are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?

are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
I've never seen anything from a woman that shows she can even mildly begin to conceive male suffering. To me it's not that they just don't care. It's that they literally are unable to conceptualise the kinds of problems that males have. As they are such alien experiences to them. Whenever I've seen female therapists or women have asked me to "open up" it's like I'm talking right through them. Nothing registers

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It does not matter whether they can understand it. They will never care either way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      First post best post as always, originally

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It is like you trying to understand female problems

    > moderately attractive chadlets insist on hitting on me all the time and I am already totally busy fending off actual chads
    > oh no

    4dggga

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can understand that that isn't a problem

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol retard

      https://i.imgur.com/WQZ0Znx.jpg

      are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
      I've never seen anything from a woman that shows she can even mildly begin to conceive male suffering. To me it's not that they just don't care. It's that they literally are unable to conceptualise the kinds of problems that males have. As they are such alien experiences to them. Whenever I've seen female therapists or women have asked me to "open up" it's like I'm talking right through them. Nothing registers

      Weird, I'm a male and my female therapist is great

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i'm going to be honest.
    i'm 20, female.
    never really wanted a relationship nor do i care for sex, i'm a virgin and i'm fine with my close friends.
    i don't talk to people or go outside often and as a result i'm very socially awkward.
    despite all of this i am content.
    that's why it's difficult for me personally to empathize with those that struggle with loneliness or lack of sexual intimacy whether they be male or female.
    if i'm honest i view those types as weak willed first worlders but i don't say that out loud because at the end of the day most humans need a fair amount of social contact to be happy, they can't control their needs.
    but at the same time i can't help but think these guys would be a lot less whiny if they just got a hobby.
    gardening, video games, drawing, writing researching.
    rekindle or even kindle a new interest, there are tons of things out there to keep you occupied.
    i truly believe that society's obsession with sex and relationship mostly came from expectations and not biological needs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >endless wall of text
      yep, this anon is female that's for sure

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        get off the internet for a while and fix your neurotransmitters.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was just a joke, simp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >everyone else should stop caring about breeding, I am not just an outlier
      I mean this not as an insult: you are literally just different.
      most people have a powerful sex drive, that is how living things procreate. it is very much a biological need

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't talk to people or go outside often
      No one asked you. Go hide in your corner again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maybe if you injected testosterone into your bloodstream you would understand true lust

    • 1 month ago
      TheFailedCouncil

      You know the rules whore. Tits or gtfo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hobbies help immensely.
      Many should take up drawing porn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have friends as a woman. You have a social life. Of course you don't understand true loneliness
      Your friends fulfil your emotional needs, so you don't need an intimate, romantic relationship with the opposite sex. But what you don't understand is the male experience. Men cannot show affection to one another, nor do we want to. Only a woman can fill the void in a mans soul. So, if he cannot get a woman, then there is no emotional or physical intimacy. No one he can talk to about things. No one to support him, or to give a shit. And if he is a virgin, then he will simply never experience that outside of childhood. He is on his own and no one gives a shit about him. It is him against the world. To a man, a relationship with a woman is special, because they are the only being that they can share affection with or have physical and emotional intimacy with

      Men's friendships with eachother do not fulfil this like it does with women's friendships with each other

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You have friends as a woman. You have a social life
        i talk to those friends around once or twice a week in short shallow bursts over the internet also could you not make friends yourself?
        >Men cannot show affection to one another, nor do we want to. Only a woman can fill the void in a mans soul.
        you want affection but deny an available source all around you? i understand men are... reserved? but you could always be the change you wanna see in the world. just a small "how are you doing." or "have a good day."
        >So, if he cannot get a woman, then there is no emotional or physical intimacy.
        if you want emotional intimacy why not make friends?
        >And if he is a virgin, then he will simply never experience that outside of childhood.
        do a significant amount of people actually care about men being virgins? don't understand why they would.
        >Men's friendships with eachother do not fulfil this like it does with women's friendships with each other
        most of my friends are men from what i've seen they can be pretty understanding people not just to me but eachother as well but anecdotal evidence means nothing
        call me a dumb whore all you want but my take away from this post is that you have shitty friends and are too afraid to get out of your comfort zone and tend to your needs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You sound incapable of introspection

