putting condoms on a banana part didn't come until 10th.
>putting condoms on a banana part didn't come until 10th
Is that a thing that actually happens? I'm not sure we ever had anything like that. Probably hard to do when you have 14yos dunking on you like my health teachers did though.
state gender and give me a will to carry on
Do it to spite the world which makes you not want to.
Male and I can't, I'm probably ending it tomorrow night.
Think about it from the other angle, I guess: do you really want to die? Do you see yourself ever being truly happy in the future? If the answers are no and then yes, then don't die. Pain is fine, provided it's temporary.
Don't do it
There isn't one.
If you're not cringe you should kill yourself.
I live for cringe
How many dates does it take for a relationship to start? The guy I like is going on a third date with the same girl this weekend and I'm worried it means I've missed my chance.
probs should be looking elsewhere, or not looking at all
You're making me misogynistic!!!1
To be brutally honest, 3 usually means sex and that usually means exclusivity, but not always.
Depends on several factors, but mostly "going exclusive" and what that means to both parties. I once went on 6 dates before she asked to go exclusive. My lonely ass thought we were already exclusive at the first date because she was the first person to actively chat with me in nearly a year.
state gender
at what age people should stop "partying"?
The worsening hangovers will make you stop naturally
Masculinity is NOT CUTE
Yea, I fantasize about superior Chad cock, whataboutit?
literally never
M
Depends on the party. I think 23 is too old for nightclubs, but that might just be the culture of where I live (it's something people in uni do, not people with jobs). Loud house parties, maybe 30ish, but that's mostly just because past that age parties become less appealing.
Depends on what you mean.
Binge drinking in your thirties is fairly brutal for most people.
F
you shouldn't start in the first place!
can I marry you?
This isn't really a question towards either gender but is hatefucking a real thing? How does that occur? What's it even like? I like giving my partner a lot of pleasure during sex and I can't imagine doing that for someone I despise.
I think it's just a porn fantasy but I hear about it a lot.
you get angry, flustered, hot, sexy/ and you make love passionately
Hatefucking is just make up sex that starts when you're still mad at each other. The movie version where you have sex with someone you actually despise or find distasteful isn't real.
Women, how would you react to me giving a surprise chiropractic session, implying we're in a relationship? I just pounce on you and start clicking your joints then give you a massage.
>surprise
Not well. You'd probably hurt me because I tensed up.
Yep. We passed the condom around the room and took turns putting it on the banana with proper procedure. We also learned a lot about STDs. We were 16 at that point.
>passed the condom around the room and took turns putting it on the banana with proper procedure.
Wait, they did this (frankly, stupid) demo and only shelled out for one condom?
Christ I'm so happy I self taught sex ed.
I want to hurt you but like lovingly.
Love is so real, bro
>t. my mom
I'm cool with you doing that if you're trained, just not by surprise
You underestimate how little I actually understood about sex and penises. Penises were a TERRIFYING unknown for me as a teen.
>if you're trained
Trained how?
I'm not going to let you pretend to be a chiropractor and fuck up my back dude. No joint clicking if you don't know what you're doing.
Is spontaneous chiropracty a regular part of your life?
No but I don't need it to be to know that fucking with someone's joints when you don't know what you're doing could have consequences.
I'm not sure if this is reassuring or makes me sad that I don't have a dick worth fearing
Doesn't matter how big it is babe it was scary because it was an unknown. Yours would have been scary too.
A 2 inch dick probably wouldn't scare you
Not that mine is 2 inches or anything
Like I said it has nothing to do with the size. A half inch dick would have scared me simply because it was a dick.
How much longer do you think you can last?
Depends on how the alcoholism plays out
At the current rate? I'm going to poison myself within 24 hours.
If things change? I don't know, I can't read the future.
That is not dead which can eternal lie,And with strange aeons even death may die.
>Reasons to live: spite
GIVE ME TOUGHER BATTLES
Femanons, do you enjoy the men hitting on you here or not?
No
I had never touched a condom before I got enough out of it to figure it out when the real deal happened. I'm glad I had the experience vs having none at all. I don't have a dick to practice on.
>got enough out of it to figure it out when the real deal happened.
...it's a condom. It's so incredibly simple. How did you not feel insulted by being given instructions on how to use one?
It was funny. And I learned something, like I said I'd never seen one. Without any instructions I might have put it on upside down. Calm down.
