As an ex-chaser I'm not liking the effects of estrogen on my sexuality at all you guys, I'm fantasizing about being fucked the same way I fucked trans girls and also sucking dick. It's extremely degrading for me, a natural top, to become a slutty bottom.
I just want to be a transbian, help.
congrats post feet sexy lady
congrats for what? dummy
it takes some time for you to discover stuff for yourself okay, you don't need to be mean.
using other people as objects to discover your identity isnt though
Congratulations on freeing yourself. Watch the matrix again lol
thanks...
I guess I could watch it again, has been so long
many such cases!
meta-meta attracted agamps will be hunted for sport.
how can i tell if the man im dating is trans, i half feel it :/
E doesn't change your sexuality. You stopped repressing your natural urges. Also you can switch back and forth at any time.
>E doesn't change your sexuality.
I beg to differ
>Also you can switch back and forth at any time.
But how can I top a guy with a estrogenized dick, this is so over...
I literally had casual sex, we had fun, we went on to your lives after we did it. There's literally nothing wrong with that.
>But how can I top a guy with a estrogenized dick, this is so over...
as a chaser who tried estrogen this is why I stopped the estrogen
>E doesn't change your sexuality.
literal studies disagree with you
Post 'em
he didn't!
do you get the tummy feeling now?
maybe, explain how it is for you
yes, that's kinda hot for me as well
jusst because it is hot doesn't mean that I like it!
no, u
it's weird for me as well to have intimacy with a guy....
>maybe, explain how it is for you
it's kinda like the feeling you get on a roller coaster, or when the car you're in goes over a bump
it's sort of tingly, this warm feeling of longing that starts in your lower tummy and usually fills up sometimes shooting up into your chest. And then if you're getting it strong, it'll go all the way to your face and make you blush in a distinctive way, and your eyes might start filling with tears from how intense it is, and your limbs get all tingly and the hair stands up.
And you're probably going to feel something like that when you think about a man pushing you up against a wall and looking into your eyes intently and greedily like he wants to devour you, and then moving his face closer and you feel his warm breath and the stubble on his skin and he grips your hand hard against the wall and grabs your waist and suddenly you're kissing and can taste his lips and tongue and his body is pressed against yours and all you can smell or feel or think is just him and his body, and every fiber of your body is screaming out for him. And you hope maybe when his lips leave yours he might hold you gently but firmly by the hair and guide you to your knees and you'll be able to smell his body in a different way, and your mouth is watering just thinking about it
And you've never done this before, but you know that the sort of feeling you get from thinking about these things is just a tiny glimpse of what it feels like to actually do it, and how impossible it is to resist those feelings when it's a real man doing this to you.
Yes, I think I do feel something similar when I orgasm and imagine stuff. It's so different from when I was in testosterone. You feel it a lot more with your whole body.
>And you're probably going to feel something like that when you think about a man pushing you up against a wall and looking into your eyes intently and greedily like he wants to devour you, and then moving his face closer and you feel his warm breath and the stubble on his skin and he grips your hand hard against the wall and grabs your waist and suddenly you're kissing and can taste his lips and tongue and his body is pressed against yours and all you can smell or feel or think is just him and his body, and every fiber of your body is screaming out for him. And you hope maybe when his lips leave yours he might hold you gently but firmly by the hair and guide you to your knees and you'll be able to smell his body in a different way, and your mouth is watering just thinking about it
Why do you have to get in so much detail? Ugh, I don't want this!
Oh no, is it going to get worse?
