>atheism will die out because they make less babies than christians

>atheism will die out because they make less babies than christians
>also, every atheist is atheist because they are rebelling against their christian parents
Which is it?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >evolution is real
    >but it won't cause the atheist / homosexual genes to disappear
    which is it?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >athiest genes
      moron alert, moron alert

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pop Atheism is a fad that will eventually fade away.
    We will always have atheists as we always have, but this specific modern strand of Rick and Morty facts n' logic owning teh christcucks Atheism is unsustainable and will go away.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I still don't get how Christianity is supposed to deal with modern information technology
      when people can see non-Christians on the other side of the globe, who believes silly bullshit for the same reasons they think Christianity is true
      How does that not cause doubt?

      While also being pushed back on all falsifiable claims
      Seems like a disaster

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Like, you can't put the genie back in the bottle
        people have now been exposed to the idea that it's stupid to think some guy rose from the dead 2000 years ago just because book says so
        or that it's silly to think some guy talked to an angel in a cave 1500 years ago because book says so
        How you make those thoughts go away?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why are those things silly again? Because of a secular, materialist, atheistic worldview, you just put that away, which was imposed on you little by little since you were born, and you are a believer again.

          >It's silly to think that a man rose from the dead come on man!
          >I disagree, please go away now.
          >But why?
          >Because I choose to believe so.

          You'd be surprised how many of your own ideas, which you probably hold as undeniable, can easily be thrown away in an instant, just because you want to. Like, for example, the idea that democracy is good. You can throw that away in an instant, or gender equality, you can eliminate that too if you want.

          Simply use postmodernism against itself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Seems like a disaster
        It is a disaster, as statistics for the rate of Christianity in highly developed countries show. Or if you're braver than the average Oyishtorian and actually go outside you can possibly see it for yourself.
        Sunday morning in massive buildings and the places are mostly empty and the average person is in retirement age. Denominations split up 50 different ways with little corner churches that come and go like the breeze. Old churches being converted into apartment buildings and businesses. The Catholics got a new priest that's from South America because he needs to speak to the ever growing population of Mexicans, and the numbers of English speakers is slowly dwindling. The largest growth is in weird pentecostal and non-denominational groups and their services look like rock concerts. Older more conservative church members who have been around their whole lives lamenting that the kids do not give a shit about abortion or banning gay marriage.
        I've seen it all because I've actually visited a wide range of churches and spoken to lots of people instead of keeping Christianity as a theoretical bludgeon to use on an anonymous imageboard, and I live in the 'Bible belt" even. Only dishonest arrogant idiots deny the current situation.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, so what's your diagnosis? What's to be done?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, modern SJW churches with transgender clergy will do that to you. you know why they're thriving in Mexico and Nigeria? because they don't do SJW crap there.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >this specific modern strand of Rick and Morty facts n' logic owning teh christcucks Atheism is unsustainable and will go away.
      For the most part, it already has.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it you fricking people think that athiests have no spirtuality?

    Why can't I have spirtuality towards aesthetics or myself? Why do i have to waste my spirtuality towards some obviously fake god??
    Is it some form a jealousy that I can function in human society without needing to be a weak person by just letting some religion rob me of my spirituality???
    I legitametly dont understand

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Nietzsche
      Cope for STD-havers. Appreciation for art and beauty are not enough if one's autistic. God died, but he also rose again on the third day.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >appreciation for art and beauty
        I never said an appreciation. I said a spirtuality.
        Do you
        >appreciate god
        >thanks man for existing, I'll just be going about my daily life

        It seems like you never had much spirtual strength at all, let alone what spirtuality you do have is given to some imaginary gay in the sky.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Define spirituality, please.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The belief towards something regardless of reason

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, that's (one) definition of faith.