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >i talk to those friends around once or twice a week in short shallow bursts over the internet
          So they are not actually close friends but internet friends?
          >you want affection but deny an available source all around you?
          >but you could always be the change you wanna see in the world
          No. You do not understand men. This is not an option. Men do not desire that kind of relationship with eachother, or even capable of it
          >if you want emotional intimacy why not make friends?
          BECAUSE... what I just saiddddd.... its the entire point I was making. Men cannot express that side of themselves. Not with other men, or women, only with one SPECIAL woman that is their partner. And it's not just that they don't want to, it is that others do not want them to. People often say men should be more open but when they do open up they are repulsed because men are supposed to be made of steel
          >do a significant amount of people actually care about men being virgins? don't understand why they would
          This is unrelated but I will answer your question. No. No they don't. Unless it is to mock them. Other than that they do not care. And the fact that so many men today are this way and no one sees this as a problem or a concern is disappointing, but thats what it is

          >my take away from this post is that you have shitty friends and are too afraid to get out of your comfort zone and tend to your needs
          I have 0 friends. And yes it is because I do not get out. But not because I am afraid. I have the tism and it gave me bad sensory problems so it ruined my life, and now I am a no life. I wasn't talking about my own situation so much when making these points because my own is more complicated. But more of a general explanation of the male world for you to understand better

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >So they are not actually close friends but internet friends?
            i've known them since the 3rd grade
            >No. You do not understand men. This is not an option. Men do not desire that kind of relationship with eachother, or even capable of it BECAUSE... what I just saiddddd.... its the entire point I was making. Men cannot express that side of themselves. Not with other men, or women, only with one SPECIAL woman that is their partner.
            i'm not a man but this just sounds blatantly untrue and reeks of a defeatist mentality.
            >People often say men should be more open but when they do open up they are repulsed because men are supposed to be made of steel
            if you're talking about women being repulsed then i fail to understand why you'd care about the opinions of someone like that.
            i just find it stupid how somw men will complain about being lonely but won't utilize their most readily available source of support. it's not like you're some cold unfeeling robot you need emotional intimacy as well so why give a fuck what other people say about your masculinity when it comes to that? it doesn't even have to be anything deep when it comes to giving and taking support, a little can go a long way.
            anywho i'm tired goodnight

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >but won't utilize their most readily available source of support
              Because what your little woman mind cannot seem to grasp is that it is not a "readily available source of support", or even a source at all. Men don't fucking do that with other men. It doesn't happen. It is frowned upon. It makes everything awkward. Men do not want to hear it from other men and they do not want to share it with other men

              You don't believe me because you cannot conceive off it because you are a woman. A perfect example of the thread topic. You really have no idea at all

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                let me get this straight.
                >have a problem pertaining to men and their relationships with eachother
                >make that problem worse with your actions and ideas
                >complain and complain about said problem
                >somehow spin it so that women are the bad ones in the situation
                this is real brilliant stuff. cya.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Men don't have emotional support from either sex and the reasons are ingrained over countless generations which you can't just suddenly change. You're a really dumb cunt.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I thought you were going to get it straight? Every single line is flat out wrong. Try again, have another go, but try not to strain yourself

    • 1 month ago
      The original Amyfag

      Hobbies definitely help, but they do not get rid of the desire for relationships and sex, but they do blunt it for sure. However, it is one of those things where you have to keep yourself busy at almost every waking moment to keep it at bay, otherwise, loneliness and (to a lesser extent) horniness will swell back. A good comparison might be to hunger.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have friends as a woman. You have a social life. Of course you don't understand true loneliness
      Your friends fulfil your emotional needs, so you don't need an intimate, romantic relationship with the opposite sex. But what you don't understand is the male experience. Men cannot show affection to one another, nor do we want to. Only a woman can fill the void in a mans soul. So, if he cannot get a woman, then there is no emotional or physical intimacy. No one he can talk to about things. No one to support him, or to give a shit. And if he is a virgin, then he will simply never experience that outside of childhood. He is on his own and no one gives a shit about him. It is him against the world. To a man, a relationship with a woman is special, because they are the only being that they can share affection with or have physical and emotional intimacy with