I guess I'm just confused about how you can learn anything from the demo that you wouldn't know immediately the first time you used one.
for the weird type of women who post here, what sort of places do you go to where men could meet you?
i don't think i like the "normal" women i run into at bars and clubs.
NTA but women here seem to be into books and shit like that
My plan's to join a book club and see if I can meet women there.
we all log off and go normie
>I'm not the man you think I am!
might be age, idk
might be your scene, idk
the girls ITT are the same girls IRL :0
NOT FEMALE
NOT CUTE!!!
honestly probably only online or if you work the same wagie job I do
why do women hate men so much?
>t. has no male friends
I don't hate men I hate the shitty way some of them have treated me and the vile things some of them have done to people. I'm wary of men, not hateful.
GF gets very cold and distant after orgasm. Am I doing something wrong/ what should I do?
is ur gf a tranny?
What are nerdy women into?
The same thing regular women are into
Social status and dick
Nerdy men, or usually men that make them feel smart and talk to them about their interests (Which tends to be more academic or nerdy men)
Great, but where the hell are we gonna meet each other?
Well, I guess we've met here but dating LULZ users just isn't done.
Alright, I'm over myself. I deleted my dating app accounts and uninstalled them. Forgive my moment of weakness.
why did you do that?
Men, how was life on hard mode today?
absurdly boring, kind of wish I had friends to play random stuff at late hours tbh.
It sucks
Horrendous. My life was going fairly well, better than ever before, up until recently. Today I made my mind up, I can't handle falling from this, so I'm just going to end it. I'm tired, living is painful, and yes, I will take the easy way out.
what happened? don't kys yourself btw 🙁
I had my entire life organized for a specific future which is no longer accessible. This is after my life got significantly better. If I were like I were when I was a kid, my life would already suck so it'd be fine, but now I've known joy and love so it's worse.
Don't wanna give too many details bc it could come around to others and they'd know it's me
Got reminded I'll never experience love because I was born a low-value man
I sympathize with troons on some level
>life on hard mode today?
Wouldn't know.
Every time I try to fap I lose my boner and my will to live remembering that no one will ever love me
Same. I try, I get hard, I think of how the one got away, and then I get soft and cry.
🙁
Woke up early for once, got a few things done, calls made, good breakfast of scrambled eggs with fishsticks and Skittles, still managed to be late, got a crippling headache out of nowhere, spent my break lying in the grass outside, ate lunch alone, hustled to get work done, went home with my feet aching and my thighs sore from kettlebells on Monday. I still have to put the trash out and destress so I csn sleep tonight and do it all again tomorrow.
A bit of a mix.
i just started riding my bike again recently and i bunnyhopped a curb but i didn't bring the back wheel up high enough so it slammed into the curb and popped the back wheel. i had to walk my bike back to my car after class and a girl walking next to me made some comment about the wheels being dryrotted or some shit i dunno and i told her what happened and she was like "oh man sorry i didn't realize your tire was actually flat!" and we talked for like two minutes and then we parted ways and she was like "sorry about the bike good luck!" and i was like "no worries have a good one" and that made me feel good.
Should've asked if she regularly comes around here and invite her to bike riding
Went to the internship fair and there was nothing related to my major.
The interviews I was guaranteed haven't materialized and I probably wouldn't have gotten the internship in the first place.
Femanon added me more than 24 hours ago. Haven't seen her come online once ;_; Am I impatient or am I being played with?
Girls, did you buy things when you were young and hide them from your mom?
I think the only thing I hid from her was some sexy manga a friend lent me in freshman year
would you say that your love is stronger than a golden banana?
Femanons, what are your hobbies?
Playing piano, drawing, dnd occasionally, playing video games and watching anime occasionally
I'm depressed and wallowing so I spend most of my time watching other people do my hobbies on YouTube but
most kinds of art, cooking and baking, reading, and hiking.
men or women?
men <3
drawing, 4chinz, adoptable games, I also like to go roller skating with my friends
Young adults aren't going out places.
Women, what websites do you use?
Mostly YouTube. I don't know if I count as a young adult any more though.
How am I gonna chat up women via youtube?
You're not. But that's not what you asked.
>Young adults aren't going out places.
Men maybe, women are still partying and going to clubs and Chad's house
You'll have to show me where. Here is the exact opposite, with swarms of dudes at the bars and the only chicks are village bicycles.