            What is the definition of spirituality?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Spirituality involves the recognition of a feeling or sense or belief that there is something greater than myself, something more to being human than sensory experience, and that the greater whole of which we are part is cosmic or divine in nature. The term spirit means "animating or vital principle in man and animals". It is derived from the Old French espirit, which comes from the Latin word spiritus (soul, ghost, courage, vigor, breath) and is related to spirare (to breathe). There is no single, widely agreed-upon definition of spirituality. Modern spirituality centers on the "deepest values and meanings by which people live". It often embraces the idea of an ultimate or an alleged immaterial reality. It envisions an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of his or her being. Secular spirituality emphasizes humanistic ideas on moral character (qualities such as love, compassion, patience, tolerance, forgiveness, contentment, responsibility, harmony, and a concern for others). These are aspects of life and human experience which go beyond a purely materialist view of the world without necessarily accepting belief in a supernatural reality or any divine being. The only way you can truly know what it is, is by listening to or watching the testimonies of those who have experienced (non-religious) out of body experiences or those with the natural gift of speaking with the dead or aliens and have their third eye open to relay to us what actual SPIRITS from the other side tell us it is. It's your essence. You're soul is the real you and you're spirit is your energy or essence or memory of you. Your body is like a costume.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I never said an appreciation. I said a spirtuality.
          Cope for STD-havers. Spirituality is not enough if one's autistic. God died, but he also rose again on the third day. Are you happy now?

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if you can't tell then you deserve to be lost.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >WE FRICKING LOVE ATHEISM

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >yes I'm an incel but statistically us christians are having sex
    Always makes me laugh

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism being such a big deal in america is so weird to watch

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even a talking point in American civil life. Outside of the fricking middle east, it's literally only Oyish where it's an issue.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I've literally lost 3 jobs because I'm an atheist

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          have you considered not applying for work at churches

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I just wanna work at private Catholic schools were the pay is better
            they ask if you believe in God when they hire you, then fire you if they think you lied about that (I got no ethical issues with lying about this)

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You must be fine with people lying to you to your face then, since it has no ethical problems for you to do so.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I just wanna work at private Catholic schools were the pay is better
            >they ask if you believe in God when they hire you, then fire you if they think you lied about that
            Based. I feel no pity for you, get fricked, you dishonest piece of shit.

            Look, I'm perfectly capable of larping as if I believe in God. I really did believe for the majority of life. I'm a bit of an agnostic, maybe I changed my mind, then changed back again.

            The problem is I got surprised by the interest my students took in me, they "doxxed" me to when I was featured in old video debates, which made it blatant I'm a scoffer
            This happened at the 1st and 3rd school
            The 2nd time it was them changing their mind about it being okay for be to a non-believer. They said it was cool. Then later told me it wasn't.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I got surprised by the interest my students took in me, they "doxxed" me to when I was featured in old video debates, which made it blatant I'm a scoffer
            >This happened at the 1st and 3rd school
            >The 2nd time it was them changing their mind about it being okay for be to a non-believer. They said it was cool. Then later told me it wasn't.
            Then how about you stop fricking trying to teach in a Catholic school? You're not wanted there, larper.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They were hiring, the pay is better, the travel is short and Catholics are nice

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >They were hiring,
            Not you, obviously. Because, you know, you do not meet the requirements for the position and are a liar.
            >the pay is better,
            There are good paydays everywhere.
            >Catholics are nice
            And yet you will not accept that a non-believer teacher is not appropriate in a fricking Catholic school
            Also this anon is right

            I just wanna work at private Catholic schools were the pay is better
            they ask if you believe in God when they hire you, then fire you if they think you lied about that (I got no ethical issues with lying about this)

            I definitely don't want somebody as dishonest as you teaching my children.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't feel bad about lying about believing in God or not, at all

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I just don't feel bad about lying
            >Actual psycho
            You should not be a teacher period.

