>Argentina, a latin american country, receives european immigrants at the turn of the 20th century, they are at most 30% of the population and a bit more than 40% in Buenos Aires (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Argentina#Features_of_immigration)
>most of the immigrants are horny men and they marry the local brown women (https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/how-argentina-became-white)
>case in point: italian immigrants were a bit less than half of all the immigrants (so at most 15% of the total population) yet nowadays roughly 60% of argetinians have some italian ancestry, which mean a LOT of racemixing happened (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Argentines)
>despite this, the government in the early 20th century does a census where they count everyone with at least 1 european migrant ancestor as "white", so that 85% of the population is "white" (another proof of the huge amount of racemixing that ensued) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Latin_Americans#Argentina)
>every single genetic study shows argentina as a mestizo nation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentines_of_European_descent#Genetic_research)
>link related, modern argentinians https://www.telam.com.ar/notas/202212/613719-hinchas-festejos-argentina-triunfo-semifinales-qatar.html
You make this thread every other week.
You fat spic get the complexes out of your greasy pig's head.
SEETHING
$100 for the day. No lonsh. Ok mai frrrend?
Keeping up the good fight but Argentina is unfortunately white and what's more is that people think whites are native to the land
Javier Porteñoli el engreído de mierda a llegado al hilo.
Tloloquispiluchtli el indio resentido ha creado el hilo.
more like Nautuelmapuhuén
Imagine in 20 years people making "California was never a White state" threads.
Argentina was a White country with feet of clay, because unlike Australia or New Zeland, islands with small populations of savage natives, it was created by about 5 million European immigrants moving to a place that had like 1.5 million mestizos, and which bordered other mestizo and native countries.
So once the Europeans became middle class and lowered their birth rate to first world levels, they were doomed, like wheat surrounded by easily growing weeds.
What the USA and Europe are going through now, is what Argentina experienced in the late XXth century, because they were in the weakest least stable position.
The European immigrants who moved to Argentina bet on the wrong horse, as simple as that.
>mix with brown women
>why my grandkids brown? ah mama mia
Despite their incessant whining about race mixing white boys seem to have a hard time keeping their dicks in their pants.
yeah, we can't stop breeding your women, we're shameful hypocrites I'm afraid, nice quints btw
Czech em
no, read the OP
there is undeniable proof that California was a +90% white state, while argentina topped at 30%
your OP is shit.
you have no arguments lmao
You do not deserve them.
Maths don't add
In 1860 Argentina had a smaller population than Chile, like 1.6 millions vs 1.8 millions
50 years later Argentina had 3 times the population of Chile, a proportion that is pretty much still kept (16 millions vs 46 millions)
And you are misreading some data, In Argentina a 1/3 of the population was foreign born in the early 1900s, until more or less the 1929 wall street crash when immigration slowed down, but many of the non foreign born people were the sons and daughters of foreign born people. The proportion of foreign born (european) population was very high non stop for more than half a century, more than 10% in 1870 and 25% in the late 1800s.
Immigration wasn't a one time event, a quarter of the population was foreign born for half a century
Non Europeans were a rarity in Buenos Aires until the 1940s, when internal migrations brought people from places like Santiago del Estero or Tucuman, because of peronist industrialization
Immigrant comes in 1880s, has daughter in Argentina, she marries another freshly arrived immgirant in 1910, you are treating immigration as a one time event and not a yearly process that lasts decades
LMAO fucking liar, OP already fucked you over over that point. male immigrants married local (brown) women
>Non Europeans were a rarity in Buenos Aires until the 1940s,
look at this retard conceding more and more points. i thought argentina was browned in the 90s? but now it's the 40s? and they came from within the country?
>In 1860 Argentina had a smaller population than Chile, like 1.6 millions vs 1.8 millions
and 160k of them were white back then
>50 years later Argentina had 3 times the population of Chile
do you seriously think there was no race mixing? that the european somehow massively outbred the mestizos?
