Assuming you're going to use flatpaks heavily, which distro is the best, and why? Posted on May 25, 2023 by Anonymous Assuming you're going to use flatpaks heavily, which distro is the best, and why?
I think flatpaks serve more purpose in distros like Debian or ubuntu lts than on rolling releases. I use flatpaks for gayming emulators since they're updated a lot and a lot of distros, such as Debian, have very outdated versions or don't even have some of those emulators on their repos (duckstation for example)
Other than emulators and video editing, I just go with the default repos.wny850
Flatpaks have some use case in Arch. They're useful for sandboxing proprietary shit and it saves you the fuss of compiling (e.g. emulators, ungoogled-chromium) every time a new version drops. Also quite a few Flatpaks update much faster than AUR, and sometimes even faster than the main repos.
If you like walled gardens so much, just switch to MacOS.
How is that more walled than a distro repository?
If anything it's more agile, just more bloated
How are flatpaks a walled garden any more than repo packages?
Whichever distro teaches you that Flatpaks are useless because its native package manager is so much better
Silverblue and MicroOS were made for that.
What's the advantage of immutable if I'm careful enough or not mess with the system so much? But would still like the ability to do so.
0 effort system maintenance with transactional, atomic updates and rollbacks
also automatic updates on MicroOS are comfy as fuck
Is the tech already advanced or does it need more years to get stable?
I think it's solid enough as it is now and MicroOS works for me, but neither MicroOS (KDE is alpha, Gnome beta) nor Silverblue (emerging edition, whatever that means) are entirely at the proper release stage so depending on how adventurous you are you might want to wait a bit longer
MicroOS Gnome is release candidate, not beta, my bad
>MicroOS (KDE is alpha
Why though? It works perfectly well on my virtual machine
Last I heard there were issues with theming, as well as some incompatabilities with Discover. Apparently KDE is generally incomplete with immutable distros as the same issues are present on Kinoite.
Theming issues doesnt mean they should declare it "alpha". GNOME doesnt support theming in the first place. Besides, Breeze and Breeze Dark work and thats the only relevant themes if youre not a ricer.
I will keep using Ubuntu based because they just work, no cringe codec and patent laws, everything just works, hw acceleration works out of the box, patched bugs that happens on arch.
VanillaOS is an immutable based on Ubuntu
Not really, the next version is taking a long time to release because they are switching to Debian.
hilarious how many retards praise gnome garbage in that thread
also >debian over ubuntu
just fucking lol
I see no problem with preferring debian in 2023
ubuntu announced that theyre removing flatpaks and pushing more snapcancer, why wouldnt they ditch it.
Half the things Vanilla was doing was reverting garbage that Ubuntu piled on, might as well go to the source and only add what is needed
>ubuntu announced that theyre removing flatpaks
No. Its just not being installed by default. Its still in the repo and supported by things like Discover in Kubuntu.
i havent tried any immutable distro yet
damn i will never use it if this happens
maybe you can use their ABRoot on Linux Mint
VanillaOS is shit
it isolates everything (including the system) in containers, and writes it into a copy root (extremely bloated)
Silverblue and microOS uses copy-on-write filesystem with snapshoting
so if something goes wrong, you can just revert back or rebase
>Silverblue and microOS uses copy-on-write filesystem with snapshoting
Only MicroOS does.
Silverblue uses a base image with overlays (rpm-ostree), and system updates download a new image. It's more like Android
it's absolutely beyond me why VanillaOS doesn't just use btrfs snapshots or ostree
instead there's 2 separate root partitions wasting disk space so you can't keep older snapshots of the system without them taking 20GB of your storage
both ostree and btrfs snapshots address this issue yet they chose to ignore those and implement their own slower, buggier, more bloated, shittier solution
apx is awful too, it's buggy and adds unnecessary complexity over just using distrobox, which is user friendly enough for what it does
they also encourage mixing multiple different distros in containers which is just stupid, enjoy having 10 different systems to maintain I guess
Fedora Kinoite or openSUSE microOS
both are flatpak-centered
i'd recommend kinoite more tho
What if I want to use a wm in those, would I have issues?
probably yes, since the root is immutable
thus you'd need to include your setup in the base image
Red Hat, Debian, Ubuntu LTS.