78 thoughts on “Are young women really all into feminine straight men? It's a common narrative, is it true?

  1. Anonymous says:

    yes.
    i want my moid to have silky wavy long hair, preferably blond or red, cute boyish face, deep brown eyes, lanky physique and it would be nice if he was at least 180cm tall.
    t. a woman

  2. Anonymous says:

    Partly, but feminine doesn’t mean gayry. It’s a fine line you are walking.
    Keep some ideal of masculinity as your north.

    • Anonymous says:

      How exactly would you walk that fine line then? Like what’s desirable femininity and what’s gay femininity I guess?

          • Anonymous says:

            It’s because women today are more dominant with the "dommy mommy" trend and they usually target men like this specifically. /fashion/ stupids see women going for them so they think they’re "feminine" because to them femininity = submissive, when that is just simply not the case. Go to any college campus (or have college friends) and you’ll see this trend is on the rise.
            I’m masculine but outwardly show my academic interests and love for the world, and every woman I’ve ever dated has approached me and has been more or less dominant. Many younger women are beginning to not be attracted to "traditional masculinity" (whatever that means).
            Keep seething chuds or submit to your dommy mommy

          • Anonymous says:

            You can look like

            https://i.imgur.com/3XhHUeD.jpg

            When women say they like effeminate boys they mean bishies, not femboys.

            and anything that you might consider "feminine" and be masculine.
            Masculinity isn’t about your looks, interests, or your sexual preferences like

            It’s because women today are more dominant with the "dommy mommy" trend and they usually target men like this specifically. /fashion/ stupids see women going for them so they think they’re "feminine" because to them femininity = submissive, when that is just simply not the case. Go to any college campus (or have college friends) and you’ll see this trend is on the rise.
            I’m masculine but outwardly show my academic interests and love for the world, and every woman I’ve ever dated has approached me and has been more or less dominant. Many younger women are beginning to not be attracted to "traditional masculinity" (whatever that means).
            Keep seething chuds or submit to your dommy mommy

            . Those are all socially conditioned. Being masculine is about feeling the need to protect and provide for those close to you, and being able to man up and handle difficult situations like economic hardship or death. Of course, women can do these things too, but these are things that are culturally universal and probably biological in men.
            On the flip side, it’s the same thing with femininity. Many traits prescribed to be "feminine" are socially constructed. Women have much of the same duties as I said men have above, such as providing, but I think they present outwardly in slightly different ways.

            Humans do not have much sexual dimorphism. The reason why have seen femininity as lesser or subordinate in the two dominant world cultures (Sinosphere and the west) is because those cultures have had rigid ideologies for the past millennia that have had a focus on warfare. Now, things are changing, women have gained more rights, and we are entering a new age of humanity that is egalitarian and just. This is evolution, and we should embrace it by not holding on to these though-patterns of the past, no matter how ingrained they are.

            Be who you want to be anon, and you’ll still be masculine, or feminine if you are a woman. Be strong (not even physically), cultured, and respectful and women will like you. Have a genuine fascination and love for reality itself and you’ll be a better man than most people on here.

      • Anonymous says:

        Other than your appearance you need to embody masculine ideals and always have them in mind.
        Since you picked an anime picture I am going to give you an example related to that. Look at how bishounen act in shoujo, they may look effefinate, but at the end of the day they are dominant, protective, smart, etc.
        When women say they like effeminate men, they don’t mean something like Astolpho or whoever your OP pic is. They mean prettyboys, with smooth skin, red lips, nice eyelashes, well groomed, etc. but STILL men.

          • Anonymous says:

            Well obviously believing in virtue helps me be more virtuous, but I meant in terms of attractiveness

          • Anonymous says:

            Women, outside some outliers, don’t find the submissive and breedable femboy shit attractive. They want a well groomed, somewhat feminine looking guy.
            If you look feminine you will have to compensate by embodying traditional masculine traits. If you look femininely and act the part then women won’t be attracted to you.
            Characters like your OP were not designed for women, they are designed for men. And the way they move act and dress are so they can be swxually appealing to men. I.E they are receptors of sexual energy.
            You want to be a giver of sexual energy.
            t. used to be an androgynous teenager

        • Anonymous says:

          It’s not that complicated at all.

          The problem with femboys that crossdress is that they come from an internet subculture that glories being dirty, emotionally stunted, and sexually deviant. They wear unironed fast fashion pleated skirts dug out of the bottom of the hamper covered in cum crusts and mismatch them with 5 dollar anime t shirts

          Normal guys can look or act more feminine, but do not participate in this degeneracy and as a result women are attracted to them.

          • Anonymous says:

            Obviously that stereotype exists but I don’t think these categories are as clear cut as you think lol

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes but femboys don’t always crossdress either. Slim physiques, long layered hair, androgynous facial features, androgynous clothes are all pretty feminine.

          • Anonymous says:

            What do you think the difference between a bishie and a femboy is then?
            I think this is important

            Women, outside some outliers, don’t find the submissive and breedable femboy shit attractive. They want a well groomed, somewhat feminine looking guy.
            If you look feminine you will have to compensate by embodying traditional masculine traits. If you look femininely and act the part then women won’t be attracted to you.
            Characters like your OP were not designed for women, they are designed for men. And the way they move act and dress are so they can be swxually appealing to men. I.E they are receptors of sexual energy.
            You want to be a giver of sexual energy.
            t. used to be an androgynous teenager

            .
            I get the feeling bishies are female fantasies, and thus they are clearly givers, while femboys are the same but for men, so they are receivers.
            It may not look like a huge difference but it’s very important if what you want is to heck women and not get hecked by men.