      Men's friendships with eachother do not fulfil this like it does with women's friendships with each other

      >just get a hobby
      I have several, and they are always a good thing. They do help as a distraction, I even do a couple you mentioned. But this does not and will never replace having someone in your life. It is not going to get rid of the aching loneliness that arises from time to time. That need is still there. I am mostly fine, or so I think when I am in the moment. I don't whine or complain, and I don't think about my problems all day every day, but really when I think about it, I'm miserable. It is all there in my subconscious. My lack of self worth, my need for human contact and to relate to someone, or to be with someone, to feel human, the self hatred, the loneliness. I have just been miserable for so long I have forgotten I am miserable, because its all I have known for a long, long time. Gardening is somewhat fulfilling, and it helps to an extent, but digging potatoes and planting flowers isn't going to replace human touch, or make me feel less sub human, or fix anything really

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You talk too much skank .

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      women get a lot of attention so they wish they could be left alone, for us its the opposite, we spend our lives being invisible and have to work hard to have people want us around. you can feel annoyed at all the attention and want to escape.

      https://i.imgur.com/WQZ0Znx.jpg

      are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
      I've never seen anything from a woman that shows she can even mildly begin to conceive male suffering. To me it's not that they just don't care. It's that they literally are unable to conceptualise the kinds of problems that males have. As they are such alien experiences to them. Whenever I've seen female therapists or women have asked me to "open up" it's like I'm talking right through them. Nothing registers

      mothers who have only boys have been the most sympathetic to me. they see their boys struggle in this world today and see their pain. most women can ignore or block men bothering them and it just annoys them. but mothers have to be there and see their sons pain.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well there you go OP. You are right, not only they don't care they just see you as needy for wanting to fulfill your basic human desires.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i truly believe that society's obsession with sex and relationship mostly came from expectations and not biological needs.
      because you are dumb anon. shockingly, people have hobbies. hobbies do not fulfil your life. you fundamentally are incapable of understanding men because we're entirely different to you, we are not all just the exact same humans with a different outerskin, we're different underneath and in our structure and mentality, biology and needs, drives and 50 other things i'm sure.
      i have hobbies, i enjoy them, they do not make me want to keep living or give me a sufficient reason to work a shitty job 24/7 or participate in a broken society just so i can engage in a passtime anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i truly believe that society's obsession with sex and relationship mostly came from expectations and not biological needs.

      This. Aboslutely this!!!

      Ive come to that conlusion myself as I too come from having a similar kind of social circle and just focusing on video games to destress.

      The issue is when my peers and some family push the expectation that as a man, I should be achieving MORE and if Im not, then for some reason Im a loser.

      Thats always been the problem. Women really arent expected much because even at the bare minimum of spreading their legs open, you can create something potentially good. For us we are just considered leeches if we dont do much with our time and are shunned for it.

      At least you are vaguely aware of it. I wish more women were like you. Bless.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My mom is the most understanding and lenient person I know considering Im 28 and still living at home with no job. Somehow in conversation, we were talking about ftm trannies and I brought up how hard it is to be a man. She disagreed, citing period pain but I think she was trying to understand. I still dont think she gets it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I'm talking about. I've had the same experiences with my mother. On the surface she is very caring and loving but as soon as I actually extrapolate of the intricacies of my suffering she simply doesn't want to hear it. Her worldview is incompatible with my suffering. For example I said that the world is cold and harsh towards people like me and she simply refuted "I don't believe the world is cold and harsh"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Almost every single fucking time I told a girl it was harder to be a man while I was in high school, the girl would bring up pregnancy and periods. It's absolutely hilarious that those two things are the worst pains that most females experience over their lifetime, yet they act like their life is anywhere near as hard as ours.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
    they are incapable of understanding any male concept be it honor or suffering. trying to make them understand by asking them to put themselves in your position will make you hate women even more

    >friend gets a call from gf and essentially asks him to ditch me so she can have company
    >he says no and she gets mad
    >then tells her that she would feel like shit if he ditched her for someone else
    >she didnt even sound like she understood and it sounded more like she was pouting and on the verge of throwing a tantrum

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women do not care about circumcision despite pretending to. They will either ignore it or actively support it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This disturbs me so much about American women. I can't imagine having that kind of lack of empathy. It must be fun.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i'm going to be honest.
    >i'm 20, female.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say that 90% of women in general cannot at all relate to male suffering and the remaining 10% don't care to and never will. Men are essentially the disposable servitor gender of the species and it doesn't make sense for the beneficiary to develop empathy beyond a certain point for disposables. Just enough to curb the worst of it and fool the majority.

