>As he navigated criticism and abuse from some of the most powerful people in Hollywood, a past that snapped at his heels, and a society dead set on forcing him into a binary, Elliot often stayed silent, unsure of what to do, until enough was enough. Full of behind the scenes details and intimate interrogations on sex, love, trauma, and Hollywood, Pageboy is the story of a life pushed to the brink. But at its core, this beautifully written, winding journey of what it means to untangle ourselves from the expectations of others is an ode to stepping into who we truly are with defiance, strength, and joy.
Elliotbros...
Notice how trannies, whether they’re pretending to be women or men, always try to become caricatures of their target gender? Trannies who pretend to be women: bright hair colors, kitschy make- up, slutty dresses, high heels, overly sexual demeanor. Trannies who pretend to be men: stereotypically masculine clothes, “I’m le heckin dudebro” vibe, tattoos, etc. It’s all so theatrical and bizarre.
Gender is an affectation that is normally practiced and honed over decades
There is that, but Gender also has code markers deliberately designed to trip imitators up. Gender also operates as an age marker: boys fail to gender themselves as men.
The "naturalness" of unacted action is a difficult one for people to get.
>The "naturalness" of unacted action
You've never worked in a factory with lesbian foremen.
Two were technicians. One I don't know what. Maybe a production lead, which is kind of like a foreman, but not quite One went for the full stickadicktome - I don't know what she did either, something in the office area. Maybe purchasing. You are right. None of them were foremen. Please, elaborate. I do not get your point.
Lesbians in Gen X and Boomers have gender non-conforming traits. This is back when Queer meant the avoidance of stereotypical behaviour like "3rd positionism" etc. Women's workplace aggression involves a lot of the behaviour that the butch fuckwit left in your picture displays. I've seen shirtfronting.
The fact that your picture involves a subtle middle-class troll makes it worse. Why the fuck would I want to defend either of these office tarts given they're the HR shites who tried to sack me tomboy xer mate.
Gender non-conformance is a lot more complex than university educated 2kzoomzooms pretend. Roles and assignments have a great deal of concrete fluidity (ha ha get it), and the reality is that communities of people have long recognised the village idiot of the girl with the dickeydiedoe as special members of the community on provisional terms. "YOU DON'T TOUCH HIM, HE'S OUR FUCKEN POOFTER," etc. New industrial cities and enclosure may have eroded some of these peasant and agricultural proletarian conducts, but they reemerge in communities of long standing.
Posting imagery of middle class HR cunts displaying over acted gender presentations and leveraging feminity's exposure to violence for sympathy is bullshit liberal idealism.
are you perchance a gen x lesbian marxist
anyways I've never seen any woman who passably seemed like a man
Nah. I'm late gen x, all my "aunties" who waved their tits in my face while feeling each other's bums up were LUGs / LUDs early gen xer. Also they were bourgeois liberal progressives, couldn't tell oppression from exploitation if you forced them to produce widgets for wages.
I've just been watching closely pre-Y dykes on the factory floor.
>anyways I've never seen any woman who passably seemed like a man
Ask any dyke over 45 "Where have all the good butches gone?" and wait for squadron 617 to moisten her Ruhr valley.
you people are ontologically retarded
Hey, I may be retarded but I actually know what ontology is.
>Why are you accepting a bourgeois writers theory?
I've tested it with comrades, and it provides a manner of communicating a substantive aspect of struggle outside of that struggle. Also he laid track in British minge.
ok, then you just know that you are retarded I guess. But It's good that understanding such a basic concept makes you feel proud apparently.
You don't appear to understand how to read, however, as you didn't get the obvious comparative that I do understand ontology. What is the unspoken negative of my being able to comprehend what ontology is? Have a think about the unstated inversion for a moment. Sadly though, you lack the capacity.
>What is the unspoken negative of my being able to comprehend what ontology is?
you seem to not understand how to read, or maybe you are just severely autistic. what on earth does you knowing what ontology means have anything to do with the phrase "you are ontologically retarded"?