Pinterest. Also Archive of Our Own, and other websites in communities
Thinking about asking my man to get his vasectomy reversed. How do I approach him?
Don't unless you already have children.
If you don't just shut the fuck up.
I want more kids. Plus having sex with a man who's had the snip just feels off to me, like the deep love that comes from sex is gone.
What does sex feel like before and after? Could you be more specific?
I'm asking because my boyfriend agreed to get it but I'm nervous it will affect how he performs sexually.
can they even get reversed?
were you with him when he got it?
>>can they even get reversed?
NTA for the most part they can't be, but women have convinced themselves they can.
85% successful reversal sounds pretty good to me
Fake numbers it's less than 50%.
Why don't you get your tubes tied?
Gladly. But they probably wouldn't let me.
They wouldn't get snipped either than.
I mean "they" as in the doctor dummy. They don't let you get your tubes tied unless you're over 30 and have kids already unless it's medically necessary. And you used to have to get your husband's permission I don't know if that's still a thing. My mom got hers tied almost 20 years ago.
Say you're trans and they'll cut your whole womb out by the next day.
No one is doing entire hysterectomies for trans men. That's a hugely invasive procedure.
I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they do though.
His body his choice.
From behind, with chloroform
women, are you in the metaverse yet?
no and I don't plan on going
LULZ, YouTube,
foids:
does your bf ever "resend" nudes you sent him earlier back to you while sexting? both of the men I've sexted have sent me back my nudes as to say"this is you" or something and I think it's kind of funny/awkward to see those embarrassing photos of myself again after I deleted them off my device
moids:
do you ever do this? send previous nudes back to your girl? why?
>do you ever do this? send previous nudes back to your girl? why?
No but I have thought of doing it.
Not so much do be like this is you, more like this is so sexy I want you to do this again.
But I never have because it seems really strange and she might even think I meant to send it to someone else.
>But I never have because it seems really strange and she might even think I meant to send it to someone else.
that's never crossed my mind, I just assume you're being a horny weirdo lol
I always get a little embarrassed when it happens though
Weird. No this has never happened to me.
I thought it was just a quirk the first guy did but my current bf does it a lot too so I was thinking, is this just a thing men do?
male
yes i've done it because i think it's funny.
especially if it's out of the blue. like she's at the grocery store and goes "you want anything?" and i send her a picture of her spreading her butthole.
the worst is when they pop back with me gripping my dick like a caveman. i prefer when she just goes "omg im at target what the fuck" and i send the sunglasses emoji
>the worst is when they pop back with me gripping my dick like a caveman
jej I should do this next time
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read
Getting your tubes tied is not the same as getting your uterus removed. A tubal ligation is pretty easy you can leave the hospital the same day, with a hysterectomy you're there for several days.
>This is the stupidest thing I've ever read
It also makes me feel old. That sounds like a distinctly zoomer thing to do.
Imagine being such a degenerate to actually take a picture of yourself naked and then even sharing it
i want my bf to jerk off to me
I don't want him to jerk off to porn, only to me
>I don't want him to jerk off to porn, only to me
i don't think this is necessarily a reasonable request. the last girl i was seeing literally did not say no to anything sexual. i mean, nothing was off the table. understand what i mean when i say that.
and still, sometimes i want to beat off to a big huge fat woman. sometimes i want to beat off to some asian woman getting groped on a subway. it doesn't mean i want to actually fuck the big fat woman, it doesn't mean i want to fuck the asian woman. it doesn't mean i want to fuck anyone else, it's just a thing i do.
doesn't mean the nudes aren't appreciated either. it's more the act of getting them rather than the content itself, like "hey check THIS out", like a little gift that shows she was thinking about me.
i'm 27, bub
>27
I'm still older but now I just feel out of touch
>i want to beat off to a big huge fat woman
disgusting
Then maybe date someone decent? I mean I consider porn just as bad as cheating.
Was it your initiative to start sending nudes or did your bf ask you to?
Lol. You are delusional if you think a guy watching porn makes him not a decent person.
well, porn is a sin and watching does mean you will go to hell.
but it is really cool and fun to do so ya know, pros and cons.
Not everyone shares the same religious beliefs as you, so talking like that on the internet of all places makes you look ridiculous.