    For a women, understanding male suffering is like holding a burning iron rod. It can be done for a time, but it just cannot be held onto. It's the same the other way around to an extent in that men generally cannot relate at all to female suffering. They are the weaker gender and even a below average male could totally overpower them for most of the population. They constantly have the equivalent of nest thieves who could quite easily be looking to lay their eggs then abandon the nest who is using hijacked mating signals. These worries are totally absurd to me, but that may just highlight the point. Diplomacy between the sexes has broken down into dust and we're in a cold war scenario.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women are getting treated more like men every day because that's what they insist on acting like. This isn't new. Neither is men being disposable but that's the perfect reason to leave women to suffer instead of sacrificing for nothing anymore. Technology has already replaced them to a large extent. The men who still want women desperately don't realize they want a fantasy they can easily get better elsewhere.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe you are just getting treated like a woman, maybe women are not getting treated like men.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't get away with everything actually. But women are getting treated more harshly all the time and they and their simps aren't coping well with it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You aren't listening to me at all. This place is dead. Most of these dumbass threads cannot have been posted by a mature person male or female in fact. I guess you can't grow up and get your life together and unironically post on this board after all. You're here forever my ass. And like that I'm splitting. I said some things here and got nothing substantial back not even a joke. Bye from a long time anon.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You didn't really say anything that made much sense so be lucky you got what you did. See you tomorrow.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I know what you are, you don't make friends. You don't listen to people. Best of luck to you. No I am not lucky that you replied to me. It sucks.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know me at all you're just mad you didn't get your specific response.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And what response was that. I don't know what it would be. Perhaps a crowd of anons cheering me on. I hate you. Go kill yourself. Jump off a building or bridge, or hang yourself, make sure to use the nylon ropes that make it painful on your neck after you kick the stool down.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >boohoo gimme a joke
                Get over it homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's alright, I already found the joke.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?

    If a woman sees a man who got shot in the knee, he's crying out in pain, I think the woman must have some kind of understanding of the mans pain. Anyone would understand that a man shot in the knee is in pain. Does a woman know how it is to be a man? No, she's never jerked off her penis five times in one day going through puberty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women understand physical pain just fine, they experience it in their lives. Everyone understands physical pain.
      Women can understand some emotional pain. Breakups, death of a loved one, disappointment, failure. Women can experience all of these things, and understand them. There is one thing, however, that women cannot understand. Total rejection. The feeling of being utterly unwanted by anyone. Women cannot understand this because they cannot experience it. Women, simply by virtue of being women, are always desired by someone. Even the lowest quality woman is desired by some man, somewhere. And they know it. Even if they reject every man who desires them, they still know that they are wanted. They cannot comprehend being universally unwanted, totally rejected, genuinely unable to find anyone, anywhere.
      The concept is alien to them. They will never understand it, and so they will never understand that pain that is unique to a certain class of men.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
    no, they arent. you'd think ugly ones would, especially ugly black women. but they hate men more than normal women do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Black women are generally some of the most disgusting women inside and out. It makes complete sense why so many of their men aren't just race mixing but down low fags.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One thing that women dont really know about, and that really changes the perspective on msle is the fact that men have no camraderie with each other. So, without a cunt in their life they have no connection to anybody and are truly desolate.