It would require you to comprehend what ontology is mate. Which you don't due to your misuse of the word. You can't be a half virgin, son. Binary values are neither advanced nor restricted. Correspondingly qualities lack retardation, only processes or magnitudes possess it.
>Correspondingly qualities lack retardation, only processes or magnitudes possess it.
But your inherent quality is retardation, so that's not true I guess.
>retardation
Learn what this word means. The OED2 is free to steal online due to a sloppy library.
my man, what on earth does the phrase "you are ontologically retarded" have anything to do with these responses that you are randomly pulling out of your ass like an algorithm?
Anyway, I didn't think you were legitimately retarded but now I know for a fact that you are autistic. maybe you just aren't aware, but retarded progs used to call people "ontologically evil"
So, I am effectively telling you that you are beyond retarded but your autism forces you to try and construct a gotcha moment out of nothing. Have fun, I certainly did
Being is a quality, a state, not a spectrum, nor a process of becoming. It lacks the potential for retardation.
Please do continue to demonstrate that you are functionally illiterate.
The concept of being encompasses in itself the processes and the "becoming" which that being will live, when I talk about you I'm referring to what you've been and what you'll become. I can say you were ontologically condamned to have a retardation in your development
Both people in that image are trans
Incorrect, but nice projection homosexual.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/07/alt-right-used-trans-womans-picture-tear-twitter-lifted/
I'll play devil advocate here, what about people who transition before puberty? I don't care if you think it shouldn't happen, or it never happens, or whatever, let's just assume a boy started blocking puberty as soon as 8 years old, and started slowly transitioning at 10 years old. Would you say a woman will result from that?
gender is synonymous with sex
gender has always been synonymous with sex.
the reason why it was used is because the word "sex" became associated with fornication.
gueer theorists making up a strawman of a word only to deconstruct it does not change anything
Incorrect. Gender (a grifted term invented by a sadistic psychopath and meant to sever the sexes) has always been a naturally occurring biological process. In a vacuum, men will almost always assume the roles and responsibilities of men, and women likewise for women based upon the physical realities of their development. It’s only in our deconstructive, modern cultural decadence that we try so hard to categorize everything into meticulous boxes, subverting, and unwittingly destroying things that are self-evident processes of nature.
Playing 20 questions and debating over a platter of word salad isn’t going to change the fact that ALL trannies are running away from reality in the same exact way a shut in will hide in his mom’s basement. The justifications made for their unnatural lifestyle are no different than anybody else trying to justify a self-destructive vice or negative life choice. Men will never be women. Women will never be men. Anything else is an extremely unhealthy coping mechanism for psychological trauma. This is obvious to everyone viewing the situation from the outside, even if they play along with the delusions.
For one to realize the truth, to seek true self confidence and contentment in life, it is incumbent upon you to dispense with any illusions you have about reality and to engage with the world with complete honesty.
You will never be a woman.
You sound gay
I may ‘sound gay’ to you, but see from your reply, I can actually tell that you’re a seething homosexual with nothing else to say.
I have to say that you are gay and sound gay.
This person sounds not gay but homosexual. There's a difference.
It's funny that even the homosexual is a victim of trans ideology. Imagine a butch lesbian who is targeted as "male" before she can come to terms with herself and her homosexual tendencies, and is given unalterable sex hormones and a mastectomy. Or the homosexual male with bottom/catamite tendencies having his penis removed for the sake of a faux-vagina-wound. Crazy times.
Tranny
Yeah I have told them I’m a leftist who doesn’t believe gender is real and that it seems trannies are just trying to reinforce negative gender stereotypes. Men can wear skirts and they’re still men, women can wear suits and they’re still women. Kids can play with whatever toys, it does not matter. The seethe when I call them out for it is unreal
And now you do the TERF punch line: but sex is real and society has an oppressive economic function of exploitation through the sexed family as the reproducer of labour.
I know your type hon.
You caught me. Except I want to live in the 1800’s in Britain, I don’t care about feminism at all. I just want a baby and husband who isn’t watching degenerate porn
People who actually believe in queer politics don't talk like you do. You should read Engels on Family, Private Property and the State—the bourgeoisie practice a community of women even though they preach private property.