>Porn is as bad as cheating
Delusional. Looking at porn is to cheating what watching a violent movie is to murder.
oh he told me he pretty much only jerks off to my pics unless he asks me to send him hentai (sometimes I do that)
I was just saying that
f never sent nudes
Fuck, I really wish I didn't stumble upon her twitter.
Not only did she like something about 6'4 guys, but also a lot of things about men, like 'why as a guy would you play hard to get when its hard to even like you guys anyways'. Like we're boyfriend and girlfriend, why is she liking stuff like this?
I think I need to bring this up to her next time I see her. I'll listen and not accuse her of anything but I need to tell her I found her twitter and some of it seemed a little weird to me. I'll probably look insecure but idfk. I feel like shit right now.
Would you recommend a woman keep dating a guy that posts incel shit?
Is this incel shit I'm posting? Should I not care that she liked a joke about 6'4 guys being hung?
I'm trying to think about one of my old friends, he is also my height at like 5'8 but was cool as fuck and probably wouldn't give a shit about this, so i'm trying to channel that energy
No
She's femcelposting
Would you recommend a woman date a guy who incelposts?
>She's femcelposting
Seems like the kind of posting 99% of women do on social media to me
interesting lol. i haven't looked at it like that.
um... i guess no? lol.
she's just prettier than most girls i've dated. i want to make it work, femcel or not. but interesting perspective.
>female cucks
GOAT fetish.
Nta but they're comparing what she is saying to incel shit, not you
fair enough but yea sort of like what
says it seems somewhat typical? but yeah. she clearly was burned buy a guy in the past (she told me as much).. a lot of posts about like 'the only man i like is my dad' - this was from months before we met though.. so idk. i'd be happy to be the guy to turn her opinion around, but maybe i'm not doing that as well as i thought i was. blah.
whatever - i'm meeting her first family this weekend (cousin) and will meet her parents next month. she seems serious about me. so i'll try to ignore this stuff for now i guess but its hard
I wouldn't call that an insecurity, but a boundary
Eh yea fair enough. I think I'll bring it up to her and be like 'soo you like tall guys huh?' or something and sort of keep it light, and hope she responds all like 'its a joke babe relax!' in which case i won't care. but if she gets all defensive and uppity, that will seem like a red flag to me.
I'm not sure about the best way to go about it, but if she gets defensive then I (personally) would end things then and there as she doesn't seem to respect you
I think that makes sense... yeah
I mean it is a little weird maybe that I snooped around and found her twitter but I don't think its THAT weird. We did talk about looking for each others social media and stuff before and she said like 'well follow each other soon' so its only natural I would be curious. Anyways idk, if I see her next time and she's all sweet and great, I'll maybe just drop it. But I just get upset too because on days I don't see her, she barely messages/calls me and I do more of the reaching out... so idk... I'm really just in my head a lot here lol. Haven't felt for a girl in a long time so... its tough for me... I'm needy too I guess..
how long have you been together?
Been dating for like 5 weeks now, but we went past the dating stage to being official about 1 week ago now. So, pretty early still. I want to get past this early stage. Yesterday though, she had a work event at night that fell through and so she asked me to meet her for a happy hour... and it was one of the best times we've had yet. She was all over me and very sweet and cute. She's amazing in person. But then when I don't see her I get weird vibes
>being official about 1 week
alright lets cool it on the stalking her twitter one week into being together. you're at like a 8 or 9 right now crank it back to maybe a 3 or 4. take it easy, let it ride for a couple weeks, see if anything changes, then consider going "uh the stuff u say on twitter kinda makes me upset"
Hah, alright, thank you all, I appreciate that. That makes me feel better actually. Yeah, I guess I'm pretty crazy. I'll just fuckin relax lol.
5 Weeks, isn't alot of time. However her going out of her way to invite you for drinks is a good sign. I would play it by ear and see if it's appropriate to bring it up at all. You could wait and see if similar posts continue since even if she does like you, 5 weeks isn't much. If you're official for any substantial period of time and she's still posting these behind your back that's pretty fishy to me specially if something feels off
Oh Jesus the way you were talking about it I assumed you had been together for months. Slow your roll bud.
What do men think of female cucks?
What would you think of your girlfriend telling you she watches female cuck porn (her bf/husband has sex with other women) or has this fetish?
>What do men think of female cucks?
I don't think they exist
>What would you think of your girlfriend telling you she watches female cuck porn (her bf/husband has sex with other women) or has this fetish?