>Ugh, I don't want this!
yeah you do
and it'll get worse with just more time on E probably, and then much worse on prog
but how do I even stop seeing bottoming as something that inferior people do? when I was topping I felt superior, I was the one penetrating, I was the one overpowering... the idea of letting a guy using me is way too hard to rationalize
>but how do I even stop seeing bottoming as something that inferior people do?
you dont
theres nothing wrong with being subordinate to your man
>Oh no, is it going to get worse?
ymmv but im so feverish rn haha just thinking about my bf and how much I want to shower him with love and how much I want him to
maybe this isn't an unusual thing for us women to desire, but still...
but most girls were born for that role! I wasn't, I was the one in charge. I felt the rush of power that comes for being the strong as opposed to the weak!
the fact that I might be the one being the subordinate. that I might have my body used like a toy. he might grope my boobs and pinch my nipples. be all over my estrogenized body. then I might be pounded, I might start moaning... literally everything I made these trans girls go through might be happening to me as if it's some twisted payback
this is just too much! i'm frustrated.
strong dominant people dont need exclamation marks to make their point dummy
>lust
that sounds brutish
love and adoration over lust
>strong dominant people dont need exclamation marks to make their point dummy
I always used them even before transitioning though.
>that sounds brutish
Because I'm talking more about sex here. If it was just the romance I wouldn't have to much trouble imagining myself with a guy.
sex mustnt be about pure lust from both sides
its okay you think this given youre
>not that long on hrt
just be enticing and playful, let him do the lusting and follow his lead
>the fact that I might be the one being the subordinate. that I might have my body used like a toy. he might grope my boobs and pinch my nipples. be all over my estrogenized body. then I might be pounded, I might start moaning... literally everything I made these trans girls go through might be happening to me as if it's some twisted payback
I bet you'd love to watch yourself get fucked in a mirror
no way, I would close my eyes...
you wouldn't be able to resist checking what you look like
you'd open your eyes and see some cockdrunk drooling tranny getting her brains fucked out
What's the point of even bringing that up if you know that it would turn me on? You know I would look at me. Jerk.
Just know that it's never happening irl ever.
The very least I could do in that situation would be trying my best to not do any of the funny faces bottoms do when they are being railed and orgasming. Trying to keep my composure.
You're absolutely right anon, this is the positive mindset I need.
None of this submiting or dominating bullshit. Might I can find a nice, gentle guy that makes me feel like we are both equals. That wouldn't hurt my ego too much.
Thank you!
i never said anything about being equals dummy haha
You have an outdated view, men and women are equals these days. I just have to get into that mentality.
Yeah, it kinda sucks, I miss being easily hard. But I have to do it because I have dysphoria.
youve drunk the koolaid too much anon
women and men cant be equal in the sense that both have different roles
the perfect woman has barely anything to do with the perfect man
>The very least I could do in that situation would be trying my best to not do any of the funny faces bottoms do when they are being railed and orgasming. Trying to keep my composure.
you can't beat the cock, you know that right?
>you can't beat the cock, you know that right?
does it feel that good I wonder... maybe I would feel that it's overrated if I tried it
nobody beats the cock
you think you can, but you're just going to end up a little twitching puddle on the floor
nta but I want this comment might push me over the edge to being trans jesus fuck that's hot
that's enough to push you over the edge?
I think a mirrored ceiling is better actually, so you can lay in bed while watching your man on top of you
Mirrored ceiling I can hide by kissing his face though, I don’t have to look
Giwtwm wtf
Lol cute congrats on becoming a bitch
Evil
Getting splash damage from this wtf
No they’re not, you’re submitting to him by getting railed
>Lol cute congrats on becoming a bitch
You don't have to put it so blatantly... but thanks I guess
>No they’re not, you’re submitting to him by getting railed
I know it kinda feels like and that's what I always thought about this, but I can change. If this slow sex holding hands then maybe it won't be so bad.
Gender roles are a social construction anon. I can be a proud and strong woman if I try to. That's the best way of beating the shame.
