Are there men who crossdress in public full time but don't identify as women or trans, just male crossdressers?
Are there men who crossdress in public full time but don't identify as women or trans, just male crossdressers?
Are there men who crossdress in public full time but don't identify as women or trans, just male crossdressers?
there used to be in the 90s and a bit in the early 2000s, then the whole "trap" thing started among the younger generation (younger at the time), then they all trooned, now zoomers skip the denial stage and troon.
stick to gay top drag queens (since you're probably looking for an AMAB in a dress to top you) or create a time machine and go back to the late 80s
Are there men who crossdress full-time who are NOT in denial of being trans, they just like to crossdress?
>Are there men who crossdress full-time who are NOT in denial of being trans
no OP, are you like 30 or something?
crossdressing and wanting to look like a woman is a tranny thing, straight men don't wanna be women or even be seen as women for a short amount of time, because being seen as feminine is considered a shitty thing for straight men - and you're asking if there are people doing it FULL-TIME?
>inb4 drag exists
drag is very different from crossdressing and straight men don't do drag
>inb4 what about those 2 straight drag queens on that show
you mean the ones that came out as trans later?
why cant you just enjoy crossdressing without needing to be a woman?
That’s the point. Straight men just don’t do it. Humans tend to follow certain patterns. It’s like why don’t straight men get acrylic nails like girls do? There’s billions of men, you can find a few million who do this? It’s just not even something that crosses straight men’s minds
Maybe they do and it just isn't talked about.
women do it to attract man. that is all. yes even the lesbians.
why cant men just enjoy wearing female clothing for themselves without needing to be seen as a woman?
thats like asking why cant someone enjoy wearing firemans uniforms just for themselves
>why cant men just enjoy wearing female clothing for themselves
if you're this confident men like this exist, prove us wrong by doing it yourself.
you'll be one of those straight men enjoying wearing women's clothing and not caring about being seen as a woman
I don't think a man could be seen as a woman just be crossdressing anyways.
great insight, even more reasons why you should start wearring women's clothing for personal enjoyment
Are you a tranny? Cis people don’t think like we do. They see man wearing women’s clothes is obviously gay or trying to look like a woman. It’s very NPC. They don’t think outside of the box.
Women may not realize it, but clothes are meant to attract the opposite sex, subtly. Women’s clothes accentuate their hips and tighten their waist. They are flared as well to give that impression. Their jeans make their hips look larger and butt look bigger/rounder. Lower cut tops accentuate their cleavage. Men’s shirts make their shoulders look wider and taper into their waist for that V shape. Clothing designers know this but cis women seem to be oblivious to it or atleast act like it.
wtf are you talking about, women always pick clothes that make them hotter
No they pick clothes and styles that other popular women wear that look hot wearing them and get alot of attention.
youre crazy. they always try to make their asses and tits bigger
They can and have been for a very long time, don't let these fools trick you
all AMABs who "crossdress" wanna be seen more women-like appearance-wise while doing it, nobody wants to crossdress and look like an obvious man in a dress.
>enjoy crossdressing without needing to be a woman
crossdressing, as in wearing women's clothing and accessories like hair/makeup/israeliteelry and being recognized as a woman while doing that - that's partially "being a woman" already.
men don't want to be seen as women, if they do, they're not men, they're trannies
>why cant you just enjoy
why can't you just cis women? why do you wanna see men in women's clothing, not even trannies, but just men in women's clothing?
What about pooners who crossdress as women?
who cares about women?
"pooners who crosdress as women" are never on testosterone, they change their pronouns, dye their hair, and stop at that - they're not trans
>brief breast grab?
google it yourself if you're so interested in the subject
>“He came in close, put his bare feet on top of mine so I could not move, leaned his body against me, and began quick, discreet thrust back and forth against my body. I felt his penis on my hip through his thin pajamas,” Lysette says.
>ruin his whole career?
being fired from one show and continuing to act in the 6 years since does not a "ruined career" make, the guy is doing quite all right and continues to get acting gigs
Lol that's pretty fucked up
Dude's behavior gets his show cancelled and while his career continues unfettered all the smaller actors/etc who mainly had that one show are totally fucked over
maybe she was being flirtatious with him
Iirc his defense was they were a really close and friendly cast sharing housing during shooting so humping/groping someone was okay
trans women deserve to be groped by men
women exist to provide pleasure to men
you want to be a woman? you got it.
>sharing housing during shooting
it happened on set
>wasting valuable time as a young person by trying your best to upset trannies on an anonymous imageboard for trannies
great choice of a hobby, truly based and epic behavior anon, keep it up.
be sure to share your /lgbt/ lurking escapades with the homies, they'll dig that shit.
Nah some pooners who are on t do fetishistic crossdressing, hsts poons
to crossdress as like a performance or hobby every now and again is perfectly cis, like no ones saying harry styles of whoever else are trans in denial
but the ones who want to present as feminine 24/7 thats an exclusively trans thing. Ive seen so many "crossdressers" who talk about how much they love when people refer to them as ma'am or miss in public and it just pains me how far in denial these girls are about their transness.
why can't you present 24/7 in womens clothing and not be trans?