          • Anonymous says:

            I don’t think there’s necessarily a difference tbh, I think femboy is shifted towards the feminine side but there’s a large window of overlap between both archetypes.
            >thus they are clearly givers, while femboys are the same but for men, so they are receivers
            That’s fair even if the aesthetic difference isn’t really there.
            >it’s very important if what you want is to heck women and not get hecked by men.
            Do I have to pick either side though? Can’t I just be neutral or be both? That’s what I want. I want romance more than sex anyways

          • Anonymous says:

            see

            The ideal man looks like an early stage homeless woman, hecks like a tiger, and is a master of some tangible trade or art. Gay men do not look like this; fembois do not act like this.

          • Anonymous says:

            Well, there’s overlap, what makes them different is the important part.
            Sexuality is not merely material or hedonistic, it has a metaphysical component to it. It will permeate how you act, how you move, how you think. You don’t want to be too asexuated, it destroys your capacity to create, because your sexual energy, metaphysically, holds your generative powers. And the difference between a woman and a man is one is a receptacle for the other who is the pourer. Women will feel naturally attracted to someone who can fill them, who can pour their vitality into their cup.
            This isn’t necessarily /fashion/ but the way you act is part of a certain aesthetic, and considering the OP is asking specifically about attracting girls, this is important.

          • Anonymous says:

            So you’re saying that a woman would be attracted to a femboy on the outside who’s more masculine and confident on the inside?

  3. Anonymous says:

    Feminine gets thrown around so much it hardly has any meaning, it just means youthful.
    Young women want cute bishie kpop boys without the slightest hint of sexual dimorphism, but they only want them to look the part.
    A feminine straight guy who also acts feminine is basically a woman with extra steps and no straight woman wants to deal with that.

  4. Anonymous says:

    yes but to a certain extent. pretty boys are in now now gays. a straight guy with nice hair, narrow sharp jawline, groomed eyebrows and low bodyfat. like timothy chalamet

  5. Anonymous says:

    The ideal man looks like an early stage homeless woman, hecks like a tiger, and is a master of some tangible trade or art. Gay men do not look like this; fembois do not act like this.

  6. Anonymous says:

    I do well with blonde brunette stacy types after prettyboy maxxing. I thought it would attract egirls but apparently not. Stacys are better than e girls

  7. Anonymous says:

    I’ve never had much luck with traditional-looking women, but for whatever reason e-girls, goths, arthoes, whatever you want to call them find me attractive. They all seem to have daddy issues though, so that gets tiring after a while
    >t. androgynous-looking guy

      • Anonymous says:

        I’m 6’1" and 160 lbs, so I’m not emaciated but I’m not exactly bulky either. My face is very average but I have pretty nice hair, it’s not very long but I get it layered so it looks a little more feminine than the average mens haircut. I have pale skin and am clean-shaven, I have long eyelashes. I don’t dress particularly feminine but I get mistaken for a girl a lot in public so I guess I come across that way sometimes. A bunch of girlfriends have wanted to do my makeup (I let them, they tell me I’m cute and then we have awesome sex).

          • Anonymous says:

            This is a pic I took right after a haircut, I just asked the lady at the salon to give it a ton of layers

          • Anonymous says:

            Looks like a homeless person after another homeless person took a dump in your hair, then you rolled around in it because you were overdosed on fentanyl, topkek

          • Anonymous says:

            I’ve had multiple women tell me that the only reason they took notice of me at first was because of my hair, so evidently certain types of women like it

          • Anonymous says:

            What kind of women? Seems like pretty standard wavy long hair, nice. I think I’ll go for something longer but I’ll see. You just ask your stylist to give you layers?

          • Anonymous says:

            >What kind of women?
            Mentally ill egirls and arthoes who are fun in the short-term but unsuitable for long-term relationships
            >You just ask your stylist to give you layers?
            Yep. I ask for as many as possible. A good stylist should be able to do it easily

          • Anonymous says:

            >Mentally ill egirls and arthoes who are fun in the short-term but unsuitable for long-term relationships
            Ahh maybe it’s not a good idea then

  8. Anonymous says:

    Not over 22 and not the average women. Also, you better have a strong jawline and other masculine features but soft skin and "pretty eyes", that’s what they mean by effeminate, not b***h wrist small jaw actual effeminate men.

  9. Anonymous says:

    you get more attention doing basic shit like black nail polish but they’re not really that into it beyond the novelty

  10. Sieg says:

    Yeah but they grow out of it

    Most women want lanky dudes 6 foot plus once they turn like 24

    Then once they’re 35. A certified nursing assistant with a leased Altima they’ll take anyone who will pay their bills and is too obtuse to realize that he’s getting cheated on

  11. Anonymous says:

    Bisexual woman here tbh
    I’m into younger looking men with more feminine and alternative styles. Goth boys, boys in skirts, boys not afraid to wear pink. HOWEVER, I am also into older men who have the stern, businesslike look. No baldies, no facial hair. Sharp face, stylish older men with or without glasses are hot. I find even 60+ year old men with this aesthetic attractive.
    Cant quite explain this discrepancy.

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