    I completely different issue is that inter gender bickering and competition is always this genders own fault. Men think women women women what can we do about women, when the problem of men being so reliant on women for self worth needs a resolution at its core, needs attention and discussion, and its only in the past year that I started to notice men themselves talking about it. Its a progress, but where have it been before? You neglect yourselves and then wonder, why is one so abandoned.
    Have nobody here noticed that despite all claim thst women are evil etc on this board the majority of op mockery actually comes from other men? Like you guys here constantly berate and hate on each other. You dont really understand each other either.
    Have you ever reflected on the idea that when men hear "treat as equal" it translates to them to treat like shit (to compete with them)?
    Tldr Stop being so freaking mean to each other and you wont have to wait in suffering for that one saviour woman.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women are extremely fake and vicious whores to each other. Women will admit to not wanting daughters just to avoid the period fueled drama. Men fighting simps and other stupid men is necessary for quality of life to either stay balanced or improve.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Men kill eachother in groups of thousands, women call eachother names in groups of several. We care more about world peace among men than world peace among women for a reason. You are truly a weak person to be so offended by a women's drama.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Women have outright killed tens of millions of kids for convenience sake. At least men mostly kill other men. Never mind the amount of deaths women are responsible for thanks to poorly raising boys as single moms surrounded by constant new shady fuck buddies they insists are step dads. Women being the nicer sex is a meme.

          It's alright, I already found the joke.

          Cope

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure there are many men and women physicians performing abortions, and many men convincing the women they fucked to not keep the baby. You can't force a woman to get an abortion though, I think men should have the right to force an abortion, since we half to pay half the child support. It's our money after all.

            The best cope of all is not caring about what the hell you just said. There are billions of people just like me, who don't know or care about what you said with your online comment. Online comments are the opium to the intellectuals. See that was flattery towards you, I said you were an intellectual.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >B-but fetuses
            Consider the following : if you were aborted you would have never suffered the shitty life you do.
            Men have indirectly killed millions of babies too by abandoning women they knocked up then. If we take indirect responsibility into consideration. Women choosing single motherhood is a very new thing, but single mothers have been there for centuries. Except that their lives uhm well, almost guaranteed the death of a child since she would have no means of feeding it due to being a pariah. So yeah, you also kill babies.
            Oh and you also rape them. This is something women don't do.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              But wymyn don't need men and can raise children on their own. The idea that all women are not a Mary Sue architype and have to rely on men at all is just sexist misogynist drivel

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It is kind of ironic they would insist the same men they would refuse to listen to are somehow responsible for their lives going to shit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If fetuses don't count then neither do newborns for the same reasons. Women recklessly having sex knowing the risks and ignoring them or calling people sexist or controlling for bringing them up is why there was an explosion in single motherhood and bastard kids. Women are the gatekeepers who are supposed to be the most caring of children but they easily traded their children's lives and futures for a pump and dump. Unless you're saying the women are not fully human and so couldn't be responsible for doing all that. Women fuck countless underage boys in the schools they're given the responsibility to teach them in no less. Women are not only not nicer than men but you could easily argue they're more fucked up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Having sex TAKES TWO, anon. You personally may not have sex, but all who did have it are equally responsible for the kid. Yet men are completely absolved of tge REAL responsibility that comes with having it : that if you abandon it, it will die. He can just opt out at any moment with no reprecussions, avoiding alimony is easy as fuck and 90% do it. A woman does not have this luxury. Every decision considering the child is always life or death decision for a mother. Nobody in the fucking world is really prepared for this weight, but some realise it earlier and make an abort, while other realise it only when hormone pumping start to fall and end up raising shitheads like you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Having sex TAKES TWO, anon
                Having sex takes the woman consenting, it doesn't matter how much guys want it if the girls don't. Which is why many more men are sexless than women. Men can be taken for child support/alimony and society will shame them for being deadbeats but women can literally kill their kids to dodge responsibility and that's a right the same as breathing. So much for the takes two bullshit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yet women can find all the emotional support they need from other women, while men can't. A small reality check.
        You are coping.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Yet women can find all the emotional support they need from other women
          Yeah that's why they're less happy than ever, all that emotion support somehow changes how they've ruined and wasted their lives.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They are not less happier than ever, thats pure bullshit. Female health metrics only increase when she is single. The housewife ideal is fake, women always suffered from psychiatric problems more thean men, and 50's housewives were avid drug abusers.
            Women are happy when they have community, not men. Petty drama is a part of that happiness because it gives them something to think about during the day, but is largely inconsequential.