>The proportion of foreign born (european) population was very high non stop for more than half a century, more than 10% in 1870 and 25% in the late 1800s.
true, the real nunber of whites must have been more than 30%, but there is no way they were 85%, not even close
they got that number by counting the mutts
>Non Europeans were a rarity in Buenos Aires until the 1940s
proof? also Buenos Aires isn't argentina
>when internal migrations brought people from places like Santiago del Estero or Tucuman
so the rest of the country was non white?
ok, so whites were more than 30%
I still doubt they were ever the majority, and there is NO WAY there wasn't massive amounts of racemixing, just look at modern genetic studies and the fact that over 60% of argentinians have at least partial italian ancestry, and look at modern argentinians
the immigration from neighbor countries has never been more than 5% of the population, so it couldn't have had a significant impact on the phenotype or genotype of argentinians, unlike the european immigration, so the "we were white until the boliguayos came" stuff is bullshit
tbf, it's sheltered porteños retroactively applying the decay of their city in the last few years to all of argentine history. people in the interior are a lot more sane, some feel more kinship with paraguayans than with porteños (and no they're not immigrants, that's porteño projection)
all census, all research and data even from abroad, those of the USA. etc. everything is false.
It is even said that Argentina is lactose intolerant, which is a lie, everything edible has lactose. maps and data lie.
Argentina was very white otherwise it could never become the richest in the world for a year. and declining as blancucks became more supportive and egalitarian with non-whites. until Peron multiplied the non-whites so that they would give them their vote. then the Kirchners did it in 2001. Today we could say that Argentina is the same as another Latin country.
It was race impersonation. a machinery that enslaves the white and multiplies the non-white. and adding the crimes that these non-whites commit.
I mean as far anecdotes get people are lactose tolerant enough that when I went to the province on vacation with my sister and her family they didn't have de-lactosed milk anywhere but in the big chain store at the center of town. Only whole milk.
And this wasn't even in Santa Fe.
It was deep into the country.
>Argentina was very white otherwise it could never become the richest in the world for a year.
and that's why it didn't. argentina was never the richest country in the world. and it didn't peak when white population was at its highest either, it peaked in the 30s-60s, when this peron you so loathe flooded buenos aires with cabecitas negras from... argentina.
The country unequivocally peaked just before ww1. The decline was just reversible until the 1950s.
how's a feudal economy considered a "peak"? how's being a British colony in all btu name considered a "peak"? how's being a dictatorship where every governor is appointed by hand to defend the interests of a few rich guys a "peak"? because the government built up a shiny French-style buenos aires with the disposable italians they got? while the city was surrounded by slums? nice of you to mention ww1 aka the one event that proves how much of a lie the argentina superpower conservative republic myth is: britain stops importing argentine meat and argentina halts completely
>how's a feudal economy considered a "peak"?
How is an unsustainable welfare state considered peak instead?
At least Argentina had hope in the 1910s. Some sort of prospects. By the 50s that was down the drain and there was only pain and Peron.
>how's being a dictatorship where every governor is appointed by hand to defend the interests of a few rich guys a "peak"?
Instead of the same thing but with Peron tearing everything down and putting his face in the ruins, which is, of course, the peak of this shithole.
>because the government built up a shiny French-style buenos aires with the disposable italians they got?
At least there was something there.
>while the city was surrounded by slums?
Unlike today or the 60s where the slums have a YPF now. 🙂
>nice of you to mention ww1 aka the one event that proves how much of a lie the argentina superpower conservative republic myth is: Britain stops importing Argentine meat and Argentina halts completely
Buddy, I never said Argentina was a superpower in 1911. But at least it had fucking prospects. There was something there. By the 1960s the only thing left was a gigantic pile of shit and a sign with Peron's face in it. You have to give it to the guy, Peron mind broke the entire country so hard that absolutely everyone in it is a Peronist of some sort.
>argentina peaked in the period where it destroyed its homegrown industry to become an exporter of wool and wheat?
Yes. I never specified it was a very high peak.
>argentina's peak is taking lands from people and giving them to oligarchs to further their monopolies? by lead btw, genocide to create fiefdoms in the victorian era lmao.
As of yet, yes. Mexico's peak, for example, was a one-party state that regularly used paramilitaries to massacre students in cold blood. At least as of right now.