I don't believe her
"Female cucks" are just girls who unwillingly share Chad because they'd rather be his sidepiece than an average man's gf
You're talking to one so yes we do exist.
Do you have a bf?
I have a bf and our relationship isn't open and we are monogamous but I still watch (female) cuck porn and have the fetish.
Then see the second response. There's no reason for female cucks to exist, so why would they?
I'd ask her how did she even found out she had that fetish.
I hate cucks of all genders, races, creeds
If you're a cuck I hope you change
Be normal, monogamy is good
Women,
what are your thoughts on men who get cosmetic surgery? It seems like the general view of society is that it "just screams insecurity" and admittedly I used to buy into that, but if technology gives you the means with little side effects why not? I ask because I've been thinking of getting lazer treatment for a pesky acne scar.
I don't think anyone should get cosmetic surgery
be honest about yourself
even for something simple like an acne scar? It's not like I'm considering bone lengthening surgery. My dermatologist even said I may be able to do the treatment and consultation the same day as little as a couple hundred bucks.
yeah I guess I should have clarified which kind since there's such a broad range, from benign cosmetic surgeries to pretty extreme ones.
meh if it's an acne scar or something dermatological I don't see a problem. but changing bone structure is weird
male, i had braces. that's a "cosmetic surgery". and it made me a lot happier and more confident.
i had a mole on my cheek that i didn't like, got it removed. did it matter? no, but i didn't like it.
dude if you don't like a thing about you, fix it. yes, it's a rabbit hole, don't inject fillers or get implants to change your eye color. but if you don't like a spot on your nose, or that you're crosseyed, just fuckin do it if it bothers you. no one will give a shit one way or the other, so if it makes you feel better, go for it.
>i had braces. that's a "cosmetic surgery"
same. Don't know why I'm being so neurotic about this in particular. No I don't like having a crater in my face from a massive zit I had when I was a teenager. Fuck it, if it's cheap enough, and 90% sure it will be, I'll just do it.
I'm not a fan of the invasive ones that come with risks but laser hair removal or what you want to do seems pretty tame. I have a gross scar on my neck I wouldn't mind doing that to.
It's a great idea. Never understood why ugly men who make good money don't just get surgery instead of whining constantly that women don't want them. If you can afford it, do it
>the men at work have always been ugly or old dudes so they're basically invisible to me
>never understood how anyone could feel attracted to coworkers
>new guy started this week
>young and handsome
Oh fuck. I whipped my head around every time he walked by like "damn, he really looks like that?" How do I keep myself from being distracted by him further, ugh
male hands typed this post.
No, why do you think so?
men, how big are your boobs?
women, how big are your cocks?
0 inches
I'm an A cup, I guess?
My strap-on is 7"
nta, do you really own an strap on?
why did you get it?
Because I enjoy pegging. Why else would I have one?
Around D cup
According to the bra calculator I am a 40A.
We appreciate your extra effort towards accuracy
I just remember shopping for sports bras last year.
????
Imagine for a moment that you're playing paintball. You've spent a ton of money on gear, literally thousands of dollars. Then some giggling asshole wearing a lime green sports bra and jeans pops out of the bushes and rekts you.
I would like to be that giggling asshole.
Still not getting why it has to be a sports bra but I respect your vision
>why it has to be a sports bra
Because it's funny.
Can't argue with that. I think it'd be funnier with a bodycon mini dress though. Still wear a cup of course.
>bodycon mini dress
Not bad, but I'm not sure I'll be able to maintain mobility in one.
It's easy to be mobile in one! They ride up though so your ass might be out but that could be to your benefit if you're going for shock factor.
Actually, the dress might be a better shitpost:exposed skin ratio.
Girls, would you wake your bf up with a blowjob?
If we have talked about beforehand, yes.
Otherwise it’s rape and I’m not into that
Femanons, do you like drawings of big meaty cocks
No they're kind of gross to see randomly
If I'm in the mood for that, I'd rather they be attached to someone
Only white ones and they can be small too, with foreskin.
No furry bear shit. I don't want to visualize a meaty berry bush.
I mean if she told her parents about me and is having me meet them and her best friend and cousin... she likes me, right...?
Men (or anyone), how was or is your experience as a teenager or in high school?