Not something I’d usually read, thanks
nevermind. On second thought I'm not going to read that commie trash
Hey why are you pretending to be me. Kys
stfu shit-stirrer
>commie
>troon
lol
Engels is more about why people form families and why they make genders the way they do. Hysteric public transsexuality is either about failed stars like Elliot; or, about not getting bashed in the public meat market when they find she's got a burrito not a taco. Which honestly isn't going to work. Men's sexual violence doesn't care what's in your underwear, it is about universally suborning women through physical and sexual violence. Rape isn't *fun*. It is about important stuff like keeping women in their place.
fucksake son, read more about human sexuality and its social uses. After you've finished with Engels try Male Fantasies Kinsey and Foucault.
Sex is about violence.
Which, as we know from dialectics, means that war is about…
>Rape isn't *fun*
Don't knock it till you've tried it
I've tried it twice, I enjoyed it neither time. My advice to you is to kick her out of the house before she forces herself on you in breakup vengeance.
Given we can define rape as 'sex with a younger woman, a woman who earns less than you, or any woman who has had a drink or smoked some pot' I have raped dozens of chicks and had a great time.
I like coming right in the pussy
Not exactly reinforcing family private property and the state are you? Why on earth would you accept a bourgeois court's definition of something as substantive.
Why are you accepting a bourgeois writers theory?
Engels was a retard who thought a slave was better than a modern worker because he was a thing and not a free agent in the struggle for existence. And his made-up theory on the origin of the family is pure nonsense, but then again, that's historical materialism for you.
Engles doesn’t agree with any of your gay bullshit and you misunderstood the book.
Dude, it's ok if Eliot is more manly than you. It's a spectrum.
she's manly in the same way a boy that found his dads cologne is manly
He's not gossiping online like a soccer mom though, is he? Maybe you should try some cologne.
it's the chain necklace that gets me
Whatchu mean esse holmes? Chu know all us men wear wifebeaters and chains broo
Elliot trying to look like a rebellious teenager from a 50's movie.
>Elliot trying to look like a rebellious teenager from a 50's movie.
Just fucking say "The Fonz." Except you don't know who that is, do you?
fonzie is clearly not a teenager
The Fonz first appeared in 1974 you little dope.
I think you wanted to say James Dean but then your brain got all fried and you puked over your keys.
Yes, and MASH was filmed in the 1970s and 1980s despite the Korean War having begun in the 1950s.
How stupid are you?
The Fonz is a character based on those rebellious teenager archetypes from the 50's.
>The Fonz is a character based on those rebellious teenager archetypes from the 50's.
FOR RESTATING MY ORIGINAL POINT CHEERS CUNT
Have you ever considered the idea that transgenderism isn't part of ideology, but the beauty industry?
It's both.
True, but it's also very strange how it exploits both the leftist idea of equality and the capitalist idea of plastic surgery, where you have to pay money in order to be beautiful
It's not strange at all. The vast majority of leftism nowadays is just a validation for the consequences of capitalist society. Demographics are declining and immigration is becoming necessary? Then we must celebrate diversity and representation in capitalist countries. Family structures are collapsing? Then we must celebrate homosexuality. Bodies are increasingly commodified and sexuality has become an object of worship? Then we must support gender fluidity and on-demand plastic surgery. People can no longer afford their livelihoods with their wages? Then we must support "sex work" and Internet prostitution. This is what leftism is, this is what it has been since the 60s. It's not radical or revolutionary, it's used for reinforcement of the same system they bitch and whine about all day.
Nah, it's mainly ideological. economics doesn't exist in a vacuum. Most people don't even end up looking beautiful afterwards, then again, it is mainly their own autistic version of beauty that they strive for.
I think this is just like Edward Bernays' 'Torches for Freedom', where ideology is just used to make a buck
I think you are chasing the tail and ignoring the dog. The ideology was there prior to some guys coming to you and saying that they can make your dreams come true.