You’re submitting even more if you have slow hands holding sex, that’s like the most submissive thing you can do
I think I would actually cry and blush super bad
>I think I would actually cry and blush super bad
and just imagine knowing what it sounds like when you cum from his dick
You’re being so mean rn wtf I’m getting that stupid stomach warmth thing
imagine him tying you up and blindfolding you, and putting headphones in your ears for you to listen to what you sound like while getting fucked
and then he starts fucking you until you can't tell the difference between your own moans and the recording
Evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil
Fuck you i didn’t whimper and rub my thighs together I don’t feel all warm and fuzzy
that's right there's no way you'd do something like that
you totally hate the idea of being forced to come to terms with how much you love getting dick
Stop making me blush >:(
you need a bf to make you beg for it, instead of pretending like you're all embarrassed about how much you like having your butt filled
>bf to make you beg for it
I wouldn’t humiliate myself like that I think I have some composure at least
Also it is embarrassing to be a bottom like I’m ending my family name with me
oh please, as if you would not beg after the kissing, groping, maybe a bit of play wrestling foreplay
and when he pins you down naked with his cock rubbing against your hole and whispers in your ear to beg for it, you wouldn't beg?
I think it's more likely you'd say something like "pleaseplaesepleaspleaesyesyesfuckmepelase", and maybe some pathetic whimpering
unless he notices what you're doing and makes you watch
> whispers in your ear to beg for it, you wouldn't beg?
Um maybe a little just like a bit
> unless he notices what you're doing and makes you watch
That would be really mean, I don’t think I would be able to keep my eyes open
I bet if he told you to keep your eyes open you'd obey
Why does this make me blush and feel all warm and fuzzy and rub my thighs together, this isn’t fair :~~*((
because it's true
you're a good girl, you'd do what he tells you
I’m a good girl and I do what he tells me 🙁
don't frown, that's a good thing
I feel like a submissive bitch 🙁
ok but you are a submissive bitch
Yeah I guess I am now
this is stupid
hearing your mans growling, moaning and breathing is whats hot, not your own moans
I created this thread for advice so I can cope with it, not for you people to tease me! geez.
I'm leaving, I have to make dinner.
>!
it's so over . . .
>I'm leaving, I have to make dinner.
like a proper wife
cya!
>I'm leaving, I have to make dinner.
good girl, i'm sure you'll be back afterwards
Enjoy dinner, making dinner for your man makes you a good submissive house wife btw
>Gender roles are a social construction anon. I can be a proud and strong woman if I try to. That's the best way of beating the shame.
it will be so cute when you utter those same sentences to your man
he'll give you a wide smirk and a haughty reply as he resumes PLAP PLAP-ing you.
>Getting splash damage from this wtf
I bet you'd love it if he recorded you having sex and then made you listen to all your stupid noises afterwards
I become obsessed with steamy kissing on estrogen. Also being cummed in. My sexual tastes became more vanilla.
sounds like your problem is that you do like the changes
Baka
I'm scared of sex and intimacy but I really want to have sex with a man. Like really bad.
Wait until you start progesterone.
The only thing you'll be able to think about is being overpowered by your beloved man.
The eternal circle.
> Chasers becoming trannies endlessly
Oh, I see, what if this is just because I'm not that long on hrt (a bit over a year)? Like, my body didn't adapt fully yet. You are saying I might lust even more for guys, but what if it's the other way around and my sexuality goes back to normal?
As a repressed chaser would it actually be with it for me to just bite the bullet and troon out? Is T4T worth ruining my life? (my life already sucks but it's the devil you know and what not)
>would it actually be with it for me to just bite the bullet and troon out?
yes
only if you have dysphoria dummy
>only if you have dysphoria dummy
I think I might but I've never really been sure
you have to really reflect about it. don't do it just because you find it hot or something like that.
I have a strong (very strong) desire to be rid of my secondary sex characteristics and a desire for the secondary sex characteristics of the opposite gender
These definitions are so broad i hate them. Fantasizing once in a while shouldn't be a reason to go all the way
fantasizing once in a while isn't the same as having a strong desire for opposite sex characteristics
there's a difference between occasionally masturbating in women's underwear and consistently wanting boobs. Men don't want to be women.
What if its almost every day?
if you consistently want to have a woman's body, you're trans
you should check out bambi sleep