            >I just don't feel bad about lying about being faithful to my husband, at all
            >I just don't feel bad about lying about committing fraud, at all
            >I just don't feel bad about lying about killing someone, at all
            >I just don't feel bad about lying
            >I just don't feel bad
            >I just don't feel

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's because I think God it made-up

            If you could get a great job, but it required you lie about believing in Santa Claus
            Can you imagine how that lie wouldn't feel bad? I just don't take it seriously
            Compared to lying to my husband about having cheated on him, that would feel really bad, I don't think I would even do it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >It's because I think God it made-up
            Then don't fricking work at a fricking Catholic school and cry about it when you're eventually found out, you lied to your employers, you lied about meeting one of the requirements for the position, which is basically fraud. I absolutely applaud those students for exposing you, they will be good honorable Catholic men one day.
            >If you could get a great job, but it required you lie about believing in Santa Claus
            False equivalence, a belief in Santa Claus is nowhere near close to the implications of believing or not in a Creator, the weight of these two beliefs are absolutely not comparable. Also, if a position required me to believe in Santa Claus, then that sounds to me like an awful job that I'd definitely not want to get.
            >Can you imagine how that lie wouldn't feel bad? I just don't take it seriously
            See points above.
            >Compared to lying to my husband about having cheated on him, that would feel really bad, I don't think I would even do it
            The cheating wife wouldn't feel bad at all. What about if she got the offer of getting a high paying job for cheating on her husband and she said:
            > I just don't take it seriously

            Also, like I said, the more damning aspect of all of this is you lying and defrauding your employers about meeting a requirement for the positions, they are the true victims here, and the students, and the parents who pay good money to the schools to ensure that they will receive a quality Catholic education, and will develop themselves in a Catholic environment and with Catholic peers and teachers, you disrupted all that for your selfish desire of getting more money and convenience for you.

            Frick you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I already told you, I think the God belief is like the Santa Claus belief. I'm not worried about it.
            I also told you it was a great place to work, the pay is good and the people who believe in Santa are nice.
            I already told you, I would feel bad about lying about cheating (and the actual cheating)

            You're just silly. There's no point for you to engage with my post if you are going to respond with stuff I didn't write.
            Turns about being an atheist is scandalous, you can get fired for lying about it. Big deal in America.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >me me me me me me me me me me
            You're such an insufferable moron. How did someone like you become a teacher?
            >I already told you, I think the God belief is like the Santa Claus belief. I'm not worried about it.
            And I already debunked that and showed you how that's fricking moronic.
            >I also told you it was a great place to work, the pay is good
            You willing to lie in the requirements for your own benefit shows the type of person you are. Being unable to acknowledge the effects of your actions on other people (lying to your employers, students and the parents) is really making you sound like a psychopath.
            and the people who believe in Santa are nice.
            Were the students that exposed you "nice"?
            >I already told you, I would feel bad about lying
            Is proclaiming to believe in something when you don't for personal benefit not lying now? I wonder what your employers think if it is or not.
            >You're just silly. There's no point for you to engage with my post if you are going to respond with stuff I didn't write.
            No idea what you're talking about here, all my responses are based on what youv'e said so far.
            >Turns about being an atheist is scandalous,
            In a Catholic school of course it is, moron.
            >you can get fired for lying about it. Big deal in America.
            Indeed, God bless this country, one in which scumbags like you can be succesfully be kicked out. Trully a wonderful nation.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, someone is really dependent on Santa Claus being real

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >t.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I just didn't realize people took this stuff so seriously

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If you're a teacher shouldn't you have heard about something called the Crusades?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why did you cut out "about believing in god"?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it makes no difference whether you believe in god or not or which god, the question is do you believe in yourself.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I just wanna work at private Catholic schools were the pay is better
            >they ask if you believe in God when they hire you, then fire you if they think you lied about that
            Based. I feel no pity for you, get fricked, you dishonest piece of shit.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Good I hope you become homeless

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why you guys acting like this is the worst thing I could possibly do? Christians lie all the time
            It's not like I got fired for something I did, or didn't do, on the job

            What happened to me has strong parallels for people getting fired for unrelated stuff they did on social media, bashing the gays, etc

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Why you guys acting like this is the worst thing I could possibly do?
            It's an extremely shitty thing to do
            See:

            >It's because I think God it made-up
            Then don't fricking work at a fricking Catholic school and cry about it when you're eventually found out, you lied to your employers, you lied about meeting one of the requirements for the position, which is basically fraud. I absolutely applaud those students for exposing you, they will be good honorable Catholic men one day.
            >If you could get a great job, but it required you lie about believing in Santa Claus
            False equivalence, a belief in Santa Claus is nowhere near close to the implications of believing or not in a Creator, the weight of these two beliefs are absolutely not comparable. Also, if a position required me to believe in Santa Claus, then that sounds to me like an awful job that I'd definitely not want to get.
            >Can you imagine how that lie wouldn't feel bad? I just don't take it seriously
            See points above.
            >Compared to lying to my husband about having cheated on him, that would feel really bad, I don't think I would even do it
            The cheating wife wouldn't feel bad at all. What about if she got the offer of getting a high paying job for cheating on her husband and she said:
            > I just don't take it seriously

            Also, like I said, the more damning aspect of all of this is you lying and defrauding your employers about meeting a requirement for the positions, they are the true victims here, and the students, and the parents who pay good money to the schools to ensure that they will receive a quality Catholic education, and will develop themselves in a Catholic environment and with Catholic peers and teachers, you disrupted all that for your selfish desire of getting more money and convenience for you.

            Frick you.

            >Also, like I said, the more damning aspect of all of this is you lying and defrauding your employers about meeting a requirement for the positions, they are the true victims here, and the students, and the parents who pay good money to the schools to ensure that they will receive a quality Catholic education, and will develop themselves in a Catholic environment and with Catholic peers and teachers, you disrupted all that for your selfish desire of getting more money and convenience for you.

            >Christians lie all the time
            >B-b-b-but they do it too!
            Pathetic. And also, when Christians lie, we have an objective morality from God that tells us that lying is evil, especially lying for your benefit. You have nothing so you feel free to lie and defraud people like your employers and students without feeling a sliver of remorse.
            >It's not like I got fired for something I did, or didn't do, on the job
            You lied about meeting the requirements that were asked of you to get the position. And you continued on with that lie for the rest of your stay at that school.
            >What happened to me has strong parallels for people getting fired for unrelated stuff they did on social media, bashing the gays, etc
            Look, I hate Twatter as much as the next guy, but if a company has a certain image to mantain, and you as an employee of that company, representing that company, post content online that goes against the company's image, they're in the right to kick you out, you are on the wrong there too.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >also, when Christians lie, we have an objective morality from God that tells us that lying is evil, especially lying for your benefit. You have nothing so you feel free to lie and defraud people like your employers and students without feeling a sliver of remorse.
            >when christians lie
            So... You lie even with the creator of existence's explicit law not to? Some objective morality you got there lmao

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            ..............What the frick does the objectivity or non-objectivity of a law has to do with individuals not abiding by that law? How the frick does failing to uphold a law negates the objectivity of the law? Every secular law we've established is broken on a daily basis, does that negate them or make them false?

            Are you seriously a teacher? You sound far too moronic to be one, I'm seriously starting to doubt you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not the teacher gay, you're argument is just absurd nonsense. Literally what's the point of religion to enforce morals if you just do it anyway?
            >B-but you feel bad about sinning afterward...
            Wow that excuses habitual degenerate behavior.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally what's the point of religion to enforce morals if you just do it anyway?
            What's the point of the legal system to enforce laws if people break them all the time anyways?

            See? Just because people are shit at following a law doesn't mean the law is invalid. And people break laws regardless of whether they come from God or man, so this only speaks to how shitty human beings are in general if anything.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Is the point of Christianity that you can just ask Jesus to take the sin and make it go away?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            1. No, Jesus takes away the rightful punishment that would have otherwise gone to you if you hadn't repented. But you're still a sinner, just a spared sinner.
            2. Disbelievers are clearly not less prone to breaking the law just because they don't believe that their crimes cannot be absolved.

            People are just shit all around.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >just because they don't believe that their crimes cannot be absolved.
            *just because they don't believe that their crimes can be absolved.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >takes away the rightful punishment that would have otherwise gone to you
            This really doesn't sound like justice

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's not, it's mercy.