Ideology is some guys saying they can make your dreams come true
No? It's a belief system integral to human behavior.
nvm, I guess it's similar. There's just this retarded idea to some people that corporations create ideologies to make money. as if the people staffing them are complete see-money-get-erection automatons and not flesh and blood people who have views and opinions
Sure, but they certainly do use ideologies to their advantage, and usually the most popular ones
Yeah, they don't actually have that much meaningful influence aside from placating demand. It's all vile progressive ideologues in the end.
you literally just described what bernays did you fucking retard. kill yourself.
Transitioning as a minor, which is pushed now more than ever, requires only one surgery.
Also, the tranny faction winning now is the one that believes that HRT + surgeries are transphobic and optional.
Plastic surgery seldom requires one surgery. This is artificial stuff, so you need to constantly make them have more surgeries, so that they'll keep on 'being themselves'
It's a fetish bro. Always has been.
Literally every MtF bimbo in dumb go-go boots and bad wigs has had their sexuality ruined by unrestrained coomerism or having been diddled as kids.
Haha imagine clapping their asses haha
I'd rather not considering how fucking awful looking 99.9% of them are
How does Elliot Page cope with being a 5'1" turbo manlet?
He's got a pretty hard dose of small man syndrome doesn't he?
Like this.
By drowning herself in unending sadness? She might fake the smile but the eyes give it all away.
>Yes, I'd like to be a 48 year old short single gay man.
bump
getting pounded every which way
FtM trannies have absolutely no idea that height is important in males. Only after transitioning does reality teach them what it means to be [seen as] a man
>untangle ourselves from the expectations of others
See, that's the problem. We SHOULD be mindful of how we are perceived by others. This whole trans thing is obviously a product of narcissism and a vast lack of self-awareness.
>a society dead set on forcing him into a binary
No ones forcing it into anything and it is desperately overestimating how much people give a shit. It is an irritant at most and an 'actor' that hasn't worked in ages - then again, you could consider the entire concept of transexuality to be a sort of performance art in itself. Must be tiring to have to act so much in that case.
It's wild that that crowd went from "it's ok to do things outside gender norms" to "you do things outside of gender norms you must be trans and you need to commit fully to those new gender norms"
Did she get HARVested?
>go from being hot, talented young woman starring in massive blockbusters
>to ugly manlet doing supporting roles for D-tier Netflix serials
It's so sad. Most women are able to get past & cope with being sexualized at least some of the time, because it comes with being a woman especially an attractive one, but Page seems to have gone for the trendy solution.
I think so.
she was so cute
It doesn't come out for like 3 more months.
>It doesn't come out for like 3 more months.
I'm pretty sure Elliot Page came out a number of years ago.
It's my belief that Ellen/Elliot Page was actually born a boy and was put on hormones blockers/etc. at an early age by his disgusting satanic show-business parents. It's straight up child abuse.
Also this makes me question Christopher Nolan for casting her in Inception.
>Also this makes me question Christopher Nolan for casting her in Inception.
It means you're gay. Deal with it.
BWAHHH
cope
with the fact that the truth is out about the straight up illegal actions of parents in Hollywood who have been putting their children on Hormone blockers at a young age.
F U C K I N G
P O O N E R
I used to have such a crush on her, bros.
i would NOT fuck with that guy
Is this the most high level case of an actress going insane after hitting the wall and not getting any more calls? Usually they just try to destroy some random man's career they had a drunken hookup with in 1995.
i fucking hate this piece of shit. i'm not transphobic - it's not that. it's that women in canada literally think they're men. it's that it wasn't good enough being rich and famous for this fucking mentally ill white canadian bitch. she wanted to be a man, because people in canada worship men, everybody's fucking gay. the women are men, and the men are all gay. that's what i hate about this fucking white canadian bitch.
Is it worth reading?
i bet elliot gets so much pussy
actually, maybe he doesnt
Remember.
Ellen page stated that the reason she became a he is to be “a role model for kids everywhere”
It’s all about ego. It’s about being worshipped and seen as heroic. It’s just more Hollywood attention seeking.
Elliot page wants there to be a movie based on her life made in about 20 years.
About the “struggle” she is going through
Good cover design imo.
Shit taste
>He
i dont know what youre fucking saying
i dont know what anyone is fucking saying
i fucking hate my life and i dont owe anyone anything