I got into drugs and stopped caring about school, I skateboarded a lot and got black out drunk at local metal shows that my friends put on almost every weekend.
miserable
I grew from being an awkward, cross country running, late bloomer, to homecoming king. It was fun; life was finally good until Covid took away my last 3 months of school.
>Covid denied you the one almost enjoyable part of highschool
I'm genuinely sorry anon I still can't fathom how much the pandemic must have fucking SUCKED for kids
nta, but yeah covid wrecked my senior year of college. Life goes on I guess.
I was a state-bound track runner too. Oh well, had a year of bastardized covid uni before I shipped out.
nta but yeah covid started at the end of my HS senior year and then totally ruined my freshman year of college because everything was online. to be honest I should have taken a gap year in-between to let things go at least a little bit back to normal instead of having to do basically all online classes freshman year. I don't have any friends at college because I wasn't able to establish myself really (or I hope that's why lol)
>to be honest I should have taken a gap year in-between
basically what i did. when they started doing zoom courses i was in my sophomore year, and i just thought "if i wanted to do online school i would have done it". i didn't enroll the next semester. i did some remote work, got into different hobbies, visited friends and family in other states. it was fun. finally going back this fall. maybe took a bit of a longer break than i wanted but i'm glad i did it and i grew a lot.
M
I played wow all days with the boys and was in marching band and was on the drumline.
I missed so much school in 4 years that I actually missed an entire school year by the end
Still passed with a 3.7 gpa
Isolated and miserable
Clown, embarassed freak, tried to get attention, felt humiliated, some people liked me, never made any friends on purpose
Why do women
cause they kinda cute, i guess
Thoughts on US' constantly dropping average IQ?
One of the many benefits of the 1965 immigration act, isn't it so exciting!
Not surprised. The education system here is godawful compared to other countries. Even some third world shitholes run their schools better than we do.
>Even some third world shitholes run their schools better than we do.
Fucking how?
Nta. Not sure what 3rd worlders are doing but the primary goal of the US education system is to churn out obedient workers/consumers who follow orders and don't ask questions.
India for example, total shithole but they take education extremely seriously, have long schooldays filled with intense work and high expectations. No "inclusion" bullshit and zero tolerance for laziness. Hence they churn out engineers and doctors like crazy.
Actually the primary goal is to dumb everything down to retard levels, then continuing passing kids to the next grade even if they failed everything anyway. No holding anyone back or accountability for actually meeting standards because it might hurt the poor baby's feelings uwu So you end up with high school graduates who can't speak English, or can't read, or can't do mental math, and we have to constantly import foreign workers for STEM jobs.
chinese mind control apps
What's in-between invading the white house January 6 style and laying down to die alone.
Embarrassingly edgy but too apathetic to do anything
After all the shit I've had to deal with on dating apps, once I actually find a bf I gonna appreciate him so much and never let him go. I cannot go back to this shit ever again once I get out. Anyone else feel like this? Why does online dating have to be so awful goddamn
Idk, dating apps were okay, but too many creeps and mentally unwell people. I was social at the same time so got to keep my sanity.
When I did meet my gf I didn’t let go
why do some women get crushes on super ugly dudes, I've always felt confounded at this
If you're not attracted to men attraction to men isn't going to make sense to you
It makes me jealous, like what am I doing wrong? Then I start feeling misogynistic, like she probably just likes him for his money or thinks he won't cheat because he's so fuck ugly
It's a lot more complicated than that. Maybe he has an amazing singing voice or is really good at something she finds impressive.
whatever, if she likes someone who isn't me she's a loser and she should kill herself
true
Have you considered that that attitude right there is why nobody likes you?
My therapist and my mom think I'm cool
Your mom has to love you unless you're a pedo or a murderer and your therapist is paid to listen to you. Might want to raise the bar for yourself a little.
Is it bad that I know what you mean and this just makes me want to murder someone
my therapist wants my cock I'm pretty sure
Because attraction is a lot more than looks. It can get you in the door or make people more likely to perceive you positively but they're obviously doing something right
they're probably charming or smart or nice or fun to hang out with. I'll start to see you as charming
that can make me perceive you as attractive even if you are not considered conventionally attractive
i started dating this short fat girl and originally it was just about having someone to have sex with regularly because i was lonely. she was fun to talk to and all but definitely not long term material. i even wrote something similar in my journal. well, time moved on and she lost some weight and i ended up not really caring about that stuff. i liked her a lot. we dated for about 5 years.
in a weird twist of fate, the fact that i'd sort of built the relationship on being initially aloof and distant bit me in the ass because i'd carved those grooves so deep that it felt like i couldn't change my behavior later on, and we broke up.
wish women were sluttier towards me
I'm not even horny anymore I just want to dominate women
This is called being an abuser
Not really if I don't ever do any abusive things
Goodnight I love you
need this so bad
Why are men
Cause
Humans weren't cool enough to do the whole asexual reproduction thing.