            If God were to ennact actual justice, humanity would've been wiped out long ago. That would be true justice.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Your God seems to be lacking a perfection

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >lacking a perfection
            wat

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Oh He has justice. Trust me, you don't want to see it. And anyone who disbelieves will get it manifold in the Last Day.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >god is omnibenevolent, btw

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed, unrepentant sinners getting what they deserve in the day of Judgement is the greatest justice there can be.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's astounding how much christians are actually such nihilistic edgelords.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >What's the point of the legal system to enforce laws if people break them all the time anyways?
            Because there's an actual system in place to punish criminals and not a hypothetical threat.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't seem to be disuading a lot of people to follow the law but ok.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Answer truthfully, do you not commit crime because you're afraid of the immediate, real life legal repercussions or fear of hell?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't commit crimes because I don't want to, anon.

            It's that simple.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't commit crimes because I don't want to, anon.

            It's that simple.

            Also, why does it have to be an either/or question? Why not both?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The punishment in the legal system is also hypothetical, you can not get caught, hire a good lawyer that will prove your innocence or reduce your sentence, threaten the jury or judge, or just resort to good ol' bribery and corruption.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >>B-but you feel bad about sinning afterward...
            Philip Zimbardo's Lucifer Effect demonstrated that people are perfectly willing to go through with immoral things if they are sure they will not face consequences.

            It's humans that are the problem, not God.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The idea here is that God isn't real, so nothing bad would come out of me lying about that
            Except if my students finds the videos of my scandalous past, which I seriously didn't believe they would, even the 2nd time

            This would be entirely preventable, if I change my name. Or used an online nickname when appearing on YouTube.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The idea here is that God isn't real, so nothing bad would come out of me lying about that
            >fired from 3 schools
            It clearly did anon....
            >Except if my students finds the videos of my scandalous past, which I seriously didn't believe they would, even the 2nd time
            God bless those kids, they sound sharp as frick.
            >This would be entirely preventable, if I change my name. Or used an online nickname when appearing on YouTube.
            Should have been smarter then. I hope they spread the video to other Catholic schools to put them all on alert and make sure you're never hired in one again.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >And I would've gone away with it if it wasn't for those darn meddling kids!
            You sound like a Sooby Doo villain.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Both have a little truth but the latter has more.
    Reality tends to work in cycles, weak men create hard times, etc.
    This falls under that category. Atheism shrinks and grows, as well as Christianity, neither will die out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I just don't think (all) the causes atheism is cyclical
      like the enlightenment having happened, or the reasons we think it's silly to thinks some guy talked to an angel in a cave 1500 years ago
      divine hiddenness becoming ubiquitous, where's the miracles on video? etc

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I've talked with atheists who have admitted to me personally that if they ever way a miracle happening in front of them they'd choose to believe that they were hallucinating.

        Dawkins himself in a podcast admitted that even if God were to writte in the sky I AM GOD I EXIST HERE I AM DAWKINS, he'd just conclude that it must be a trick of an alien civilization or something like that.

        You can't really ask me to take these kind of people seriously anon, you just can't.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          okay, lol. Whatever helps you cope
          I would really start thinking seriously about religions if I ever saw a miracle

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it so important for Christians to believe atheists would not be responsive to miracles as reasons for changing their mind about Christianity?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            because christians are horrible people.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't "believe" it, they've admitted this to my face.

            because christians are horrible people.

            >horrible
            Kek

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Strawman

          I just don't think (all) the causes atheism is cyclical
          like the enlightenment having happened, or the reasons we think it's silly to thinks some guy talked to an angel in a cave 1500 years ago
          divine hiddenness becoming ubiquitous, where's the miracles on video? etc

          I hope you hold science to the same sense of cynicism that you hold religion to, as well as do a similar amount of research as to why science is also a religion and the downfalls of the science community. Maybe you already do.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism will die out because they make less babies than Christians. Also, many zoomers are tradcaths/orthodox because they are rebelling against their atheist parents.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I think Christians just pussied-out and stopped making falsifiable claims

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Christians don't exist moron.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    atheism will never die out the same way religious beliefs continue to linger, even then there seems to always be whatever personal beliefs people have regarding souls/god(s)/paranormal shit

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