>like no ones saying harry styles of whoever else are trans in denial
have you not seen the pinkpillers on this board? they think using a pink crayon once back in gradeschool is reason enough to get a sex change. I have no doubt they'd be eager to label him as a repressor for being a queer baiter.
The entire visual kei movement disagrees with you lmao
i don't really care what the japanese did 40 years ago, i'm not japanese and their culture is largely irrelevant in the western-centric world that you and i live in
>40 years ago
This is happening TO THIS DAY you massive retard
i still don't care what the japanese are doing unless it's a new super mario game, i love those. the new one with elephant mario looks pretty cool
>retard
rude and totally uncalled for. the japanese have no idea what europoors are doing, I have no idea what the japanese are doing - it's OK, i'm pretty sure the japanese themselves are interested in keeping their culture within their island and people
>deflecting this hard
you're not going to project trannyism on straight men who don't want to be muscular or have beards
the old way was better
yeah, it was much easier for people like you to abuse trannies back in the 90s.
that's why people with your views are trying to go back to the time when staying in the closet was the only option and you could murder a tranny with no consequences whatsoever.
go to some 3rd world country, you'll like it there, you can abuse everyone as a rich american and you'll never get jailtime
no need to get pissy.
yeah i think there might be
f1nn i guess
how old are you OP?
Picrel, Eddie Izzard prior to trooning, Noel Fielding, Ed Wood, plenty of male rockstars
Yes, that's what Femboys are
when are zoomers going to realize that femboys are the same thing that traps were? in other words, trannies in denial?
is it finally gonna hit them when finnster troons? or are they gonna stay retarded?
Yeah
its weird how 20 years ago you weren't asked to believe that crossdressers were literally women and now that has totally changed
>you weren't asked to believe that crossdressers were literally women
nobody gives a shit about non-passing trannies to this day, stop this persecution complex, if you call a hon "a man in a dress" people will applaud you
I don't believe in passing trannies.
why are you on this board if you don't mind me asking? it seems like you don't like trans people very much, and there's lots of them here - are you coming here to get angry at them?
aren't there things you'd rather be doing now? like, instead of talking with trannies (people you don't like), you could be out with your friends or something
Those are called transvestites
Idk why it became a no-no word when they still exist
Did anybody else watch that TransParent show before Jeffrey tambor got outed as a sex pest? It had a pretty interesting showing of how transvestite communities decades ago began to split into TVs vs TSs with transvestites thinking the transsexuals were a bunch of freaks taking it too far once transitioning started becoming more or a thing. Wonder how much that dynamic actually existed back in the day
>Jeffrey tambor got outed as a sex pest?
story?
he groped a trans woman actress who played a minor character in the show if i recall correctly.
so just like a brief breast grab? that's it? and you wanna ruin his whole career?
dont have to watch, I lived through it and yes, that is accurate. When I used to strictly crossdress but also wanted to be a woman, the crossdressers used to think transsexuals are doing too much and that its not that serious. It was a clear distinction. Its also one of the things that let me know I was not just a crossdresser.
good for you for having the guts to figure yourself out in time to troon succesfully (i'm assuming that's what happened).
have you ever heard from the people who kept crossdressing and thought transitioners were weirdos? what happened to them over the coming years?
it isn't that serious
cringe (deserves to be gay bashed in a supermarket parking lot
based
they're called non-ops sweety
what if they aren't trans?
don't bother replying, the troons here refuse to accept that some straight men just find other aesthetics interesting
It's like they never heard of alternative fashion subcultures or something
its just kinda telling they view putting on a dress as the same thing as being a woman, if you do it outside the bedroom and its not for a drag show
why are intent on searching for straight men wearing women's clothing on an /lgbt/ board? why would straight men be here? they're probably all in those "sexy beautiful women" boards, because that's what straight men like
what are you even saying, I didn't "search" for this, I've known about this for years, I'm simply disproving the nonsense being said here
none of these are troons or trooned later on ever
narratives like these are not helping the case that being trans is a fashion rather than an actual disorder that needs medical intervention
>I didn't "search" for this
okay, OP did though, he's been posting for several days about this now and I don't understand why they're doing it here, seems like the wrong place to me, you know, since we're talking about straight men and not trans people or gay people or anything
why do you assume that male crossdressers couldn't be bi or gay?
>are there straight male crossdressers who crossdress in public full time?
>are there gay or bi male crossdressers who crossdress in public full time?
i wish you'd explain to me why you (a straight man) are so interested in this topic and why you're asking about it on this board specifically. i also wish you'd ask YOURSELF why you're doing this, but whatever floats your boat.
hope you have a good next couple of threads, i'm out.
the original question did not specify only straight crossdressers
just "men who crossdress"
you are inventing this straight-only bit
>why you're asking about it on this board specifically
nta but have you considered it's because this is the only board that could have any remotely thoughtful discussion about these subjects + they don't give a fuck? stop being such a lame ass hall monitor, why did you even reply in the first place
that's the joke.
Srlf-identified full time transvestites used to be more common in the 70s-90s, but pretty much anyone who went full time would end up on hrt soon enough so it's not really what you're talking about
I tried doing that back in 2018 but everyone kept thinking I was a trans women so I quit after about 4 months
I haven’t worn makeup or womens clothes since