We're all descendants of single cell organisms and the most successful single cell organisms are the ones that eat each-other most efficiently
Why do people like me? It doesn't make sense, they're useless
I love women and I wish I had a woman to love.
Women can suck my dick
I wish women were real
You can get them to be real temporarily during conversation but they'll revert back to fake once they confront any situation.
What I just described is called being neurotypical, maybe you need an austistic girl but they have their own special downsides
women cannot suck my dick
What are millennials' opinions on chains like chili's, applebees or TGIF, too casual, too expensive, who goes there anymore?
The food is shit so it's not worth paying for
Currently, during times of inflation, might as well go somewhere with actually good food because it seems like the shit garbage chains always puff up their prices first . buying from them is a rip off
They generally like it. Their parents would take them to similar “restaurants” as children so they have a fondness of these bland diner chains
I don't think you know what a diner is
I haven't been to a restaurant since they removed the smoking section.
Diners existed long before that you should know what a diner is
I do. Google the definition if you struggle
Applebee's is not a diner. It's too big and doesn't have a counter just a bar.
Close. Scroll up a bit and read the top
That is the top dummy. The first diners were literally the dining cars of trains. It's a specific kind of restaurant. Applebee's themselves say they're a "grill and bar".
murder seem fun honestly. I'd just need to make sure I don't murder a woman, a black, an asian or a fag to make it politically correct
I want to approach one qt at gym but shes kinda young.
She does glance at me very often, and last time i think she was trying to get my attention.
Yesterday she was doing some exercise and we had brief eye contact in mirror, and then she tried extra hard during exercise, and then sat down on a floor exhausted with face red.
Cute!
Should i walk up some day and say i see her often and she has nice technique on exercises.
You're delusional, grandpa. The glance she gave was likely more of a "why is that old creep looking at me again?" vs being interested
Repressing your attraction to her is unhealthy but also don't sexually harass her. Just strike up a normal conversation and gauge the tone of her reaction. If she's too young for you chances are she'll see you as a mentor figure honestly. Sad but true. Gone are the greek days where it was socially acceptable to rape one's pupils
Women don't go to the gym to have conversations with random creeps, they go there to work out. Why do men feel entitled to women's attention even when it's in a place like a gym or grocery store where she's just trying to get things done?
This person doesn't know how to have a conversation anymore.
Women only care about your attractiveness, if you aren't hot they don't want to be approached ever and if you are there is never a bad time.
Correct, yet average and ugly guys continue to approach us constantly anyway
>nice technique
Creepy. No.
Not if you're sincere
just go talk to her, you know how to start a conversation right?
What would you consider as the edge of casual dining, but almost too fancy.
All genders.
Should I start drinking? I'm hugely depressed
I like drinking a lot, try to do something good for yourself while you drink: work on a skill, consume high quality media
I'm just afraid, that I can have a addiction.
Almost all my friends have an addiction, but they are normal. But I can't, it destroy me
No it will make your life worse.
My life not very good right now. I just wanna numb my problems
No. That'll be an easy road to addiction. Go to therapy or see a psych for actual meds
Ladies
if your date took you on a dinner date, but you had to wait outside the restaurant in a line, does this change your opinion of him and the date.
If the wait is longer than 20 minutes I'm asking if we can go somewhere else.
20 minutes that's it?
Yeah. I'm sure there are other decent restaurants around.
As long as he's paying, I don't really care if we have to wait.
Why is sex so uncommon. Why are women seemingly so anti-sex? It agitates my soul
They're only anti sex with you.
Okay are you just gonna be mean or will you explain what you mean by that
Women have lots of sex, with lots of people, you're not one of those people.
What is there to explain, you are not sexually desirable to women for whatever reason
Unless you're male, in which case opinion disregarded. Doesn't sound like something a woman would say
ahhhh it's the demoralization squad
If you'd rather delude yourself into thinking women don't like sex than do anything to make yourself more appealing that's your prerogative.