Cont.
well lol that's depressing then.
by the way, fyi, mexico's peak ended because of those massacres. mexico's peak was 30s (more so 40s) - 60s, when it industrialised
I know.
The post-war boom did a lot of good for the region.
Very few invested wisely though. All got wasted on unsustainable welfare states.
I'm pretty sure you are just a U.Sian who believes himself more informed than he actually is lol.
To add, Mexico was still massacring people in the 50s it just wasn't an international scandal. Lmao
mexico managed its economy just fine even considering the rampant corruption building up since the govt of miguel de la madrid. it all went to hell with that populist echeverría, in the 70s
it would be easy for me to blame america for our problems, since echeverría (as well as his predecessor and successor) was a cia plant but honestly it was homegrown.
i know that, but it's whatever. argentina was bombing its capital in the 50s and some still yearn for it
>f miguel de la madrid
i meant miguel aleman shit
> Argentina was bombing its capital in the 50s and some still yearn for it
My grandfather was there funnily enough.
UN SEGUNDO:
ES UN MEXICANO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
El occidente a caído, la civilización collapso, millones han de morir.
no te espantes santi, es cualquier cosa
contéstame una duda, ¿sabes cómo fue la industrialización en argentina? tengo entendido que comenzó de manera acelerada a partir de 1916 hasta los 60s/70s, pero al menos aquí en méxico creo que se vio facilitada debido a la "dictadura perfecta". ¿cómo fue allá con tanto cambio de gobierno?
>some
>all
reading comprehension
>argentina was bombing its capital in the 50s and some still yearn for it
>he thinks all argentinians are peronistas
Typical mexican mindset
argentina peaked in the period where it destroyed its homegrown industry to become an exporter of wool and wheat? argentina's peak is taking lands from people and giving them to oligarchs to further their monopolies? by lead btw, genocide to create fiefdoms in the victorian era lmao. that's argentina's peak? you know those developments are nothing unique to argentina? the same myths are said in any latin american country from the time, and in all of them the reality was it was just another banana republic with good taste in architecture. you're just a dumbass that thinks your italian nonno built up argentina by himself only for it to be destroyed by others. you know socialism was broght to argentina by them? and fascism (peronism)? and trade unions, too. of course neither italians or bolivians are at fault of argentina's decline, it's your retarded leaders that know nothing about economy
> The same myths are said in any Latin American country from the time,
I know. Many countries from the time had some prospects for further development. Got squandered, unfortunately. Guess what one has to do is vote SOBERANÍA man for the 26# time.
>you're just a dumbass that thinks your italian nonno built up argentina by himself only for it to be destroyed by others. you know socialism was broght to argentina by them? and fascism (peronism)? and trade unions, too. of course neither italians or bolivians are at fault of argentina's decline, it's your retarded leaders that know nothing about economy
You are just a nagger who thinks he knows me. But I can tell you are very clearly seething at something, can't tell what. But You are right that the country is being ruled by clowns. That's just the Latam experience though.
Import substitution is a shit economic strategy btw and this region would've done a lot better if it tried to actually expand itself industrially instead of protecting it's shit product from Japanese junk.
No, we are mestizo
But unlike you mutt i do have real german nazi blood in my veins
Argentina is whatever I want it to be.
Such is the fate of a country with no real identity.
(You)
It's the truth.
The only latin american country that knows what the fuck it is is bolivia and that's only barely.
The rest got engulfed in the horror way too hard for anything coherent to survive.
Blanket answer is to say "We are mixed"
which is correct but doesn't actually answer anything because being a mutti s not really an identity.
Thank god almost everyone here is too poor to care.
>what the fuck it is is bolivia
That´s propaganda, there´s a lot of people in bolivia who claim to be white
ITT
that's what the average argentine is like when they don't just say they're whatever their surname is
every argie i know is a gigamutt, one has ashkenazi, dutch and paraguayan blood, another has italian, spanish and uruguayan blood, and those two are WHITE
holy shit that contrast between borwnentinians and real europeans in that graph
just HOLY. SHIT
The important thing is that Argentians look the part.