Assuming there was an cheap& easy way to build & supply them in number, how useful would bicycles have been in the mediaeval era?

Assuming there was an cheap& easy way to build & supply them in number, how useful would bicycles have been in the mediaeval era?

  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    unironically would have accelerated the development of national republics by a couple hundred years

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Extremely.
    Now your army can move at cavalry speed at all times. Invaluable for long marches and supply trains.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'd have to make serious adjustments to strategies and tactics though. Riding a bike with a pole weapon and gambeson would be really shit.
      As for horse powered baggage trains...The Germans still used them a lot in WW1 and even WW2 despite and overabundance of bikes. I doubt they can function as a standin.

      flow of information, goods and manpower would exponentially increase, would probably accelerate the formation of nation-states and nationalism.

      >flow of information, goods and manpower would exponentially increase, would probably accelerate the formation of nation-states and nationalism.
      Bikes confirmed problematic.

      if you can make steel you can make a steam engine and if you can make a steam engine you can make a train. bicycles are a novelty and of no significant importance.

      >if you can make steel you can make a steam engine and if you can make a steam engine you can make a train. bicycles are a novelty and of no significant importance.
      Am I overlooking something or is this post really as stupid as it sounds? People had steel since antiquity it's obviously not a path dependent spiral into steam engines.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Riding a bike with a pole weapon and gambeson would be really shit.
        That's what the baggage train is for

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone would have one

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    flow of information, goods and manpower would exponentially increase, would probably accelerate the formation of nation-states and nationalism.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    After we bombed them back to the stone age, the North Vietnamese organized logistical support down the Ho Chi Minh Trail on bicycles.
    You can put a lot of weight on them and still get it down a badly damaged road. And all it takes is some rice and water for the slave.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      iirc the bicycle has the highest efficiency of motive force transfer of all vehicles and also has the greatest cargo to overall weight ration

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I understand that you have no read on how you sound to normies, but it's really, really obvious when you make shit up and try hard to sound smart.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >mechanical efficiency:
          https://pages.jh.edu/gazette/1999/aug3099/30pedal.html
          apologies, i'm pretty trashed right now & couldn't remember the "correct" terminology
          can't find a source for cargo-to-weight so i might have heard that a long time ago or i might have made it up, equally likely

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >apologies, i'm pretty trashed right now & couldn't remember the "correct" terminology
            So, to expand on my former point, pretending that you're a badass who drinks the beer drink is also a really transparent and obvious goofy pretense and it just stinks to high heaven to a neurotypical person.
            You need to recognize that the normal human beings in your life can see right through this shit and it's part of why they can't respect you.
            I mean it's really tone-deaf and a little insulting.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous
            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Do you need an engineer to build a bridge across that chip on your shoulder?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are the neurotypicals in the room with us right now?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >hello fellow neurotypical persons, what is going on in our personality disorder and mental illness free lives?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              you just sound like a fag ngl

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you apologizing to that retard?
            Just because anon can't use the English language beyond the middle school level doesn't mean that you have an obligation to memify everything for him.
            Let that vira-lata-retard seethe in impotence.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fights to liberate themselves from invaders trying to colonize their country
      >"you are le slave"
      american projection is the most powerful force

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing as how wheelbarrows greatly increased the mobility of Chinese commoners and armies in the late 2nd Century AD, a bike would be a godsend. However it all depends on how well you could build and maintain roads because bikes are shit on dirt tracks. They really only took off when paved asphalt roads became a thing.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Vietnamese used bikes to great effect in muddy mountains

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but they were desperate guerrillas following trails, not everyday people about their business. Its ok for them to get flat tires since the point was to move from A to Be in whatever they can.

        You need good roads for wheeled transportation to be effective and commonplace.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bikes are shit on dirt tracks
      Git gud you absolute homosexual. Though this does bring up the point that medieval metallurgy would've been utterly incapable of producing a bicycle with things required for basic bike functionality like a stiff wheel and derailleur transmission

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was thinkng that Anon was imagining basic bitch bikes (i.e. 2 wheels, a frame, gears and pedals) and not thousand dollar mountain bikes for ironman challenges.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you can make steel you can make a steam engine and if you can make a steam engine you can make a train. bicycles are a novelty and of no significant importance.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      cool, now get off the track.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not the point you autist

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's just wrong though. A train is limited to where the track can take it (which itself is no small feat to build) and to what the owner of both it and the tracks decides to do with it (usually a state or maybe some rich private owner). It's also big and easily trackable.

      Meanwhile a bicycle can be owned by anyone, even a peasant, and it immensely increases a person's mobility. They can now travel wherever they want and whenever they want needing nothing other than the strength of their legs. A decently fit person should be able to get across any European nation in no more than +/- a week. It gives unprecedented freedom to an individual person, but as pointed out earlier, it would also be a blessing to smaller scale industry/agriculture and even possibly to the army

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Extremely useful militarily, since mounted infantry was quite common.

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