I have to be myself. Shit talkers need to die quickly and painfully
>Shit talkers
Go ahead and be yourself but yourself should know that women like sex.
I try really hard to look interesting. That makes me happy. Shit talkers (male) say I look like a clown and a serial killer . Women look at me a lot
my bodycount is 20 and apparently the average is 4. Over the years I've had luck on tinder but I tend to make women insecure during conversation somehow. I don't know how to stop . I feel elitist
>Shit talkers (male) say I look like a clown and a serial killer . Women look at me a lot
if there was a clown serial killer sitting across from me in a waiting room i would probably look at them a lot.
And I'd think you want to fuck me
>ahhhh it's the demoralization squad
Look up the average number of sexual partners if you don't want to believe that people are having sex.
Why am I subconsciously specialized towards relationships? I want to be specialized towards fucking
How can I cure my depression? Prozac doesn't work good enough
But it works a little? I tried to kill myself when I was on Prozac. Up your dose?
I drink it about a month, and I still tired of being.
Why I should be alive?
Well, I was on a therapy and it doesn't work.
Time for more extreme treatments like TMS or ECT then
Nta but TMS claims to do the same thing as ssris and the jury is still out on whether ECT is beneficial at all or not.
Do Americans outside of the deep south actually say "y'all" or is it a twittard thing?
100% twittard thing
Only "ironically". And weirdly it's more concentrated in the lgbtqia+ community.
Well this shit talker (female) thinks your main problem is probably being annoying.
>being annoying.
That could mean anything
The only people who do that who aren't from the south are shitlibs.
Black ppl do
Why is the name Devin so gay?
He isn't gay
Ok, Devin
Yikes
used to know a guy named Baiden
What the fuck
It's not in my perception. The guy I know was short but he was decidedly hot and not in a gay way.
drink? And if you mean you've only been taking it for a month that's not long enough to get the full effect and you're not on your maintenance dose yet. Wait it out.
to be honest, it was almost all spring. From march. I don't wanna so long shit
what wrong with me
Parts of your brain are inactive or missing chemicals. Look at the before/after brainscan images for those treatments
Do you believe in fate? Maybe some people should end their path now.
Just found out a girl is israeli, probably going to ghost her because I'm aware of the Semitic gene hijackers.
I love being annoying. If you're annoyed that means you're stressed and weak. I know it's true. lol kill yourself
Strong people don't get annoyed
Strong people are like big dogs, weak people are like little dogs. The aggressive, angry, loud ones are the small ones because the big ones don't feel threatened or like they have to prove anything.
Femanons did you do a bunch of lesbian stuff at sleep overs?
All this talk about Devin being a gay name reminded me of my friend Devin and other friends in middle school and they'd do gay shit every time there was a sleepover.
Only once. Practice kissing. And it was weird. Looking back I think that friend had a crush on me.
No
What gay shit did you do?
>What gay shit did you do?
I mean I didn't engage in it, but they would spoon with each other while sleeping and I believe they were touching each others cocks, they tried to get me to join them but I really wasn't interested, the next morning I spooned with a female friend that was there too, but in a different room so I think I got the better hand.
Ah no wait that's not completely true there was another friend I had who insisted on wearing nothing but a t-shirt to bed and always tried to get me to touch her boobs.
Kinda
I had a friend that liked to be nude. So she'd come over and we'd play dressup with scarves and other shit.
I was sort of attracted to her.
Both genders, what's your opinion of Canadians?
maples syrup, and zoophiles involving dogs
Canadian men are the best kind.
I need an import pipeline.
Where are you?
NTA but I have a Canadian friend who wants American citizenship, you should marry him.
How old is he?
I believe he is 32.
NTA but I'm looking for a way out
you help me I help you
Some are good people.
My Grandpa grew up there and I have a lot of friends who's family is from Canada.
M
I've met a fuckton of Canadians in Melbourne, Cuckstralia for some reason. They've invariably been duplicitous and obnoxious.
Women, would you ever marry a guy friend to help him gain citizenship?
Guy friend? No. Boyfriend? Yes
My ex was a foreigner and I would've married him
Why not?
assuming you're not in a relationship, and he was a really really close guy friend, you wouldn't marry him to help him gain citizenship?
No because marriage means something to me. I'd have to stay married for life.
, and besides, I don't have any guy friends so
Sir that is illegal