            The reasons why people are in general not very hsppy nowadays are eider economic and alienation issues. Our current social structure is meant for ants, not humans.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >They are not less happier than ever, thats pure bullshit.
              Not really when they're drinking more alcohol than ever to cope with being debt ridden, incapable of keeping a relationship and comparing themselves to celebrities on social media every day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Women always drank alcohol, drinking alcohol have always been a norm for normalhomosexuals and low class cattle. Claim that they at some didn't, is utterly retarded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >
                >disgusting degenerates
                Women are the ones getting pumped and dumped inside and out of porn.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Women measurably drink much more alcohol now than before

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is why do men try to understand female suffering? You're suppose to be teaming up with men to create a healthy and productive society. Have you heard of the 5 pillars of manhood? One of them is brotherhood.

    I can't imagine the pain good men go through when bad men are hurting their fellow man. It's a betrayal I can't possibly understand because I'm not a man. But that shit has nothing to do with me; it's not a life ill ever live.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      men only see other men as competition and hate each other,

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Competition is part of life and men still cooperate to get most things of worth done despite that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not every man sees all men like that. The men that build, teach and heal with other men don't see manhood like that. If what you say is true the world would be a way different place. Men go to war together, men raise their sons. Men build legacies to leave the men that will come after them. Men travel to far unknowns with each other. I have a high standard for men and I know other men have high standards for men too. Yes the world has a lot of distractions and pain that lead men to hate and degen behavior and loneliness but there are men that won't stand for it and will support and raise up their brothers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's just a job, we take jobs because we need to work and make money. Maybe when we get more experience we take on more of the planning...

          You don't get an aerospace engineering degree and plan a project to the moon. It is a culmination of a lifetime of effort from thousands of people.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well what about the men that get the degree because they want to go to the moon? You say it's just a job but what about the men that get that job to have a higher standard of living, more respect, to afford a better life for themselves or their families? Men should expect more of themselves and from other men just like Tate dudes tell men to expect more of women

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women backstabbing and competing with each other is normal too. You're just dumb.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well there are women that have higher standards for other women too. Also don't compare your male struggles to females; that's part of the problem. Men need to identify less with women.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just saying you're retarded for pretending it's just men who fight and betray or it's some unbelievable thing.

          very wrong, women speak in great detail and depth with many of their friends many hours every day.
          compared to guys who never talk much even with dozens of close male friends.

          Guys don't need to talk much but there are friends they talk for hours with. They don't need a bunch of Facebook tier friends talking about boring shit for it to count.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Women betray other women FACT
            Men betray other men FACT
            Both sexes should expect more from their own sex FACT

            Sorry if it came off like I was saying that

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        very wrong, women speak in great detail and depth with many of their friends many hours every day.
        compared to guys who never talk much even with dozens of close male friends.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >One of them is brotherhood.
      Which doesn't exist in our society anymore anon. We are not communities, we are not allies, we have been forced into constant competition, where success comes from putting others down or taking from them. And on top of that, we've imported a dozen other cultures from all around the world who are even more disposed to be our enemies and take from us rather than be brothers and look out for one another.
      Modern society has created this situation and does its best to actively not enforce any kind of cooperation and encourages competition and conflict.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I agree and yet there are men out there that through their actions don't want it to be that way. Those are the men that come together and heal from the suffering OP is talking about which I agree is very real for men

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
    unironically yes for the vast majority. honestly the vast majority of normies regardless of women or not are incapable of understanding or even imagining. but women in particular - sure there are a handful of exceptions i'm sure but generally it's not the case - are incapable of understanding most things. they really lack a lot of empathy and imagination or even any desire to try to understand

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >hurr durr why doesnt tinder stacie have casual sex with me like in porn
    yeah idgaf about male so called problems. disgusting degenerates.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's in their best interest to downplay it

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are women fundamentally incapable of understanding male suffering?
    >I've never seen anything from a woman that shows she can even mildly begin to conceive male suffering. To me it's not that they just don't care. It's that they literally are unable to conceptualise the kinds of problems that males have. As they are such alien experiences to them. Whenever I've seen female therapists or women have asked me to "open up" it's like I'm talking right through them. Nothing registers
    why would a woman care about a lonely loser?
    im not even attacking you
    i was a lonely loser myself and you just need to understand that women dont give a shit
    thats why

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to rest next to a woman, holding her, head on her shoulder, or hers on mine.
    And then everything will be okay for a while.

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